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Unfinished and ongoing projects

Wiki Cleanup

Ongoing cleanup tasks can be found at HRWiki:Cleanup

DVD Commentary

Although all DVD commentaries have been transcribed, several commentaries from strongbad_email.exe Disc Six and Sbemails' 50 Greatest Hits DVD still need a second editor to verify and proofread the transcription. See HRWiki:DVD commentary transcripts for a list of commentaries that require proofreading.

The article DVD Commentary Speakers similarly needs cross-checking to verify that the individuals present on commentaries have been correctly recorded.

Also check Category:Section Stubs, which includes DVD commentary entries that need their "Fun Facts" subsection expanded.

Subtitles

Since nearly all subtitles have been done in English, it is time to improve their quality. Here are some starters.

Now is also a good time to translate them to other languages. See the project's section.

List all Homestarrunner.com files

I am starting a project to list all known files on Homestarrunner.com, starting with the SWFs, to make them easy for people to download with download managers. The list so far is at User:Nerd42/List. --NERD42  email  talk   h²g²  pedia  uncyc  01:09, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Here is my equivalent of that list, but with a much larger scope. -- ■■   PURPLE  WRENCH   ■■ 19:31, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Locations

Many locations do not have a full filmography; many still need to be added.

Physical Descriptions

Most of the articles about characters and such lack basic physical descriptions. I know that this is largely because we rely heavily on accompanying each article with appropriate images. However, on the off chance that the pictures are not viewable by a user (say, if the user has visual disability and uses a text-reading accessibility aid-type program, for example..), a short, very basic description might be appropriate.. Thoughts? -DAGRON 00:51, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

This is one of those things that seems so obvious once someone points it out and you wonder why nobody thought of it before. Yes, definitely, add physical descriptions to articles that don't have them. — It's dot com 05:08, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
All of the main characters now have descriptions. I just need to add some of the minor characters (All The King's Men, Storybook, Misc.). wbwolf (t | ed) 19:49, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
After a few days of working on this I'm pretty sure almost all of the character pages have at least some physical description now. I got all the ones listed on the Characters page that didn't have a description, with the exception of characters too minor to get their own page (should those be listed separately?) and like, animals or inanimate objects where just saying what it is gives a pretty good impression of what it looks like. I was also operating on the assumption that for pages on character variations we can assume that the reader already knows what the main character looks like, so if someone disagrees those probably need to be fleshed out. Freshasabagel 16:43, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Image Cleanup

Here are some images that should be re-uploaded with a better quality. Either with better cropping or with better colors. The list is monitored and updated mostly by OptimisticFool. — Elcool (talk)(contribs) 15:29, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Well I re-did the 404'd one, but I'm not gonna do all of them by myself! Someone help out! Rondleman! Stuff I did.Talk. 02:48, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
JPG is not better quality. --DorianGray 05:20, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
BTW Wasd98: additionally, the check mark means that image has already been improved, so there's no need to work on those images. --Stux 06:03, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Image Summaries

The image summaries of all the images on the wiki need to be checked and if necessary, changed to be descriptive and linked to the proper toon and anything else relevant. Pay attention to make sure that the correct licensing template is used as well. Also, some images lack the proper "Summary" and "Licensing" headers. I have a series of pages here For keeping track of images that have been checked. — Defender1031*Talk 11:11, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Guitar Tablature

The purpose of this project is to provide guitar tabs for amateur guitarists who wish to learn how to play songs from the Homestar Runner body of work. I brought up making guitar tabs in a HRWiki:Da Basement discussion a while ago, and I've noticed that the idea lost a lot of momentum over the year, so I'm labeling it a project. I posted a list of songs that need tabbing in a user subpage. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 03:15, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

YouTube Descriptions in Trivia

Currently, most Podstar Runner descriptions are in the Trivia section of the toon's page. For some reason, we don't do the same thing for YouTube uploads. They should be added. (A not-yet-complete list of descriptions can be found over here.) Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 22:53, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Done ampersand done. At least, I think I did them all for now. Skills of an Artist, check. SBEmails, check. All the other toons listed on the wiki's YouTube page, check. Question is, should they stay under "trivia" or do we migrate some to the YouTube Version section of respective toon pages? 99.48.86.26 00:10, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
I think that the YouTube Version section of the pages is a better place for this information. I noticed that you were halfway through adding them to the Trivia section of the pages before you said anything about it, and then you kept going in Trivia. That makes for that much more work if we decide to move them to the YouTube Version sections. The Knights Who Say Ni 00:11, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
And one more thing: If the page doesn't have a YouTube Version section, I don't think this constitutes a pressing need to create it; it can stay in Trivia in those cases regardless. The Knights Who Say Ni 00:14, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
On the third hand, if there isn't a "Trivia" section or a "YouTube Version" section, that would be a sufficient reason to create a "YouTube Version" section to add the information. The Knights Who Say Ni 18:19, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
I can agree with YouTube descriptions going into the "YouTube Version" section if one's available. I'd say "YouTube Version" sections could be made (if there isn't already one) if there's a noticeable difference between the website version and the YouTube version other than the description, but yes, just having description text doesn't mean it needs its own section.
There are some pages that have a "DVD and YouTube" section, should those be split into separate sections? DEI DAT VM┌datvm center\super contra┘ 12:30, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
This won't answer your question regarding where to place the descriptions, but I did want to say, thank you 99.48.86.26 for your hard work! --Stux 15:47, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
Update It would seem that this item is now related to this project is it not? --Stux 18:13, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People Responses

SBCG4AP has been around for ten years now, and yet most (if not all) of the pages documenting all the game dialogue are still labelled as incomplete. I'd like to know what it would take to get those pages improved so they'll be classified as no-longer-stubs before the game becomes old and outdated enough to wind up on the abandonware circuit, and you have to turn off all the RAM and hit the computer with a brick just to play it. -- 68.37.43.131 21:44, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

@StrongBadActual

The @StrongBadActual pages are missing information. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 04:29, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

I believe I've gotten a bare-bones version of all the replies from November 9, but it could use another set of eyes. DEI DAT VM┌datvm center\super contra┘ 15:37, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
Current Progress with tweet updates can be found in the talk page. --Stux 18:30, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Transcript Standardization

This is by no means a high-priority project, since hardly anyone will even notice. And since there are so many transcripts, it's unrealistic to expect to finish in the near future. But anyway, I noticed a lot of transcripts don't follow the HRWiki:Standards guidelines. Sometimes they don't add proper capitalization and punctuation in long stage directions, and sometimes they do in the short ones. Sometimes the short stage directions are put on a separate line, and sometimes the long ones are in a line of dialogue. Instead of this:

{cut to Homestar}
HOMESTAR RUNNER: Oh, hello! {He smiles.} I'm Homestar.
{Homestar spins his buzzer}
HOMESTAR RUNNER: Here's Strong Bad! {cut to Strong Bad.}

...it should be this:

{Cut to Homestar.}
HOMESTAR RUNNER: Oh, hello! {smiles} I'm Homestar. {spins his buzzer} Here's Strong Bad!
{Cut to Strong Bad.}

Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 23:17, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Nav Template Automation

See HRWiki:Projects/Nav Template Automation

Toon Descriptions

See HRWiki:Projects/Toon Descriptions

Possible Page Disambiguations

Based on this discussion, there are several pages whose names only differ by the case of the first letter. I believe these are all topics whose names coincide with Strong Bad Email titles. Some of these links should probably be disambiguated in order to avoid confusion as to which page should be linked to. This would apply only to the upper case titles since the Strong Bad Email titles should remain unchanged. Here's a table that list the known collisions:

Strong Bad Email Upper case title Proposed Upper case Solution (if any)
tape-leg Tape-leg Move "Tape-leg" to "Tape-leg (running gag)"
crying Crying Move "Crying" to "Crying (running gag)" or "Crying (activity)"
marzipan Marzipan Leave as-is?
pom pom Pom Pom Leave as-is?
making out Making Out Move "Making Out" to "Making Out (running gag)" or "Making Out (activity)"
trogday Trogday trogday redirects to Happy Trogday as a filename redirect, while Trogday redirects to Holidays#Trogday (January 13). The latter should probably be turned into a disambiguation? (See Talk:trogday for some background.) (Done DONE)
toons Toons Much ado about subtitles?
games Games Much ado about subtitles?
fhqwhgads Fhqwhgads Much ado about subtitles?
sbcg4ap SBCG4AP Much ado about subtitles?
trading cards Trading Cards Move "Trading Cards" to "Trading Cards (product)"
ghosts Ghosts Move "Ghosts" to "Ghosts (Concept)"

I don't know if there are more examples. If they are they should be added to this list. I'm not sure if this is the best solution (and if the links should be automatically moved). I welcome any useful feedback! --Stux 11:45, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

I definitely think the (running gag) suffix would help sort things out a lot. Heck, it would make the whole mess we've got with Stinkoman 20X6 Level 10 easier to solve. Guybrush20X6 21:37, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
There are a few more somewhat obtrusive filename redirects, such as toons/Toons, games/Games, fhqwhgads/Fhqwhgads, and sbcg4ap/SBCG4AP. Are these redirects still necessary, since the subtitles project isn't really a thing right now?
As for the (running gag) suffix, I feel like the examples listed (with the exception of Tape-leg) aren't really running gags. A running gag is a joke that is repeated and developed over time, but these are just... occurences. But on the other hand, they're categorized as running gags, and "Crying (occurence)" isn't quite as catchy, so I guess (running gag) is fine. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 22:02, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
So I've added the filename redirects to the list. Even though the subtitles don't work right now I still think they can be brought back to life would like to give them a chance. That said it would probably be good to explore the technical aspects of such a solution given the url changes between the old and new website (both of which are still active).
Looking at the content for Crying and Making Out I noticed that they're both Activity running gags, so why not "Crying (activity)"? If not running gag still works. --Stux 00:57, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
I don't have much to add here, but I should point out that filename redirects are good for more than just subtitles. They still work on the Homestar All-In-One script (or they would, if we fixed all the ones that are now changed). — It's dot com 03:35, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
Another example: trading cards/Trading Cards. Also ghosts/Ghosts. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 22:40, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
There's also geddup noise/Geddup Noise, the latter of which is a disambiguation page for geddup noise/The Geddup Noise. What should be done about this? Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 19:47, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Bit of a late reply, but, regarding the filename redirects, I do still think they're useful even when they mostly apply to the old version of the website. For example, someone may follow an outdated link to the Homestar Runner website that ends up returning a 404 error, or a link to the old site that's non-functional in modern browsers, or even a Wayback Machine archive, and if they're familiar with the wiki, they may search it for the filename in an attempt to find what's supposed to be there. Even if it's decided that they should redirect somewhere else, the redirect target should at least add a hatnote along the lines of "'x' redirects here. For the toon with the filename 'x', see y", but I'd prefer OldHR filenames keep redirecting to the articles for their respective toons, games, and so on. DEI DAT VM┌datvm center\super contra┘ 22:37, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Inside Jokes vs Running Gags

The precise definition of these terms seems to have lead to much confusion in the past, having been discussed on multiple separate occasions.

Inside Jokes defines the term as:

An inside joke is something that is only found on the site in two or three places, and is obscure in most or all instances. Something that has been featured more than three times usually becomes a regular feature of the site. [...] These are the things that people who are new to the Homestar Runner body of work would simply not get at all.

This seems to imply something appearing more than three times disqualifies it from being an inside joke — yet quickly browsing through the A's in Category:Inside Jokes we have A. Chimendez, AC/DC, Abdi LaRue, Alfred Hitchcock, Angels, Atari Dragon, and Atlanta Braves with six or more appearances.

If an inside joke is something "obscure" that non-Homestar fans "would simply not get at all" why include articles like Batman, John McEnroe, Professional Wrestling, or Mario, that have dozens of entries and are certainly funny to people not familiar with Homestar Runner? Why is Fhqwhgads, a string of letters that appears as gibberish to someone unfamiliar with Homestar Runner, not considered an inside joke?

Running Gags defines the term as:

A running gag is an amusing situation or line that constantly reappears throughout the site. Often the frequent repetition of the running gag is what makes it so humorous.

Again this sets up volume as the differentiator — a running gag "constantly reappears". Yet entries like Arby's, Buttdance, Featuring Oneself, and Strong Bad Losing His Pants have five or fewer appearances, fewer than several articles that are listed as Inside Jokes.

Furthermore, if these are meant to be two different terms, then how can articles be both an inside joke and a running gag? e.g. Kevin, Lowercase i's, The Cheat's Glowsticks, Thyme

Wikipedia defines an in-joke as:

a joke whose humour is understandable only to members of an ingroup; that is, people who are in a particular [...] community of shared interest. It is, therefore, an esoteric joke, only humorous to those who are aware of the circumstances behind it.

By this definition, then, it seems that Inside Jokes should be those things only recognizable to people familiar with Homestar Runner, i.e. Dumb Animal Characters, Graw Mad, Soolnds. With this definition, then, something can be an inside joke and a running gag. Real-world references would therefore be categorized solely as running gags; for example, Atari 2600 would be a running gag (because it occurs often) but NOT an inside joke (because the console's style is familiar and recognizable to non-H*R fans), while Strong Bad's Technology can be a running gag (because it occurs often) AND an inside joke (because Strong Bad's characterization is an important part of the humor).

In short:

  • The definitions of "Inside Jokes" and "Running Gags" are potentially confusing, and many pages in their respective categories do not fit the criteria set forth in the main page.
  • I suggest we adjust the definition of "Inside Jokes" to remove the qualifier that it only appear "two or three" times, keeping the qualification that it is something that a person unfamiliar with H*R would "not get at all"
  • Either way, several pages in both categories will likely need to be re-categorized.

Does anyone have thoughts or insights on these two categories? -- Bleu Ninja 00:56, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Should we toss all the celebrities and pop culture things into the Running Gag category and out of the Inside Jokes? -- 68.37.43.131 04:58, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
I almost feel like there should be a new, different category along the lines of "Pop Culture References" or "Real-World References". Several "running gag" categories already use the "references" phrasing — Category:Video game references, Game Show References, Popular Music References — and I agree with you that "a real-world reference is not an inside joke". Using Category:Electronics running gags as an example, we could move Intellivision, Linux, and MS Paint to a new Category:Electronics references and keep Couch Mumbling and Fake Error Pages in Electronics running gags. -- Bleu Ninja 02:53, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
As I go down the list of Inside Jokes I wrote in the Sandbox, I realize that there are many articles miscategorized as inside jokes where I have no idea where to relocate. Where do I put things like Angels and Demons, or Aztecs, or Van Buren? There's no category for mythological beings or historical figures that I know of. Abraham Lincoln is listed as a name running gag, but Van Buren jokes are more about his bust, not his name. Even Lincoln is better known for his likeness on pumpkins than his name. Creating entirely new categories like this is a bit above my pay grade. We better call the wizard. -- 68.37.43.131 04:03, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
There's also Category:Recurring_Themes which is for things that are not necessarily jokes or gags, in my understanding. (See also its talk page) -113.37.226.89 07:29, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
Good call, I was unaware of that category. I think "recurring theme" is a good category term for a lot of bits that are neither really IJs or RGs (Death, Internet Slang) where even if they are usually used in a certain context in H*R they are not original to the body of work; I think this fits that third category I brought up in my prior post. -- Bleu Ninja 16:35, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Unifying "Appearance" lists

The vast majority of articles listing "Appearances" simply feature a single list in chronological order (see Freaking, Strong Mad Smiling, Melt Shake). However, several articles subdivide appearances by toon type (sbemail, Big Toon, holiday, etc.):

There may be more but these were the ones I found at a first look. Although it is regularly helpful to make ad-hoc subcategories (e.g. Cool Shades, Atari 2600), I'm not seeing that the toon-type delineation is insightful in these articles. Reorganizing them into larger, chronological "Appearances" lists would be be better, though I believe this would have to be done manually and therefore would be a bit of a Project to take on. -- Bleu Ninja 00:59, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

"In Search of the Yello Dello" and "The King of Town DVD" naming and linking conventions

I've been editing old pages, dealing with the earliest history of the site in 2000-2001, and this issue of inconsistent and potentially poorly-chosen page titles is bothering me.

In 2000, the Telebision Toons Menu did not have an entry for "The King of Town DVD Old Version", that toon was simply titled "The King of Town". It is not really correct to say that The Blacksmith's first appearance was in "The King of Town DVD Old Version"; he debuted in a toon that was titled "The King of Town" because there was no "New Version" in 2000. For comparison, look at Homestar Runner Goes For The Gold! and Homestar Runner Goes for the Gold — despite their similar names, the page names do not tack on differentiators like "Homestar Runner Goes for the Gold Unfinished Book Sketches" and simply uses disambiguation templates to make the differences clear.

The other issue is that these two toons have very similar structure but follow different naming schemes: one has "DVD" appended to all titles while the other does not. This should be handled in a consistent manner.

The King of Town DVD

Here are the ways the KOT toons have been titled. Notably, no version ever included "DVD", menus have always referred to it simply as "The King of Town" (regardless if this was just the olde toon or the special edition collection menu).

  • Title card: "The King of Town: Special Edition"
  • Filenames: "kingmenu"/"kingoftown"/"kingoftown2"
  • Page titles: "The King of Town Special Edition DVD"/"The King of Town"/"The King of Town"
  • Toons menus: The King of Town
  • Everything Else Vol. 2 menu title: "The King of Town"

Of course, we want to avoid confusion with the character The King of Town. I suggest a few moves here:

It may be worth it to make a "The King of Town (disambiguation)" page as well.

Yello Dello

These are a little more tricky. Notably, the hyphenated "Yello-Dello" appears more often than "Yello Dello" (it is also hyphenated in the onscreen captions in the original version, and Matt hyphenated it in a 2011 tweet). The page titles are jokier and therefore not as consistent as the KOT ones:

  • Title card (DVD menu): "In Search of the Yello-Dello: Special Edition"
  • Title card (new): "In Search of the Yello-Dello"
  • Title card (olde): "In Search of the Yello-Dello"
  • Filenames: "yellodellomenu"/"yellodello"/"yellodello-mark2"
  • Page titles: "LIMITED EDITION COLLECTORS' PLATE -- I MEAN DVD!!"/"In Search of the Yello Dello"/"IN SEARCH OF THE YELLO-DELLO v2.0"
  • Toons menus: In Search of the Yello Dello
  • Everything Else Vol. 2 menu title: "In Search of the Yello Dello"

I suggest these page titles make more sense:

This is more complicated. It's not ideal for the page title "In Search of the Yello Dello" (hyphenated or not) to go from representing the DVD menu to representing the original toon (not to mention I think it requires admin input for a move like that?)... but I think these pages are low-trafficked to the point where it's not going to add a bunch of confusion. I'd also argue for hyphenated "Yello-Dello", at least for the original toon, as that's how it appears in the toon itself.

Linking

Currently most articles link to the DVD Menu articles (for instance, in "appearances"). I think that's fine since so much of the toons are the same w/r/t cast, settings, plot, etc. But when discussing debuts we ought to link to the specific version of the toon.

Thoughts and input would be welcome! It'd be a bit of a lift to adjust links to these articles so I don't want to be too hasty in renaming things. -- Bleu Ninja 03:45, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't feel too strongly either way, but I do think a title like "The King of Town (toon)" begs the question "which toon?". These toons may not have been called "old versions" when they were released, but they are now, so the titles should probably reflect that. As for the hyphenation of Yello Dello, I'd err toward what's listed on the toons menus personally, but I don't care too much as long as it's consistent. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 23:02, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Generally the wiki goes by the way the toons are listed in the official menus, or what is between the hyphens (added in the 2020 site update) in the html title if it's absent from the site's menus. (e.g. the toon with the page title "Bless This Mess! - Needlepernt - Homestar Runner" is at Needlepernt. Some also have their toon type in the title, though these are generally also on menus, such as "Your dreams were your ticket out... - Toons Weclome Back - Homestar Runner" which is at Weclome Back.) I note this because these are the names of these toons, as listed between the hyphens:
  • KOT old version: "The King of Town (original)"
  • KOT new version: "The King of Town (new)"
  • Yello Dello old version: "Yello Dello (original)"
  • Yello Dello new version: "Yello Dello v2.0"
There are also similar names for the respective commentaries, and for the deleted scenes and trailer for the Yello Dello cartoon. What Bleu Ninja lists above are the page titles, not actually the toons' titles. I'd rather support these inter-hyphen names (at least for the KOT new and original toons), as it'd parallel a number of toons having been renamed after the 2020 site update. That said, there are some exceptions, mainly due to the new name being ambiguous (such as Fluffy Puff Commercial having its H*R.com name changed to Fluffy Puff Marshmallows, which on the wiki refers to the product), the old name being used on the in-toon title card or another official listing, or just due to there being an existing redirect that would need to be removed by a sysop.
The Yello Dello new and old versions I'm less sure on, since I find it odd that the current versions are missing the "In Search of the" from the listed title. That said, I'm leaning (though not strongly) against the "Yello-hyphen-Dello" title since it's absent from the page title between-the-hyphens names, and I'm more firmly against the old version of the toons being at the non-disambiguated title since they're now given the (original) parenthetical on the site.
As for the special edition menus, "The King of Town" and "In Search of the Yello Dello" are how they're listed on the TV Time Toons Menu, and I actually lean towards having them at The King of Town (toon) (or possibly The King of Town (special edition) and In Search of the Yello Dello for that reason. I don't think Homestar Runner Goes For the Gold is that fair a comparison, as the unfinished book and the toon are disambiguated by an exclamation point and not by additional words acting as a qualifier, but I do think "(original)" and "(new)" would be better disambiguators than the current non-parenthetical "Old Version" and "New Version" article titles, with the added bonus that they're being used as the titles on the site. DEI DAT VM┌datvm center\super contra┘ 19:06, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
The differentiators (new) and (original) are amenable to me. I tend to dislike using "new" as a differentiator for two reasons: as time marches on it becomes awkward to refer to something that's 20 years old as "new", and if an additional version comes out suddenly the name "new" is no longer appropriate (see awkward "Newest" and "Newerest" filenames). That being said, I doubt there will be another remake of either toon (and if there is it surely will have some funny, additional subtitle) so "(new)" is probably fine here rather than a more future-proof "(remake)" or such. I do think it would be funny to use the title "The King of Town (olde)" in reference to the cartoon, but it's probably not worth being inconsistent with ISOTYD or potential confusion just for a joke.
Using "(toon)" or even just an undifferentiated title works for the menu; like I mentioned above, the content of both versions is largely similar so articles can link to the menus as shorthand for "this appears in both versions of the toon".
Since all the way back to the Lava Lamp Toons Menu, no menu has hyphenated the toon's title so like you point out it makes sense to defer to that. Real-world movies often have minor discrepancies with onscreen titles (for instance, the title card for Dune (2021 film) reads "Dune: Part One" but video releases still call it Dune), this is sort of the same thing I reckon. The discrepancy with the hyphen can be noted in Remarks. -- Bleu Ninja 18:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
I am against moving the King of Town DVD pages. "The King of Town" is the character, and "The King of Town DVD" is much more readily understood that it's talking about the toon. Disambiguators like "original" and "new" don't suggest that the page is about the toon. And re: "no version ever included 'DVD'": Strong Bad does call it "The King of Town Special Edition DVD" in the commentary, and the Chinese food toons menu says that as well. If they have to be moved, I guess I wouldn't have a problem moving them to "The King of Town Special Edition DVD", but that seems less necessary when "The King of Town DVD" is understandable. The Knights Who Say Ni 20:38, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Podstar Runner pages

I'm similarly against Podstar Runner having been moved to Podstar Runner 2008 and the original title being disambig'd, largely because of all the disambiguation links that leaves us with, but also because I think the "Podstar Runner" title deserves more than just a disambig, having been one of the major features of H*R both times it was updated (even if I myself never made use of it, having not yet discovered H*R during Podstar's first run and having taken a break from H*R during its second run). RickTommy (edits) 13:00, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

The problem I see is that, with 15-17 years between us and either iteration, the "Podstar Runner" title can refer to two podcasts that have equal relevance in the modern day. You could argue that the 2006 one is more deserving of the title due to being the podcast that started the whole thing, or the 2008 one due to being the podcast that ended it, and I don't think either of these arguments hold much more weight than the other. Perhaps the disambiguation could be transformed into an article looking at the complete history of the podcasts? Anything shared between them could be moved off their own articles and onto the new one. The disambiguation links are also a concern, which I'll ask The Cheatbot about once we reach some kind of consensus. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 21:41, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Completed or overruled projects

Font Redirects

The main purpose of this project is to make all the fonts redirect to their page and their appropriate anchor. Currently, typing in AhnbergHand to the search bar redirects you to Fonts#AhnbergHand.

Typing in a certain font currently does not redirect to the page and its anchor. My project will change that, but we need more users to claim. — MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 23:14, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

I see absolutely no reason to do this. The search box at the left works just fine. So does Google. So does going to the Fonts page and pressing Ctrl + F. Fonts aren't special to the Homestar Runner universe, and so there's no reason for someone to expect there to be an article proper on any one font. (AhnbergHand, being one of the most used fonts, is a special case.) We would just be adding redirects for their own sake. — It's dot com 23:46, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
So I take it this project is overruled? DENNIS T/C 17:40, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Image Captions

Some images need their captions updated, such as having links to the characters that are in the picture, links to where they are from, and links to where they are going. Also, I think it would be a good idea for all floppy disks from the Floppy Disk Container page to have links to the email or toon it's from and links to the game itself. — DBK! 15:35, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

The floppy disk container page already does have links, its in the "Appearances" column, also as for your caption thing, I don't quite catch what you are talking about, captions are just short blurbs about the pic or a line that was used in that scene. I R F 16:06, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Example: Image:Blue Hair 1-Up.PNG. We need to have captions more like that, and as for the floppy disks, I meant like a link to the Wikipedia article on the game shown on the disk. — DBK! 16:12, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
I see I R F 16:35, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Not all images need captions.--H*Bad 05:37, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
If the line under the image on the image's page is what you're talking about, that's not the caption. That's the summary, and there's already a project here for that. Thy Not Dennis (t/c) 12:38, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
You've replied to a three-year-old thread, just so you know. — It's dot com 19:46, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
That would explain why it's in this section. Sorry, I didn't notice. Thy Not Dennis (t/c) 20:33, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Music Video Visuals

When it comes to music videos, the visuals are nearly half the cartoon, yet only the lyrics are listed. "[Insert Toon's Name Here] Visuals" pages need to be added for every music video, similar to this one.

Kobe Problem

Figure out a way to fix the Kobe problem discussed here.

Fixed as of 17:28, 5 May 2005 (UTC). The solution is explained on the talk page.

TBC G4techTV Interview - 01 Aug 2003

Due to the success of pages like TMBG Concert - 25 Sep 2004 and Screen Savers Interview - 24 Jan 2005, we bring you Pulse Interview - 1 Aug 2003, a new page for the "Pulse" video interview available for download on the Links page.

It would be brilliant if somebody would do this.
P.S. Please sign your posts. — InterruptorJones[[]] 14:00, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)

I have since completed the entire transcript of this interview - so this can probably be "refactored" or removed entirely from Projects. Right now, I would appreciate if others would check my work for accuracy as a few more eyes will catch the errors that I most inevitably made. For the record, I intentionally omitted many instances of the word "Uh" spoken by Matt and Mike as they don't contribute to the interview. However, there likely are some "on the record" types who insist transcripts be as accurate a possible - feel free to include them if you feel compelled to. --The Paper 16:15, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)

Splitting Fun Facts

Any toon, game- any article with many fun facts needs to be split into the categories found in HRWiki:Standards.

Release Dates

I've noticed that a lot of Toons and E-mails now have 'release date' in bold at the top of the page, with an accompanying date. I really like this feature, but it only goes back so far. Until now. With the recent use of the Live Journal website, I have managed to compile a mostly complete list of updates, going back until late 2001. (It gets sketchy there.) So anyways, if anyone wants to go over those new past updates pages, and add the release dates to the many Toons, emails, etc., that would be much appreciated. Thanks. [[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]] 02:59, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

Tying Updates Together

I'm kinda afriad to do this, because they all have some kinda notoc thing or something on the pages, I don't know what they do, and am too scared I'll mess it up. So can somebody, somehow, tie all the updates pages, (2005, 2004, 2003, 2002, and 2001) all together? Either just expand the disclaimers at the tops of all of them, or maybe even make a new page with all of them on there or something? I dunno, it's up to you, but they really should be linked to somehow, now that they're all doneish. [[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]] 18:05, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

I made a template that we could use; what do you guys think? —Kilroy/talk[[]] 18:54, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
I like it.—StrongstarRunbad 18:58, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
So do I, it's always annoying when I try to add a new 2005 update, I have to go into the code to find the other page that I CAN edit and everything. If we add this to all 4 pages, It'll be way easier to add an update, and navigate. Count this a vote for yes.

[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]] 11:54, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)

That template rocks. Most certainly yes. →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

Running Times

It appears that at least tomstiff, possibly others, have begun adding 'Running Time' to many toons, expanding on the section that includes Date. I think this feature is almost as important and useful as date, so if anyone would like to add running times to the various e-mails and toons, I think they would apprecate a bit of help. [[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]] 20:37, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

Check all emails to date and they all have the running times I R F 17:56, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

TBC at SxSW

  • Page: SXSW Panel - 14 Mar 2005
  • The guys from HomestarRunner.com talk about their cartoons, their five years on the Internet, and show you a bunch of stuff you have never seen; including footage that they just shot at SXSW, like, today even. Puppet versions of their characters will no doubt stop by and insult you or your family. You can ask the boys questions and they will do their best to provide informative and clever answers. High fives for everyone!
The Brothers Chaps made an appearance at SxSW. There is tons and tons of info out there on this, since the kind of people who attend blogger conferences are typically bloggers. See Google and Technorati for many writeups. There are also a bunch of photos at Flickr. (Though be sure to get permission for any photos used.)
Note that there seems to be a bit of content from NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005.

Introducing a new Interwiki link

homestarrunner.com links

I just set up a new interwiki link that I think will make things super-easy around here (though I shant take the credit, it was Jones' idea). From now on, when you want to build a link to the official Homestar Runner site, use 

[[HR:sbemail.htm|Strong Bad Email]]

instead of 

[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.htm Strong Bad Email]

It's that simple. —JoeyDay (Talk) 15:23, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

All links to homestarrunner.com should be changed to the new interwiki-type shortcut format, since now with MediaWiki 1.4 all external links have a rel="nofollow" attribute. For information on "nofollow", please see this Google article. -- Tom 14:19, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)
Actually, that was my idea when we were moving to MediaWiki :P - furrykef (Talk at me) 08:21, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I think you had a similar idea. -- Tom 20:42, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
That's not what I was talking about at all. I was talking about Interwiki, exactly the way Joey did it. I don't know if that discussion actually took place on this wiki or not, though. Of course, it's not important anyway. :) - furrykef (Talk at me) 12:53, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Forum links

There's another new interwiki link: Forum

Example: [[Forum:1226|forum thread re: "montage"]] becomes forum thread re: "montage".

Again, it's just that simple. — It's dot com 23:11, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I'm on it. -Polly 00:14, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Fan Stuff List

I'm trying to get all the Fan Stuff Items onto the Fan Stuff page. #1 - 10 are already there, if anybody could do a few I'd appreciate it. --Gafaddict 13:10, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

Sightings

The Sightings page has some terrible grammar and spelling and is altogether very cluttered. The whole page needs to be cleared out. →FireBird

I think Sightings should be split into various page like TV Sightings, Comic Sightings etc. That nobody has to sift through a million "this webcomic made a reference" sightings to get to interesting ones. Aurora the Homestar Coder 16:59, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Food

I recently added a new article, Food , because there are something like 30 different food articles which aren't connected. I didn't have enough time, though, to write much or make a very extensive list. Please help out. I also added a Cuisine section to the Free Country, USA page.

- Anonymous

Lists like you are thinking of making are generated by our category system. See Category:Food and drinks. Also, I left a comment on the talk page regarding the merits of that article. -- Tom 15:44, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Things to Merge


Track Information Template

I'm trying to get all the pages related to the tracks on the Strong Bad Sings CD to use the Template:Track information in the "Detailed Information" section, rather than everything being typed out. You can see the template in action on the page for The System Is Down. --Gafaddict 18:03, 3 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Easter Egg Character Problem

I've noticed that in toons and emails, the characters that are only seen in easter eggs sometimes have "(easter egg)" following their names on the cast, such as haircut and others don't. -- User:Tompkins

Give an example of the "don't." --Jay (Gobble) 18:39, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Ignored rule

If a character does something while speaking a line of dialogue, or if more description is needed for their manner of speaking or inflection (e.g. if they're singing or whispering) the action (if it is not too long to describe in a few words) can be enclosed in curly braces — { } — and made italic, like this: {goes to the refrigerator}. Note that the curly braces themselves are also italic. Short actions like these do not need to be proper sentences.

The bold rule is probably one of the most ignored rules ever. Go through the various transcripts and you'll see tons of examples of long in-dialogue actions, some of which don't even relate to the speaker. This problem needs to be fixed, but it's way too big for me to do alone. (Here is an extreme example of this problem.) - Joshua 14:18, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

If the rule is so widely ignored, wouldn't that imply that the rule needs review instead of the application of the rule? I'm not saying that modeling should or shouldn't be fixed, but I just want to make sure people don't get over zealous in taking this on. -- Tom 21:03, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
Without meaning to sound ignorant, where or how should the long in-dialogue actions be transcribed? In modeling the actions are quite important to the plot and script, so it would be a fault if they were left out. How else should they be written? -- Michelle Mabelle 12:33 7 April 2006

Image copyright tags

Add appropriate copyright tags to every image on the wiki. Categories and tags can be found through Category:Images by copyright status — User:ACupOfCoffee@

Done! Now verify none were skipped, and that they're all correct. (Some may need more than one) — User:ACupOfCoffee@

TGS template

Took a mixture of Bill's template code from the prexnext template, and some from IDC's code from the sbemailnav template and made {{tgsnav}}. This added a watch button and the issue number being standardized. Some pages had the issue number under the main title, some didn't. I R F 14:57, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Please proof for error as this is my first time working with a template I R F 14:58, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
To those not in the know: this nav is based out of {{sbenav}}. Discussion for this can be found here. --Stux 16:33, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Looks great! I guess this can go in the "completed" section now? --Stux 16:40, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
The only question that I have, for which I could find an answer in the original discussion, did we decide finally on the watch link being there or is there a chance that people want it in the middle? I R F 17:15, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Lappy Email Template

Ok, to make creating the Lappy email boxes easier, I created a template. You type the subject, then the email (click edit to see proper way). Template:Lappyemail is the name. Here's an example:

Template:Lappyemail

Tell me if you think it's easier!

Bluebry 23:52, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Navigation templates

This project dicussion originated from the Talk:Strong_Bad_Email/Archive_2#Navigation_template discussion.

Toon Type Status worked on by Templates used
Big Toons Image:Wiki_tick.png completed I R F thanks to Venusy for some fixes. {{toonnav}}
Shorts Image:Wiki_tick.png completed Bluebry
I R F 		{{toonnav}}
Powered by The Cheat not going to complete because too many PBTC pages are shared with email pages I R F N/A
Puppet Stuff Image:Wiki_tick.png completed I R F {{puppetnav}}
Holiday_Toons Image:Wiki_tick.png completed I R F {{toonnav}}
Marzipan's Answering Machine Version Image:Wiki_tick.png completed Bill
Stux 		{{mamnav}}
Strong Bad Email Image:Wiki_tick.png completed It's dot com
— Lapper (talk)
Stux
Bill 		{{sbenav}}
Teen Girl Squad Image:Wiki_tick.png completed I R F {{tgsnav}}
Intros Image:Wiki_tick.png completed was already done {{Succession box}}
Character Videos Image:Wiki_tick.png completed I R F {{charnav}}
Main_Pages Image:Wiki_tick.png completed I R F {{mainnav}}

Suggestions

As for the character video, why not just do one for each main characters? — DBK! 03:26, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

I second that. --Stux 03:47, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Main Page Nav Template

This conversation was moved from Talk:Main_Pages#Main_Page_Nav_Template.

Does anyone think we need a navigation template for the main pages like we have for the Toons, TGS Issues, Answering Machines and SBEmails? You know, like, if you were on Main Page 5, there would be arrows at the top of the screen pointing to Main Pages 4 and 6. Just a thought. I thought it would be prooty awexome because the main pages pages go in sequential order. Any opinions on how stupid and/or borderline mental that sounded? — Has Matt? (talk) 00:16, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

I, personally, don't think it's a bad idea. It's looked good so far. --Stux 02:43, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Great idea are you doing that one? If not I don't mind I just don't want us both doing it at the same time. I R F 14:38, 1 February 2006 (UTC) I was thinking something like this:
go to Main Page 1 ← Main Page 23 Main Page 2 →
Right now I am not doing it so feel free to work on that. However, I was wondering about the secondary main pages such as this one that do not have a number assigned to them. The current form of {{mainnav}} does not allow for listings of such pages. As for the "go to Main Page X" tag, it might be slightly long, but the only other option i was thinking of was "go to Main Page" which isn't that much shorter. So that should be adequate I guess. You may have to alter the nav so that you have to type: {{mainnav|main1.html|Main Page 23|Main Page 2}} in order to handle secondary pages. In this case, the use of a generic navigation template (there should be one out there somewhere -- SBEmail talk perhaps?) would be better. --Stux 17:42, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
That was quick work! Hopefully the comment above won't set you back ... much. Anyway I just wanted to note that the blank space to the left of the nav makes me a little "uncomfortable". I don't like having that big gap between the title and the first line of text. Oh! I know... I think i know how to fix it and i'll fix it in the first main page only... gotta eat lunch and get to work! --Stux 17:52, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
My solution is not going to work. I'll have to look at it later. --Stux 17:54, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
I don't think those egg pages need to be lumped in with the rest of them. They are eggs and as such are not in order like the rest of them. It would not be in the list of main page that users would be looking normally (which is what the nav is made for; easier access to HRWIKI knowledge). I don't think the goal of the navigation buttons are to link every article in every area. IF we decide those main pages get nav button to, I say nav them JUST with each other keeping them seperate from the ither main pages I R F 18:00, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
That <big>IF</big> comment makes sense (I just wanted to paste the code). If we take the Strong Bad Emails as precedent (and TGS), the DVD emails and NQSB emails don't have anything currently and are separated from the real emails. I'll looks at the template formatting soon. --Stux 18:40, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Ok I fixed the spacing issue. I also added a list of the templates we're using. I will add a cat to them soon. --Stux 18:52, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Help with Shorts Template

I signed up for the shorts template. Is it okay to have 4 of {{{X}}} these in there? Bluebry 03:36, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

I created it, um... Template:shortnav. Tell me what you think. Here's an emaple:


Toon Category: Shorts
watch ← Commandos in the Classroom Strong Bad is a Bad Guy →
Bluebry 03:40, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
What if we changed it to Template:toonnav, which would be a generic template. We don't really need the "Short:" identifier. — It's dot com 03:42, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Umm, okay, but this isn't for big toons. Shorts. Bluebry 03:45, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Oh oh oH! I get it! Good idea. Sure. moving! Bluebry 03:46, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Mov'd! Template:toonnav Bluebry 03:48, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Cool. But, now that I think about it, are the toons considered to be in an order? Wouldn't this be sufficient? — It's dot com 03:50, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Well, if they're in the order on the TV guide. Bluebry 03:51, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
That's how I did the example. Bluebry 03:52, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Links to be fixed

TriviaTime

Please help add interesting questions to JoeyDay's TriviaTime.

DVD info on certain toons

All toons and emails that have been released on a DVD need to have a template noting that it's on a DVD. Like this: {{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 2}}

Finished it. Thanks Trey56 for doing the strong bad emails. Okay, bye. TheYellowDart—(t/c)

TV Time Codes

I've noticed the 3-digit codes on the TV Time menu. I would like to put this code on every 'toon that can be accessed from the TV Time menu. I've already started this, in the article for more armies. Swarthily,

Bubs Concession Stand

I mean, Superfield Credit Union

I'm glad you're willing to help out, but I'm not so sure that's a good idea. The information is already on the Toons page, and it's more relevant there than to the toons themselves. — It's dot com 15:43, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Actually, I like the idea. The codes often relate to the toon in some way and are often funny. — Defender1031*Talk 01:44, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Which is why we explain them on the toons page. But the codes are a specific part of the TV guide, and aren't really that relevant to the toons themselves. As such, noting them on each and every toon article would not really give more insight to the respective toons. On the other hand, noting them all in one long list, as we currently do, is most appropriate. — It's dot com 01:50, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Underscores

As anyone who has been to Recent Changes in the past few days has probably seen, I've been making a massive effort toward removing underscores from links. It has been brought to my attention that some of these edits have not necessarily been the will of the community and I should have brought it up before starting the project. I will admit that some very good suggestions have been made (like marking them all as minor edits so they could be easily hidden in RC (which I was not aware of when I began)). And some opinions have come out that suggest that a consensus should be reached before these types of edits continue. My philosophy was that all double-bracket links were worth changing from underscores to spaces. Double-bracket links include: [[Internal Links]], [[Wikipedia:]], [[Image:]], [[HR:]], [[Mirror:]], etc. If you have an opinion as to whether or not any of these should be left with underscores, please reply to this message. OptimisticFool 22:05, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

For anything other than an Internal Link, why does it matter? —BazookaJoe 22:12, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
I support this in general, although I should point out that as long as an underscore isn't showing where it's not supposed to, then there's no technical reason to make a specific edit to change it. In other words, I often remove underscores, but it's usually a piggyback with another, more substantial edit. I do think, however, that we should leave underscores in HR and Mirror links, as the files to which they point actually have underscores in the names (and even though a similar case could be made for image links, I think those look better with spaces). — It's dot com 22:14, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
I agree with It's dot com. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 22:19, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm confused. If there's no technical reason for spaces rather than underscores, then why do it? Why come Image:Homestar Runner.png is better than Image:Homestar_Runner.png? —BazookaJoe 22:44, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
No real reason. Aesthetics, mainly. I personally think that internal links with spaces are easier to read than those with underscores. — It's dot com 22:47, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
That's cool. So I guess unless we are dealing with strongbad email.exe vs. strongbad_email.exe, then it's not really "worth changing," as OptimisticFool stated, unless you like it better aesthetically and are piggybacking it on another edit. Well, it's certainly not worth spending hours focusing on. —BazookaJoe 23:03, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Main Character Categories

I recently made categories for the main characters. Can anyone think of any reason why we shouldn't have this? If you don't think we should, then could you explain why all the Coach Z and Bubs character variations are listed as Main Characters but nobody else's is? Stev0 15:05, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

I like this and don't know why we haven't had it before. Now that there are categories for the main characters, we should clean out the Main Characters category. For example, now that there is a category for Bubs, The Thnikkaman should be only in his category, not the main characters category too. — It's dot com 22:11, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
That's exactly the reason I created the categories in the first place. However, the Bubs and Coach Z variations are in those boxes, which I forgot how to edit. Stev0 05:07, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
There, I think I've got it all cleaned up. — It's dot com 21:08, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
I was going to move this to the completed section then I realized that the characters category also could use some cleanup. I'll see if I can work on that a little later on. --Stux 01:42, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
This work was completed in 2018. --Stux 08:39, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
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