Talk:Main Pages

From Homestar Runner Wiki

Jump to: navigation, search
Ding! Main Pages is a featured article, which means it showcases an important part of the Homestar Runner body of work and/or highlights the fine work of this wiki. We also might just think it's cool. If you see a way this page can be updated or improved without compromising previous work, feel free to contribute.

Contents

[edit] Bold?

On each main page, should each category (toons, games, characters) be bolded? I think they should. -- FireBird|Talk

[edit] 2005?

Should we take new screenshots of the main pages for 2005 and get rid of the old ones? →evin290

No, I don't think we need to. -- Tom 22:55, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

[edit] Click and drag trick

Do we really need the instances of the click and drag trick in the fun facts for each main page? Isn't mentioning it here enough? Aurora Szalinski 20:05, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)

That was the standard until today(?). I'd have figured that it would have been mentioned here if it had changed, but obviously, your comment is the only one. Was there any consenses as to the change? --Jay 20:21, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
I just noticed somebody editing this info into the fun facts of each main page earlier this evening. Aurora Szalinski 20:26, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
Yeah, we always excluded that information as "flash-byproducts" in the past. Is it worth keeping now? -- Tom 09:22, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
I don't see why it'd be worth keeping. It's not "fun," although it IS a fact. In any event, it's a flash glitch, probably should go byebye. -- AgentSeethroo 09:25, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
I'm new here, and I added that stuff because I thought it would be okay. Anydangway, someone suggested that maybe there could be a different category (besides Fun Facts) to put them all on, called "Click-and-Drag Bugs" or something like that. So, yeah. Anyways, you guys can delete all that stuff, except for the actual facts I added that are unique to the pages. --Joshua 12:28, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
I think we should delete all "fun facts" that are something like, "If you roll over 'email', then quickly roll over 'games', it looks like ...". These aren't anything interesting. Just little tricks with flash. →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]
I've gone ahead and deleted all Flash tricks from the Main Pages. →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]
Great jorb! Aurora Szalinski 20:56, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
Bad jorb! They're interesting, and they're fun. I like them, and I'd never have known about them if they weren't on the wiki. -Unknownwarrior33 13:14, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Different Website

Does anyone know that if you go to www.homsar.com, you will go to some wierd pic of someone rock climbing? Can someone explain please?

WAIT! Never mind... It's something else... Like some writing...

[edit] Change of Title?

If you type "Main Page" without a "s" you go to the home page. Should we change the title? - Catman87(user page being worked on)

No.I assume that was delebrate.

[edit] Gallery

Does anyone think this should be a gallery, like Items or Characters?--minibaseball.png Bkmlb(talk to me·stuff I did) 01:06, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Meh, I think that this page doesn't need a gallery. Rogue Leader / (my talk) 01:07, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Why not go for it? We already have the images. Let's at least see how it looks. Put it at the bottom to start. — It's dot com 01:09, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)
I think this begs for a gallery. small_logo.pngUsername-talk 01:10, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)
I'll do the first five, and if anyone thinks it's bad, say so.--minibaseball.png Bkmlb(talk to me·stuff I did) 01:12, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)
First five=done. Comments?--minibaseball.png Bkmlb(talk to me·stuff I did) 01:17, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Looks good, but the images are a little small for me. Rogue Leader / (my talk) 01:18, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)
The image size in a gallery is always 120px x 120px max. It might look better at the bottom without all the page title business. — It's dot com 01:22, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)

if that is all it can get, I don't like it. I simply can't see the screenshots well. Rogue Leader / (my talk) 01:29, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)

But can you see the screenshots well enough to tell which main pages they are?--minibaseball.png Bkmlb(talk to me·stuff I did) 01:31, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)
I don't like it. I'm kind of not liking this overuse of galleries. (I liked it with characters and items, but that's all) Anyway, I like having the page titles up there on the list, along with our own name. If we do use the gallery, we need to have our own names up there along with the number, because its sometimes to hard to see what each main page is about, in "Main Page #" is hardly descriptive enough. - Joshua 01:32, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)
I guess I'll be fine with it as long as it has the "Main Page #" part and our little name for it. (In a neat manner of course, like 20X6 characters.) - Joshua 01:33, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)
They're fine for the purpose we're using them for. As long as the screenshots are in addition to the rest of the page, then they're not hurting anything. Keep at it, BK. We need to see them all to get the full effect. The worst thing would only be that we look at it and decide to revert later. — It's dot com 01:34, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)
No, I think that we are over using galleries. The galleries on Characters, Games, and Items were one thing, but are we going to use them for every list? Rogue Leader / (my talk) 01:44, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Dude, text is out of style. Galleries are cool. :) Seriously though, galleries are logical for some things... but my poor game list!!! :( - Joshua 01:46, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)
What about the other menus?--minibaseball.png Bkmlb(talk to me·stuff I did) 02:03, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Oh! Good job Dot com!--minibaseball.png Bkmlb(talk to me·stuff I did) 02:34, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Rather, good jorb BK! — It's dot com
But why do we have both the original list and the gallery? --Sam Goldfish 20:46, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
I think that's so the themes/page titles and stuff can be put in list form and be easier to search for. --DorianGray
We could use a table to list both the screenshots and the themes/page titles, like we do with the Toon page. --Sam Goldfish 21:02, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
I like that. Tables make everything better. --DorianGray
Nah. The point of the gallery is so you can see them all at once. The point of the list is so that you can read them all at once and to give a little extra info. Having both is useful and keeps each individual section from being too cluttered. (In addition, I don't see why we need a screenshot next to every toon, but I'm not going to try and change that now.) — It's dot com 21:10, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
Leave it the way it is. A table would make the pictures to small to be worth anything. small_logo.pngUsername-talk 21:20, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
Leave it. Looks good for people who just want the text. For people who want too look at the pretty pics: Scroll down. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 21:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
But it's violating Once And Only Once... --Sam Goldfish 21:40, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
What if we remove our names (i.e.: The Moon, The Alps, Tropical island ect.) from the first of second list, and have just the page titles on the other? Elcool (talk)(contribs) 21:45, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
It's fine the way it is. Once and Only Once is a good guideline, but it's not a straitjacket. It can be overruled with the consent of those involved (another example is different ways we have chosen to list the Strong Bad Emails). Yes it means in this case that we have to update two lists, but they don't make new main pages often enough for that to be an issue. Plus, it's easy since both lists are on the same page. — It's dot com 21:52, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Old News Items

I had decompiled main8.swf and was looking through it, when I found some old news items, which were from before the news bubble was in a seperate .swf file. There's some interesting stuff on it, and they're all reallllly old.

Here's a list. I put them in order of where they are in the Flash library, from top to bottom, but judging by the content, I'd say the oldest one is at the bottom.

(Last Updated 10-2-01)

(Unknown Update Date)

(Unknown Update Date)

(Unknown Update Date)

Just a bit of estimates - it would appear the first Strong Bad Email was released about the same time as Marzipan's Answering Machine 4. The second Strong Bad Email was released around the same time as there were Strong Bad shirts in the store, and many othert things.

If anybody could put some estimate dates on these, it'd be great. All of these should help fill in some of the items at this page.

I have also uploaded a file to a place where you can see what the news bubbles look like: http://simpedia.5gigs.com/supersam/newsbuttons.swf

[edit] Lowercase

The labels for the buttons read "'toons" (with an apostrophe and all lowercase), "games", etc., but we list them as "Toons" (no apostrophe and title case), "Games", etc. Is there some reason for this? — It's dot com 05:32, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

My guess would be it matches the nomenclature used in our Main Page Main Menu and their subject's respective page titles such as this. --Stux 05:45, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
I don't know... the only time I'm aware that we change capitalization is to make the Teen Girl Squad issues conform to proper English. In all other cases, like for example the Weekly Fanstuff, we transcribe it exactly as-is. — It's dot com 06:11, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I don't know either. This and all of the main page pages do that. Maybe it was cuz it looks prettier!? Ok I'm out of ideas. Officially. --Stux 15:35, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Random Main Page Redirect

(Hmmm, a minute ago I couldn't think of the word "redirect"). Both the "come on in" button, and the "main" button on the toolbar take you to a random main page. At first I thought there was a "main.html" or "mainpage.html" link that would take you to a random page. It didn't. Does anyone know if there's a .html page floating around there somewhere in the hr.com site that would do just that - take you to a random main page? Or is it all activescript? Thanks! (If not, is there perhaps an external mirror page that would have the same effect?) --Stux 15:11, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

The "come on in" and "main" buttons are hard-coded with a script: getURL("main" + Math.floor(Math.random() * TOTAL_MAINPAGES) + 1 + ".html",""). It builds the URL using a random-number function based on the total number of main pages (which incidentally is correctly set to 23 in the navbar and incorrectly set to 20 on the index page). — It's dot com 17:15, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
Cool, thanks! That clears things up. :)--Stux 17:39, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] News button

I think it's about time that the "News Button" have its own page! Don't you think? I should include a history of everything it has said along with its description. It is too late for me to start that now (and I'm not really sure how to go about it), but i'll leave links to it around in this page and the Secret Pages page. --Stux 06:05, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

The Navigation Bar could have its own page too. It would have to be linked here, in virus and in Secret Pages. --Stux 06:15, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
Go for it. Note that we call the navigation bar the "navbar" for some reason I can't remember (maybe it's a filename), so that should at least be a redirect. — It's dot com 17:02, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
See also Site Components. -- Tom 20:31, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2k6 changes

BTW, I went to the site and main pGE 23 Is not updated. just warning you guys....--Ed500 13:11, 10 January 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Bug?!?!?1

Went to hr to see if it was finally updated and got a huge scare - instead of clicking "come on in" I happened to click "main" and didn't have the buttons in the top right corner. No "first time here,", no new email button (no button at all), and no quote, sketch, etc. buttons. I clicked the numbers for the various front pages and none of them had the buttons. I was worried that the good times were OVER, came here and found no mention of it, went back, clicked "come on in" and everything was fine. Now I can't get the problem to happen again, unless it requires a browser close to 'reset' thing to get it to happen.

Similar bugs have been reported recently. From what we can tell, the site has been running a bit slow lately. -- Tom 04:19, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Main Page Nav Template

This dicussion will be continued on HRWiki:Projects#Main_Page_Nav_Template.

[edit] List places

Listing the places seems kind of redundant. For example, on Main Page 4, the description reads "Homestar Runner is in a bowling alley," and then the place (two lines down) is "A bowling alley". What of substance does this add? — It's dot com 19:10, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

If a fan want to see if the same bowling alley was ever used again, he can see that there is no link to it and concludes that it was never reused. Same thing with the others. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 19:14, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
I'd tend to agree with Dot com. If the location is an established place in the H*R universe, I can see it's being mentioned. But, for example, how do you describe Main Page 16's place? There's The Stick, but it's not The Field.
Wouldn't the absence of mention of place lead one to the same comclusion? Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 19:16, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
That is why I left it blank for now. No mention at all can lead to the idea that we are just sloppy. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 19:19, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
I like it for consistency. Having the place on some, and no place on others just doesn't look good to me. I would much rather have Place on every page. Thunderbird 19:23, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
What's the point of consistency when we're trying to force a square peg into a round hole? "Place: A notebook"? Where is that? The description alone should suffice. — It's dot com 19:25, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
In addition, Main Page 23 would have us believe that these main pages are all just sets, or are at the very least staged. It's possible that the places listed don't actually exist (as though the field and Strong Bad's house do, but you get my point). — It's dot com 19:28, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
Two other points. If we use Place, it should not be Places unless there are more than one place. And they probably should match what's on this page's list and gallery. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 19:29, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
Dot com: This is not trying to put a square peg in any round hole. The main page does happen inside a page of a notebook. I know it's not the most Orthodox of places to have a main page in, but it is true. And until proven otherwise, lets please refer to anything as it looks. For all you know the whole website can be inside Homeschool Winner's head.
Qermaq: No probalo. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 19:32, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
Don't forget the setting of a certain feature... Thunderbird 19:37, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
You're missing my point. Referring to it as it looks is fine... in the description... which is right above the so-called place. I'll ask again: why are we noting the same information twice so close to itself? — It's dot com 19:38, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
Then change the summaries? And in reply to everything taking place in Homeschool Winner's head: according to the main menu of Everything Else, Volume 1, it all takes place in Homestar Runner's eye, which is still quite the paradox. Thunderbird 19:41, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
Well, the description was written by us, the place was made by TBC. We can always change what we wrote earlier. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 19:42, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Main Page Button Bug?

On Homestarrunner.com, sometimes when I press the "Main" button, it sends me to this site: http://www.homestarrunner.com/mainNaN.html Zonis (Talk | contribs) 01:26 3 August 2006 (UTC) (left unsigned)

I just hit it like a hundred times. Nothing. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 01:59, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
The main page button on virus does that... I dunno whether it's a bug or if it's intentional... the code looks like it's a bug, but it fits thematically... personally I think it was originally a bug, but they saw it, and left it in... that's just speculation, though. If you care: the navbar has a variable called TOTAL_MAINPAGES, and later picks a main page number from 1-TOTAL_MAINPAGES so that they can easily change it later if they add new main pages. When they copied the navbar into virus, they copied the random stuff, but not the variable itself, so when you click the button it tries to pick a random number from 1-undefined, and ends up with NaN. --phlip TC 02:20, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fun Facts and Glitches

Why do anonnies always try to add Glitches as a separate category from Fun Facts on the Main Page pages? They never do this on other pages (even though there are other pages where the Fun Facts haven't been split)... Maybe they're just lower-profile? And it's always glitches they try to add separately - never Goofs or Remarks or Whatevers. {sigh} --It's Jay Times! (tines) 19:31, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Loading

None of them are loading! The loading things comes up, but that's all. TheThin 11:40, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

They all work fine for me... Try clearing your cache, or turning your cd tray into a cupholder... Thank G-d i'm not in India... — DeFender1031*Talk 11:47, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "What's New" Button

Did anyone notice that they changed the "What's New" Button? Before, it used to scroll no matter what. Now, if your mouse is on it, it won't scroll to the next thing unless you take your mouse off of it. We've got to talk about this somewhere. But where? Trivia? I don't know. The exact date that it happened would be nice too. Philip8o 04:23, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] All The Action

Is there some sort of unwritten standard that when the image to accompany the article is uploaded, it is to be uploaded with all the effects going on? It seems that nearly all of the main pages have some effect happening in the image. In my opinion, it makes the image look sloppy. If the image were just Homestar standing with nothing going on, I don't think that it would look so bad. Although, the new main page I feel should be a semi-exception, with the Xeriouxly Forxe version of the Field and The Stick in the background. StrongAwesome 21:39, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I think it's more interesting to see as much of the the effects and action as we can reasonably squeeze in. If someone wants to see the unadorned main page, they can always just visit it. — It's dot com 21:45, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] When page titles change

I noticed while doing some gnome work that Main Page 3, Main Page 9, and Main Page 16 have had their page titles changed since their introduction, according to findings done by ThePizz. If something like this has happened before in ye olde knowledge base, how was it handled? The reason I ask is I'm wondering where others believe this sort of information should be placed. Does this go in the article's lead, or is it better noted in the Trivia section? Soiled Bargains (talk|ctrb) 22:24, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Personal tools