Talk:Strong Bad Email

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E-mail Command Lines

Is there a list of all the command lines Strongbad has used to check his e-mail? (IE: sbemail.exe, strongbad_email.exe or run "Strongbad's__email", etc...)

Each of the computers' pages (Tandy 400, Compy 386, and Lappy 486) has a list of ALL the commands used on that particular computer. --DorianGray

A Quick Question...

does anybody know why the title of the sbemail page is "denny's menu"? i looked around, and tell me if i missed anything...-Homsar7^{(Hom · Sar)}

I believe it's a reference to the resturaunt Denny's. --DorianGray

No caps

All of the titles of our email pages are in lowercase. This is because they're lowercase in the email menu, right? Well, they aren't lowercase on the Podcast page, and so officially the titles are capital, maybe. I don't think we should change these, but I'm just throwing it out there. Salty^Talk! 22:10, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Hm, I'm not sure what to think of that. Technically, all the emails had lowercase titles when they were first released, but if they were changed to uppercase, does that mean TBC have intentions of changing them to uppercase? Or could it just be some incompatability issue with the iPod software? I think this issue should merit expert consultation. · · T²|_Things 22:14, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

There are capital letters in a few emails on the site - 3 Wishes and CGNU, specifically, cross my mind. --Jay (Gobble) 22:30, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

What he's getting at is that on the podcast, emails like techno are capitalized. So the question is, should we capitalize these titles as well? Or more accurately, how should we handle this? · · T²|_Things 22:33, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I know what he was getting at, but... ah, you know what, I can't even remember what I was trying to get at. --Jay (Gobble) 22:35, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

It's not just Podstar; the email titles on the DVDs are all capitalized. Has anybody noticed that the DVD-only email articles are capitalized? Now that this is thrown into the pot, the problem with capitalizing only Podstar emails can be thrown out. Personally, I'm in favor of capitalizing Strong Bad Emails with respect to the DVD and Podstar, but first, I'm going to need someone to do some research for me, since I do not have access to my DVDs:

• Which multiple-word and special-case titles are capitalized Like This, and which, if any, are capitalized Like this?
• Do any capitalizations on the DVD conflict with Podstar?

Due to the breadth of such a project, this is going to need a well-defined plan of action, including: when and by whom the titles are going to be moved, what high-priority redirects need to be fixed right away, how to accomplish fixing all other redirects, how to find and fix all non-linked titles, the understanding that all future emails will have to have a lowercase redirect, and stuff like that. It's a massive project and a very big change over how it's been done these years, but I don't think it will be too much to get used to. —BazookaJoe 23:46, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

WaitWaitWaitWaitWait. Putting "Road Trip" in the search box yields road trip immediately. A lower-case title being found with a capitalized search is not an issue. I recommend not changing the current page names, as they are the historic first names, and they won't break a search. If a DVD or Podcast-only sbemail should be capitalized (like Videro Games), we should capitalize the same. If it's shown a capped title won't properly lead to the sbemail's page, a redirect should be made. And finally, the changed title should be noted in the Fun Facts on the sbemail's page. There's no reason to change all the locks when the key's not out. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  00:53, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

It has occurred to me that capitalizing will create ambiguity between pom pom and Pom Pom, marzipan and Marzipan, etc. --Jay (Gobble) 01:00, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Good point. It will also break the Greasemonkey script. Loafing 01:02, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, (character) can be added, and scripts can be modified. But the real question is which title is canonical? Originally, most sbemails are un-capped. I strongly suggest staying with that, and solving any problems with redirects and the like. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  01:06, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree; we should stick with the email titles as shown on the Strong Bad Email menu. DVDs are not on the site, and I don't consider the Podstar menu to have more weight than the real email menu. — It's dot com 01:07, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Whoa, you guys actually considered it? Well, I also thought of the conflicts with Marzipan and Pom Pom. This would also be a whole lot of work. It's just that two official things have them capitalized "DVDs and Podstar) and only one (though it's more official) has it capped. I dunno. Did we reach consensus? Salty^Talk! 01:17, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

I think we have officially reached consensus that the titles NOT be changed unless it is shown on the website. · · T²|_Things 01:19, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

To be more precise: we will capitalize according to the first actual title. Subsequent tilles will at best reach it through a redirect of sorts. So sbemails debuting on the site get the site title, sbemails debuting on the DVD get the DVD title, and if a sbemail ever debuts on Podcast, it gets that title. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  01:46, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

What if the sbemails were titled according to number? (e.g. 001. Some Kinda Robot) This way, marzipan & pom pom can be simply titled, "059. Marzipan" and "108. Pom Pom," respectively, rather than titling them, "Marzipan (SBEmail)" and "Pom Pom (SBEmail)," respectively again. Plus, nobody will have to search the emails by lowercase letters.

I don't think that's a good idea at all. Under that system, just about every time we wanted to refer to any email, we'd have to use a piped link. I can't see any compelling reason whatsoever to change the status quo. — It's dot com 15:54, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Not quite Strong Bad email

Is that missing Lappy short a NQSBE? It does relate to his email checking.68.239.213.209 13:54, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I think so, yes. — It's dot com 14:49, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree. At first I didn't think so, but after looking at the list of what else has been considered NQSBE's, I think that this another one. I R F 14:57, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Retirement

Shouldn't the retirement email be labeled like this?

158. cliffhanger 159. retirement A 160. retirement B

RocketMasterZ 04:49, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

It's officially 159 a & b, per the URLs: sbemail159a.html, sbemail159b.html. —BazookaJoe 04:53, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, but it's not very, accurate. RocketMasterZ 05:17, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, it's a bit odd that they called two seperately released emails one email, but they did call it that, so that's what we stick with. Heimstern Läufer 05:30, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

How is it not accurate? It's precisely what TBC called them. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  12:48, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Retirement, part 2

Just for argument's sake- I put this to a vote. I believe that emails 159a and 159b should be placed in the proper era where they were answered in. Opinions? --ISlayedTheKerrek 20:29, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Er - they were answered in the Lappy era. That was the whole point of the plot. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  20:32, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Also, the point of the list is to keep them in numerical order. The eras and email-style formatting are just nifty things we've added on. Plus, parts A and B don't exist separately anymore. — It's dot com 20:39, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Emails 119-present are Lappy era emails, not necessarily Lappy email emails. This is like how there are no Pom Pilot era email(s) or Tangerine Dreams era email(s). —BazookaJoe 20:44, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Eggs

I just saw the newest Weebl and Bob cartoon in which they reference Strong Bad Email. The cartoon is called "Email" and the reference reads as follows:

Weebl: Yes, but today also...THE DAY WE GET EMAIL!
Bob: Ooh. Like that strongbad chap?
Weebl: No, not like that at all.

Where should we put this? --Kiwi 22:06, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Already listed as an animation sighting: Animation Sightings#Weebl and Bob. Loafing 02:13, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Other Characters?

I'd be interested in a page dedicated to the other characters who have answered Strong Bad's e-mails (the Cheat and Homestar come to mind), or one that deals exculsively with internet access to all the characters (disconnected phone, ISP, and website pages come to mind first, as well as Strong Sad's Lament/e-mail, King Of Town's page/e-mail, etc.). I'm not sure if this would go under statistics or what. I'd try to start one but all my stuff tends to be deleted so I won't. :-). Does anyone else think this is cool? Or is there already one like that? I love the details on this site... -Cyndi 12 October 2006

Well, there's already a category for it: Category:Character Websites. And exept The Cheat and Homestar i don't think anyone answered an email besides Strong Bah. If anyone else answer an email then maybe there could be a page. Nice idea though. Keep on thinking of ways to improve the wiki! :) — Elcool ^(talk)_(contribs) 09:17, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

There have been a number of references to online activity by the characters (from Bubs hosting his only customer, to Strong Mad's "E-COMMERCE!" carton) but I wonder if that's so unique to merit being noted. In a way, it'd be like having a page discussing all the characters' various jobs - that's info we'd note on a character's page, but not notable enough to collect all onto one. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  09:26, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Coul' be one o' them "Re-Serch" pages. — Elcool ^(talk)_(contribs) 09:41, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Or one of those lists where people aren't sure what should be included and what not. Loafing 09:46, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Question on emailing

Would it make any difference if you sent an email using yahoo. - Austio talk 04:17, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Any difference in what? — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 04:21, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry what I meant to say was do TBC get emails sent from yahoo. - Austio talk 04:26, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Of course. Everybody can get emails from any provider. - The Joe^(Talk) 04:34, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Bugging Me

Okay, sorry guys, but something's been bugging me. Which email is the email where Strong Bad shows that he blocks all of Homestar's emails? It's one of the newer ones.... I just can't remember though. Salty^Talk! 01:27, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

That would be candy product (which I found via the Edgar page). --phlip ^T_C 01:32, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, phlip. Salty^Talk! 01:49, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Blockquotes

I think we should update the blockquotes with the most recent Strong Bad, which has a different emblem shading. X66x66 — 152.3.5.15 (Talk | contribs) 23:28, 15 December 2006 (left unsigned)

What about The Paper?

Why isn't the Paper included in the cast lists? kai lyn 22:49, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

See Talk:The Paper. The Paper is a pseudocharacter. -- Tom 22:52, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh. Okay. But aren't some other pseudocharacters listed, like in army, (Frank Bennedetto), or bedtime story, (The Denzel)? kai lyn 22:59, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

The Paper's listed at the bottom of each. I think it's more convenient that way. --DorianGray

Okay! I'll take that. kai lyn 23:01, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

The font used in sbemails

Does anyone know which font exactly is used in the Strong Bad e-mails? Is it a free one?

Check our Fonts page. --DorianGray

Capitalizing titles

This discussion is a continuation of "Talk:Main Page#Capital Sbemail titles?".

Seeing that TBC capitalize email titles on Podstar Runner and TV Time Toons Menu, should we start doing the same? --Trogga 22:29, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I think Denny's Menu should set the precedent, as they appear there first and longest. So no. --DorianGray 22:30, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

We need to combine all the fractured discussions on this topic so that we don't have to post in X0 places. And I agree with Dorian. — It's dot com 23:54, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

They're capitalised on the DVDs too... Denny's Menu is the only place where they're lowercase... I think the status quo is fine though. --phlip ^T_C 05:40, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

The earliest/most complete listing is the one we should use. Little letters, please. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  10:04, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Scrolling Songs

Is there a list of all the songs Strong Bad has sung while enticing you to use the scroll buttons? It seems like pretty much everything else is covered, so I'd be surprised if they weren't anywhere on the Wiki. Michelle Mabelle 10:49, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm assuming you're asking about the Scroll Button Songs page? If you look at the bottom of that page there's a green template with links to pages about everything you want to know, (but didn't know you could even ask) about SBEmails. Maybe even stuff you don't want to know ;) --Stux 15:06, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Podcast Music Videos

Is this page a good place to note that the Podstar Runner music videos include the Sbemail Podcast clips even if Strong Bad is not in the videos? If so, which part of the page? Bad Bad Guy 06:39, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Watch link on top

I'd added a watch link that held its ground for a while but recently got reverted. I think a watch link there would be useful. Is there any (better?) place for this link on the top of the page? --Stux 15:49, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

I undid that reversion before I read this message — I agreee that there should be such a link at the top of the page, although I'm not sure where the best position is. Trey56 21:16, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

I reworked it some into a custom link plus picture box. — It's dot com 03:41, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

New subcat

There are subcategories in the category Strong Bad Email for the Tandy 400, Compy 386, and Lappy 486. However, there are three emails that were checked on other machines. Should there be a new subcategory for emails on non-Strong Bad-owned computers?— Bassbone (^{TALK CONT}) 11:13, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

These categories are for sbemail eras. The sbemail answered on the Corpy NT6 is from the Lappy era, for example. Loafing 11:15, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but these three emails are also listed as part of the main category. If this is the case, should they be delisted in the main category and left listed int heir respective eras?— Bassbone (^{TALK CONT}) 11:18, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

DNA Evidence

Does the DNA Evidence toon count as a not quite sbemail? Bad Bad Guy 20:12, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

No, because the two criteria we have used for "not quite sbemails" are toons where SB checks an email or toons that are linked to from the email menu. This fits neither criteria. Homestar Coder 20:16, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. Missing Lappy, Sick Day, and Puppet Time meet neither of these criteria, although I can see why they're there. Heck, DNA has scenes from and ties directly into 6 sbemails. I say it belongs. Dr. Clash 20:24, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

No way. SB isn't the protagonist, and there isn't even an email in there. Loafing 20:35, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Um, SB's not in puppet time, either. The only thing is the computer. Dr. Clash 20:48, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

No, Puppet Time was linked to from the email menu when it was first released, and Sick Day involves Strong Bad trying to check an email (we see the email on the screen, and the Paper comes down). Missing Lappy, I'm not sure about myself, but at least it bridges two sbemails directly. If we're going by "ties into references from sbemail" as a criteria for not quite sbemail, then we'd have to include nearly everything on the site (Teen Girl Squad, everything Trogdor, everything with Homsar or Senor Cardgage, etc). Homestar Coder 21:02, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

This is closer to a Strong Bad Email spinoff (like TGS, 2X06 etc.) than a not-quite-sbemail. Heimstern Läufer 21:21, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

To add to what Homestar Coder said, and if memory serves me right, Missing Lappy came at the end of the email cliffhangers and before retirement. It directly adds to that Missing Lappy story arc and is totally within the realm of influencing strong bad emails. As for spin-offs they've taken a life of their own and for the most have become separate from SBE's. --Stux 03:36, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

New Paper, New "Era"?

Just wondering, are we introducing a new "era" only if the computer (= the "emails" menu) changes or would the new The Paper also qualify as one? After all, it's just as much a long-term change as the computers are. --80.135.101.16 14:33, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I dunno. It seems to me that sub-eras or multiple lists of eras, divided by Computers and pristers both seems.... overly complicated. Redundant. Whatever.--CoachG 14:55, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I say it would be better to just stick with the Lappy emails era. Homestar-Winner (talk) 14:57, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, we're yet to see if New Paper will have much of an impact on the emails, or if it'll even stick around (it's only on "trial status" after all)... For now, I say stick with just Tandy/Compy/Lappy, and wait and see what happens. --phlip ^T_C 14:59, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I think that no matter what happens we shouldn't change the eras to a new one. Homestar-Winner (talk) 15:04, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Unless paper 2.0 has some (very large, like becoming a full-blown charecter) unforseen effect on the sbemails beside its usual duties as The Paper, then yeah... no mulitple paper eras.--CoachG 15:06, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Scroll Button Songs

Does anyone know what Stong Bad sing-songs when the e-mails' main menu is brought up? (my English listening is not that great, so the only things I can capture are the first two verses: "look around... I think you'll find..." and I don't really know the rest of it). 201.9.137.250 17:32, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey there. He's saying, "Look around, I think you'll find that these buttons are the scrolling kind." You can read more about this song and his past ones at Scroll Button Songs. Best, Trey56 18:34, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

does anybody know????

hey i was just wondering if anyone new wat the name or # of the strong bad email when homestarrunner awnsers it???

The email you're looking for is anything, though Homestar also messes with the computer in 50 emails. --DorianGray 00:19, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

somthing that has been bugging me

what email does Strong Bad say "so you see comma?" Slipknot6477 14:16, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

rampage. — Has Matt? (talk) 14:41, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

i figured that out like, right when you said it, seriously. Slipknot6477 14:42, 30 July 2007 (UTC) Now i dont know what email when strong bad does spell check and finds 0 problems? anybody know? im pretty shure its a compy. Slipknot6477 16:24, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I think it's autobiography. DEI DAT VM^┌_{datvm center}\^{super contra}_┘ 16:25, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

yep. Slipknot6477 16:27, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

You know, a better place to ask general questions like this is the forum. — It's dot com 16:47, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

What's going on?

I just went to the sbemail page on H*R.com and every SBemail after the chair is missing! does anyone know what happened?

It's fine for me. --DorianGray 19:21, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm looking right at it, and it says that the chair is the most recent sbemail

Not Quite Numbering

"King of Town Email" is numbered 41½. But it came out April 1, 2003, which is inbetween #68, "Caper" (March 31st) and #69, "Personal Favorites" (April 14th). However, "Lookin' at a Thing in a Bag" (the real 68½) came out April 8th.

So, assuming the dates are correct, should they be renumbered, and if so, should we use decimals or the "¼" character? -- ¡ɯooz +, TI:ME, 12 Million August 2007½ (UTC)

Emails that mention Strong Badia

I think there have been too many emails that mention Strong Badia, as in ISP and mini-golf. So far, there have been 11 emails concerning this topic, and seven of those are from the Lappy 486 era. Should we create a Strong Bad Email-related article on this or something? --Charlie Jr. 15:28, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

A category, perhaps, but I don't see what more an article could say. — It's dot com 15:33, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

A bug/glitch inherent to all Lappy-era SBEmails

Just noticed just now, playing around with my tablet, that if you click on the lappy's screen 3 times simultaneously (in the form of a regular click, and a button bound to double-click), the little distortion thing stays there, until a scene transition. It's also possible to make a smaller ring that goes away after a few seconds, by botching the timing. It'd probably be easier to do using a mouse, and mouse software that lets you bind a button to double click. Dunno if it's significant enough to be mentioned?

Oops, forgot signature. Arrkhal 19:39, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't think so. If you have to do this, then that, then this, if you have this, it should not be mentioned. ^{The Goblin!!} 14:05, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Pressing two buttons is hardly what I'd call "this, then that, then this." Plenty of input devices have a button bound to double-click by default, like Wacom Intuos3 pens. And a ton of really old 3-button mice have the middle button bound to double click by default. It's just push two buttons (one bound to click, one bound to double click) at about the same time, and it happens. Very simple. -Arrkhal 19:50, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Arrkhal, keep in mind that, although numerous, programmable pointing devices (and more so tablets) are not universally employed by users. This means that in order to duplicate the "bug" a normal wiki reader would likely have to a) buy a mouse that's programmable b) learn how to program said mouse, c) actually program the action (assuming it's not a factory default) and d) perform the rather tricky-looking action you described. To most users this is more than "just a few clicks". If, however, the bug involved "triple clicking at a certain moment", perhaps it might be a worthwhile consideration. --Stux 20:13, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Infobox for Sbemails?

I propost that to make the sbemails look a little better on the page, and maybe a little more professional, how about an infobox? It would replace all the stuff at the top of the page, except for the description. See the example for mile to the right. ^{The Goblin!!} 14:17, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

mile

Cast (in order of appearance):	Strong Bad, The Cheat, Bubs, Marzipan, Homestar Runner, Coach Z, The Poopsmith
Places:	Computer Room, Strong Bad's Basement, Strong Badia, The Field
Computer:	Compa (cartoon version of the Compy 386)
Date:	Monday, October 13, 2003
Running Time:	2:27
Page Title:	Compy 386!!
DVD:	strongbad_email.exe Disc Three

It looks pretty good, aside from it intruding the transcript section a bit (though I think I can deal with that). If we adopt this idea, we'd have to add the infobox to every sbemail page, and perhaps even to toons and shorts. I like the new look, but would it be worth all the work? — ^Sam_{Fisher (Come in, Lambert.)} 15:23, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

I was wondering about this, when creating it, maybe a bot that automatically does it, or just a wiki-wide project. ^{The Goblin!!} 15:30, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't know enough about bots to say for sure, but it seems plausible for an autoreplace to happen. I like the look of the box in general, since it makes it a little more compact. My main concern is the the spacing, particularly of the "Running Time" field. It wraps in the table. Perhaps for that one line, maybe have it as "valign=bottom"? wbwolf (t | ed) 16:48, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Alternately, shortening the label to "Run time:" solves the alignment issue. wbwolf (t | ed) 16:53, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

This has been tried already (several times, actually). The general consensus was that the infobox didn't work uniformly enough across various resolutions and browsers, and that it didn't offer a substantial improvement over what we already have. — It's dot com 17:27, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

The format looks different between mine and yours, and I can see why people refused to use it. I'm on Safri right now, and it looks fine. Could people on other browers please tell me how it looks on that? ^{The Goblin!!} 18:11, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

The two styles are not that different at all. You picked an email for testing that has a lot of text before Strong Bad actually pulls up the message, and most emails aren't like that. When you put your style with a more typical email, the same problems arise. My version is actually more compact than yours. — It's dot com 18:42, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Emails/computer?

Should we give the # of emails checked next to each computer name? Currently it's: Pom Pilot:1, Corpy NT6: 2 (3 if you count its appearance in 4 branches), Block: 1 The Cheats computers: 1 (2 if you count redesign), Tandy - 39 (Not counting Weird Dream (The Cheat's) and The Bird (Pom Pilot) counting retirement), Compy: 79 (counting retirement), Lappy : 63 (not counting from work). We could put other computers on a smaller section.--Healthy Sam 16:03, 23 October 2007 (UTC)