Talk:Strong Bad Email/Archive 6

From Homestar Runner Wiki

Jump to: navigation, search

Strong Bad Email Talk: Current | Messages 1-20 | Messages 21-33 | Messages 34-50 | Messages 51-75 | Messages 76-100 | Messages 101-120


Contents

[edit] No. of words per e-mail?

Hmm... We should make a page that says how many words there are on the sender's email... Does anyone agree? Sp0ng3b0b 10:06, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure how that would be useful information... Loafing 10:40, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Main Story Arc

Just wondering if we should start compiling a main story arc page thing for the strong bad e-mails. Not all of the e-mails of course are a part of the main story arc for the strong bad e-mails. Though, it could take some time before such a thing is compiled. There are also other arcs as well (I believe), but I wouldn't know what to name them. ColdReactive

...What main story arc? --Belthazar 20:54, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Let's see here... lappy getting stolen, paper dying-ish, virus email, tandy exploding, etc. ColdReactive
Those are all different stories and/or story arcs, not a main one. Loafing 00:14, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
That and if anything, they're more of a running gag than a story arc. --Belthazar 01:45, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Finished

Hey guys, um, I think TBC are finished with sbemails. I have two reasons: A. They said in the email thunder commentary that they were done B. I just tried to email strong bad, and it said that the address was dead, like, they closed the e-mail account. So should we put that on the page? --Crudely Drawn Cupcake 01:13, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

I sent him something and it made it through. BBG 01:25, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Seconded, no weird errors. Are you sure you typed the email address correctly? — DeFender1031*Talk 01:28, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

I just clicked on the paper at the end, and also, what about the whole commentary thing?--Crudely Drawn Cupcake 02:19, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Then it means your browser isn't set up for the link from the paper to work, and i still hold the opinion that the commentary is them messing with us. But it's really pointless to discuss hre anyway, as it has no bearing on the page. If they make more, we'll report it, if they give a sure sign that they're over, we'll report that. Nothing to do in the meantime, and any speculation is pretty much pointless. — DeFender1031*Talk 02:22, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Is it speculation if TGITC say it? I mean TBC not TGITC. --Blow Up the Ocean 01:17, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps? --Blow Up the Ocean

If they actually officially announce that they're over with the Sbemails, then I think it'll certainly be notable to post. However, what they said on the commentary may or may not be true, considering that TBC are rather evil in that they like to mess with our heads all the time. As such, it isn't notable enough to be put on the page. If you guys want to continue speculating, you may want to take it over to the forum, where your comments will be better received. —Guard Duck talk 05:42, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Do you post on the forum? --Blow Up the Ocean 05:47, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

We're now coming up on 6 months since the last sbemail. My opinion is, if the 23rd of March comes and goes with no sbemail, the page should change to the past tense. --Cydonos 20:29, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

No. It is not our decision to officially declare the end of Strong Bad Emails. When TBC themselves announce that they're not going to do anymore emails during a public appearance or interview (the email thunder commentary does NOT count), only then do we change the page to the past tense. – The Chort 20:46, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Why does the commentray not count? What law are you citing? SBEmails are over, except for specials and whatnot. I am calling it. Remember that you read it here. 98.216.8.68 12:01, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

You're calling it? You're hardly the first. The reason we don't give the commentary much weight is that it's clear that they hadn't discussed it ahead of time, and they don't take their own commentaries very seriously. They've been known to say things simply for the shock or humor value. — It's dot com 14:42, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, there's a "Best of sbemails" DVD now, and the "Best of X" is usually only after show or franchise ends, plus the "Sbemailiraization" seems to explain why they won't be doing sbemails anymore! -A logged-out Waferman 71.190.163.41 19:39, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

We know all of this, but until they announce that emails are over in a serious interview or on the website, we're not going to declare anything as being official. — It's dot com 21:11, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

in an easteregg on email thunder that says that the poopsmith will break his silence every 200 sbemails. im not sure, but that could be an evidence of more sbemails! --Safariventureman 19:51, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


Well, thank goodness, but sbemails are back! Abcorn 03:02, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] pop culture satire?

In the intro we list 3 emails that satirize pop culture, japanese cartoon, action figure, and isp. The anime satire's pretty solid, but I dunno how prominent action figures and bandwidth are in current pop culture. Should we consider replacing those examples with ones that satirize even more prominent aspects of pop culture? (I dunno what they'd be, too lazy to look right now.) -132.183.151.130 22:53, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, I certainly can't think of a reason not to do so. --69.19.14.19 15:04, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Typing

I might never understand how Strong Bad types so fast. Especially with boxing gloves on! Fingerface 21:04, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

That's forum talk, kid. MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 21:05, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Gaps

I know that there's gaps noted, and how sometimes its noted on the site, like with the LELLOWTAPE in redesign. But should it be noted about the beginning of hremail 3184 where strong bad finishes off homestar's hremail to start his new email, and saying that he's coming out of e-tirement? its me, crudely drawn cupcake, it can't sign in.--173.71.176.27 20:58, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] sbemail201 > hremail3184

hremal3184 should be taken over 201, as sbemail201 isn't a file. ColdReactive 14:21, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but do we call flashback sbemailahundred or email thunder sbemailtwohundred, or do we call senior prom kotpoptoon? USER:SBE-MAIL CHECKER DAN was here at 10:23 AM
the first two you mentioned are numbers, so those are fine. But I don't think the latter works. ColdReactive 14:28, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Right, so hremail3184 shouldn't work, cuz it's not a sbemail number. If it were a Hremail page with the different eras (which there are only two definetely known) then i'd under stand. But in this case, we should keep it sbemail201 User:SBE CHECK DAN. 10:33
I think you misunderstood me. ColdReactive 14:35, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


[edit] Hremails too!

I think Hremails count as sbemails too, so that means there have been 205 emails so far, not 202. So can we please put hremails on this page? User:MICGAGUH

No, hremails are hremails, sbemails are sbemails, and neither are the same. ('cept for hremail3184, but...) USER: Sbemail Checker Dan
well, technically, long pants and caper were sbemails AND hremails, according to email thunder...

[edit] Premature Era?

Does anyone think it's premature to call this the "Corpy Era?" He's only used it for one email. We don't have, like, Pom Pilot and Tangerine Dreams eras. We don't yet know whether Stro Bro will continue to use this computer as his main email-checking hardware. -132.183.140.54 19:12, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm afraid this kind of question is for the forums. --76.224.216.122 19:15, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
No, this isn't a forum question. Why on Earth would you think so?! Anyway, it's an interesting question. the bird clearly took place between two Tandy emails, as did weird dream. But is this a Lappy-era email? An [insert computer here]-era email? Hard to say at this point. --Jay (Talk) 19:21, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
If Strong Bad checks at least two more emails on the Corpy, I guess we'll call that an era, albeit a very small one. But what if he gets a new computer in the next email? I guess it would then be best to call imaginary a Lappy-era email, since the [insert computer here]-era should probably start with the email in which [insert computer here] is introduced. Omnisweater 19:33, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
I think given the limited info available, what we have is fine for now. If the Corpy turns out to be a one-off interim computer, then I'd guess imaginary would belong to the Lappy era per Omnisweater's reasoning and the Corpy email menu would be treated like the Broken Tandy and Broken Compy Menus. — It's dot com 20:23, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Why on earth would we put them in Lappy era? the Lappy's dead. Why not a "Mixed Computer Era" instead? User:FalconPuncher 6:55 PM
I think it has been pretty well established now that the new computer is the Compy Compé, and while the corpy email might not fit perfectly into either era, I'm of the opinion that a single sbemail can't really constitute an era as defined by the english language and therefore should be merged into the previous/next era anyway. --121.223.243.95 06:23, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
I just changed it to "Transition" instead of "Era" so that we don't have to merge it to either one. I don't think it fits in either era actually. (I guess it's still speculative though) The Knights Who Say Ni 06:29, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
what about tangerine dreams? we should make tandy and broken tandy seperate eras and the email weird dream a transition like imaginary.
I think the reason why we're making a whole different section for the Corpy is because it's a whole different computer that had its own menu, not just a "broken" version of one computer. free 15:17, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
but, the broken tandy had it's own menu also, and strong bad checked weird dream on the cheat's computer for the same reason he checked imaginary on the corpy: because his home computer broke.

I'd like to renew this discussion, mainly because it looks odd to have a one-email-long section. To avoid repeating myself, I'll instead direct you my comments above beginning "If the Corpy turns out to be a one-off interim computer". (Which it did.) — It's dot com 15:10, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

What Dot com suggests makes sense. Originally, I didn't mind the section by itself since the Corpy had its own menu. However, looking back, a menu by itself shouldn't represent an "era", not even a mini-era. That said, I do think we do need some section clearly listing which emails were done on non-era machines. --Stux 20:01, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
It's clearly after the lappy era though. that's why it doesn't fit in the lappy menu; it was never on that menu. and the email came out before strong bad even knew about the compé, so it was clearly before the compé era. do y'all have a problem with the word "transition"? it's used there to mean that it isn't an era at all. The Knights Who Say Ni 20:29, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Okay, that's one of the questions we need to answer. What is an era? Why is it useful to split the emails into eras? (Note that it hasn't always been that way.) Depending on the definition, is it possible to have an email that belongs to no era? Do the aesthetics of not having an email by itself come into play at all? — It's dot com 21:08, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
I think to answer these questions we need to look at why they were created in the first place and its accompanying discussion. They were first made for aesthetic and organizational reasons, letting us better manage the growing list of emails. The nomenclature seemed to be, at first, an afterthought, and only with time has it evolved into the serious business that it is. I think we should, in this case, prioritize organization and aesthetics, and if our lists don't overlap eras, then they should just be marked as such or noted somewhere. --Stux 21:28, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
I think that we should have a section further down the page called "Transition eras". This is were we not only list the Corpy email, but the pom pilot and tangerine dreams email as well. Any one else share this thought? Origonalname 20:29, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Without further qualification (for instance, imaginary being listed as a Lappy or Compé email on the top), I'm afraid I cannot agree with that idea. The emails should remain in order. Besides, the bird is not a transition email (it's arguable that weird dream can be considered one, but not the bird. While we're on the subject, from work, which was also on the Corpy, wasn't a transition either.) --Jay (Talk) 21:28, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
If we have an era for the Corpy, just because it had it's own menu, then why don't we have an era for the broken Tandy? And why don't we have an era for when the Tandy was broken, and the menu was on a piece of paper? that makes about as much sense as making a whole era just for a transition computer. But maybe Jay is right about the bird. But i'm still not convinced that the Corpy era makes sense.

[edit] Flinger's Menu

Starting at this email (imaginary), the sbemails page doesn't say Denny's Menu --Smahksilae 03:45, 14 July 2009 (UTC) yes,and it has a subject bar that look's like lappy, i wonder why nobody noticed it before??? --Lamer99 14:32, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] SBEmails?

Why does everyone think that Arcade Game, Puppet Time, Lookin' at a Thing in a Bag, Superbowl Dealie, and Rotten Eggs are sbemails? Half of them don't even mention the word "email" in them (NO, "SBEMAIL NEXT WEEK" OR "DUE TO THE SUPERBOWL, THE SBEMAIL WILL BE LATE THIS WEEK" DOES NOT COUNT). Just because the Compy appears doesn't mean it's an email. The NQSBEMails should only be ones that mention Strong Bad checking an email (Weclome Back, for example), ones that are a teaser for a milestone (Not The 100th Sbemail, SBEmail 150?!?), or ones that have an actual email and he answers it (SBCG4AP and Sick Day). -USER: SBE-MAIL CHECKER DAN 9:58 AM, July 23rd, 2009

Yes, but those cartoons are different from regular "Shorts" in the way that they are made to show that there will be a new Sbemail soon. For example, you don't see a notice after most of the regular cartoons saying "Holiday Toon next week" or something close to that. Because they can't be grouped like the normal cartoons, they're grouped as NQSbemails. DevonM(talk·cont-ribs) 15:25, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Dan: That's not what our definition of Not Quite Strong Bad Emails is (emphasis on the "Not Quite"). The only thing that matters is that each of these shorts "were originally associated in one way or another with the Strong Bad Emails". That's it. Sure, some of them fill in gaps between emails while others were just notes stuck on the Compy's screen, but they all meet the minimum criterion. — It's dot com 16:11, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Oh, well, could we at least put Homestar Ruiner and StrongBadia the Free on there? They opened up with an email, and all five episodes had minor, optional, emails. SBE CHEK DAN (don't feel like righting the whole thing)
Does Compy Catalog count as a Not Quite Strong Bad Email? The Knights Who Say Ni 06:33, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Yes. --Stux 06:58, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] random.bat

Has anyone noticed that there is no random button?

Yes. It's noted in the remarks section. free 19:34, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

I noticed it too, but now it's back as go rando!. Abcorn 03:06, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Loading... and Loading... and Loading...

Today, the sbemail menu keeps on loading and loading and loading. If you use the greasemonkey script to fast forward past the loading screen, you'll notice there are no emails on the random.bat thing. Also, doing this may cause Firefox to hang and give an error. ColdReactive 13:43, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Works for me. — It's dot com 21:36, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
And me. free 22:40, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
That's because it was fixed when you replied. Sorry I didn't take a screenshot. ColdReactive 13:14, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
All that happened was that rando.xml was unavailable for whatever reason. You can duplicate the effect by saving the menu file and opening it locally. — It's dot com 13:31, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Corpy

Are we going to leave the corpy menu on there? It was only one email. TheThin 01:55, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes. — DeFender1031*Talk 02:05, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Oh, good, I-- did you say yes? Why, What's The Point we might as well put from work in there, and you forgot this. Meaty85203 Talk To Me... Serously 05:00, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
It did have its own unique menu with unique text, though. That text has to go somewhere! --DorianGray 05:02, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure we only do that for SBEmail MENUS user:sbe-mail checker dan
It should really go, I mean its not the first time there was a special menu, what about the time they used a notepad for the menu, and when the compy blew up, its not really an era, just a extra.[guest]
My thoughts exactly, fellow guest. -Bloohoo (guest)
Key difference: A new email was released for this menu. The broken Compy and Tandy menus stood alone without updates. --DorianGray 23:22, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Also, where would we put imaginary if we didn't have a Corpy section? It took place after the Lappy exploded, but before Strong Bad even knew what the Compé was, so it's really part of neither era. --Jay (Talk) 23:28, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Why not put it in the Lappy era? -Bloohoo
I think it should stay... after all, the Lappy was dead, and he didn't have the Compe yet, plus it had its own sbemail menu, so it really is a transition/mini-era, regardless of it having only one email. Abcorn 03:09, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey, remember, it's the "Lappy Era", from work wad released during the time strongbad was using the lappy, so its in the Lappy era, imaginary is only on the Corpy section 'cos he wasn't using any computer 'at the time. A Website 18:52, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
I think it should be in the Corpy, AND the Lappy era, no matter if "From Work" isn't in the Corpy "era". It's called..... COMPROMISE! Jibblejibblejibble 01:19, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] The Widescreen Dilemma

The lappy screen measures about 5:8 ratio. The Compe (using linux, no ALT Shortcuts) screen measures about 14:25 ratio. The compe is obviously widescreen, but, I believe the lappy is clearly not widescreen. Meaning that if the compe is actually used, it will be the first computer for strong bad that is widescreen. Should this be noted here or on the compe page? ColdReactive 00:59, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Probably the Compe (no numpad) page, but let's wait until (if?) he uses it if we do mention it. free 01:01, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] compe menu (i forget the alt shortcut)

is there a way to remove that black border around the green?

[edit] Compe styled era box?

I just made this, how's it look? ColdReactive 18:17, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Great, you just might want to lessen the width of the border, and check it with the CSS of the Lappy style:
#bodyContent blockquote.email, #article blockquote.email, #mw_contentholder blockquote.email {
    border: 4px solid #cc9;
    background: #000;
    background-image: url(/skins/common/images/emailbackground.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: bottom right;
    color: #fff;
    font-weight: bold;
    padding: 1em;
    font-family: courier new, monospace;
    width: 500px;
 }

The Strong Bad head width could be changed a bit. Can't really take a look at the code right now, but make sure you're using <blockquote>. You may want to make another version that looks like the email client as well, since we will probably use that one and the one you've already made. Got to get back to the transcript. Soiled Bargains (talk|ctrb) 18:28, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm not using a block quote (I AM using a block quote around the autocolumn though as per normal), I'm using a custom DIV for the strong bad head because blockquotes won't fit nicely above/inside the grass area. I edited it more to tone down on that big black border. I added a more transparent PNG of SB's head, and I explained about the minimum size of the era box. I have now also added a transcript box for the compe. Please take a look at it as well. ColdReactive 18:34, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
The transcript version is nice! I would change the <div> that holds the message into a <span>, with a CSS display:block; property and a padding:4px; property, remove the nesting, and it's good to go. The background:transparent; properties should be rid of as they are of no use. The fact that we're using divs to substitute for the double-line bottom border doesn't feel right with me, but right now I can't think of anything better. Great job! Soiled Bargains (talk|ctrb) 02:12, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm wondering why the grass doesn't scroll with the page, instead acting like a window to a grassy field that gets moved around it. — DeFender1031*Talk 02:15, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Soiled Bargains thanks for the span thing. Defender that's because the image has a background attachment of fixed, it will scroll showing various parts of the grass picture when scrolling. You guys can try tweaking these boxes to your liking and see what's best, I would much like to see the fruits of my imagination/labor used on sbemails. ColdReactive 02:32, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
ColdReactive, is there some way you could use the original grass desktop image instead of the one you have now? I'd get it for you if I had a better Flash decompiler. Omnisweater 16:06, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Any good flash decompilers for linux? Because that's what I use. Flash CS3 doesn't work in wine either, otherwise I'd try it. Because I can't ask on the Ubuntu Forums. Nevermind, I found one: http://www.swftools.org ColdReactive 16:22, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
I love it, but get a background that and can be repeated. That way, the size wouldn't matter.--Crudely Drawn Cupcake 22:09, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Unfortunately, the background used on the Compe doesn't repeat, and we're not gonna pick some other background because that would defeat the purpose. — DeFender1031*Talk 22:11, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I've softened the image up. Is it good enough to use? Or do you want to try to make it look better more defender? ColdReactive 22:43, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Wow, that looks good enough to eat! Or at least...; use as a background! Good jorb! — DeFender1031*Talk 22:44, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, that looks awesome! The other Compé template (the one used when he reads emails) looks great too. Omnisweater 23:23, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
(time to go back down *cough*) Thanks you guys, especially for the help so far. ColdReactive 23:24, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
The background looks good, but it isn't wide enough. It cuts off on my screen. — It's dot com 15:03, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't this block quote have the same border as the Tandy, Compy, and Lappy block quotes? It also is a different size in length than the previous ones. The Corpy block quote should be changed to have the same border and size also. Homestar-Winner (talk) 15:25, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
You guys can continue to experiment if you want. But be advise that making the background bigger may cause pixelation again, making you blur it more, making the grass less visible for lower resolutions. ColdReactive 19:57, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh my goodness, they changed the background of the email menu! Shall I try to attempt to get the new background? Disregard this. The new background is all shapes (and not a JPG/PNG/etc.), and I'm having a real, real hard time outputting them. ColdReactive 14:02, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Let's see if the green background is reused in any sbemails first. If it turns out to have been a one-time thing, then I guess you (or somebody) should change it. By the way, do you happen to still have the .swf of the original Compé menu? I hope someone does, because it would be nice to have a mirror of that. Omnisweater 14:25, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Font

When you use the randomizer on the compé menu (right click and play on the flash file, wait for an atrociously long time a few seconds) the one it selects is in the lappy's font. where does this remark belong? The Knights Who Say Ni 03:20, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Desktop

I want to make a page with all the desktop wallpapers on the compe. But I don't have permition to upload pictures...help plz. ~ Nihaho13

I've done some of this for you already. A note to people wanting to upload wallpapers/desktop screens: Please name your uploaded images in accordance to what it looks like or features. Someday we might upload the actual wallpaper raw (Like I did with the compy catalog, grass and Where's an Egg II wallpapers.) Raw Wallpapers should take precedence over screenshots of them. JPG Wallpapers will come and go as time goes on. Wallpapers that are actually FLASH OBJECTS (Such as the Compy Catalog wallpaper) Will take longer. Also, make sure to add the wallpapers/desktops to the Compé page. ColdReactive 17:02, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] 193½B or 100½? Or update the description?

When we see The Homestar Runner gets Something Stuck in his Craw, it comes between sbemail 193 and 194, right? However, at the end of sbemail 100, Strong Bad is about to read to Homestar the exact same story/flashback. Should we change it from 193½B to 100½? I'm not so sure about this, but, the description is The reading of the story takes place after what appears to be a Strong Bad Email. Should this be updated to The reading of the story takes place after Strong Bad Email 100, or The reading of the story takes place after what appears to be a Strong Bad Email, probably Strong Bad Email 100 (flashback)? This is also supported because in flashback and this cartoon, the floppy disk container reads the same.
--Abcorn 03:18, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

If you zoom in on the computer, you can clearly see that this email isn't the same one that is in flashback. Therefore, it doesn't take place immediately after the hundredth email. Just b/c strong bad was going to read it then doesn't necessarily mean that's when this took place. It's also definitely possible that Strong Bad could have had the same disk at the front of the container on two separate occasions. I think it's fine where it is, listed as between 193 and 194, since that's where it came out. The Knights Who Say Ni 01:30, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
But he DOES have the Compy, so it has to take place before sbemail118 SBE-mail Checker Dan 02:13, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
The numbering scheme is primarily to show when a toon is released, not when it might appear in the continuity. — It's dot com 02:55, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Personal tools