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[edit] Pretend Reference??

Strong Bad ordering a "Chateau Pretend" may be a reference to François-René de Chateaubriand, a French author/political figure from the 18-19th century. Strong bad uses the name in relation to food, and Chateaubriand was known for involvement in culinary arts.

I think you're making the reference unnecessarily complicated. The way I see it, Chateau Pretend is a pretend wine. Kahteh 11:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Lies. All lies. Clearly I'm the only one who knows how it all went down. Cast your mind back to car, when Homestar gave a shout-out to Lemon Pretend. Whilst we can safely assume that within the fictional universe of Free Country, USA, Lemon Pretend is a type of pie, a search on Google turns back no recipies or even references to the existence of a Lemon Pretend pie (outside of the Homestar Runner reference, of course). It is through this method that I have come to the conclusion that the reference here is not a Real-World one, but one of the Inside demographic, and, as such, refers to the Strong Bad Email that usually goes by the name of "car". Thank you for your time. --Ppk01 12:27, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Um... I'm not all that convinced that having the word 'Pretend' in a foodstuff's name really qualifies it as an inside reference. Unless you can find a way of working Great Uncle Pawdabber's Pre-Tend Ice Cream Showdown into the reference somehow. Kahteh 16:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Considering the three instances of the word "Pretend" in three separate cartoons, this should be considered an Inside Joke and a page should be made for it. After all, we've made pages for less. --Ppk01 18:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
It doesn't have to be a reference to be funny. Pawdabber's ice cream is pretend because it's really just sour cream and The Cheat fur. Chateau Pretend is pretend because the only real part of the restaurant is a cardboard box. There's nothing notable about Strong Bad using a regular English word to mean the same thing on two occasions. PolarBoy 19:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Most likely a reference to Château Latour, considering he orders a bottle of it.
Agreed. Chateaubriand is a real stretch. JudahNielsen 22:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
My first thought was that the wine was a tad pretendous. AbdiViklas 23:43, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Just thought I'd mention, despite what is stated in the article, prétende IS actually a word in French - it is the subjunctive form of the verb prétendre.

But it's being used here as an adjective, which isn't correct, right? Here's what our resident native French speaker has to say about it... Trey56 13:35, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, it is clearly incorrect french. It is pseudo-french, which is part of the joke. But the article states that it isn't a word in french, which is also incorrect. I am also a native french speaker, by the way.

[edit] Name that Tune

Gah... The tune the whale plays is extraordinarily familiar. I just can't place it, for the life of me. It's very frustrating. --DorianGray 10:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

It sounds really familar to me to. It's really annoying. Shwoo 10:19, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
It reminds me a LOT of the music from one of the towns in Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door. --TotalSpaceshipGirl3 10:36, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
I think I've got it! It's the first few notes of the music that plays in Koopa Village in the original Paper Mario! Nailed it! Compare the two. --TotalSpaceshipGirl3 10:50, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Those two don't sound that similar to me... --phlip TC 11:04, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
The key may be a bit off. The tune seems similar to me, though. I very may well be tone-deaf. --TotalSpaceshipGirl3 11:05, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Here's another idea that was proposed. Trey56 13:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

The tune that the drive-thru whale plays appears to be the first few notes from the theme song for the television show Night Court.

After listening to the theme from Night Court, I think they're similar, but different. Trey56 13:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it's from a game, possibly one on this site? (doubt it) - Quolnok 13:26, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Call me weird, but to me it sounds somewhat similar to the title screen themes in the Pokemon games. -Sumgirl

I think it's the beat that makes it familiar, rather than the tune. The beat is more or less the same as the Everybody Knows It song. Nsayer 17:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

TSSG3: When you try to match the two up, even when you're nice to the beats, you don't get much of a hit. ¤ The Dang, Pom Pom, you see that? That's a nice golbol. Talk to me. 20:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Isn't it the chorus from the Gorillaz track "Dirty Harry"?

I looked it up and it matches pretty well. Retromaniac 22:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
No, it's not. I just listened to it. -- SyrenaV 01:20, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

It's not Paper Mario, I have that game, or Night Court (I looked it up on YouTube). Retromaniac 22:22, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't know, I'm pretty convinced by Night Court. The groove is different, but the melodic contour is the same. Both songs start on Bb, move through a major chord (w/ ornamentation) to rest briefly on F, peak on Ab, and descend by way of G and F. The crappy-speaker song is more or less what you'd get if you took Night Court, changed the tempo, set it to a different beat, and changed some of the little in-between notes. —AbdiViklas

For the musically challenged: Image:Drive-Thru Tune.png. The real tune from the toon, the Koopa Village tune that TSSG3 posted, Night Court pulled from some MIDI I found on the net, and Dirty Harry, from me, since I own that one... all shifted to start on C, so they're easier to compare. They're don't really seem all that similar to me... --phlip TC 00:24, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

The 2nd half of the song is identical for all intents and purposes to night court and the first half is 'similar' -JamesDean 03:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

It sounds a little Daytime TV to me, and it's said right after the word Password...does anyone know what the theme to that gameshow was? I've been trying to YouTube it for a few minutes...actually something in the background could have been it. I'll keep searching. There's 4 themes, I can Just a thought, probably nothing. ~ Shadix

The tune reminds me a bit of the music from the first level of the NES game Mappy Land.. but is slightly different. --AshyRaccoon 05:54, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Which in turn was a lyricless version of "This little light of mine". The whales song does sound similar.XDSesshoumaru CianXD

The instrument sounds extremely similar to keyboard-headed-Strong Bad's keyboard, and considering its association with the Drive-thru Whale, it might make sense, seeing as it's very similar to what one may expect from Sweet Cuppin' Cakes. -- 16:21, 20 March 2007 (UTC).

It sounds like a sped up version of the 'living in the gutter with grandma' song to me. 00:12, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Noone's gotten this yet? Maybe you guys need to buy more playsets and toys!™ (hint, hint) — (Talk | contribs) 01:04, 21 March 2007 (UTC) (left unsigned)

If you're implying that it's the Cheat Commandos theme, then: no. It's not even remotely similar. It's nothing like the SBLOUNSKCHED! jingle, either... --phlip TC 01:16, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I figured it was the Night Court theme mainly because it works about the same way as Homestar's beanie: it plays the music when the thingie on top is in motion. Octan 05:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

The only thing this discussion is showing is that this probably isn't based off of any actual song at all. I've heard all of the above-mentioned tunes, and I seriously doubt it's any of them. In my opinion, it was just a small jingle and nothing more. 0rion 19:33, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Another thing it's kinda similar to but not really: the breakdancing rodent in isp. --phlip TC 22:38, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately for me, the tune reminds me of a less crappy version of Robbie Williams' "Lovelight". I doubt that TBC would have such terrible taste in music. – The Chort 20:03, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I think I have an idea. This song sounded familiar to me when I heard it, and I have a keyboard that TBC evidently have, as evidenced by the fact that the jingle bells song in the decemberween sweet cuppin cakes was a demo on my keyboard. Maybe it's a demo song from some keyboard. TBC have a tendency to use keyboard demos often. I dunno, I'm gonna dig around for that keyboard tomorrow, I would tonight but the kids are asleep. James 03:33, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I think it kinda sounds like part of Space Captainface's theme song.

By Lord, I think I have it! It's just a simple tune The Brothers Chaps made. Case closed!

I realize this is an Old topic, but I think it's from an old advert/comercial, I'll get back to you on which one, but I think it was a fast food place, which would make a LOT of sense. MJN SEIFER 15:54, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry to dredge this up, but I just bought Donkey Kong Country on the Wii's Virtual Console, and the bonus level song's opening notes sound very similar to the first few notes of the whale's song. --MrsCommanderson 01:51, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Distorted speaker

The lines Strong Bad hears as "Sever your leg", I hear that the speaker is saying "Serve to your right", or something similar... and, like Shwoo, I hear "seventh window". The others I hear the same as SB, but I wouldn't be surprised if I'm mishearing any or all of these... what do you think? --phlip TC 10:20, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I distinctly heard "seventh window" too, even before there was a transcript. I stand with "sever your leg", though. --DorianGray 10:21, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
I can't really hear "serve to your right". There's no t sound. Shwoo 10:25, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
It's confirmed in the New Stuff section. The description is "Sever your leg, please, sir." --TotalSpaceshipGirl3 11:13, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Not really, the toon description there could be quoting SB, it was one of the funny lines in the toon after all... Oh well, {waits patiently for QotW}. --phlip TC 11:20, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I heard "serve to your right" the first time I watched it, but after listening it to a few more times, I hear "sever your leg". "Seventh window" is definetely correct. - Super Sam 13:35, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

In terms of the window, I almost hear "south window". Retromaniac 15:55, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
I hear "sever your leg" and that's all I hear. DeFender1031 01:13, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

It tells the lobster to sever its leg, or whatever it really said, and the lobster severed its leg...

I hear "steve turn around to the seventh window" I absolutely hear "steve turn around to the seventh window" as well -JamesDean 03:20, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

The distorted speaker also reminded me of the ones from what I want. Retromaniac 22:32, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

It totally is! Those nobots are also referred to as having "drive-thru stereo." CoveredinSuudzu 16:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I hear "the lake head". In all seriousness, I think TBC actually said "sever your leg" because they don't want people thinking that it's anything else.--Bobo the King 09:29, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

It is "Sever your leg" Check the newist QotW ;) - Wario64

Although it is saying "Sever your leg", it sounds like "Swerve to your left" if you listen to it enough. — (Talk | contribs) 01:08, 30 July 2007 (UTC) (left unsigned)

I'm pretty sure it says "Sever your leg," because why else would the space lobster take his claw off at the end? --Billiken 21:01, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jeeves

Reginald Jeeves is a character created by P.G. Wodehouse who appears in a number of short stories and novels. In the literature, Jeeves works as the valet of Bertie Wooster. Due to the popularity of the series, the name Jeeves is frequently used in popular culture to refer to chauffeurs, butlers, and waiters. Spiderbaby 14:12, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

TTATOT. Jeeves is a common servant name, and this almost certainly doesn't reference any specific one. 0rion 06:35, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
What in blazes is a "common servant name"? Household staff use their own names; they aren't given names by their employers. Wodehouse's Jeeves is the prototype upon which all later Jeeves were based. As Spiderbaby said, Wodehouse was (and still is) very popular. Do you also say that referring to a humbug cheapskate as a Scrooge is TTATOT? --H-ko 21:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Wodehouse invented Jeeves, therefore, any reference to Jeeves is a reference to Wodehouse, or at the very least a reference to the trend begun by Wodehouse--Sir Vimes 22:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
There is no Jeeves but the Wodehouse Jeeves<ref></ref>. "Ask Jeeves", the old brand of, readily admits this too. <ref></ref> Jeeves was invented and popularized by Wodehouse over a 60 year period (1917 to 1974), and looking up Jeeves on Google gives really only two referents -- Wodehouse and Ask Jeeves. So it's neither this, that, nor the other thing. It's just one thing.
--Steve Rapaport, wikipedia
You do realise that this has already been STUFFED and accepted, right? See below. And I'm glad to see that you deleted your swear. Thanks for that. Loafing 22:52, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Whale speaker

What fast food place has a whale for its speaker? Retromaniac 15:48, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Invisible ones? --Jay (Talk) 16:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I think the trend of having the order speaker/mic live inside of a mascot started with Jack-in-the-box, which used to have the speaker/mic inside a clown's mouth. Nsayer 18:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Blubb-O's, if you check the "Fast Forward" section. --Billiken 21:03, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] That was...odd.

I don't really see what this short was about... --Das654 16:11, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

That was my initial reaction too. You can talk more about it at the forum instead of here, please. There's a nice link to the thread at the bottom of Drive-Thru. -Brightstar Shiner 16:13, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
As I propose below, I think its about something that was on cable on March 18th. PolarBoy 19:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Echo

  • Is the echo becoming a running gag? That is, an echo where there wouldn't normally be one? Retromaniac 16:18, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
    • Only other instance I could find by searching the wiki for "echo" was in 4 branches. But it is a running gag in Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead. PolarBoy 19:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
      • It's an echo. Couldn't possibly be a running gag unless the website was called "Echo-Star". An echo where there's no thing for the sound waves to be is a common animation technique used in many shows. No running gag. user.gif user.gifDevonM(talk·cont-ribs)

[edit] Pro-awesome

I hear "Bro-awesome". I don't know what that means, but I don't hear a "P" sound. --Jay (Talk) 16:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

And, while on the subject, I don't hear "Steer your car around" either, though in that case I'm kinda unsure what I'm hearing. I think part of it is "turn around" though. --Jay (Talk) 16:43, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Bro-awesome, but I hear "Stee your car around" which just sounds like the whale didn't pronounce the R very clearly, and I can't imagine what else that would be. --SamuraiMoose
Yup, I definitely hear bro. Dr. Clash 20:25, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Yeah. I hear 'bro-awesome', no question about it. Yadaman 13:24, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I vote 'bro' as well--Samwise 23:03, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Another bro guy, here. I agree completely. 0rion 21:29, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
But "pro-awesome" makes more sense, if you ask me. --Trogga 01:33, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Since when has H*R made sense? Wouldn't "Strong Sad/Mad, there's ketchup on the computer!" Make more sense than "Aunt Ruthie! Aunt Ruthie! There's ketchup on the computer!", seeing as there's no one named Aunt Ruthie? *cough* anyway, put your ear up to the speaker, and it's "Bro". I thought it meant something like showing how SB and Teh C are bros, or something. Dr. Clash 01:39, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm thinking that SB is going to say broken (in reference to video- and collectable card-game slang meaning ridiculously overpowered) and says awesome midway through instead. igot8001 21:18, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
I hear bro-. Neox

[edit] a blue one?

Strong Bad says "how 'bout a blue one for my little friend"; does this seem to anyone else like a possible reference to Strong Sad's "the blue ones"? 18:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I thought about that too, but I think it's a coincidence — there's nothing else to tie the two together. Trey56 18:33, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
It's a fluke, there's no connection.-- DongleGoblin 21:02, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
It did occur to me as well. --Jay (Talk) 21:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
I thought it was a reference to Lookin at a Thing in a Bag where everyone drink colored ones. But The Cheat drink a red one and bubs the blue one. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 05:12, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I think it is, personally. - Volbeat A The Cheat 07:23, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Y'know what I think? This is totally not a ref, but when I heard that, for some reason I thought it was a nod to The Matrix! You know, with the whole, red pill/blue pill thing. WeirdAl (talk · 19:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

That might have been plausible had the alternative been red instead of brown, but even then it would have been a major stretch. Personally, I don't think it's either of these. 0rion 21:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Obviously none of you have ever worn blue boxer shorts underneath your trousers, or you would know this is clearly not a reference.
How are those two statements connected? I'm confused. Shwoo 07:53, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Wha 'bout when Stron Bab sez "They're all out of blue ones"? Are you sure that's not a Bug In Mouth Disease reference? --IT'S A LION! 18:08, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

There's no consensus here to put this on the page, but here's the fact as it read when it was removed from the article. Trey56 13:17, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

The fact that The Cheat wants a "blue one" crappy toy could be a throw-back to Bug In Mouth Disease in which Strong Sad finds his underwear, ie: The Blue Ones

It sounds to me like a simultaneous reference to the Blue Ones and Cold Ones. --IT'S A LION! 21:41, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rocket Sound

Hey, the sound for The Compressor sounds a lot like Bubs's pumpkin from the Carve-nival.

Yeah, I suppose it does. 0rion 21:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Actual reference to what was on TV last night?

My little brother informs me that he saw something on cable yesterday concerning the potential for real lobsters on Europa. I want to put together a more solid reference than "my little brother told me"--for instance the name of the show and even better, the episode. Anybody know a good way to find out what was on TV last night? Or maybe someone saw the show and can remember what it was called? PolarBoy 19:01, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I think it was Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy, the episode "Guess WHAT'S Coming to Dinner?" Chaos!

  • If you saw it on tv the night before it isn't a reference to that. It could be some other news concerns from a while ago, but that is a big part of this short. It isn't a little thing they could add in last-minute.

Scientists have considered the possibility of marine life-forms on Europa for some time. Wikipedia article --IT'S A LION! 21:45, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fun with Facts

"Sperm whales are not known to eat lobsters, Europa-pean or otherwise." To this I'd like to add "Drive through speakers are not known to eat anything, or have a hidden Europan-lobster-powered rocket, or stand out in the middle of a field where no restaurant has ever been or ever will be. PolarBoy 19:21, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree. That "fun fact" isn't much fun at all. It was probably just some weird, bizarre ending TBC came up with. It had nothing to do with the mascot being a whale.-- Nevadie 19:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Whoever first wrote this article must have been desperate for "fun" facts and "trivia", because some of them seem pretty weak.-- DongleGoblin 21:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, what the crap was that about? *mumble*... Visorbot 386 00:49, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
It seems to me just a way to get rid of the whale and not have to show it in the field in any future toons.--Samwise 23:04, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm starting to wonder just why it was even there to begin with...but I do love how many proposed Fun Facts are under fire right now. There isn't a whole lot you can really say about this thing. -- SyrenaV 17:24, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Like I said, I think TBC were just fooling around with us. :) — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 22:37, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Might as well add this fun fact: "This Short is considered by many to be really weird." --IT'S A LION! 21:47, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reference?

Just looking at the article of the day, I think the table in the easter egg is the top of the jail. Anyone else? - Wario64

Looks like the same box to me. (Some kind of scientist 23:47, 19 March 2007 (UTC))
The shading is different in a few spots, it doesn't have "JAIL" or "A BOX" or the bars, but is clearly based on that box. If you view the .swf file in something like media player classic, or directly in the browser, and resize the window so you can see further below on the box.. and flip it horizontally.. it does share features. Overall shape, and most shading. --AshyRaccoon 02:52, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
To me, the top looks like from one of those eStrong Vague Online Investments from looking old. Yeah? No? Maybe so? --Ang the Ephemeral 11:45, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia?

Do we really need the "300 ft. equals 100 yd...." under the trivia section? It's not really needed, and it's got nothing to do with anything. Also, did anyone else think that this was a little more... "outlandish" than usual?-- DongleGoblin 20:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

No, I think that part could be left out. The kilometers could be left in, as there are some Wiki Users from "across the pond."-- Nevadie 02:56, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
And just north of you. <.< --TotalSpaceshipGirl3
Yeah, them too.-- Nevadie 19:55, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Extra Sauce?

When Strong Bad orders, he asks for extra sauce. In Strongest Man in the World, Homestar tells Pom-Pom to "Pour on that extra sauce" when they're training. Possible inside reference?

I don't think so. Some kind of scientist 22:11, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure this is a coincidence, especially because a lot of "specials" include some kind of sauce. It's a common thing to order extra sauce. Plus, I'm pretty sure he said "extra-size," mispronouncing exercise. -- Nevadie 02:58, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Actually, I guess the transcript does say "extra sauce." But I still think it's a total coincidence. -- Nevadie 03:06, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Weird Al Reference?

I saw that Weird Als music video for "Trapped In The Drive-Thru" was released on Myspace Video yesterday. Reference?

First of all, SIGN YOUR NAME!!!! And, second, yeah, when I saw the title, I thought, "Hey, is this a ref to "TitDT?" It MIGHT be a reference, just MIGHT. I do think it's too simalar sounding to be a coincidence...I mean, TWO videos about a drive-thru in, like, 1 1/2 days??!?!?! What do all a y'all think??? -WeirdAl (talk · 00:05, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
First of all, NO SHOUTING!!!! :-p Well, considering that it takes TBC about a day and a night to animate a sbemail (I think they said that in an interview), and that this toon is much shorter than recent sbemails, it's definitely possible. But it would have required them to see the video as soon as it was released, drop the toon/sbemail they were working on, come up with an idea in no time and start working on the animation immediately. And for all that effort, there is no clear reference to the Weird Al video in this toon (as far as I can see). So yes, it's possible, but highly unlikely. Definitely a stretch. Loafing 03:15, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
A stretch, but exactly what I my brother and I thought when we saw the title of the toon, knowing the Weird Al video was out the same day. :) --MrsCommanderson 20:28, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Loafing: In a normal case, I'd agree with you. But look closely at the animation. It looks rushed, like it was made in a hurry. (i.e. The Cheat's eyes) Didn't you notice? ¤ The Dang, Pom Pom, you see that? That's a nice golbol. Talk to me. 21:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'll put it up as a remark. If anyone objects, just delete it. WeirdAl (talk · 19:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Speed to Europa

For the rocket to have traveled the minimum distance of 628,089,000 kilometers (390,276,411 miles, 4.2AU) to Europa and back in the 1:30 between the rocket's launch and its landing, it must have traveled at an average speed exceeding 23 times the speed of light.

I moved this here from the article, since we have several precedents of moving calculations to the talk page. (See Talk:A Folky Tale → Physics for an example.) — It's dot com 03:08, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

For reference, I would like to note that the calculation is more than possible, as there are is no "lost time" between the rocket's launch and landing (ie. no cuts where time would have elapsed.) And I think it's worth noting on the main page. --Jay (Talk) 05:20, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I note that this calculation doesn't take the Theory of Relativity into account. If it did, the rocket would return a long time before it left. — Meneth 14:23, 20 March 2007 (UTC) Moron. The theory of special relativity says that nothing, absolutely nothing, can travel faster than the speed of light (or else imaginary numbers get introduced into the equations).

I posted a rough calculation of the speed, but it looks like someone else got higher math involved before me. My intent for my posting was to display the absurdity of an air compressed rocket getting to Europa and back in the 2:19 running time of the e-mail. I know what the Theory of Relativity says about light speed and the dilation of time, I just thought it would be funny to show how much the citizens of Free Country USA distort natural laws on a daily basis.--Jeff J. W.(Talk·Contribs)hr.png 15:29, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Going too far?

Ok, is this just strange? Europa and Lobster connection, not the arctic connection.

Hmm. I'm not sure how this is connected, but it's a startling coincidence (if it is coincidence at all). --IT'S A LION! 21:50, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Metaverse Ponderances

Is it just me, or is the Homestar Runner universe in general getting more and more incoherent, surreal and disorganised? I've noticed a trend in recent months towards the characters becoming more and more delusional, and the situations they find themselves in less and less comprehensible. Is something akin to the virus outbreak (albeit slower and on a less noticable level) happening again? -- Andreus 18:48, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

It could be a lead up to the inkjet era, and how Strong Bad's printer will break, seemingly beginning with Strong Bad Email 173. —Supuhstar* Image:Supuhstar(SupuhSmall).gif
Well, TBC haven't always been entirely truthful with their references. personal favorites (sbemail #69) comes to mind. none of those emails ever existed. --SHH 23:00, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Actually, the first two emails in personal favorites did in fact take place. 0rion 00:03, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
That was Strong Bad personally "dwelling" on past experiences. This is a prediction done by a non-Strong Bad sourse that seems to be sober, or at least moreso than Strong Bad is or says he is by all his references to cold ones. —Supuhstar* Image:Supuhstar(SupuhSmall).gif
Also, don't forget dangeresque 3. TBC will probably just joke about it if people are really expecting something. I doubt that the Paper would get retired, though.--CertifiedArborist 20:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why the first rocket launch fizzled

I tried to add this to the reference, but it was reverted.

The reason the rocket performed so poorly when Strong Bad first attempted to launch (without the compressOR) it was that he forgot to fill it half full of water. For those familiar with the toy water rockets in question, they behaved exactly that way without the water in them. Seems like everything I contribute gets immediately reverted. Sort of makes it not worth the attempt. Nsayer 21:30, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Nsayer, I am the one who reverted it because, A: if you look through the redd transparent plastic, you can see water bubbling, and B: it's still not notable. As for your edits being reverted, we always appreciate well-intended contributions, even if they do have to be removed. Please do not get discouraged. Most of my early edits were reverted also. You will get better with time. I will admit I tend to be a bit more conservative on facts than some others, and for that I am sympathetic. DeFender1031 21:36, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I looked really close and didn't see any water bubbling, and lacking water makes these rockets do *exactly* what Strong Bad's did. As for notability, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Nsayer 22:02, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I saw bubbles at the top of the rocket while SB's pumping it. (*shrugs*) --AshyRaccoon 01:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I definitely see some bubbling while he's pumping. (Some kind of scientist 13:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC))
Even so (I must still be missing them), no water shoots out of the rocket when it "lifts off". Nsayer 15:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I viewed the swf file, zoomed in, to see the bubbles. But I've definitely no arguments with that: I'd expect water to be jetting out the bottom of the rocket. --AshyRaccoon 02:16, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
I've gotta side with Nsayer here; I definately don't see any bubbles. —Supuhstar* Image:Supuhstar(SupuhSmall).gif
Definitely bubbles. Watch again when he pumps, change the html to swf for a better view CrankyPants
Watch the red tip of the rocket when Strongbad counts down. If you look closely, bubbles appear inbetween "two" and "one." --Billiken 21:15, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Steve Drive Around...

Okay, when the whale says what is currently transcribed as "Steve, drive around to the seventh window", I'm actually hearing "Stay dry around to the seventh window". Anyone else hearing that?

The possibilities that I've seen so far (that I'm aware of - feel free to add) are:

  • "Please drive around to the seventh window"
  • "Steve, drive around to the seventh window"
  • "Stay dry around to the seventh window"
  • "Steer your car around to the seventh window"

Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 21:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I just listened to this part of the toon closely for the first time, and I (independently) asked someone if there was a discussion anywhere about it. Without any knowledge of what was in the transcript, I asked: "I hear 'Steve drive around...' ... Is that one of the choices?" So that gets my vote. — It's dot com 22:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I hear The second one and possibly the first. --TheYellowDart(t/c) 21:58, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
What I actually hear is "Stee turn around to..." As I don't believe "Stee" is a word, I'm thinking it's probably "Steve" or some other word. Heimstern Läufer 22:03, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Upon the first 13 listenings, I heard "steve, drive", but after slowing it down and listening to it with noise removal, I heard "please drive". DeFender1031 22:05, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, a nice opportunity to show you all what I showed to DeFender. Slowed down and noise removal'd. ¤ The Dang, Pom Pom, you see that? That's a nice golbol. Talk to me. 22:08, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, I can't open .ogg files, but I heard "Steve, dry around to the seventh window." Hang tight and do not respond while I put it through my own noise filter. (I'll be back in 1-6 minutes)
Done! And I heard time and time again, "Steve, dry around to the seventh window." If you could convert that .ogg to a .mp3, .wav, .wma, .flac, or .dmse, I could hear it and pass judgement with an unbias oppinion. —Supuhstar* Image:Supuhstar(SupuhSmall).gif

I heard "Steve" the second or third time around. At any rate it definitely sounded like it started with "S," whatever it was. I don't think it was "please." Mighta been "Steer your car around" but it sounds more like "Steve turn around" to me. Octan 05:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I heard "Please". But that could just be my ears deciding what to hear for me because it works so well in context. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 17:00, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I heard "Steve *turn* around..." Gus 17:34, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Here it is in MP3 format. Before you make any conclusions, please listen to this file. It may not clear up the confusion between "steve" and "steer", but you can definitely hear a "c" sound in "car" as opposed to a "d" as in "drive." ¤ The Dang, Pom Pom, you see that? That's a nice golbol. Talk to me. 19:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, no. I can't hear "car" even when I'm listening specifically for it. After multiple listenings, filtered and unfiltered I still hear a "St" sound at the beginning of the first word (so it's not "please") and the second word still sounds like "drive". — It's dot com 22:29, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I hear "Steve, drive around to the seventh window", with little ambiguity. Yes, it doesn't make sense to include "Steve", but a lot of the other things that crazy whale says don't make sense either. Trey56 22:33, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
So, after a repeated viewing this morning, I suddenly can't understand how I initially thought it was "please". It's most definitely "Steve", whoever he is. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 14:50, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
I hear either one, depending on what I am listning for. It's hard to tell what it's supposed to be.

[edit] Congratulations, trainer! Your "The Cheat" evolved!

Doesn't anyone noticed that The Cheat looks a litte bit different? His eyes and "beak/nose" seem different. Anybody noticed that? Darkangel Get offa me!

I don't see anything. Retromaniac 03:27, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
The eyes were further over a lot of the time, but that's because he was looking to the right a lot. This has happened a few times in past toons and emails; it was just more common here. It's nothing too noteworthy. As for the voice, all of the characters' voices have changed at one time or another throughout the course of the series. 0rion 06:41, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sweet Cuppin' Cakes

Doesn't the whale somewhat resemble the cow-hellicopter from Sweet Cuppin' Cakes? Retromaniac 03:34, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Sherlock does appear to have more in common with whales than cows or helicopters (but then, most things have more in common with those than Sherlock). But any connection between the two is entirely speculation. --DorianGray 03:37, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Echo II: Echo-lectric Boogaloo

Here's a deleted remark that's at least interesting. Trey56 06:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

When Strong Bad shouts at the drive-thru whale about being isolated in the middle of the field, his voice echoes even though there is nothing else in the field for the sound of his voice to bounce off of.
I was the one that deleted it, and this is the reason: the speed of sound is exactly 769.5 miles per hour. An echo can bounce off of an object over 5 miles away given the proper conditions. Even during the two or three pan-outs of the field, there was simply no way to be certain that there was nothing for the echo to resound off of. We've also seen numerous buildings in Free Country, USA, any one of which could have been just out of our range of vision. In addition, even if it were true, the echo was made for comedic effect, as in many TV shows, movies, and cartoons. It's really no more noteworthy than say... Homsar's feet making a silly sound when he walks. Sure, that wouldn't normally happen, but it's a cartoon. Incidentally, thanks for taking this to the discussion page in order to clear this up. 0rion 07:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
On a different tack, the echo effect is clearly post-production to enhance the "surrounded by nothing" notion. It's obviously not even notable that the echo can or can't exist in this instance as its use is clearly dramatic, not realistic. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 22:26, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I have a theory: the pan-out of the field shows the drive-thru whale, The Cheat, and Strong Bad on a hill. I say this because when you can normally see them, note the trees (or whatever) in the background. Also note that they are not there when the camera is zoomed out. One of the possibilities is that the trees are slightly lower in elevation than the characters. Taking that into account, it's possible that the trees may not have been visible, though they still could have resounded Strong Bad's comment. But still, it's just an flash file, guys. Does it really matter? -Billiken 00:50, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Zelda reference?

I know it's a it of a stretch, but could the whale flying away at the end be a reference to those time telling eye-rocks in Zelda: Majora's Mask?-Ashley

Oh, I know exactly what you're talking about — those things are creepy! They launch when you hit them with the hammer or blow them up with a bomb, or something, right? Probably a coincidence, but interesting connection! Trey56 09:48, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Kinda reminded me of one of flying enemies in level 1 of Ghosts N Goblins, but I agree with Trey... stupid coincidence magazine. I R F 11:42, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't see the connection. (And BTW, they're in Ocarina of Time as well.) ¤ The Dang, Pom Pom, you see that? That's a nice golbol. Talk to me. 20:41, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

what this reminds me of, though its nothing to do with zelda, is the Lunar Whale from Final Fantasy V that carries characters from earth to the moon. Could it be a reference to that instead? (or a reference to both?)

The Big Whale is from Final Fantasy 4, not 5, BTW. Kind of a stretch, either way, though... -YKHi. I'm Ayjo! 06:30, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it was a reference to anything. I think it was just supposed to be some kind of alien pod sent to get food, in the same manner Strong Bad sent the toy rocket to get Lobsters. -Chupaqueso 00:14, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh yeah, it was FFIV, sorry... After watching it a couple of times, I'm starting to think that its just random. --Sir Vimes 20:32, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

If anything, the concept of a "Space Whale" could be a reference to the original SNES StarFox, which featured a space whale. By itself it's a reference to the game StarGlider II which also had space whales, and is the direct ancestor to StarFox (StarGlider II was from Argonaut). But ultimately, StarGlider II's space whales may be a reference to "Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home". 09:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] severed limbs

Personally, I believe that the "sever your leg" comment is an inside joke. It is another reference to severed limbs. There should probably be a page for it.

You be the judge:

In the email "cliffhangers," Lappy has a "severed little toe," ie the comma. In "Halloween Potion-ma-jig" Pom Pom pulls out a severed toe to add to Homestar's potion. There's always the many references to Strong Sad's severed head. And, Strong Bad's severed head when he was commenting on the costumes, although I'm not sure which one it was. And Coach Z, at one point, thought he found Biscuitdoughhandsman's severed hand.

I'm not sure if there are any more. Those are the ones I could think of.

I hope this warrants a sub-category. If not, no worries. It was just a thought.

Now that you mention it, severed body parts have come up alot... do they already have a page? Let me check. If not, we should put one up.-- DongleGoblin 19:37, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, like in Peasant's Quest where you can try to cut off your arms, legs, and head, or in disconnected where he separates his head from his body, or in virus where Bubs used Homestar Runner's severed leg for a shotgun (and in the easter egg where Fightgar uses it as an automatic laser gun). Or those countless uses of Strong Sad's severed head. Or even way back in some kinda robot where he says "Do you take off your face and hands before you go to bed?" —Supuhstar* Image:Supuhstar(SupuhSmall).gif
You might should add them to the page. --DorianGray 21:09, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks so much. I'm new to this, or I would have done that myself Mgkish742
Wasn't there also, at some point, some mention of selling Strong Sad's foot as an elephant garbagecan?

Have any of you noticed that before the sign swallowed the lobster it severed its claw when told to? This might be a stretch, but is it possible that the swallowing and take off sequence of the sign is somehow triggered by the severing of limbs? -Scholar of Homestar

That's what I thought when I first saw this toon. I thought the whale was some sort of predator that acted like a drive-thru box, then told the person to sever their leg, thus rendering them unable to run away. Then the whale could feast! EYanyo 03:59, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wallpaper

I've made a wallpaper for this cartoon, you can get it at [1] - Volbeat A The Cheat 14:08, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is that Homestar in There?

Doesn't a lot of what the whale says seem to be done in a very similar style as Homestar? I honestly expected him to jump out of the whale at the end. --TheBlue (not registered) Mar 26 19:41 (UTC)

Doesn't really sound like him. The first thing I thought of, actually, was a Stinkoman reference, but I can't see (or hear) anything really relating to that either. Ever get the impression TBC did this toon just to throw us all off? :) — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 05:00, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Closed STUFF

[edit] Ask Inviso-Jeeves

The name "Inviso-Jeeves" in the Easter egg is a reference to Reginald Jeeves, the famous valet from P. G. Wodehouse's series of novels. The name "Jeeves" is often used in popular culture for characters in similar professions, such as butlers and waiters.

Posted on: 09:38, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Closed: 13:11, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was accepted as revised, 26–14. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/Drive-Thru.

[edit] Al Aboard

The animated music video for "Weird Al" Yankovic's "Trapped in the Drive-Thru" was released on MySpace the same day this came out.

Posted on: 19:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Closed: 22:49, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was overwhelmingly declined, 23–6. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/Drive-Thru.

[edit] Infinitely Probable Reference

The whale, restaurant, space, and improbability of this toon reference 'The Restaurant at the End of the Universe' by Douglas Adams

Posted on: 23:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Closed: 17:05, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was declined, 29–11. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/Drive-Thru.

[edit] My bro is pro?

I think I hear "PRO-awesome" instead of "bro-awesome", besides, bro-awesome seems like a brother that is awesome, which SB would not agree with one of his brothers, and such... --Darkangel Get offa me! 21:43, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm unmistakenly hearing a "b" myself. I don't care to surmise what it might mean, but that's what I hear. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 21:47, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
I distinctly hear "bro-awesome". Yeah, "pro-awesome" probably makes more sense, but we're talking about a toon that has a plastic cetacean consuming extraterrestrial shellfish, so... yeah. Has Matt? (talk) 21:51, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Umm...Isn't there a topic on this subject already on this page? Neox

[edit] It's the greatest day?

It sounded more like "It's a Thursday." to me... eh? 17:49, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

This one we can actually be sure about: Quote of the Week#QW-2007-04-05. Trey56 17:53, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Europa - Moon or Continent

Europa-pean is a portmanteau of Europa and European, "Europa" being a common European word for Europe.

Even if it's technically true, is that last part really necessary, or even applicable in this case? It seems to me like Europa simply refers to the moon of Jupiter. - ReverendTed 16:08, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

That last part was irrelevant to this toon. I removed it. — It's dot com 16:29, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Another possibility.

This is a little off of the wall, but given that the whole cartoon is off the wall, there's that episode of South Park where they shoot the whale into space, albeit to our moon, as oppose to Jupiter's. -- 21:26, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

a) It wasn't a whale b) like you said, it wasn't Europa, so this is barely relevant at all, and c) could you not sent links to "Mature" rated TV shows? Homestar-Winner (talk) 21:32, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

South Parks mature? MJN SEIFER 13:57, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I think he meant rated M... — Defender1031*Talk 14:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, so did I. MJN SEIFER 12:49, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Rated M? Nah.. I think he meant TV-MA. Either way, not relevant. OptimisticFool 16:18, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Blame Canada!!

I haven't seen "invasion of the space lobsters" nor do I have any interest in buying it, but just how much evidence is there that this is a definite reference? Are the lobsters purple? Are they realistic-looking or cartoonish? I don't think it should be included just because of the simple phrase "space lobster". The idea of "space ________ (insert animal)" is a fairly standard gimmick. Some kind of scientist 21:02, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to remove it then if no one can explain why it should be included. (Some kind of scientist 04:46, 12 December 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Tune

The same drive-thru whale tune is used in Blubb-O's Commercial. --FangoriouslyFotoshopStar.png 22:10, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] A very long shot on a reference

The Cheat seems to be quite upset with the lack of "blue ones", and in the Easter Egg, when SB orders him a blue one, he becomes very calm. In the film Cube, there was an autistic kid who got panicky and agitated unless he was in a blue room, at which point he became calm again.

Like I said, long shot; what do you think? -ftr

[edit] Is this thing not loading?

I'm having a mildly weird bug with this toon. It seems to load fine, but about 2 seconds into the actual animation, it stops, and using a flash seek bar to unpause it seems to pause it again. This isn't the only toon with this bug, either. 2 Part Episode: Part 1 seems to have this bug too. Is anybody having trouble loading it, too?--h o mj esa na rtalk contr. 21:19, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

See here. You can fix this by updating Flash to the latest version. --Jay (Talk) 22:13, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
that's happened to me before, on whatever toon i decided to watch. it sounds to me like the problem is on your end. The Knights Who Say Ni 02:00, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Oh... right. I even reported myself that none worked on XP SP3. Since my problem started after I upgraded to Firefox's latest release, I assumed it screwed up some Flash Player crap. And since I use Mac OS X now, I probably thought they would work.

Seems like another case of temporal amnesia by my side. Thank you. --Homsar Jean 03:58, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

I neglected to notice that both of the toons she mentioned are on the list of affected toons. i heard that the certain version of flash player caused problems with some of the toons, so i avoided ever downloading it. therefore, idk what it does to the toons, but the glitch i noted really has happened: about two seconds in to the toon, it would stop. all i had to do to fix it was to reset the browser, so i just figured this problem was on my end, so i decided not to bring it up. and it hasn't happened in a long time. In short, Jay's answer was correct. The Knights Who Say Ni 05:17, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
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