Template talk:Strong Bad Email

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[edit] New format

Yeah, I think the newer format I just implemented is a bit better. At least it looks better. And I've always liked the using the names of the emails instead of the numbers. It might be a bit large, but I like how it works. I think there's ways to do just the few emails before and the few emails after the current one as well if we wanted to do that. -- Tom 13:18, 13 Sep 2004 (MST)

I think it looks a little cluttery. It would help if the font wasn't bold(ish).. can that be changed? It might also look better if it were arranged into columns. -- InterruptorJones 13:49, 13 Sep 2004 (MST)

[edit] DVD

New DVD Emails need to be added, or should we make a whole new "DVD Template"? --FireBird|Talk

This is a very important question. I've noticed some additions to some emails about differences in certain emails. I think we are going to have to wait and see how many emails are different, and maybe then we can have just those in a special "DVD Strong Bad Email" template? Or maybe we can just start it now? I'm really flying blind here, my DVD doesn't come until next week... -- Tom 17:08, 12 Nov 2004 (MST)

[edit] Center

Can we center the list? I think it looks better centered. That way it's not all hugging one side. - Joshua

Done. Firefox doesn't seem to interpret "<table align=center>" properly. —Gafaddict Image:Gafaddict sigpic.gif (Talk | Contribs.) 01:42, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)
I've made it so the page validates correctly and uses the fun wiki table format. Oh, and the center thing doesn't do it for me. If we decide to go with it though, just add a <center> below the clearing <div> and a </center> at the very bottom. No need for anything fancy. -- Tom 04:50, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)
I wouldn't mind it being centered. All the other templates are. Does anybody object to this? Thunderbird 20:46, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)
As we have it now with the width set to 100%, centering wouldn't do much. -- Tom 21:29, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)
It's the text inside that matters if its being centered or not. - Joshua 16:53, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Overcrowded

I really think that this template is overcrowded. What about if there were three different email templates, one for each era of computers? For examples of what I mean , see below. --videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif 03:07, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Examples

Wow, Venusy-san... I like those. You're right, the main one is quite crowded... That's a nice solution, and easily re-altered if there's ever a fourth computer. --DorianGray

Question: would all 3 templates appear in every email, or (as I would guess) would each email have the appropriate template type? --Stux 03:43, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
It would probably only take up more room if all three were to be put in. I assume that they would be used for each individual email appropriately. I really like this idea, and hope it can be implemented soon. — Lapper (talk) 03:46, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I did mean that each email would only have the template relevant to it. --videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif 03:55, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
I like it. It looks snazzy and far more organized. Thunderbird 04:24, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
My only concern: should the previous/next links really point to the Category pages? Would it make more sense to link to the other templates? Other than that, me likey. --Jay (Talk) 04:29, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
I see your point but it wouldn't make much sense to link to the templates themselves. This is not something that I know has been done before. We could post the templates on the category though. --Stux 04:39, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Alternately, the link could go to the email on the end closest to the range. Thus, the Tandy menu link would go to invisibility, etc. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 05:03, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Edit Conflict:I forgot to mention, I like it too. The {{sbenav}} template uses different arrows for its prev/next:

Strong Bad Email #{{{1}}}
[[HR:sbemail{{{1}}}.html|watch]]   [[{{{2}}}| {{{2}}}]] [[{{{3}}}|{{{3}}} ]]

You may want to use those instead. Also, may I suggest that we make the transition process easy for those undertaking the job by naming the new templates something not too different from this such as [[Template:Strong Bad Email 1]], [[Template:Strong Bad Email 2]], etc. Also what will become of this template, will it be kept for historical purposes? The Lappy template cannot simply take the place of this template for various reasons. --Stux 04:34, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Reply to Stux: A preserved version of this template can be found here.And I've changed the «s to ←s, and the same for the ones on the right.
Reply to Jay: That's a good idea, but it can't really be implemented until the templates get their own page.
--videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif 04:49, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
EDIT: No it isn't.
Good point. --Jay (Talk) 04:53, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Oh, come on. The template is gigantic, sure, but breaking it up like that is hardly a solution. Let it survive in one piece, says I. — It's dot com 04:55, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Venusy: What are you talking about? All the templates are there including the big ol' SBE one. It's at the bottom. For keeping it: Keep it. It's one of the oldest, most updated template and it's the most used. I know santimental value is not a good argument, but still consider it. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 05:07, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Basically, my mind is playing tricks on me at this time of the morning (5am). What I meant to say was that it is linked to as a template, meaning that if the template goes, the one on your page goes as well. And in response to Qermag (below), there already is a link to a page containing all the emails ([[Strong Bad Email). Or did you mean a link back to this template, thus elimanating the need for it to be deleted?
Oh, that would not be a problem, if it's replaced I can just copy the code before the deletion, just like with the PBTC template. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 10:19, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
It's so small I cannot read it. The font is illegible at the size it needs to be. When we hit 200 and 250 that will be an impossible situation. Better to break it up now. And, perhaps a left-flush link to the list of all emails? So you can two-click to any email? Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 05:05, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
I like this idea. I have been wondering what we were going to do if when the template got immensly huge. Venusy has just given me the solution I've been wanting all this time. It's compact, organized, plus it just plain looks cool. This, to me, is a better idea than the sbenav templates. We should stop the problem before it starts. Has Matt? (talk) 11:07, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Actually, looking at it again, I don't see the harm in keeping it long and together. Sure it'll get long, but it's still right at the bottom of the page, so who's it hurting? I don't see any problem keeping the template as-is. Thunderbird 16:38, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Alphabetize

I have a crazy idea. What if we alphabetized this table. We already have a nice, easy-to-read chronological list here, and it's never more than one click away. We also have forward and backward navigation at the top of each email. But whenever I'm trying to find something in this huge table, it's always a chore. Alphabetizing the list would make it much simpler to locate a particular email. — It's dot com 08:54, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

The intent of this template has always been to show where in the big world of emails the current email falls. It's hard to see this when looking at the template by itself, but it becomes clearer when seen in an actual email article with the title bolded automatically. I don't think changing it to an alphabetical list would work as well. If we really wanted to have an alphabetical list of emails, we could always make a Strong Bad Email By Title page or something. -- Tom 09:05, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
We don't have that? (The link was red when I posted this.) I'ma start on that now. — It's dot com 09:33, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template Colors

Should the Template be colored in besides that boring blue color? Maybe a red template should fix the configuration. -Viklas 18:43, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Red would be too shocking and maybe even distracting. I think the template is fine the way it is, it's part of an email article page, and so it should blend with that page. I think softer tones are better, especially for such a large template. Like I said, I think the template colors are fine the way they are. --Stux 14:48, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] By 10's?

I was thinking that maybe making the template go ten emails, then have a linebreak, go the next ten, linebreak, next ten, linebreak, and so on might make it easier to show what order they came in.

Or something like that. Maybe have the numbers by them, too, for example, #1: some kinda robot | #2: homsar | #3: butt IQ | #4: homestar hair

After all, personally, I think that'd make it nicer looking, and easier to follow. Sure, to determine the number, you just have to count, but with either, or both, of what I suggested, it'd be easier... TTEchidna 04:37, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm, doesn't look bad. I don't think numbering them would look good, especially if they're by 10's. But however this does look neater without having to hide emails. --Stux 06:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
It doesn't look very good at 800x600. -- Tom 06:43, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] SBEmail Info?

Should we add {{StrongBadEmailInfo}} to the top of this template? Every now and then people ask about statistical information that's easily available in those pages. Seems to me many people are unaware of their existence (and would only know about them if they went to the main Strong Bad Email page.) This way these pages would have more universal visibility. --Stux 03:26, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Revision

I've made a new version of the template. It looks neater. Strong Sader 16:49, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Looks Great! _-Dr. S-_ 02:16, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New styles

The current template is very cluttered, and I see numerous talk posts suggesting seperation by computer (and a post suggesting {{StrongBadEmailInfo}} to be included here), so I made some improvements. What do you think?

Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 23:52, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

I do think the template is easier to navigate with at least some breaking up of the list. I think I'd slightly prefer this way over the one Venusy suggested above over a decade ago, and I'd definitely prefer it over the by tens suggestion. I like that it includes the {{StrongBadEmailInfo}} info, just since it's more convenient this way to get to that info from a page about a specific sbemail. Though I don't think this updated Strong Bad Email template should replace the {{StrongBadEmailInfo}} template. DEI DAT VMdatvm center\super contra 10:16, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
It shouldn't replace {{StrongBadEmailInfo}}? How would that work exactly? Would the "Info" section be removed from this template? Would both templates be included? If so, would they be included on all email-related pages, or just the info pages? Or this template for the emails, and the other for the info pages? Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 06:44, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
That last sentence is what I was thinking, yes. In info pages, this template would probably be less useful since, in most cases, you're going to those to see sbemails arranged a different way. I still think the {{StrongBadEmailInfo}} info would still be useful in this template since it would mean not having to go to the Strong Bad Email page to get to any of the pages that are in that template anymore. Or. DEI DAT VMdatvm center\super contra 09:41, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
All right, that sounds good. Anyone else have an opinion? Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 21:07, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi everyone, I'm still trying to digest all the changes as well as understand the interaction with {{StrongBadEmailInfo}}. I do think this is a huge improvement over the previous suggestion and should find a way forward (unless somebody loves the mesh of all emails ... which I will miss ;) ). If I understood correctly: {{StrongBadEmailInfo}} will remain as-is and this one will just have the extra Info section for accessibility's sake? I did notice that the order of items is different from {{StrongBadEmailInfo}} and that Podstar Runner is missing. Before going live with it we should get opinions from several other users as well. --Stux 21:32, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
Yes, you understood correctly. (Although my intention was that this would replace {{StrongBadEmailInfo}}. But I'd be fine with keeping both.) And yes, I made some changes to the Info section. I made this a year ago, so I don't remember my reasoning exactly, but I think I tried to choose the order that made the most sense. Also, I think I removed stuff like Podstar Runner and Acknowledged Update Delays because they weren't exclusively Strong Bad Email-related. (If we included those pages in the template, we might as well include every page.) Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 05:24, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
Any objections before I make the change? Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 22:36, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
Yes. How about waiting for a sysop's approval? RickTommy (edits) 00:27, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
Nah, go ahead. - 03:41, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
Looks good to me. I say go for it. — Defender1031*Talk 04:41, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

imaginary was recently put in a separate Corpy NT6 section. My intention was to have a seperate section for each computer era, whereas imaginary is more of a transition from one era to the next, and I don't think it needs a section of its own. I still think it belongs in the Compé section, since it was made after the Lappy's destruction, and leads into the Compé era. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 00:15, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

It can't belong in the Compé section because Strong Bad didn't know about the Compé until after imaginary happened. The Knights Who Say Ni 01:49, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
I agree with Gfdgarble. - 15:52, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
I agree with Knights. It has its own section on Strong Bad Email. It shouldn't be different here. — It's dot com 16:35, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
So should from work be included with the Corpy or would that open a can of worms that ends in the bird being part of the Pom Pilot "era" Guybrush20X6 00:19, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
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