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[edit] DNA Evidence

Is this easter egg more evidence that TBC read the wiki?— Bassbone (TALK Strong Mad Has a Posse CONT) 07:08, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

How so? They make the running gags, not us. My own speculation is that this will ultimately end in email 173 with something happening to The Paper. Or maybe in 175. —BazookaJoe 07:10, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes, but the fact that in this email Homestar seems almost resigned to saying it leads me to believe that they've figured out we've been looking for it. Or perhaps it's there because they realized they've been putting DNA evidence into every email and they're making fun of themselves. I was just speculating, that's all. No need to jump down my throat.— Bassbone (TALK Strong Mad Has a Posse CONT) 07:30, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Not trying to jump down your throat. It would probably be really unhealthy anyways. They've got a great thread going on the Forum about this, if you want to add your voice to the mix. Seems like most people think that this will culminate with sbemail 173. Personally though, I don't know how TBC could accidentally go 5 emails in a row with unconsciously writing DNA evidence into them. —BazookaJoe 07:36, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I personally think TBC *have* been messing around with us lately. They threw Drive-Thru at us totally randomly, and it was such a non-sequitur that we struggled for days to find references to virtually anything else in the HSR universe. Then the DNA evidence, which is itself a non-sequitur through the last six emails... TBC, if you're reading this, you're really funny! Keep it up! :) — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 19:16, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Something about that windy sound and Homestar's sigh of resignation, combined with the strange non-sequitur and the suburban comfort of Marzipan's sofa reminded me of the scary moments in David Lynch's movies, particularly the recent Inland Empire. Anyone else here see a connection? Henebry 15:33, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Here's the thing: when you're a David Lynch fan, EVERYTHING reminds you of David Lynch. I know this because I'm one myself.

Maybe he's just desperate at finding a way to fit in DNA Evidence. 16:37, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Second -JamesDean 21:21, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Maybe that's exactly what they want you to think. Anyway, we ought to cease discussion of this here, as it's irrelevent to the article. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 22:16, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
(Reply to Bazooka Joe)I was asking here because I felt it relevant to the Wiki and perhaps placement in the article, though there isn't eny eveidence for or against. At this point it's speculation, but I felt it was speculation about the article.— Bassbone (TALK Strong Mad Has a Posse CONT) 01:08, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Please do not post speculation about the DNA Evidence running gag here. Take it to the forum instead. Thank you.

[edit] Strong Sad being somewhat violent upon Strong Bad...

Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but is this the first time that Strong Sad has ever been violent upon Strong Bad? - Ren Foxx 08:04, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

He did join the Homestarmy... But this is the first act of actual violence, according to Strong Bad and Strong Sad's Relationship.Shwoo 01:30, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
He also yelled at Strong Bad and Strong Mad in Experimental Film. Not physical violence, but close. 0rion 11:27, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Actual physical violence was what I was looking for. Thanks! - Ren Foxx 15:10, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Preloader?

Is it just me, or does this toon not have a preloader? Might be worth watching to see if this changes. »Blendage t.c :: 10:31, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh, you mean the Loading screen? There's one in the Flash file, but you're right, it's not used. This happened recently in another toon, but I don't remember which one offhand.... Trey56 10:34, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
It was your funeral, I think. Shwoo 10:37, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, that's the one — good call. Trey56 10:38, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
The script for frame 1 simply says
ifFrameLoaded(15) gotoAndPlay(16);
. I assume that TBC simply forgot to subsitute 15 for a frame number that makes more sense. Loafing 10:40, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Nope, there's definitely a loading screen. I distinctly remember it taking a longer-than-usual time to load. Ppk01 12:53, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Maybe something else is up, but i can't view the swf file directly. It just stays blank. Even after i downloaded it and ran it locally -JamesDean 21:23, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
There is a loading screen... for me. --TheYellowDart(t/c) 22:15, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Strong Sad: Executive Lawyer?

Is Strong Sad's lawyer alter-ego part of the Rough Copy TV Show sequence, or is that really his profession? Strong Sader 12:43, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

The scene with Strong Sad the lawyer was after the Rough Copy opening credits, so I don't think it was part of it. It might be his profession, but he was a temp in the last email. Shwoo 12:49, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
To further that, Strong Bad specifically mentioned a "credits sequence," so nothing after the credits would be part of it.

[edit] Todd Goldman

Does anyone think that this toon is a reference to the Todd Goldman copyright infringement accusations? It's been getting a lot of attention in the webcomic community. Here's a link that explains what happened and links to a lot of the responses. --Maxamegalon2000 13:30, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

After looking through that SomethingAwful thread, you're probably right on this. Would it be safe to put this as a Remark or a Real-World References? - Ren Foxx 15:25, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I agree that this is almost certainly a real-world reference to the controversy. Should we put it to a vote?
Henebry 15:39, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
A vote definantly sounds like a good idea. - Ren Foxx 16:55, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Easter Egg Goof

Did no one notice that goof at the end when you click on the candy bar? Strong Bad's left cheek and his arm freak out when he backs away from Senor Cartgage! That's the kind of thing TBC will probably fix within a day or so, it's painfully obvious. -- Abelhawk 13:43, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I did notice that. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 13:58, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sam & Max

The action-packed credit sequence reminded me of the "pleasantly understated credit sequence" in Sam & Max Hit the Road, especially the music... is it a possible reference? ShiversTheNinja 16:34, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree. The car-surfing at the end I thought was a dead give-away.

The music, the guns perspective and the surfing at the end are obvious sam & max references...

Third. I've had that game and in fact love it. Retromaniac 23:07, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
I was about to mention that. Seriously it was totally on my mind, and then I noticed that someone already referenced it.

[edit] SB2O versus Sb2O

The current explanation states that the SB2O drink is diantimony oxide. This would be Sb2O, not "SB2O" (as the drink bottle labels clearly state), which would be a mixture of one sulphur atom, two boron atoms and an oxygen atom. I think this needs to be corrected. Jimmy91 17:16, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

No, the bottle has "B" insted of "b" so no change.
That's what he's saying. It would only be diantimony oxide if it were a lowercase b. With "B" instead, it would be one sulfur, two borons, and an oxegen atom, like he said. Exhibit A (talk · edits) 18:27, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah. Diantimony Oxide would be Sb2O, as opposed to SB2O. --Jnelson09 21:32, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Erm... Under explanations it said that SB stood for antimony, but I corrected it and wrote it as "Sb." I didn't really mention sulfur or boron except in my edit eummary. Feel free to correct this page as you see fit. EYanyo 22:19, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

But it's the name of a flavored water, it isn't intended as a chemical formula. This is simply trivia, and ought to be noted there, if at all. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 22:20, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Right... but when I see something on a page that is incorrect, I prefer to fix it rather than outright remove it. I saw "SB is the chemical symbol for antimony" and I said, "Hmm. That should be 'Sb.'" Then I made it so. I don't really know/understand/care about all the nuances and stuff for the wiki, so you can take appropriate action for this fact. EYanyo 22:23, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, if a chemical formula is going to be referenced at all, it should at least be the one that the name resembles. Sb would never be written SB in a chemical formula as they represent two entirely different things. The reference should either be corrected or removed.--H-ko 22:36, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

As far as regards the "flavored water" (imagine queasy voice to go with that), it's definitely not diantimony monoxide, nor is it sulfur diboron monoxide. I do think, however, that this is a real-world reference to a fairly well-known brand of bottled water known as "Fruit-2-O". I'm actually kind of surprised that this didn't get mentioned.--Zero.exe 04:26, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

You may want to weigh in at STUFF:rough copy — there's a discussion about this going on there... Trey56 04:27, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

OK, couldn't I at least put something on the page that pertains to "if SB20 were a chemical formula" etc etc... and that way people would be less confused? Jimmy91 18:47, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bwoke

My computer keeps giving me the 404'd message when I try to watch this email. Suggestions?-- DongleGoblin 19:25, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Clear your cache. --DorianGray 19:26, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Snowball in the Freezer

StrongSad keeping snowballs in the freezer has "been done" by the likes of Bill Cosby and Calvin and Hobbes. It's not so much a reference as an old joke, possibly a nod or parody. KanineKommander

Very yes. Very old joke. Very TTATOTLoafing 21:38, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
However, the way Strong Sad says it is more specifically reminiscent of Bill Cosby's routine. We should probably STUFF that fact. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 22:14, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
STUFF it. My opinion has not been decided yet... but... --TheYellowDart(t/c) 22:18, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gremlin

If I'm not mistaken, the Gremlin from one of the Christmas cartoons appears in the credit sequence. This should be mentioned in running gags.

Ah, the AMC Gremlin. Go ahead. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 22:38, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Cheat's Mouth

I noticed that the Cheat opens his mouth for the soft tacos, he looks incredibly similar to The House That Gave Sucky Treats when he eats the pops rocks. Also, should we put that he is acting like a seal in this, too? - Pants 3000 16:44, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

The seal bit is noted, I believe. As far as him opening his mouth, is that really notable? I don't think so at all. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 23:12, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I agree. That's just the way The Cheat opens his mouth, and one would expect TBC to use the same animations for similar actions in the cartoons. --Lux Acerbus 00:03, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

It's alright, somebody put that in the Fun Facts. Yay! - Pants 3000 16:02, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Senor Cardgage Glitches

Those reasons for deleting those facts are bogus, in my opinion. The arm one is totally obvious, and I see no reason why Strong Bad's cheek would swell and shrink back to normal size like that, since his mouth would be moving if he was chewing, and the right cheek does nothing similar. I will agree that my comment of "you're blind" was most juvenile, however, Qermaq, regardless of the reason for why this person was unable to see the glitch. --Lux Acerbus 23:59, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

  • In the Senor Cardgage Easter egg, Strong Bad's arm holding the candy bar moves upward slightly as he leans back. However, when he moves back to his original position, the hand moves back, but the arm stays in its lifted position until the Easter egg ends.
    • Also in the Senor Cardgage Easter egg, Strong Bad's left cheek appears to move more slowly than the rest of his head as he leans back, then swells and shrinks once he leans forward back into place.
EDIT CONFLICT:Those are there for reference. Now, I agree with the cheek one and not the arm one. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 00:02, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
This person has a name, you know. Anyways, I misread the fact about the arm not moving. You're right, that's a goof. The cheek moving like this still seems to be obvious chewing to me. So I agree with SMB. Loafing 00:04, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
I know your name, it was in the email confirmation the wiki sent me. I just didn't want to give any names, y'know... Don't ask why... Anywhoozit, I don't see how that could be considered "chewing." As I mentioned, his other cheek and his mouth don't move, and chewing wouldn't really explain why his right cheek freaks out like that - it just swells and shrinks really suddenly. --Lux Acerbus 00:12, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
EDIT CONFLICT: Loafing: I said the exact opposite of what you did, do you just like me? Anywayzers, I went back and watched the easter egg again, and I figured it out. They're a result of the goTo tag. The easter egg looks perfectly fine until it goes back to the original end. That's where everything jumps. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 00:10, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay, play nice, childrens. Now for my two cents: Does it make sense for Strong Bad to be chewing on only one side of his mouth in such an odd fashion and not the other? If you watch his right cheek, it doesn't move with respect to his head when his head moves, but his left cheek does, and seemingly independently of his head.

As for the arm glitch: I'm not sure how you can not see it. I don't have a seek bar that can show frame numbers, but if you look at the last few frames of the Easter egg before it jumps back to the "end of toon" point (where animation stops), you can see that his arm is in a different position before the jump than it is after the jump. And if you follow the animation closely throughout the egg, you'll see that the arm animates exactly as described in the above-referenced Goofs. (If you are truly not seeing that, it's possible that TBC fixed this goof and I've got an old copy in cache.) — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 00:53, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I see both glitches. They're fairly obvious to me and I can't see how they're not glitches. I'm'a try in IE to see if I get different results. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 01:14, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Yup, still see 'em. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 01:21, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Ok, Ok, I have simply misread (again!) what SMB said. I definitely think the arm jump is a goof. As for the cheek, I see what you say the left cheek does, but I don't think it's a goof. It may not be the best animation ever, but I wouldn't go as far as saying it's a goof. To start with, it's not uncommon for cartoon characters to only chew on one side. Also, note how his right cheek grows and shrinks when he chews before the Easter egg. His left cheek seemingly not moving back when his head does could be a goof, but it can also be explained by him moving the bar inside his mouth at the same time. Hence, we shouldn't claim that one's a goof. Hope this clears the confusion about what I think is a goof and what not. Loafing 01:32, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

The shrinking part might be chewing, but the cheek itself doesn't move with SB's head. That part should be left in. 02:30, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I think they're both unintended glitches. Trey56 08:30, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Loafing, you can tell it's not chewing because if you look closely, at the begining of the egg, part of his cheek does not have an outline on it. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 23:32, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Does a chewing cheek always have an outline in it? Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 23:54, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Um, no, it actually doesn't. And his cheek does move a teeny bit, as a response to the new goof that's posted on the page. — Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 00:02, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
So.. why is this not chewing again? Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 00:04, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
Arrg, no! I'm forced to agree with Loafing and Qermaq! AHH!!! --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 00:05, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
Is that a fate worse than death or what? Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 09:22, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
That depends. Does it have an outline on it? --Lux Acerbus 00:10, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] barbed wire goof

Does anyone think we should put when SB and the cheat are in barbed wire and silouetted and their bodies are cut off where the barbed wire is as a goof? Homestar-Winner (talk) 00:27, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Not really. I think the silhouette effect was to make it look like the "comic" characters had "come to life" or somesuch, then zooming in to reveal it was just Strong Bad and The Cheat covered in barbed wire was the gag. Or, um, something. That was a bit garbled, heh. -YKHi. I'm Ayjo! 00:36, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
I didn't put it in the "Goofs" section, I put it in the "Remarks" section since I thought there was a good chance that it was on purpose (or almost no chance it wasn't, rather), but still something that seems strangely unrealistic, and therefore worth noting. --Lux Acerbus 00:54, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I think it was intended. Loafing 01:32, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] caffiene

  1. This is the first time Strong Sad has been physically violent toward Strong Bad. He was previously violent towards Coach Z in in caffeine.

[edit] Bogart is not an inside reference

""Bogart" was previously used as a verb in Homestar Presents: Presents."

To bogart something is to hoard it for oneself. It used to specifically mean not passing around the weed. I'm fairly certain it's still a fairly popular term. At least, I still use it. But I wouldn't really call it an inside reference. They didn't invent the term, and they don't use it in any kind of in-jokey way.


for the record, it originates from Humphry Bogart's habbit of keeping a cigarette in his mouth at all times, even while talking. From there it was used to mean holding onto a joint for longer than your turn. From there it means holding onto anything for more than your turn, or not sharing. -Sam

[edit] Vanilla Envelope

I hear "vanilla." And I listened like four times. Seems like the kind of thing an HSR character would say; there really weren't any other characteristic malapropisms in this email. Octan 04:42, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I listened to it again, and I hear a distinct "m" sound. Trey56 04:45, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Same here. Manila. Loafing 09:41, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Manila ftw. Tho Vanilla would be a funnier HSRier joke. -JamesDean
I listened to it over and over, and I hear "vanilla" every time. Exhibit A (talk · edits) 15:49, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
It's vanilla. It refers to the color of the envelope. Retromaniac 16:22, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
"Vanilla" isn't a color. See Wikipedia:Manila folder. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 21:36, 18 April 2007 (UTC) says "vanilla" can also mean "Lacking adornments or special features; basic or ordinary". -- 18:15, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
RETRACTED - it does say vanilla. I cut it out, slowed it down, and it is Vanilla. I'd upload it or something, but I don't know if thats a real thing or possible or whatever. 3/3 people in my office that i made them listen to it agree. -JamesDean 21:28, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
Yup, it's definitely "vanilla". That does seem like the kind of joke they'd make. I'ma put this in HRWiki:Questions, but we should wait for more feedback to change it in the transcript. Dr. Clash 02:34, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
I keep listening to it, but I've never heard a "v" sound. Also, vanilla doesn't make any sense in the context, whereas manila makes perfect sense... Trey56 21:41, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
Same here. "Manila" is the real name of the type of folder and I hear an "m" sound. Think about it, guys. Why would TBC frontly call a manila envelope a vanilla one like that. Vanilla is a scent.... and ice cream flavor. Not a type of envelope. --TheYellowDart(t/c) 21:47, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
It's not supposed to make sense, it's a JOKE. Strong Bad mistakenly called it a "vanilla envelope". Exhibit A (talk · edits) 04:34, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Except that it was not clear that SB did mistakenly call it a "vanilla envelope". It's just less-than-perfect sound quality if even that. Maybe if they use it as a Quote of the Week, we can change it. --Jay o'Lantern (Haunt) 05:12, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
I just listened a few dozen times. I'm about 85% sure I hear "vanilla" but we should await greater consensus before making any sort of change in the transcript. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 09:02, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
After listening to it over and over, I'm changing my mind. I hear "vanilla" most of the time, "manila" very few times, and I'm unsure some times. So I'm tending towards "vanilla" now. Loafing 09:15, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
I definatly hear vanilla. I listened to it 50 times and 49 out of those 50 I heard vanilla. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 15:59, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Manila. It's quite clear. In addition, a joke seems out of place here. — It's dot com 16:49, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Yeah — that sound clip makes it even clearer. I think what people are hearing as a "v" sound may be the "d" sound at the end of "unmarked". Trey56 17:17, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I cannot believe that i am actually seeing this argument. I just had a discussion with my brother about how when i was little i thought they were called "vanilla envelopes". Seriously, this is about the second or third to most ridiculous debate i've seen. It's "manila". That's it. That's what they're called, that's what he said, and, by the way, the argument that "it's funny as 'vanilla'" or "that's the kind of joke they would make" don't hold any water, because if they really were making that joke they would go out of their way to make it clear that he was saying "vanilla" or else people might miss it. It's manila. End of story. DeFender1031 19:21, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm rather torn on this. I've listened to Dot com's sound clip around 25 times. When I'm listening for "manila" I hear "manila," and when I'm listening for "vanilla" I hear "vanilla." I'm going to put my vote in as neutral. ¤ The Dang, Pom Pom, you see that? That's a nice golbol. Talk to me. 19:23, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I appreciate DeFender1031 for making this argument and I appreciate The Mu for his ability to listen for both. I was worried that I was the only person in the world who could see why people were arguing. If your brain intends to hear "vanilla," it will hear "vanilla" until you give yourself the chance to hear how others hear it as "manila." Going with what DeFender said, a manila envelope is a real thing. In a debate that is well-split with opinions, it is more logical to go with what people in the real world would call it. It's less logical to assume that Strong Bad was just being Strong Bad and tweaking his words, because you simply don't know if he was or was not. —BazookaJoe 19:32, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
For further disbelievers, here's the first syllable. Manila. --TotalSpaceshipGirl3 19:43, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Be careful, listeners. It will turn into a sloppy verbal goo if you listen to it over and over again. First I hear m, then I hear v, then I don't know what I hear. Y'all should seriously remind yourself that your brain plays tricks on you all the time. Don't trust what you hear. Try to hear it both ways. —BazookaJoe 19:56, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
I agree with The Mu on this one. Neutral.
I'm listening to the oggs and I want to not hear a voiced labiodental fricative, but I do. What can I say? Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 01:35, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
You could say what a "voiced labiodental fricative" is ;-) Loafing 04:53, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Is the longest argument on this page really manilla vs. vanilla?-- 03:07, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Jay, the sound quality isn't as good on this one as it is in quote of the week or Presents: Presents, for example. I also agree that it is another joke of characters misinterpreting words and saying ones that sound similar to that word. I'm staying neutral. - Pants 3000 16:18, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Two Possible RWRs

I can't help but think that Strong Bad's comment about the "Strong-Bad flavored water" is a ref to the intro of Limp Bizkit's "Hot Dog", which mentions "Hot-dog flavored water" (but I'm not sure, since I'm almost positive that TBC would never ref a song that vulgar). I also think that Strong Bad saying, "His waterbombs are crazy good!" are a ref to Pop-Tarts, which have the motto, "Crazy Good!" Anyone agree? WeirdAl (talk · 16:33, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

You know, the Pop-Tarts' current slogan was the first thing I thought about the moment I heard those words. Coincidence? I think not!

The similarity is barely noticeable - only two words are the same. Besides, how is it the least bit out of the ordinary for someone to say "crazy good"? Considering that the context has nothing to do with Pop-Tarts, I find this highly doubtful. In addition, the whole "hot dog-flavored water" thing seems ridiculous to me. Strong Bad only mention flavored water. --Lux Acerbus 04:37, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The road moves on it's own

Pause the flash video on the rough copy sequence when they have the page is ripped. The road keeps moving. IT'S LIKE IT'S MAGIC OR SOMETHING. OMG LOZELR!

Sorry for the random last line.

Do you guys read the guidelines? That's a movie clip, designed to repeat indefinitely, even when the movie is paused. --TotalSpaceshipGirl3 02:24, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Yeah. Try looking at Homestar's eyes while it's paused. OMG POZELR MAGIC! ¤ The Dang, Pom Pom, you see that? That's a nice golbol. Talk to me. 13:31, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] To be filed

I'm not sure how to use this as a fun fact, but did it occur to anyone else that Strong Bad should have mentioned The Castlefunnies when talking about the plagerism? 01:00, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I really don't think it's notable, there was no reference made, just one that they could have made. Exhibit A (talk · edits) 03:49, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Crystal-clear

In the commentary for Commandos in the Classroom, Matt (talking about the "Wine Coolas" which, as Mike pointed out, looked like they were empty) said something like "Crystal-clear wine cooler, Mike! Goes down smooth!" Here's a link to the sound clip in question. Notable? ¤ The Dang, Pom Pom, you see that? That's a nice golbol. Talk to me. 02:53, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

First off, I don't think it's notable, Homestar says crystal clear like domestic beer. Second, he says crisp, not crystal. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 21:50, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Beer v. Cold Ones

Is it notable that Homestar said "beer" instead of "cold ones?"— Bassbone (TALK Strong Mad Has a Posse CONT) 00:17, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Seeing as "Cold Ones" don't rhyme with "clear", I'd say they almost had to say "beer". "Crystal clear like domestic Cold Ones"? That's not funny. Besides, they've referenced Alcohol many times before. Has Matt? (talk) 00:51, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Is it worth mentioning that this is the first time they've verbally said "beer" instead of "cold ones" -Adam 03:41, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Are you sure? I'm about 20% sure they've said it before, but I would have to go through all the emails again to figure out where. Perhaps someone else knows for sure? -ghostmaster
After a quick search, the only other time they've said beer was in Thy Dungeonman 3 (and also in the commentary for Homestarloween Party). I could very well have missed some, though. Trey56 04:29, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Search for yourself, if you like. I'm debating how much "beer batter" and "beer belly" count. --DorianGray 04:33, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps a mention in the Cold Ones article about the times beer has been said instead? I seem to recall a while ago there used to be a mention there.— Bassbone (TALK Strong Mad Has a Posse CONT) 06:42, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for reverting my edit for no reason

I'll make sure not to make any more :) — (Talk | contribs) 21:30, 21 April 2007 (UTC) (left unsigned)

Hi there — I assume you're talking about this edit. If you have an issue with Jay's reversion of your edit, why don't you ask him about it? I'm sure he had a reason and would be happy to talk about it. Best, Trey56 21:36, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
If you want your Fun Facts kept, make sure they're strongly supported by your references (try finding the episode that the joke was in). Also, make sure there is no reason to doubt that "this is where the joke originated." If someone finds another instance of it, it will be quickly billed as TTATOT. ¤ The Dang, Pom Pom, you see that? That's a nice golbol. Talk to me. 22:53, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Naw I was more thinking about the other one. — (Talk | contribs) 22:13, 22 April 2007 (UTC) (left unsigned)

Are you referring to this edit? The comment you made was irrelevant. ¤ The Dang, Pom Pom, you see that? That's a nice golbol. Talk to me. 19:17, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
I happen to agree. Explain its relevance. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png
the relevance is that the statement is implying that this is a mistake, that Strong Sad shouldn't require a big notebook because he can write tinily on rice. It's important to note that he had a big magnifying glass with him when he did that, and he doesn't have a third arm to hold one while he's writing in his notepad. therefore it's pretty normal for him to want a bigger notebook to write in unmagnified, and in fact he might have poor natural vision for all we know (elephants do).
So feel free to post that on the elephant optimological wiki. It isn't very relevant to homestar runner, or to this page. DeFender1031 22:29, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
Two points, Anonny: a) the notebook is significantly larger than a grain of rice, and b) Strong Sad is not an elephant. Loafing 22:33, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
So you'll just focus on that one part and ignore the point that BEING ABLE TO WRITE ON A GRAIN OF RICE WITH A MAGNIFYING GLASS DOES NOT MEAN YOU CAN WRITE SATISFACTORILY IN A SMALL NOTEBOOK WITHOUT A MAGNIFYING GLASS. That was my ONLY point and I didn't want to make a huge issue about it!
There's no need to yell, please be civil. Also, it does not mean that he wouldn't be able to write in a small notebook. That's why we don't understand your reasoning in the first place. Loafing 01:16, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I think I meant to use bold. Bold is better. Actually underline would have been best. And, uh, you have a point there. It's just that it doesn't mean he can either. It's like saying "if Strong Bad wanted those daisy dukes off his foot so badly, why didn't he use his diamond powers?" or something.

[edit] Closed STUFF

[edit] STUFF2O

SB2O refers to Fruit2O.

Posted on: 20:06, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Closed: 22:05, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was declined, 22–9. A proposed revision was also declined, 16-1. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/rough copy.

[edit] I've been STUFFing this fact since I was eight!

Strong Sad's line "I've been saving these in the freezer since I was eight!" (particularly the way he says it) is very similar to an early Bill Cosby comedy routine, in which Cosby had saved a snowball in the freezer to get revenge on one of his enemies.

Posted on: 22:22, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Closed: 22:05, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was declined, 32–16. A proposed revision was also declined, 22-1. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/rough copy.

[edit] Elementary, My Dear Watson

SB2O is a play on H2O, the formula for water. Sb is also the chemical symbol for the element Antimony.

Only voting on bold part.
Posted on: 22:40, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Closed: 02:49, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was swiftly and unanimously declined, 20–0. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/rough copy.

[edit] Why would Malinko get sued?

Why would Malikno get sued for drawing a fancomic of Strong Bad and the Cheat? There are thousands of fan comics and fan fiction of fictional characters from already-existing IPs, and it is likely that they have not been sued. Is the situation in this email just an exaggeration, or is it very similar to real life?? 19:18, 14 June 2007 (UTC)Anonymous

In my estimation, it's a grand exaggeration, based in a few cases where companies/creators have gone too far to 'protect' their copyrights. For example DC Comics used to threaten legal action against anyone who created a flying super-hero, saying that was a direct copy of Superman. Of course that's a few decades ago, but you get the point. So needless to say people can be overzealous. I remember the owner of (Mike Row) being sued successfully by Microsoft. The examples are plentiful for similar types of weird copyright/trademark lawsuits. Exaggeration, but based on rare true cases. → ☮y P Y'all biscuitheads! 23:33, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
It matters not. It's a cartoon, for Pete's sake. Nonsense is more often the rule than the exception in cartoons. Haven't you noticed? ~That Guy Over There (User talk:That Guy Over There) 05:15, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
in the original email sent to strong bad (never added to the sbemail) Malinko jokingly ended "please don't sue me!" or something to that degree.

[edit] Mercy Me!

I'm not adding it only because I'm certain it's not really a RWR, but when Strong Sad shouted "Mercy Me!" while getting pelted, was I the only one to think of the rock band? (Note to self: sign up on forum.) --TJDevil02

[edit] Rough Copies

Holy crap. i can't believe they dredged up the email i sent in something like 4 or even 5 years ago and made a toon of it. I feel so.......honored. If only i could resurect the ancient dinosaur that is the computer i used at the time, then i could actually show the Rough Copies to the world.

[edit] Cowboy Bebop

I was just watching this video at and one of the videos included [1]this, the opening sequence to the anime Cowboy Bebop and there's a striking resemblance to teh rough copy opening. thoughts?

[edit] Silhouette

When Strongbad makes noises while walking in silhouette it sounds like the noises Wario makes when jumproping in Wario Ware$

[edit] The Cheat and Me

I removed the remark that SB used incorrect grammar in saying "The Cheat and me." The phrase is used as the object of a preposition, so "me," and not "I," would be correct. 13:38, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

You are correct. — DeFender1031*Talk 13:40, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Settlemant

I'm way dumb. How is eating a candy bar the same as settling out of court? Up until now I just assumed it was random, but now I'm not so sure.

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