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=== Long Pants reference ===
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*Homestar isn't wearing anything other than what he usually wears. He shakes his leg showing that he's wearing pants, just like he insisted he did in "long pants".
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*Just because it is a reference to earlier in the same email, doesn't preclude it from being a reference to another email as well.
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* This is not a reference to "long pants".  It is a "reference" to Strong Bad's tip to "wear tight pants that accentuate all your suppleties".  And since a toon can't reference itself this is not an inside reference.
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* Homestar nearly quotes Strong Bad exactly from previously in the toon: "I'm wearin' tight pants so as to accentuate all my bubbleties!"  How can that be a reference to a different toon altogether?
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*Also, long pants isn't the first time they have mentioned Homestar's apperant lack of pants
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*The implication that Homestar's legs ARE pants, as implied by the leg shaking mentioned above, was brought up in long pants, and it's certainly not impossible TBC are bringing that up again.
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*Keep in mind that yes, Strong Bad ''did'' say to wear tight pants, but Homestar looks exactly like he always does. Homestar claims that his legs are pants, and because they don't have any obvious cuffs, would therefore have to be tight to begin with.
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* So every time Homestar mentions "pants", it is automatically a reference to [[long pants]]?
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**Good point. We don't call every time strong bad kicks the cheat a refrence to [[little animal]].
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***But we ''do'' point out the reference to the [[Kicking The Cheat|running gag]].
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*I will accept this if we revise it to "Homestar telling Marzipan he is wearing pants when he looks no different to normal is a reference to [[long pants]]."
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*If this stays in, ''maybe'' instead of saying it's a direct reference to [[long pants]], it should be called a running gag or something. They also mentioned Homestar's pants in [[Not the 100th Email!!!]] and [[monument]].
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**This is a good point. See: [[Homestar's Pants]]
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*I think tight pants ARE a running gag or at least an inside joke. Look in [[super powers]], [[Pom Pom]]'s character page, [[Because, It's Midnite (karaoke)]] and [[lady...ing]].
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*If the article on [[Homestar's Pants]] is accepted, then the fact would need to be revised as above. This revision would then automatically accepted as a [[:Category:Running Gags|running gag]]. If the article is ''not'' accepted, then this revision can be ignored. Any discussion would be at [[Talk:Homestar's Pants]].
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Long Pants reference

Homestar's mention that he's wearing pants is a reference to long pants.

From: lady...ing
Posted on: 20:51, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

  • Homestar isn't wearing anything other than what he usually wears. He shakes his leg showing that he's wearing pants, just like he insisted he did in "long pants".
  • Just because it is a reference to earlier in the same email, doesn't preclude it from being a reference to another email as well.

Arguments against:

  • This is not a reference to "long pants". It is a "reference" to Strong Bad's tip to "wear tight pants that accentuate all your suppleties". And since a toon can't reference itself this is not an inside reference.
  • Homestar nearly quotes Strong Bad exactly from previously in the toon: "I'm wearin' tight pants so as to accentuate all my bubbleties!" How can that be a reference to a different toon altogether?
  • Also, long pants isn't the first time they have mentioned Homestar's apperant lack of pants

Additional comments:

  • The implication that Homestar's legs ARE pants, as implied by the leg shaking mentioned above, was brought up in long pants, and it's certainly not impossible TBC are bringing that up again.
  • Keep in mind that yes, Strong Bad did say to wear tight pants, but Homestar looks exactly like he always does. Homestar claims that his legs are pants, and because they don't have any obvious cuffs, would therefore have to be tight to begin with.
  • So every time Homestar mentions "pants", it is automatically a reference to long pants?
    • Good point. We don't call every time strong bad kicks the cheat a refrence to little animal.
  • I will accept this if we revise it to "Homestar telling Marzipan he is wearing pants when he looks no different to normal is a reference to long pants."
  • If this stays in, maybe instead of saying it's a direct reference to long pants, it should be called a running gag or something. They also mentioned Homestar's pants in Not the 100th Email!!! and monument.
  • I think tight pants ARE a running gag or at least an inside joke. Look in super powers, Pom Pom's character page, Because, It's Midnite (karaoke) and lady...ing.


Votes to accept: Votes to decline:
  1. — It's dot com
  2. DorianGray
  3. Shadow Hog
  4. small_logo.pngUsername-talk
  5. Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif
  6. Point7Q
  7. Mikelx215
  8. ACupOfCoffee
  9. phlip TC
  10. — Elcool (talk)(contribs)
  11. TROGGA!
  12. —↑Darklinkskywalker|Talk_|i did this stuff_↓
  13. invisible robot fish
  14. --The Smoking Monkey
  15. Xeroc
  16. —FireBird|Talk
  17. Trey56
  18. Ppk01
  19. Kiwi
  1. bw
  2. User:Rogue Leader.sig
  3. Joshua
  4. GG Crono
  5. Norman rorqual
  6. aaronak

Proposed revision:

This is another reference to Homestar's Pants.
  • If the article on Homestar's Pants is accepted, then the fact would need to be revised as above. This revision would then automatically accepted as a running gag. If the article is not accepted, then this revision can be ignored. Any discussion would be at Talk:Homestar's Pants.

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Holy crap!

Although Strong Bad says "Holy crap" a lot in the flashback, he never actually used this phrase in Marshmallow's Last Stand.

From: lady...ing
Posted on: 01:53, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

  • The phrase wasn't used until A Jumping Jack Contest, which was in an entirely different style and time period.
  • personal favorites is not a true "way back" scene. It was after "Holy crap" was introduced in the newer styles.
  • The overuse of "Holy Crap" is from an entirely different "back then" era. The Luau era, to be exact.

Arguments against:

  • He did use it in the other "way back" scene from personal favorites.
  • MLS is not an era, just one toon. Not just that, but It's the first toon with voice acting, so it's natural that Strong Bad's personality wouldn't be fully developed.
  • They are simply parodying the fact that "back then" Strong Bad supposedly said the phrase a lot.
  • As the fact stands (after crossing stuff out), it doesn't seem particularly noteworthy.

Additional comments:

  • His "holy crap" overuse in the flashback would be accurate if it was showing something from "The Luau" era, when that phrase was overused.
  • Exactly what constitutes the "Marshmallow's Last Stand era"?
    • It's not exactly an era, but rather a toon, because the style was never really used again, except to mock the old style. Any modern appearances of it are "parodies," methinks.
  • Technically, neither "personal favourites" nor "lady...ing" are true "way back" scenes. They were both made long after the phrase was overused.
    • Yes, but they are still attempting to parody the MLS-style, which is pre-Holy Crap. Or perhaps, they may be parodying two different old styles at the same time, although they make it look like they are only parodying one.
  • Isn't this email also pre-SB-kicking-The-Cheat? I think there's no reason to be pedantic about these things.
    • Kicking The Cheat is from after-MLS period, but it makes sense in context of the toon and only appears once. Holy crap, however, is placed in several out-of-context areas for no reason than just to overuse it.
      • But Homestar was the first to kick The Cheat in the first book. I think it should be a running gag.
  • How 'bout remove the word "era"; there's no question that he doesn't use it that particular 'toon.
    • Seconded.. remove that word, it makes more sense. It may also be useful to note that he's saying 'Holy crap' a lot more in the flashback than he does nowadays, hence making it unusual.
      • NOTE: The word "era" has been crossed out from the fact. This is not being proposed as a full Revision because (1) it doesn't change the substance of the fact, and (2) it would be confusing given that the Accepts are currently leading. If anyone has a serious issue with this, leave a note here and we'll figure something else out.
  • Things like the old characters page still use the MLS design.


Votes to accept: Votes to decline:
  1. Joshua
  2. Dwedit
  3. Exhibit A
  4. arrow4.PNG~Rebecca~ RJMT speaker-noise.gif
  5. M4RZ1P4N
  6. Homsar999Talk
  7. djm1791
  8. Ppk01
  9. Tuquee
  10. — Elcool (talk)(contribs)
  11. --Mikelx215
  12. Ju Ju Master
  13. videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif
  14. Mithent
  15. Crystallina
  16. MegamanEXE
  17. BGG
  18. ACupOfCoffee
  19. phlip TC
  20. —↑Darklinkskywalker|Talk_|i did this stuff_↓
  21. Norman rorqual
  22. Xeroc
  23. --The Smoking Monkey
  24. BazookaJoe
  25. aaronak
  1. DorianGray
  2. Sox101
  3. TobyTheRobot
  4. tomstiff
  5. invisible robot fish
  6. DG
  7. —FireBird|Talk
  8. Trey56

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Ice Creme Fixation

This is the second instance where Strong Bad ends his email by saying that he wants ice cream. The first instance was kids' book.

From: lady...ing
Posted on: 16:40, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

  • This is a valid and interesting fact that lets the reader know that Strong Bad likes ice cream. This fact was deleted with the comment "removed a 'this is the nth time' item ..." but just a few lines above that is the comments that this is the first time that we see a close-up of the floppy disk container.
  • A statement, like at the end of kids' book, may seem insignificant at first. It's only when a second instance occurs that it becomes notable and interesting.
  • This has the beginnings of a running gag (see link below).

Arguments against:

  • The argument for says it all — it's a "this is the nth time" item (a "second"). The other item stated was a "first," which we usually acknowledge.
  • This shouldn't be considered a running gag just yet. So far it's only two unrelated incidents. If he does it a third time...

Additional comments:

  • When do we stop acknowledging events? The 2nd time? 3rd time? 17th time? The long-standing standard is that only 1st time events are acknowledged.
    • For something special: the 1st time; for something ordinary that is like one that was before it: 2nd time; something that was repeated a lot: consider an inside joke/running gag.
  • If it were a running gag, it would be noted, because we note them whenever they appear.
  • I think I have stumbled onto something. I did some more searching...admitedly because I was tired of getting my fun facts deleted all the time...and with the aid of the handy dandy search engine, I realize this already is a running gag. TBC must really like ice cream. Because I found more references, I am moving my own vote to decline. I need someone's help because I think this should get its own article an I don't know how to start one or where it should go.
    • Talk:Ice Cream — please join the discussion on whether this should be recognized as a full running gag.


Votes to accept: Votes to decline:
  1. DorianGray
  2. Ppk01
  1. Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif
  2. Trey56
  3. tomstiff
  4. invisible robot fish
  5. GG Crono
  6. — Elcool (talk)(contribs)
  7. BazookaJoe
  8. aaronak
  9. --The Smoking Monkey

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Anchorman Strong Bad?

Strong Bad's using of gasoline as cologne may be a reference to the movie Anchorman, in which Ron Burgundy tells Brian Fantana that his sex panther cologne "smells like pure gasoline."

From: lady...ing
Posted on: 15:50, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

  • The Bros. Chaps have been known to make all kinds of crazy references to all kinds of things, why not a Will Ferrell movie?

Arguments against:

  • Fantana's cologne is described by other people as more colorful things than just gasoline.
  • The "reference" is too vague.

Additional comments:

  • Even though Anchorman has been out for quite some time, it's still possible this is a reference to it.


Votes to accept: Votes to decline:
  1. Underdog45
  1. Sox101
  2. Jay (Gobble)
  3. Trey56
  4. DorianGray
  5. phlip TC
  6. — It's dot com
  7. tomstiff
  8. — Elcool (talk)(contribs)
  9. --The Smoking Monkey
  10. BazookaJoe
  11. aaronak
  12. Point7Q
  13. «Rob»
  14. Ppk01

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Broken Lappy Screen (Goofs)

While Strong Bad is sleeping at the end of the email (after he ducks out for the creme brulee ice creme), the Lappy's screen doesn't give the distortion effect it usually does when you click on it.

From: lady...ing
Posted on: 16:30, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

  • This also happened in bottom 10 and was mentioned there.

Arguments against:

Additional comments:


Votes to accept: Votes to decline:
  1. bkmlb
  2. DorianGray
  3. DG
  4. Tuquee
  5. MegamanEXE
  6. BGG
  7. Point7Q
  8. Joshua
  9. djm1791
  10. Andres92
  11. phlip TC
  12. arrow4.PNG~Rebecca~ RJMT speaker-noise.gif
  13. — Elcool (talk)(contribs)
  14. —↑Darklinkskywalker|Talk_|i did this stuff_↓
  15. invisible robot fish
  16. Norman rorqual
  17. Xeroc
  18. --The Smoking Monkey

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Bubble Teas?

Homestar's "bubbleties" is aurally identical to "Bubble tea," a fashionable drink involving chilled tea and large tapioca balls. Is this worth including in "Real-World References," even though by no stretch of the imagination could it be considered an outright allusion?

From: lady...ing
Posted on: 04:52, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

  • Um... Bubbleties. Bubble teas. It's worth noting, if people hadn't heard of bubble tea.

Arguments against:

  • "Real-World References" is supposed to be limited to "clear references," and this is certainly not that.
  • Homestar was just mispronouncing Strong Bad's phrase (which was mispronounced in itself).
  • If you need to ask if it is worth noting, it probably isn't.

Additional comments:

  • If all "Real-World References" were just "clear references," this wiki would have a lot less info.
  • If we've all done our jobs then it would have exactly the same amount of info. It's not a good idea to put sketchy info in just for the sake of having more info. Quality > Quantity.


Votes to accept: Votes to decline:
  1. notstrongorbad
  1. Sox101
  2. DorianGray
  3. TaranchulaVamp15
  4. M4RZ1P4N
  5. Jay (Gobble)
  6. Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif
  7. Homsar999Talk
  8. Ppk01
  9. — Elcool (talk)(contribs)
  10. tomstiff
  11. Ju Ju Master
  12. invisible robot fish
  13. — It's dot com
  14. videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif
  15. GG Crono
  16. Trey56
  17. DG
  18. Tuquee
  19. Mithent

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Suppleties

The word "suppleties" means "supplements" in Dutch.

From: lady...ing
Posted on: 06:54, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

Arguments against:

  • It's just Strong Bad mispronouncing "subtleties" with his old, bad accent.
  • This doesn't make much sense in context.

Additional comments:


Votes to accept: Votes to decline:
  1. Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif
  2. Homsar999Talk
  3. Ppk01
  4. — Elcool (talk)(contribs)
  5. tomstiff
  6. Ju Ju Master
  7. invisible robot fish
  8. — It's dot com
  9. videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif
  10. GG Crono
  11. Trey56
  12. DorianGray
  13. DG
  14. Mithent

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