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[edit] Out of line

The notebook paper in the frame of the toon and outside of the frame do not match up.

From: Teen Girl Squad Issue 11
Posted on: 19:55, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Arguments for:

  • Just take a look at the image in the issue 11 article to see this.
  • An error is no less an error just because it's small.

Arguments against:

  • It's only misaligned by a grand total of one pixel, which is hardly enough to call a goof given that they're lining up an image and not a vector object.

Additional comments:

  • It is not off by "a grand total of one pixel". Specifically, it is off by three pixels - one horizontally and two vertically. It's noticeable enough just by looking at it.
    • Well, one pixel in each dimension. (The vertical offset varies between 1 and 2 pixels. Call it 1½.)
      • See image to the right - looks like one pixel (of the original backdrop bitmap) to me...
  • This is a close call; while it's technically true, I'm not sure it's significant enough to call a goof. If we had a stnanks section I'd probably vote to accept.
    • I recommend this for the glitches section. Everything looks set up correctly in the Flash file; I'm betting it just has something to do with how the overlay is scaled.
  • The way the fun fact is written here give no indication of the minuteness of the goof. If we do keep this fact, it could use rewording, perhaps with a closeup image showing the exact nature of the problem.
  • Though I am accepting this Fact, I am accepting it as a Remark rather than a Goof. I question the certainty that this was somehow by accident, and suggest the possibility of it having been intentional, to give the frame a slightly embossed look. In any case, it is unfair and insulting to arbitrarily label something a goof when it may have been intentional.
    • TGS is a parody of comic strips drawn during school. Embossing frames is not common practice for this art form and would be out of style. Also, if the "embossing effect" was intentional, TBC would have used a more obvious offset than one pixel.
    • Assuming that something is a goof is in no way insulting.
      • Incorrect. As an example, if you were to write "You are teh awesome", then somebody came by and said you don't know how to spell, despite your claiming it was intentional, you'd probably start to get a little annoyed. However since it is correct early in the toon, as pointed out below, I withdraw my vote of it being intentional, and accept it as a goof.
        • Pointing out a goof is not like saying someone doesn't know how to do things. It merely means that someone made a mistake. There's no insult in that. Also, if the majority of your audience assumes you made a mistake when you did something on purpose, then you either didn't communicate it well or the audience doesn't have enough inside knowledge. There's no insult in that either.
      • Agreed. Everyone makes misteaks. ;)
      • Disagree. Looking at the Flash file, I think they tried to get this right but something just got skewed somewhere, which would make it a glitch. I don't think this was intentional, either, because the frames at the beginning of the toon and during the introductions line up fine.
  • See A Folky Tale → Goofs for a precedent for being as nitpicky as this. See also Are Infintesimally Small Imperfections Really Goofs? for important related discussion.
    • That goof was never voted on, correct? (At least, I couldn't find it in the archives.) If it was never STUFFed, then I'm a little hesitant to use it as strong precendent. Nevertheless, the fact at hand is well on its way to being accepted, which will be precedent in and of itself.


Votes to accept: Votes to decline:
  1. Jay o'Lantern (Haunt)
  2. videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif
  3.  Loafing
  4. It's dot com
  5. The Dang, Pom Pom, you see that? That's a nice golbol. Talk to me.
  6. Dagger (talk · edits)
  7. Thunderbird
  8. Bantam-Boy
  9. Heimstern Läufer
  10. SaltyTalk!
  11. Jeppo
  12. Pieinbubsface (t)
  13. YKHi. I'm Ayjo!
  14. DorianGray
  15. Alcnolien Has Spoken!
  16. Ppk01
  17. Bantam-Boy
  18. Trelawney
  19. Point7Q
  20. TheThin
  21. H*Bad
  22. Libertyernie
  23. The Chort
  24. Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing!
  25. Image:Stinkwing.gif »Bleed0range«
  1. Lapper (talk)
  2. Elcool (talk)(contribs)
  3. Brittany
  4. Trey56
  5. — Kilroy / talk
  6. H*Bad
  7. Cessna Man!
  8. D2htornado
  9. Mycroft Holmes

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[edit] Not Quite The Right Voice

In the beginning, Cheerleader's voice is not even close to how it usually sounds. This could be due to how long it was since Issue 10 was made.

From: Teen Girl Squad Issue 11
Posted on: 16:33, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Arguments for:

Arguments against:

  • Cheerleader sounds just like she does in the last few Teen Girl Squads.
  • If this is referring to the "Cheerleader! So and So!" intro, which is unclear, it is not re-recorded for each issue (except Teen Girl Squad Issue 10). The current TGS voices are much higher than they were in the first issue.
  • The Cheerleader's pitch in her "Don't look now, ladies..." speech might be a bit lower than usual, but it's still very close to usual.

Additional comments:

  • This fact does not make any sense.


Votes to accept: Votes to decline:
  1. The Chort
  2. Jay o'Lantern (Haunt)
  3. H*Bad
  4. Elcool (talk)(contribs)
  5.  Loafing
  6. Mycroft Holmes
  7. DorianGray
  8. Lapper (talk)
  9. Heimstern Läufer
  10. BazookaJoe
  11. Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing!
  12. Jeppo

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[edit] You my wingman

In this context, a wingman is a person who assists a friend in approaching a member of the opposite sex.

From: Teen Girl Squad Issue 11
Posted on: 14:49, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Arguments for:

  • It fits the context like a glove.
  • The term isn't exactly common knowledge for many.
  • It might've confused a lot of people.

Arguments against:

Additional comments:

  • I don't think this needs a proposed revision at this point, but I would prefer the wording "A wingman can refer to a person who assists a friend in approaching a member of the opposite sex.", since the far more commonly understood meaning of "a wingman" would refer to somebody flying alongside you in your squadron of fighter planes. I would also be fine with something like "In this context, a wingman refers to a person who assists a friend in approaching a member of the opposite sex." Any reasonable objections?
    • I second that. This is not the original meaning of "wingman", so I would prefer these suggestions.
      • I went ahead and added "in this context" above (although I don't truly believe this is necessary, given that there is a big link that can be clicked if someone's confused). The verb "is" should not be watered down though.


Votes to accept: Votes to decline:
  1. Crystallina
  2. --TheThin
  3. Trey56
  4.  Loafing
  5. Lordignus
  6. Thunderbird
  7. The Chort
  8. DorianGray
  9. Bantam-Boy
  10. User:The Mu/Sig
  11. H*Bad
  12. Elcool (talk)(contribs)
  13. Lapper (talk)
  14. Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing!

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[edit] Braves Win! Braves Win!

The page title "11 Division Titles!" likely refers to the Atlanta Braves, who, at the time of the toon, had won 11 consecutive division titles.

From: Teen Girl Squad Issue 11
Posted on: 16:56, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Arguments for:

  • The Braves have been mentioned various times by the Brothers Chaps (who live in the greater Atlanta area) in commentaries and, of course, with the various Lemke sightings.
  • There is a baseball stadium featured in this issue (complete with a double play).

Arguments against:

Additional comments:

  • The 11 consecutive seasons stretch back to 1995. The 1994 season was cut short by the strike, and the Braves were in second place at the time the season was canceled.


Votes to accept: Votes to decline:
  1. The Chessman
  2. I R F
  3. Jnelson09
  4. It's dot com
  5. Elcool (talk)(contribs)
  6. Rogue Leader / (my talk)
  7. Joshua
  8. Ppk01
  9. CaptainPhlegmatic
  10. Lapper (talk)
  11. Brittany
  12.  Loafing
  13. videlectrix.pngENUSY discussionitem_icon.gif user.gifmail_icon.gif
  14. SaltyTalk!
  15. YKHi. I'm Ayjo!
  16. TheGreatLogini
  17. Geshmalder
  18. — Kilroy / talk
  19. Image:Homsar-in-motion.gifHomsar7(Hom · Sar)Image:Homsar-in-motion.gif
  20. H*Bad
  21. Bantam-Boy
  1. Heimstern Läufer

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