[edit] Out of line
The notebook paper in the frame of the toon and outside of the frame do not match up.
From: Teen Girl Squad Issue 11
Posted on: 19:55, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Arguments for:
- Just take a look at the image in the issue 11 article to see this.
- An error is no less an error just because it's small.
Arguments against:
- It's only misaligned by a grand total of one pixel, which is hardly enough to call a goof given that they're lining up an image and not a vector object.
Additional comments:
- It is not off by "a grand total of one pixel". Specifically, it is off by three pixels - one horizontally and two vertically. It's noticeable enough just by looking at it.
- Well, one pixel in each dimension. (The vertical offset varies between 1 and 2 pixels. Call it 1½.)
- See image to the right - looks like one pixel (of the original backdrop bitmap) to me...
- This is a close call; while it's technically true, I'm not sure it's significant enough to call a goof. If we had a stnanks section I'd probably vote to accept.
- I recommend this for the glitches section. Everything looks set up correctly in the Flash file; I'm betting it just has something to do with how the overlay is scaled.
- The way the fun fact is written here give no indication of the minuteness of the goof. If we do keep this fact, it could use rewording, perhaps with a closeup image showing the exact nature of the problem.
- Though I am accepting this Fact, I am accepting it as a Remark rather than a Goof. I question the certainty that this was somehow by accident, and suggest the possibility of it having been intentional, to give the frame a slightly embossed look. In any case, it is unfair and insulting to arbitrarily label something a goof when it may have been intentional.
- TGS is a parody of comic strips drawn during school. Embossing frames is not common practice for this art form and would be out of style. Also, if the "embossing effect" was intentional, TBC would have used a more obvious offset than one pixel.
- Assuming that something is a goof is in no way insulting.
- Incorrect. As an example, if you were to write "You are teh awesome", then somebody came by and said you don't know how to spell, despite your claiming it was intentional, you'd probably start to get a little annoyed. However since it is correct early in the toon, as pointed out below, I withdraw my vote of it being intentional, and accept it as a goof.
- Pointing out a goof is not like saying someone doesn't know how to do things. It merely means that someone made a mistake. There's no insult in that. Also, if the majority of your audience assumes you made a mistake when you did something on purpose, then you either didn't communicate it well or the audience doesn't have enough inside knowledge. There's no insult in that either.
- Agreed. Everyone makes misteaks. ;)
- Disagree. Looking at the Flash file, I think they tried to get this right but something just got skewed somewhere, which would make it a glitch. I don't think this was intentional, either, because the frames at the beginning of the toon and during the introductions line up fine.
- See A Folky Tale → Goofs for a precedent for being as nitpicky as this. See also Are Infintesimally Small Imperfections Really Goofs? for important related discussion.
- That goof was never voted on, correct? (At least, I couldn't find it in the archives.) If it was never STUFFed, then I'm a little hesitant to use it as strong precendent. Nevertheless, the fact at hand is well on its way to being accepted, which will be precedent in and of itself.
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