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the next epi-snowed

I added that fun fact because it is a little odd that Blue Laser would tell his minion to add something that has already been added, especially since Blue Laser appears to be staring at the list as he says it. I would think this merits some fun fact-ness. —Guard Duck talk 22:23, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

It's been added and removed a couple of times, and is on the talk page without much response. I personally think that something that obvious isn't notable, that's all. You are right, i should have been a bit descriptive in my summary. (Also thank you, my talk page is no longer lonely.) — Defender1031*Talk 22:31, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Happy 8600

If the template IS on the page, shouldn't we link to it? Why aren't the TD and iMac onthere, either? -- Lazylaces Talk 14:45, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

This is not the place for this discussion. They are not on there because they are not strong bad's nor has he ever used them to check an email of his... actually, on second thought, he DID use TG once... so perhaps that one should be... i don't know, why not start a thread on the talk page for that template, as in, not here. — Defender1031*Talk 17:46, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Good user

Would I be qualified as a good user? I know I don't do much, but I try to make articles and Images better... MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif

Everybody is a good user! We all do something to help the wiki as long as you're editing, I like to think. Acam30 12:30, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Do I qualify? BBG 02:01, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Of course! :] MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif

You deserve this. —Mas12806 (talk·contribs) 03:45, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. — Defender1031*Talk 03:49, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

You deserve this. You earned it, so hang it on your talk page in honor! MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 16:26, 7 December 2008 (UTC)


Sorry that I was mad at you at the talk page. I hadn't exactly realized what you were doing. Sorry. Thanks! —Mas12806 (talk·contribs) 22:44, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Not a problem. I understood that you were unaware of the proper way to move an article. — Defender1031*Talk 22:48, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


Will you umm... make me a... halloween sig? Acam30 01:25, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

I can try, but my sig is very simple, just a gradient. All i did was change the colors of it. In truth, i'm pretty bad at sig-making. I would probably temporarily make homsar in orange on a black background and do something with the letters and those colors. — Defender1031*Talk 01:38, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
I can help with the image, if I'm not stepping on anyone's toes here.. (a pink pool of blood, perhaps?) ;) OptimisticFool 01:45, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm already in the process of uploading... some of the edges are a bit off, but i expect it won't matter in the 20px size anyway. — Defender1031*Talk 01:49, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Ooh okay. Coolio! Opty... for the image I was thinking maybe HOmsar dressed as Slash? Acam30 01:51, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
In that case, i'll let opty handle the image. (I suggest re-uploading over the existing Image:HomsarInPink.png so that it doesn't use another PI page for Acam, as well as so that that part of the sig doesn't need changing.) — Defender1031*Talk 01:55, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Done. OptimisticFool 02:17, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps it'd look better if you gave him an orange shirt? — Defender1031*Talk 02:19, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
I don't know. Orange and black aren't the only colors that would look Halloweenish. But here's what he looks like at full size and as part of the sig:
Acam30 orangeslash20pxva7.png
Acam, your thoughts? OptimisticFool 02:38, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
YAAAAAY!!! Thanks guys! Me likey! Acam30 11:33, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Do you prefer the blue- or the orange-shirted Homsar-as-Slash? OptimisticFool 17:02, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Blue is grood. I likes it! Acam30 11:22, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


DeFender, you need to be a sysop. I'm surprised that no one else has made you one yet. You would make an awesome one! MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 11:40, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Wait, DeFender's not a sysop?! I'm speechless here, honestly! I agree, he needs to be one! -- 02:28, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Truthfully now, I wouldn't mind him to die in a hole. 19:32, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Wha... why?! What'd Deffy do this time? Acam30 19:34, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
He didn't die. 19:35, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
I assure you, i'm dead on the inside. Seriously, let's not do this here. — Defender1031*Talk 19:37, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Actually, I agree with Acam. He needs to live and live as an admin, now that I think about it... =370.148.111.10 19:47, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Your Pic

Defender, the Fire in your pic kinda looks like The Cheat is on Fire... a very crude The Cheat that is. :P --Wi2K Talk-Favorites-173 16:01, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

To me it looks more like a dinosaur smoking a cigarette... — Defender1031*Talk 16:06, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Your sig pic

Do you want me to possibly remove the background? Just wondering, I'm bored and have photoshop and need to do something productive. -- Lazylaces Talk 12:40, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

No thanks. I don't feel like wasting a personal image and wiki server space on a one-time holiday sig. — Defender1031*Talk 15:48, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


How do you write scripts? Like to do a gradient comment. Where do I go? What do I do? MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 00:00, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean by "comment". But the script i wrote to do gradients is in C++. I've spent nearly 4 years studying programming, which is how i know how to write scripts. I don't know where to tell you to begin. — Defender1031*Talk 00:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


Bee day!

Well, not where I am, but in Israel I guess it is. Here's a card I made you:
Your pal, Homestar-Winner (talk) 22:53, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, that's just Danday! Loafing 23:49, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
"Congratulations, Daniel on your 2008 Birthday! ...I'm MichaelXX2!" "Uh, I think it says that in the sig, Mikey." "Well I didn't know that!" MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 12:13, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

aww, crap, someone beat me to it. and mike beat me to it. happy birthday, halloween and dia de los muertos to you, defender. and, as a special treat, and to incluse a homestar reference.......

  • ahem*

sweet sweet deffy,

today is the day on your fake ID,

so get upstairs,


and fix me some Dinner (because it's five here)

now go answer some emails and your birthday gift from me is done

happy Birthday, Dan Foodeater!

from HSB150Homsarstrongbad150Homestar Runner!! 21:01, 31 October 2008 (UTC) and all of hrwiki (probably)


Acam30 00:28, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Quick Question

Hey! I just have a quick question. How do you submit fanstuff? I searched it, but I just got a link to a page that didn't do anything. I don't know if you know or not, but I thought it was worth a shot. Tigerstripe 21:58, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

I really don't know, having never done so myself. I assume it's as simple as sending a picture of it in an email to TBC, but i really don't know. Phlip once got his thing featured, why not try asking him? — Defender1031*Talk 23:47, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
You could always just Email TBC. Loafing 23:55, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

irc problem

hey, dan. i got disconnected and when i try to go back in, it says my nick is in use and doesn't let me in. any way around this? or do i need to wait? HSB150Homsarstrongbad150Homestar Runner!! 23:43, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

nevermind. i'm back in HSB150Homsarstrongbad150Homestar Runner!! 23:45, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

my mentor...

I'm probably thinkin' you're my mentor and all. I could nominate you for sysop abilities, but keep up the good work. --The 386 My talk 20:11, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. — Defender1031*Talk 20:17, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


Hi DeFender1031, It's Mas12806. I was meaning to ask you, how do you make a redirect? I wasn't exactly comfortable asking an admin, and I needed to know how so I could keep the Wiki moving. And your welcome for the Brunswick Stew! Thanks! —Mas12806 (talk·contribs) 02:34, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

You create a page with the content #REDIRECT [[Target Pagename]] — Defender1031*Talk 02:41, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

I knew that way, but when I tried that, it came out as this instead as a regular redirect:

  1. REDIRECT Homestar Runner

And a regular redirect page looks like this. Thanks! —Mas12806 (talk·contribs) 03:00, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! —Mas12806 (talk·contribs) 03:00, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

What do you mean by a "regular redirect"? what kind of redirect do you want? — Defender1031*Talk 03:37, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Did you put a space between the "#" and the word "REDIRECT"? That would cause the redirect not to work. Homestar-Winner (talk) 03:39, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Note that when you preview a redirect page, that's how it'll look. When you actually submit, the MediaWiki software does its magic, and it turns into a proper redirect page. --Belthazar 03:49, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Now I understand everything. Thanks DeFender1031, Homestar-winner, and Belthazar. A new redirect I did: The Brothers Chaps Office. Thanks! —Mas12806 (talk·contribs) 13:04, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Could you set me up with a Sig?

homsarstrongbad150 sent me to you if I wanted a sig and colourful username, could you tell me how to do it? ALJ123456

You may want to start here and here. — Defender1031*Talk 20:01, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey DeFender, I have a sig but can you blend some colurs together plz? like green and black and whatever else? It would be a big help. thx. also, could you show me how to make it show up whenever i do --~~~~? At the moment i just paste in the code. zee you nezz tim! Open Source Greg(talk · edits)
I kind of need you to be a bit more specific about what you want. And as for making it work with the tildes, go to your preferences, set your signature to be "{{User:Open Source Greg/sig}}", and make sure the "Raw signatures (without automatic link)" box is checked, and then save. That should do it. — Defender1031*Talk 18:02, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
wow, thx. I guess my sig is good enough. Open Source Greg 00:44, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Would you suggest changing my sig at holidays, or my birthday? OpenSourceGreg 00:54, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
I like to. But it's totally up to you. If you're like me, you'll just bug smart peoples like Deffy here to make you one whenever a holiday rolls around. Acam30 03:30, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
And if you're REALLY smart, and your name is Acam30, you go online while you're editing to say hi every so often... — Defender1031*Talk 03:32, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Actually, Acam30, I wasn't suggesting he make me one for holidays/birthdays, I was asking if it was a good idea to change it for holidays/birthdays. Also, could anyone tell me how to blend colours together in your sig? Thanks. OpenSourceGreg 04:06, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
The color blend thing is a script i wrote that is currently available only to me, that i intend to re-write at some point to make it web-based so that anyone can have access to it. At the moment, you need to tell me exactly what colors you want and what the text should be, and i can do it. — Defender1031*Talk 04:11, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Basically, I just want to have one color blend for the whole year, and change the pictures to match that time of year. The color blend I want is dark green --> light green --> white/light grey. Do you think you could help me? OpenSourceGreg 10:18, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Also, I want a thicker font. OpenSourceGreg 10:26, 5 April 2009 (UTC) Sorry if this is too much, but I feel the better the sig, the better the user
Never mind the font, I figured that out :) OpenSourceGreg 10:43, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Do you think you could help me with the color blend by the 8th of april? because that's my birthday? OpenSourceGreg 09:45, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

"then why did you delete this too?"

If you really want to know, it's because I'm using the Wii to edit again. (my Lappy's battery doesn't charge) BBG 02:28, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

DVD transcripts

I did the commentary transcripts for coloring and trading cards, but they probably weren't completely accurate. Can you take a look at them both, please, and fix them both if you can? Thanks. MHarrington 00:50, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

What makes you think that i have the DVDs? — Defender1031*Talk 01:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
I've seen your scripting for the keep cool, which is on the same DVD as the two emails I did, so I figured you might be able to help. MHarrington 01:05, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Whoops. My mistake, it was The Pizz who had done the keep cool email. MHarrington 01:10, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Sandbox problems

I checked the sandbox it it was all weird. there were blue boxes and black boxes covering everything. Can you try to change it back?Luis123Luis123Luis123 02:36, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Apparently I'm Not Helping

I have recently been charged with not helping when I post on the wiki.

Where I come from, teaching people to learn the meanings of phrases before they use them IS contributing - To society and education. Where I'm from, education is paramount and stops you becoming a retarded txt speaker and McDonalds employee. — (Talk | contribs) {{{2}}} (left unsigned)

Anonny, your edits were not constructive but disruptive. Your tone was confrontational, and your edits belonged on the talk page, not on the actual article. If you have any criticism on what should be in articles and what should not be, then please use the talk page to voice your concerns. In a civilised manner. Thank you. Loafing 19:30, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

user boxs

you used when you discovered hrwiki twice

Thanks, but it's not. One is when i discovered the site itself, the other is when i discovered this wiki. — Defender1031*Talk 23:50, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
I was wondering about that, thanks for the tip on my user page. Platinum789hi

Pi revert

concerning this edit
Can you please give me a reason why you think it is not a stretch? Homestar-Winner (talk) 11:59, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

They picked those numbers and dates. They have been known to stick in references to pi in subtle places. It stands to reason that they purposely picked these to reflect pi. — Defender1031*Talk 12:10, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Why come

okay, sorry, I didn't know about that page.

nothing to apologize for. — Defender1031*Talk 18:57, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
oh. well then i guess i made ur bottom ten

Bottom 10

I saw your bottom 10 and I am sorry. --Blow Up the Ocean 21:23, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Hahahahaha, it took me a second, i was about to write "for what?" when i realized.... — Defender1031*Talk 21:26, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
I was going to write your opinions are total crap, but I thought that wouldn't be nice. --Blow Up the Ocean 21:30, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
That is correct. That wouldn't be nice... But since you didn't actually say it, it makes it totally fine to say that you WOULD HAVE said it. — Defender1031*Talk 21:46, 20 January 2009 (UTC)


Hey man! Thanks for fixing my page along with It's Dot Com. I've been trying to do that ever since I signed up! With Lots of Crap, Record307 01:33, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Any time bro, glad i could help. — Defender1031*Talk 01:33, 21 January 2009 (UTC)


Hey, I've created a new template at Template:Talkheader. I was wondering if you were any good at Wiki code, because I'm having three issues with it. Once the box is finished, I'd like to customize it to the Homestar Runner Wiki. Also, if this is redundant, let me know. Son 16:35, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey there, i'm actually curious what all these templates you're creating are for. We tend not to create templates without extensive discussion. I get the talkheader one, but not the others. (Also, there's better ways to put headers on all pages of a namespace than templates, and such a thing is best left up to the site developers.) — Defender1031*Talk 16:36, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for tagging those. I wholesale copied the Talkheader template from Wikipedia. In the process, it had these other templates layered in it. In my tired idiocracy, I tried to build those as well. It was becoming hopelessly complicated. At that point, I at least moved them into my userspace, though it's probably a lot simpler to just delete those in the first place. I thought that perhaps a talkheader would be a nice improvement to the site. I probably should have put in a request some where. If that's the case, I'll keep that in mind for the future. Son 16:47, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Well, i can tag the remaining ones in your user space for deletion if you want. As for the talk page header, we already have something sort of like it, {{talk}}. It might be worth expanding and seeing if the devs want to have mediawiki automatically add it to the top of every talk page. I certainly would support the idea, your template makes it very clear what talk pages are for, and it might be good to have a short list of talk page rules there. I think i'll bring it up with the devs and get back to you on it. — Defender1031*Talk 16:52, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, that sounds good. I appreciate your help! Son 16:55, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Anytime. And let me officially welcome you to the wiki. I notice you joined over a year ago, but didn't do much at the time and never got properly welcomed.
Thank you! I appreciate your welcome to the Wiki! Son 17:05, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


I looked up what < tt > means... From Wikipedia: An HTML element for teletype or a monospace font family, e.g. monospace. I'm guessing it's something that standardizes fonts if people use different skins in their preferences.

Hope this was of interest to you. It was to me when I saw you wondered (what I'm sure was probably more rhetorical than less...), so I looked it up. Thought I'd spread the word! Son 18:36, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. It was unnecessary where it was anyway, also i think that these days it's been obsoleted in favor of more standardized css. — Defender1031*Talk 18:56, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


Hey dude, one question. You wouldn't mind if you could send me pages that need images, I'll be happy to supply one! I mean you don't have to do it every day but, just tell me pages that are in DIRE need of images. Asking for a favor, Record307 23:09, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually, you can see that yourself if you visit the Articles Needing Images category. --DorianGray 23:13, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


DUDE YOU ARE A SAVIOR! THANK YOU SOOOOOOOOOO MUCH. I FINALLY HAVE A SIG! Just one question... How to I use my sig?--Record307 Talk/Contribs 01:15, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Look in your preferences under "signature", and paste {{User:Record307/sig}} into the box. Make sure to check the little box for a raw signature. Cheers, MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 01:06, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Did you follow my link at all? MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 01:11, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Yeah see Record307 Talk/Contribs 01:14, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Awesome, man. Just, awesome. MichaelXX2 mail_icon.gif link_icon.gif 01:38, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Side note to it acceptable to use a signature icon of someone's who hasn't been active on the site in over a year? Son 05:06, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm afraid you'll have to be a bit more specific. — Defender1031*Talk 05:11, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
I saw a user who's been inactive since November 2007 (methinks) with a Steal Your Face. I left a note on the user's talk page, so you can check in my recent contributions to see it. I'd like to use it, if that's considered kosher. Son 05:22, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Cricket Helmet

Hi, I dunno if you saw it, but I was hoping you could clarify your answer on the image talk page. - 15:42, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

The recent block warning

I can't tell any change between the post you did and the way MichaelXX2 "fixed" it for you. Can you explain the difference, just for the sake of someone unfamiliar with wiki syntax? - 23:44, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Sure. when putting "subst:" before a template, it will replace, or SUBSTitute, the template call for the actual code contained therein. For example, if i have a template named "example" that contains "This is a sample template", if i were to write "{{example}}" somewhere, then when i go to edit the page, it'll still say "{{example}}" in that spot on the edit page. If i wrote "{{subst:example}}" instead, it would instead have "This is a sample template" written. Outwardly, the pages would look identical, only in the code does it matter. I hope that answers your question, cause i don't know how to make it any clearer. — Defender1031*Talk 23:51, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
That was clear, thanks a lot. - 23:55, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
What I don't get is why you reverted it, considering that using "subst" is Wiki policy. --Jay (Talk) 23:54, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Feel free to ask me privately. And i don't consider that instruction sheet to be "policy". — Defender1031*Talk 23:56, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Actually, reverting it myself was my mistake. Looking back on it, you're not supposed to edit people's talk page posts unless they're breaking the page, contain foul language, or similar. --Jay (Talk) 00:18, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank youuu

I saw that crappy and unfunny vandalism that somebody did on a certain page. Thanx for reverting it. THAT was just an eyesore. If somebody's gonna vandalize the least they can do is make irt clever and funny. --Sonicstar Runner 23:49, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

That's my job, defending the wiki, defending the policies of the wiki, defending my friends, defending my family, defending good programming practices... But i guess now i'm just rambling... Sooo.... yeah. Vandals: 0 DeFender: 1031 23:57, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

kinda funny...

Do the proximity of these three edits seem a little ironic to you..? -

I'm unsure of the connection you're trying to make... and by "unsure" i really mean "no freaking clue". — Defender1031*Talk 01:36, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Just that you accused the edit summary of "No" of being vague. - 02:01, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
You are correct of course, i'm guilty of it too. I wasn't complaining about the summary per se, i was just asking for a clarification. Everyone makes vague summaries sometimes... — Defender1031*Talk 02:13, 11 February 2009 (UTC)


You have won a triple Lappy email praising/Teen Girl Squad/Cheat Commandos award!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry if the Cheat Commandos image is too small.


This is the award.

Different opinion

Yeah, so I thought I made a valuable contribution to the Homestar email toon article, I even went through the legwork of doing the necessary research to make everything authentic. Boy was I cheesed off to see it deleted within seconds! It took me a few days to do the trackdown, and it pointed to you. I was REALLY cheesed off until I went to your home page, and then I saw why you deleted said additions. I thought my contributions were significant. Heck, I never write ANYTHING online without first considering if it will be worthwhile or just internet poop, whether this note be a Facebook note or a blog. But after reading your page on what you think good content is, especially regarding pop culture references, I understood why you removed them. Yes, I will stand by my post. I still think it was important information. But I've had limited exposure to pop culture as a whole, so it's likely that the information I supplied could be found in a hundred places. And you feel that a reference to a concept (a reference that can come from a dozen sources) is unnecessary to mention. I agree. It just hurt to see my first post wiped out in seconds. --Bauerman24 04:18, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure what edit you're referring to, as you seem to have not made any edits with your account before this one, but i assure you that i meant no offense by reverting. For a long time I've said that we need a mechanism to revert edits while still letting people know that their contributions are welcome, but unfortunately such a thing would be tedious and annoying to do, as we often get anonymous users who make one-time edits that aren't worth keeping. But anyway, would you mind clarifying to which edit you are referring? Whatever it is, i'd be glad to discuss it. — Defender1031*Talk 04:39, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

I did the edit before I had a real account, so I just showed up as an IP [I KNEW you were going to look! haha]. The address WAS Probably the last one, but I don't know how to link to the history page or anything. I'm still new to this whole "edit-a-wiki" thing.

Like I said, I read why you remove posts like mine [even though I didn't know I was referring to common phenomena at the time]. I can't stand wasteful or poorly-written posts. I've edited a fair share of run-on sentence posts. So, thank you for keeping your wiki cleaned up and informative. These things can get bloated with junk fast.

Thanks for being understanding about it. I don't expect to see my work back up. In fact, I'd prefer it stay down, in the interest of an accurate, more concise wiki. Again, thanks for understanding and reading my concerns. I only hope that I can contribute some useful information to this wiki in the future. --Bauerman24 04:55, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

strong sad

Make a Strong Sad fanstuffy thing! "Each day we die a little more" is awesome! --Fangoriously 05:15, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

I sorta got to a point in my life where i actually HAVE a life, so i haven't done any of those for a while... I had nearly forgotten about them actually. At one point i was planning on doing some of my favorite extended monologues and quotes with them, but unfortunately, life intruded. — Defender1031*Talk 18:54, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


How did you get your signature to be that cool? --Fangoriously 15:56, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

He's awesome like that.-Record307 Talk/Contribs 16:35, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Which aspect specifically? — Defender1031*Talk 18:57, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
I want the gradient affect like in your siggy. --Fangoriously! Chat 19:47, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
I have a script that i wrote that does it. If you tell me the colors you want and what text to use, i can generate a code for you. — Defender1031*Talk 20:21, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
I want pink to purple, with the text "Fangoriously!" My talk page link ("Chat") can just be red. --Fangoriously! Chat 00:39, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
You used a script? Dang, I had to go Google and search for all the HTML color codes individually... —Guard Duck talk 00:48, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
For Fangoriously: How's this? Fangoriously! (Chat) Personally i think the pink is too light at the beginning, so here it is again starting with dark pink. Fangoriously! (Chat) Which do you like better?
For Guard Duck: I WROTE a script. Slightly different than merely using one. I am just THAT good. Seriously though, color codes aren't that hard to learn. Also, don't feel so bad. I did all the color calculations BY HAND for the first attempt at my sig, until i realized how helpful a script would be. I should really re-write it though, because though the code works and works perfectly, it's very messy code. Ideally, i should port it to javascript or something to make it available online. — Defender1031*Talk 00:57, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
You WROTE a script, well that's very impressive. Kudos to you for always being one step ahead. (Incredibly weak Homestar pun alert) —Guard Duck talk 01:13, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Can you write me a sig? I'll try to give you an award for it!-Espe Pwnage 21:31, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Behind the black

You say what happens behind the black stays behind the black. In Flash file world, which is where the toons really are, what happens "behind the black" that you see in the Flash file but not on the HTML page is really in the beautiful field of white. --FangoriouslyFotoshopStar.png 00:09, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say. — Defender1031*Talk 10:56, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm trying to say the toons are really only Flash files, and what you see in the Flash file but not on the HTML page is in the white, not behind the black. --FangoriouslyFotoshopStar.png 13:32, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Cute, but homestar says differently in flashback. But whatever you want to call it, the rule on the wiki is that we don't note "goofs" that are outside the frame and therefore don't appear in the html file, whatever you want to call it. — Defender1031*Talk 14:57, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Think of this another way. All the articles are written from the perspective of the html file, not the flash file. If something odd occurs "behind the black", it will not be visible when the html file is viewed and is therefore not a goof. Simply put, there's no reason whatsoever for the TBC to animate things that won't be seen in the html file anyway. So to avoid creating extra pointless work for themselves, they take shortcuts, like not bothering to put Strong Mad's mouth or Strong Bad's legs in. They are deliberate ommisions, not goofs, which is why we don't mention them unless they are very unusual. Also, you're not supposed to be watching the flash file anyway. – The Chort 18:44, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
I am still wondering why they put in a RED MARK during Theme Song Video's Flash file at the pool scene. --FangoriouslyFotoshopStar.png 21:46, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Regardless of the reason why there happens to red mark offscreen, it is still nonetheless too mundane to be worth mentioning in the article. – The Chort 18:06, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

No Longer Useful Images

Is it OK if I go through Unused Images and add not useful images to User:DeFender1031/ISC/No Longer Useful for you? I'll even try to update templates used on the images themselves and on the lists linked from User:DeFender1031/ISC. Although I was once told by It's Dot Com that "we don't delete images simply because they're not being used", but this just seems like being lazy to me. I mean, if they're never going used ever again, what's the point in keeping them? – The Chort 13:24, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, that's exactly the point of that page... i was gonna wait till it was fuller before calling too much attention to it. Anyway, the point is to put images that are unused AND in no way homestar-related, not just unused as those could have a concievable use in the future. I wouldn't mind you adding images such as those there, just please keep them in alphabetical order. — Defender1031*Talk 13:32, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
You're marking things as done when they are still missing headers and stuff... The point of this project is to clean up the summaries of image pages, not to get rid of abandoned personal images, that's the side point. Changing personal images to abandoned personal images is not part of this project at all. To clarify, I don't mind pages that have not been cleaned up and given good summaries and headers being put on the no longer useful page, i DO mind pages that have not been cleaned up and given good summaries and headers being marked as done. — Defender1031*Talk 13:47, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Yikes, I've really screwed up this time. Ok, maybe I should just stick to compiling the list of No Longer Useful Images and leave everything else alone? – The Chort 14:05, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
It's alright, no biggie. If you want to cleanup the pages as you go on, that's fine with me, just make sure you're actually doing it. This was actually helpful, as it showed me that i wasn't descriptive enough when talking about what this project entails. I'm gonna add a checklist to the page that should help. — Defender1031*Talk 14:09, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
I've just remembered, this wiki already has a list of abandoned personal images that probably have no use whatsoever to the wiki. This page does pretty much exactly the same thing as No Longer Useful, except it shows you the images themselves and works automatically thanks to the personal-image-abandoned template. Would it be easier just to use that page? – The Chort 14:16, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm aware of that page, however my page is slightly different. While there is much overlap, not all abandoned personal images are no longer useful (some could be screenshots from HR, which we should keep) and not all no longer useful images are abandoned personal images (such as if something similar to Image:bat-climb.jpg were left over somewhere). — Defender1031*Talk 14:19, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


I did it because obviously SB likes to prank call Marzipan so putting in a Subsection would be better so you can actually see when he was Prank Calling and when he was doing something else on the Machine. Meaty85203 02:40, 5 March 2009 (UTC) The Same Person who made the sublist edit ):


DeFender, I think we have a spamming user in this wiki, I tried starting a talk page of Sbemailiarized! wondering if it was a promo for 2009's batch of Sbemails and Hremails, but some guy whose user idenity was not shown said that it was a compent about sbemails and that there would be no more hremails, and it got the page deleted. User:MICGAGUH


i'm want do good edits stop of undo my edits becouse is so dumb undo my edits Lucsar 20:02, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, the way things work here is community consensus. you can't just make edits that you feel are right and expect them not to be reverted when the community has already decided on something. — Defender1031*Talk 20:05, 31 March 2009 (UTC)


Hey Def. Can you make me a sig...i have no idea how to do it, and ive seen some of your work. I really "appreceat" it. Geonightman 15:55, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, I'm afraid that in the vast sea of sig possibilities, there are many sig fishes... you need to be a bit more descriptive as to what kind of sig you want... what colors? fonts? pictures? power doors? rear deck for dinner and dancing? a proboscis? Let me know and i'll see what i can do. — Defender1031*Talk 17:46, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Well im kinda partial to the color green. So anything other than Baby puke. If you have the Doom Font (Which you can get in the fonts menu) thatd be good. And i guess the pixalated Stinkoman from Stinkoman 20X6 would be cool. If your allowed animated stuff for the sig then i guess a running stinko would be kool. Thanks for helpin out. Geonightman 18:50, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

"'I Say it Looks Bad' Won't Help Resolve This"

The reason I think that is that one can easily argue against it by saying, "I say it looks good" and most of the time I have no idea whose opinion is more valid, especially since neither of us is a sysop. I won't be surprised or ashamed if writing this has no affect on how you argue. I just had to explain this summary in a place where it would fit. BBG 21:14, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Regarding "How talk pages work"

Um, if no one's allowed to remove incorrect information, you should tell that to IDC [1]. - 22:30, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

That talk page is a special case. Its purpose is not for the discussion of the corresponding project page or of any article, but is a help desk. Anyone replying to a question on that page is in a sense taking it upon themselves to speak for the wiki, and there are ways to do that and ways not to. In the case you cite, the reply was not only patently false but rude to boot. Rather than strike out or simply contradict the incorrect response, it was better just to remove it. — It's dot com 22:50, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
I see. - 23:02, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Speaking to the issue we're actually talking about, our guidelines state that one should "not remove posts from a talk page unless ... there is a clear, compelling reason the post must be removed." Trying to avoid confusion by removing something you yourself said in error is probably okay, if it's caught fast enough (and I think eight minutes is fast enough). On the other hand, the comments are benign enough that it's also probably okay for your comment and DeFender's reply to stand as they are (with nothing being struck out). I think it was unnecessary for him to revert you once you had removed it, but now that it's back it doesn't need to be removed a second time. — It's dot com 23:14, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry 2

The "did you even check" wasn't aimed at you. I was attempting to revert with an edit and, for whatever reason, it didn't give me an edit conflict when you did the same. Sorry 'bout that. --Jay (Talk) 20:49, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh... heh... i thought the summary looked out of place... No harm done. — Defender1031*Talk 20:50, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Accidentally made a page

can you delete ? i made it without realising there arleady was a page.

Strong Bad and The King of Town's Relationship

In your edit summary, you said, "yeah, we tend to specifically NOT bypass redirects with pipes for several reasons." What does this mean? like, what is a pipe? The Knights Who Say Ni 00:16, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

"|" is a pipe. in wiki terms "pipe" is short for "piped link". a piped link is a link in the form "[[link|link text]]". We generally prefer linking to redirects where they exist over piping to avoid them for a variety of reasons. Hope that helps. — Defender1031*Talk 00:25, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
that makes sense, but i still don't know any of the reasons haha. i mean, i can think of one: in case a page is fairly long, doing that would help somewhat with the byte count, but that's the only thing i can think of. i hate to make you try to tell me a long list, but maybe a few others? The Knights Who Say Ni 00:31, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Byte count shmyte count... roughly 50,000+12=roughly 50,000. That's not the issue. There was a discussion on it some time back. The biggest reason is if there's a link to something that redirects to a section on a larger page, but could be made its own page eventually, the link wouldn't need to be changed, the redirect would just be made into a full page and viola, now your page links where it's supposed to. (That doesn't really apply to "X" vs. "The X" but meh.) Other reasons include that it looks better in the page source without the pipe, and that if people click on a link to one thing, it makes sense to have a little notice at the top saying why they got another. (Also doesn't REALLY apply in the case of "X" vs. "The X", but i'm a stickler for consistency.) That said, it probably doesn't matter SO much in this case, and wasn't really worth the extra couple of edits either way, but like i said, i like consistency. — Defender1031*Talk 00:58, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
haha okay that works. what i was thinking was if you had several on the same page, that would end up multiplying. Those make more sense; thanks. The Knights Who Say Ni 01:13, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Main Page 24

Did you see my edit summary? i was running out of room, so i had to abbreve everything. it should have said: "yes i saw that afterwards and decided not to revert myself b/c the remark seems to suggest otherwise as it is. the explanation is thorough, but since there's only one shirt subject tbc didn't invent, and because the remark suggests the shirts would be clear, i think it should be in both places." i know we typically don't put information in two different places on the same page, and i could understand if there was just the one asterisk instead of two, but as it stands, the remark suggests that everything is unblurred when that is just not the case. The Knights Who Say Ni 21:21, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

From the "Button Effects" section:
  • Store — Glasses are placed on the viewer, allowing for better vision. Homestar's shirts are still blurred.
Hence, there is no reason to add it to the remark. Further, the remark says you can watch the OTHER animations unblurred. It does not imply in any way that the shirt will be unblurred, especially when the button effect says explicitly otherwise. Lastly, this type of thing goes better on the talk page of the article in question, rather than a user talk. — Defender1031*Talk 21:25, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
(1)I am officially blind for (a)not seeing that you said that (b)not seeing that it was in button effects. (2)ok i see your point now (3)i just figured you would see it faster on your talk page than on the page's talk page. and since you reverted me twice, i decided to ask you instead of anybody.
i haven't been reverted this much (not just this; it's happened a lot lately) since before i created an account. maybe i need a vacation. The Knights Who Say Ni 21:32, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
That's all perfectly alright. No hard feelings. :) — Defender1031*Talk 21:42, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Recent Changes Patrol Talk

Hi DeFender: I see you edited my question on recent changes talk page. I specifically said in the summary that no one should replace the question because I saw seven other people saying and asking the same thing. I just wanted to save some space. Thanks! —Mas12806 (talk·contribs) 18:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

That's fine. Proper procedure is still to make a new section for new questions, and not to remove old ones. — Defender1031*Talk 18:14, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Pipe Nazi

hey i saw that u called urself this on the standards page i just thot i woud tell u that that phrase may be offensive to jews so maybe u should not use it as much anyway have a nice day

Maybe you should check out his user page. There are plenty of hints for what I'm getting at, but I'd say the second userbox is the best one. (Edit: It's actually been pointed out to me that there's an even better one.) Just a thought. — It's dot com 23:04, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Template help

I decided, since I'm in a little bit of a template issue, that I may as well take you up on your offer. After all, you've obviously shown us that you are an expert with MediaWiki markup and especially ParserFunctions. I'm trying to import a MediaWiki language userbox (how ironic), and I'm trying to make the font size the same (11pt). However, using a <span> element in the code parameter to down the font size didn't work. There is no pipe in the parameter, and I even entity'd the curly brackets (the user box code is "{{Wiki}}"). Is it the equals sign for the style attribute? Will I need to work out some ParserFunctions in the userbox template as to fix the problem and specify a font size? Or am I just missing/forgetting something?

Here's my code:
{{userbox|border=#999999|mainbkgd=#FFFFFF|codebkgd=#CCCCCC|code=[[Main Page|<span style="font-size:11pt !important;">{{Wiki}}</span>]]|msg=This user is an '''intermediate''' writer in the MediaWiki language.}} Soiled Bargains (talk|ctrb) 17:28, 11 August 2009 (UTC)


Your code looks fine to me. Is there some problem i'm missing? — Defender1031*Talk 19:13, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

The left side of the original userbox is in 11pt font. On my side it doesn't appear to be in that font size. Soiled Bargains (talk|ctrb) 22:53, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
This is the same userbox with the font in 11, 20, and 50, respectively. Seem like it's working right. Perhaps you want to pick a smaller font size than 11? — Defender1031*Talk 22:59, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
I just realized the font size is actually 9pts. Oops. And, also, bolding the text...
That still doesn't look right. I think I'll mess around with this in the sandbox after taking a look at Wikipedia's userbox template and ours, and come back from eating some pizza. Soiled Bargains (talk|ctrb) 23:21, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Aside from the link on "intermediate" and the bold and link on "MediaWiki", it looks exactly the same to me. — Defender1031*Talk 23:25, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Yeah. I think I'll just leave it alone for now and go with what I have (though you can barely read it, since I wanted it to fit in 45 pixels!). I have another question. I would like to put a ParserFunction into my signature that'll get rid of the link to my talk page if someone's on my talk pages (well, what will become pages in 2010). Similar to your signature and how "Talk" is replaced by "Me". This is the code I'm trying:

{{#ifexpr: {{BASEPAGENAME}}="SoiledBargains" and {{ns:User talk}}||[[User talk:Soiled Bargains|talk]]<nowiki>|}} </nowiki>

I'm getting the error, Expression error: Unrecognised word "soiled". And I'm not too sure if I'm using the right magic word for this. What advice do you have? Soiled Bargains (talk|ctrb) 16:22, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

That's cause you want {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|User talk:Soiled Bargains|[[User talk:Soiled Bargains|talk]]|}} — Defender1031*Talk 18:52, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
But, that's the thing. I'd like for it to (if possible) effect any talk archives that I will have as well. Would it be best just to make it a {{#switch}} ParserFunction? Soiled Bargains (talk|ctrb) 20:50, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Probably a series of ifeqs and ands in an ifexpr. — Defender1031*Talk 20:53, 14 August 2009 (UTC)


Can you help me with a custom sig? -Espe Pwnage 01:49, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Sure. What do you want it to look like? — Defender1031*Talk 02:09, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Like yours, only orange to white. With H-h-h-homsar on each sidefacing the words, if possible. Am I asking too much? -Espe Pwnage 02:42, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
So... like this?
Espe Pwnage!Espemon333Espe Pwnage!
— Defender1031*Talk 04:06, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
AIEE!!!!! YES!!!!!!! THANKS YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!! Espemon333 (Talk | contribs) 15:55, 21 August 2009 (left unsigned)
How do I use it? Like, use it when I use the wonkijog's? (~) -Espemon333
In your preferences, for "signature" put {{User:Espemon333/sig}} and make sure "Treat signature as wikitext (without an automatic link)" is checked. — Defender1031*Talk 20:45, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Oh, hey. Do you know how to get, like, sigs for diffrent holidays? cash money tc 01:13, 4 September 2009 (UTC)


Hello, I think the problem with customizing my sig is because I come from a wiki hosted by Wikia and it's a bit different there with the whole sig thing.--Starteen 23:53, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

That's alright. Seems like you have it mostly working now. It looks good. See ya around the wiki. — Defender1031*Talk 23:59, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

A bit of help

Hey, could you help me figure out the IRC channels? I've gotten as far as actually logging on but after that... i'm just... stuck. -cash money tc 00:39, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Hey, me too! Espemon333 01:10, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
To MMM, I see you joined the channel and left it a couple of times earlier... looks like you were there and no one was talking. Once you get to the channel, you can like... type stuff... and then hit enter... and then other people will see it and if they're around, they might type back... but if they don't type back immediately, don't get impatient and leave because then people will see it a few minutes later and think "wow, that guy was impatient". So yeah... that's all i can tell you unless you have a more specific question. — Defender1031*Talk 02:13, 2 September 2009 (UTC)


Why is it policy to make the sic's inviso? Isn't it useful for the reader to be able to see 'em? (Not disputing it, just asking in general) - 19:13, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure it's POLICY, but it's what we generally do in transcripts and direct representations of content, as it's less intrusive if it's invisible in those places. — Defender1031*Talk 19:15, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Not meaning to come down one way or the other on this matter myself, but I do want to note there was a fairly lengthy debate on this very matter a few years ago in the talk page to the Manual of Style. While it doesn't seem clear that any consensus was really arrived at, the wording in the Manual of Style, as it currently stands, seems to suggest visibility (at least, it does recommend adding the "[sic]", and doesn't say anything about making it invisible). Maybe this is a matter that ought to be reopened? (Or not...) —Alun Clewe 19:41, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Consensus or not, policy or not, invisible or not, my talk page isn't the place to have this discussion anyway. — Defender1031*Talk 20:16, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Sorry. Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but what do you suggest I should have done? I'm not the one who started the discussion, but I thought it was worth pursuing... but I see your point that this wasn't the place for it. Would it have been better had I brought the discussion to the dictionary Talk page, since that's presumably the article the original poster was referring to? Or should I have just stayed out of it entirely? Again, sorry if this is a stupid question--I'm not trying to be ironic or intentionally obtuse; I really don't have that much wiki editing experience, and I'm honestly wondering what the more appropriate course of action would have been here.—Alun Clewe 20:25, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Ah, i see you misunderstood. Asking me about the edit here on my talk page was fine. Continuing the discussion and bringing the extra background information and topic history is also fine. Suggesting that this discussion be revitalized is fine too. In fact, there was nothing that was not fine. All i meant was that if we do reopen the matter, this isn't the place for it. It should be done on a more public talk page, like standards or manual of style, either of which would be fine. — Defender1031*Talk 20:30, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Picking up the old discussion at the link above is probably appropriate. Nothing's really changed since then to make the previous discussion obsolete. — It's dot com 20:33, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Ah, OK, thanks; yeah, I did misunderstand. And apparently I was unclear with what I wrote, since I didn't mean I thought the discussion would be reopened here—I figured if it was going to be reopened, it would be on the Manual of Style talk page where it had been before, but perhaps I should have been more explicit about that.—Alun Clewe 20:48, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Bandwith Issue?

Why is it that your user page always slows my computer down? Espemon333 01:39, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Probably the super-awesome ascii art. That's a lot of information in a very small visual area... I know any time i scroll by it, it slows down for me as well. It's possible that your browser renders the entire page at once rather than just the section you're viewing, in which case, you probably have the whole page loaded, but it hasn't become visible yet, as the ascii-art takes a while to process given its complexity. Unless it's affecting other programs, don't worry too much about it. If it IS affecting other programs, please let me know, so i can remove it. (Cool though it may be, if it's causing people problems, then it shouldn't be there.) — Defender1031*Talk 01:58, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Well it only messes up Internet Explorer, so you're good! I just try to avoid the page so it donen't shut down my Internet. Ironically I can open Benol's page without a problem! Youknowwhotw0n32t2
His ascii art is black and white. Mine is varying color, and nearly each character has its own color codes. Far more data. — Defender1031*Talk 00:00, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Ah. Espemon333 00:14, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Wait a second... YOU LIE!!! I see no ASCII art! Espemon333 23:19, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
really? — Defender1031*Talk 00:11, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Oh, um, well, about that... imakickyouto! Espemon333 00:23, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
It doesn't work for me either. It only did once.... When i pull it up, I looks like its trying to go, like I get the first 3(?) lines of it, but on the right of it it looks like the quadratic formula exploded. There's wierd + signs just thrown in randomly. It also has a partialy obscured "w" at the end of it. The whole thing is there when I hit edit to check and see if you just took it down. I don't know if it's just my browser or what... it's wierd... cash money tc 02:04, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Well I can open it on another page with that on there... Espemon333 23:48, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

I meant to mispell, "Humestar"

Humestar looks stupid. Now Humstar, THAT looks nice. TheHumstarRonner 01:53, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. — Defender1031*Talk 01:57, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Happy Yom Huledet!

I brought you a cake!

So, are you, like, 40 now? Elcool (talk)(contribs) 16:05, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm gonna guess that Yom Huledet is Hebrew for "birthday" Happy T! Birhtday! cash money tc 17:01, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Happy Birfday Fendam'n. May you be a sysops in the near future.--Record307 Talk/Contribs 01:34, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, though by now i'll be accepting baleeted birthday wishes, as my birthday actually coincides with halloween. — Defender1031*Talk 01:38, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
i apologize for being too busy on saturday to do any wiki editing. happy belated birthday sir The Knights Who Say Ni 02:45, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Happy birthday, DeFender! Keep on tranglin'! Soiled Bargains (talk|ctrb) 03:14, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

And some what

Touche. - 20:05, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

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