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It has been suggested that the Main Page be redesigned. Feel free to use its project page for proposed redesigns.

Featured content of the day (or whenever) issue

I noticed that the trogdor 08 link to "watch" links to trogday.html, and not trogday08.html is this a known issue? ColdReactive 13:04, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Fixed. — It's dot com 15:48, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Discussions

There are a lot of talk page discussions happening on this wiki. The problem is, this wiki is not very active, so such discussions rarely get consensus and very few things get done. (That's why I'm always reviving old discussions with a phrase like "I still agree with this.") I think there should be some way to keep track of all the ongoing discussions. Maybe a [[HRWiki:Discussions]] page or something to keep these discussions from becoming inactive. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 01:37, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

I still agree with this. (See? That proves my point!) Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 06:17, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

I also agree with this. (You have a good point!) Minecraft lover147 04:58, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

There's HRWiki:Open Discussions - not really active, but since it's directly linked from The Stick it could be revived easily. -- Bleu Ninja 21:40, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

Aquabats Kickstarter Cameo

Homestar Runner makes an appearance in this Aquabats Kickstarter video

[1] — 108.54.219.151 (Talk | contribs) 20:07, 10 August 2018 (UTC) (left unsigned)

February 21?

Why does the Main Page say that the newest Skills of an Artist was released on February 21 when it was released this month? 76.184.27.104 20:23, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

My bad. I probably copy-pasted it when updating and forgot to change the date. Thanks for bringing it to my attention~ --DorianGray 20:34, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Two Questions

These two edits raise two questions concerning wiki standards.

See HRWiki talk:Standards → Linking to articles with disambiguation in the page title

and HRWiki talk:Standards → Retroactive names in transcripts

Some questions we would like to ask about...

Hi there, I'm a stranger who wants to ask you some questions.

1) When will ALL the old Flash pages turn to HTML5?

2) When are you going to UNBAN IP addresses who "committed" persistent vandalism?

3) If Flash is dead, are you going to cancel HomestarRunner.com ?

4) Why wouldn't we see ANY updates from 2011 to 2014?

5) Could y'all please tell us what email The Brothers Chaps have?

--83.185.35.154 18:37, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

1) We don't know. Ask the Brothers Chaps.

2) Never. Why should we?

3) You'll have to be more specific as to what that means exactly. We aren't involved with homestarrunner.com, so we can't take down someone else's website. And The Brothers Chaps are planning to give the site a HTML5 update, so they won't take it down.

4) Kids, creative burnout, side projects, etc. See HRWiki:Hiatuses for more details.

5) Their email address used to be brotherschaps@homestarrunner.com, but it was removed from the site's Email page, so it seems @StrongBadActual is now their primary contact method.

Hope this helps! Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 22:33, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Concerning the answer #2, why never? --83.185.35.154 22:50, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

To reduce the risk of a repeat offender. The Knights Who Say Ni 23:32, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

THAT repeat offender is way worse than CE5, aren't we right? --83.185.35.154 23:36, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Look, I'm not sure what your issues are, but the simple truth is that the best thing for you to do is behave like someone who has never even heard the name "Maudi Algabban" (we are not fooled, we know who you are) and has literally zero curiosity about the name or the user's history, while also showing no particular interest toward all the things you show far too much interest over (such as the Pyongyang reference, the hiatuses, and the possibility of homestarrunner.com being taken down) and never, ever, even for a moment, even consider writing loud yelling, swearing posts demanding people unblock you and give you answers to questions we have no way of answering. Also, make constructive Wiki edits (that means not vandalism, with or without scare quotes), not just Talk page chatter. Basically, you need to start over completely and pretend you are not and were never you and do not care about you - and that doesn't mean to insult yourself, it means do not mention yourself. You've built up far too much bad karma, so it's very likely that even the slightest hint that you are you will be treated with immediate suspicion, and likely result in further blocks. And if you think this is unreasonable, perhaps what you really need to do is to find a way to end your obsession with this Wiki. You've been pulling these bizarre stunts for literal years. --Jay (Gobble) 23:50, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

I must tell you all that I'm NOTHING but a stranger, but if you would like to send some ANGRY emails to him, his email address is -redacted- . Maudi MUST be punished and he's WAY the worst contributor on Homestar Runner Wiki! LET'S GET HIM!!!! --83.185.35.154 23:57, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

*sigh* I tried. --Jay (Gobble) 23:59, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Netiquette w/r/t interviews on defunct sites

As I clean up various pages on the site I'm finding that many cited interviews and links are dead and gone.

See HRWiki talk:Standards → Interviews on defunct sites

https

Hi! Can you make this site secure please, https. Thanks kindly!

 ?

I have literally no idea what you mean by that. -Minecraft lover147 04:53, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

YouTube channel?

Maybe you could consider adding the HomestarRunner YouTube channel to the new content watchlist, since that's where TBC seems to be doing most of their work, now?

ToaJuaraevo01(Forgot how to sign)

To sign, just put four tildes after your post (~~~~). Lira (talk) 16:20, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

If you just want your name, like this:Minecraft lover147, you just put 3 tildes after your post (~~~). If you want to do your name and the time, do the aforementioned 4 tildes. To do just the time, like this: 05:11, 9 February 2020 (UTC), do 5 tildes (~~~~~).

This post has been posted by Minecraft lover147. The time it was posted is 05:11, 9 February 2020 (UTC).

I disagree. YouTube is really more of a dumping ground for all the old Flash stuff that is still available on the site, but might not be should the Flash plug be pulled. And though I prefer to avoid YouTube, I don't think the Homestar Runner YouTube channel has been updated in months. Because YouTube is a place where absolutely nothing happens. I would mention that most new content is now posted on Twitter, but much of it doesn't qualify as full toons that demand full attention. (This may change, but not in the foreseeable future). -- 68.37.43.131 13:35, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

There actually is SOME original content on there, if you bother to look. ToaJuaraevo01 04:12, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

What exactly do you mean "new content watchlist"? YouTube-exclusive content is already listed and documented in numerous places. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 07:38, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Redesign

I was just looking at the HRWiki:Main page redesign, and it had something entitled, "On this day..." for H*R stuff that happened on that day in history. I like the idea of that, but when I looked on it, it had stuff for February 9th. Where I live, it's still February 8th. I know this wiki is centered around UTC, but it could be very confusing for someone who doesn't know that. -Minecraft lover147 04:50, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Sick Homestar, BRAH

Why is homestar sick looking on the main page button? Found no other place to post this question --Jeffjman[2] 16:04, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

World events, Jeff. World events. — It's dot com 17:12, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

How long exactly will the COVID-related logos continue to show up? It's been long enough now - if it was even necessary in the first place. Yes, we get it. Current events, the end times have almost come, we almost danced the Conga of the Apocalypse, etc. We get that. I think everyone who visits this wiki is aware of that by now. I think we'd all be aware of that even if this wiki's logo didn't shove it in our faces every few page loads (though I do appreciate that it is no longer EVERY page load like it was at first). And I don't think any of us like being reminded of it - especially not this long after the fact. I'm sure most of us visit this wiki to take our minds off of the bad news for a while, not to be reminded of it by the logo. But it's your call, I suppose. I do hope I'm not coming across as rude - I just want to give my two cents on the matter since no one has brought up this point of view yet. 76.184.23.181 01:24, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

What's funny is I agree with you—it has been long enough now, and I don't like being reminded of it, either. In fact I came this close to taking it down completely a couple of days ago, but I stopped myself. It just didn't feel right, since this mess is still very much not over. But I toned it way down (btw, the most it has ever appeared is on half of all page loads; now it's on a twelfth). If you'd like to eliminate it completely, you can of course create an account and then set whatever logo you like on your user CSS page. As you mention, no one else has brought up this point of view yet. If they do, I'll reconsider whether it's time to take it down altogether. — It's dot com 03:03, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

1) You have no idea how relieved I am to hear that you agree with me for the most part! :)

I apologize if I came across as preemptively defensive earlier. I'm not the best at wording, so I was gulp-afraid of saying the wrong thing and being misunderstood... that's happened to me a lot, especially in discussions about this pandemic. (Which is the major reason for me not liking to be reminded of it too often if possible.)

2) Oh yes, I do remember that even in the beginning it wasn't on every page load. I think I initially assumed it was on only certain pages or something. And I did notice that it wasn't appearing as frequently lately, but I wasn't sure if that meant it had been toned down or was just a coincidence (at one point I even thought it was finally gone). Once every 12 page loads is acceptable, especially now that I know I'm not the only one who's tired of it. ;)

3) I didn't know it was possible to change the logo on my user CSS page. I don't have a lot of practice with CSS but I might give it a try. Thanks for letting me know!

4) I suppose it should be mentioned: technically I do have an account here, that I made when I was about 14 or 15. Same with the forum. But I've haven't been to the forum in years and have barely used the wiki account - instead, I mostly just browse the wiki, and, on VERY rare occasions, post on talk pages. Every once in a while I think about logging in and making contributions more often and becoming a regular user (after all, I read talk pages more than the average non-contributing user does, and several times I've thought of edits I could make), but... I said a LOT of dumb things on the forum back in the day, and my wiki and forum usernames are similar, so I cringe thinking about the possibility that people might still remember all of that. One of these days I'm going to see if I can still log in so I can change my username.

76.184.23.181 07:49, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Turns out the coronavirus doubles as a computer virus. TheThingé 20:31, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

What's new correction

The "What's New" should have the Fan Costumes from Thanksgiving at the bottom. Wolf O'Donnel 03:52, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

I think whoever edited What's New last opted to take the Fan Costumes out instead, because the Halloween toon is a bigger, more significant update. The importance of updates should be considered alongside their recent,,,ness. A big toon should take priority over a short, and so on. --DorianGray 04:33, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

I did that. I was under the impression that the box was meant to primarily show the updates on the site's "what's new" button. The Halloween toon is there, while the Fan Costumes is not. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 04:37, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

A good rule of thumb is that we should list everything within the last month and anything that's still in the What's New button, and if we still have space to fill, we can include older things that you can actually watch, like toons. — It's dot com 14:07, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Site on the fritz

The wiki has been taking an age to load lately. Is there something amiss or do just that many people wanna know what the crap Bod is? Guybrush20X6 12:21, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Yeah that happens sometimes, especially when there's a new toon. — It's dot com 16:35, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

History preservation

Could you keep the pages for the stuff that will be removed from the website in 2021 (e.g. games, character videos, etc.) on the Wiki, so as to preserve the history of the website? (That "Mashed Potato Jones" comment from "Halloween Fairstival" and other stuff that was changed should be kept on the Wiki, too)

Has there been any announcement indicating that content will be removed from the website? I believe individuals have made content archives and projects such as Lightspark should allow such content to remain playable after flash's EOL. So we should be ok? Still I haven't seen any notice of content deletion as of yet. --Stux 18:06, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Remove FeedBurner from the main page

If we're not doing a main page redesign in the near future, could we at least replace the link to FeedBurner with @StrongBadActual? It's where updates really happen now. — Elcool ^(talk)_(contribs) 07:02, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

I agree with Elcool. Which is why I decided to be bold and make the exact update he suggests. --Jay (Gobble) 10:02, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

A bold edit? on the Main Page?!?!? :O Awesome! — Elcool ^(talk)_(contribs) 12:28, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

NOTE: I've updated the redesign discussion here in response to this update. --Stux 19:47, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

To Elcool, Jay, and the rest of the sysops (and the greater wiki community at large): I would greatly appreciate everyone's feedback on if and how to move forward with the main page redesign! This is another thing that has stalled for years and I think even small changes would be helpful. However, changes for the main page need to begin with sysop and admin participation! Thanks! --Stux 13:53, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Flash archive preservation

What are we going to do with the wiki's flash archives? We need to preserve the old content, and there isn't any sign that the brothers chaps will post them on youtube.

[They've got their top man on it.] And we got all the files backed up here so if needed we can run our own legacy player for stuff like Where the Crap are we? or worst case scenario, beg Newgrounds for their player. Guybrush20X6 00:16, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

And just like that, they've unveiled a new HTML site that runs Ruffle for the old crap! I already found two Easter eggs! Guybrush20X6 01:50, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Some sbemails redirect to the wrong ones.

As an example: 1 step ahead redirects to sbemail 29 if you take the link to http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail28.html ColdReactive 08:13, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Sounds like a redirect bug to me (or similar). It could be noted in the Post-Flash Site Update page. But more importantly TBC should be made aware of this so it can be fixed. Not sure what the best way to do that is, I don't think they have a 'report site problems' link or similar. Oh, I guess there's also twitter! --Stux 08:20, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Index page seems to be missing from the Main Page

The title says it all: every since the Post-Flash Site Update, it seems the Index Page has risen to prominence a bit more than before. It should probably be included in the Main Page as well! --Stux 09:10, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

I see this a lot. Why do people say that the title says it all and then go on to say more things? Anyway I added the index page to the main page. — It's dot com 16:45, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

That is a very good question! I had never thought of that before. I almost didn't put the phrase in, but I still felt like it should go there. People are riddled and mired in contradiction. That's the only thing that comes to mind. Also, thank you very much for adding the link! --Stux 13:51, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Breaking tradition

Twice, I've come across edits that go against tradition. I'm fairly certain we have never had a disambiguation with a non-name-matching entry or a categorised redirect, and I also don't understand the sudden acceptance for them. RickTommy (edits) 13:09, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Tradition for tradition's sake isn't necessarily a good thing. If all decisions were made purely based on precedent, nothing would ever change. Also, since these edits have been made, they are no longer unprecedented. When these precedents were established is irrelevant; what matters is whether these practices should continue based on their own merits.

The first is more common than you think (Haunted House, for instance, has no links with "Haunted House" in the title). The content of the page is just as relevant as its title, so I see no reason to enforce such a restriction. I can imagine a user looking for the sbemail about eggs, and visiting that disambiguation for help finding it.

I'm more conflicted on the second thing. I can see the benefits, but to me, a categorised redirect is an indication that either the redirect should get its own page, or that the page should be categorised instead of the redirect. I'd prefer a more elegant solution, but it's not harming anyone and is unlikely to cause confusion, so I'm fine with it staying. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 19:12, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Markiplier Mentions

I recently noticed the Markiplier has referenced Homestarrunner.com on more than one occasion.

He made a vague reference to the Virus SBEmail in his :The Game: trilogy.

Also in his playthrough of Home Improvisation I noticed that one of the boxes in the game has Fhqwhgads printed on it. ToaJuaraevo01 22:19, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Markiplier is a good fit for Other Sightings. See the entries for Brutalmoose, DaThings, or PeanutButterGamer for examples of how to note the mentions. Describe Markiplier's references and link to the videos where they appear, timestamped if possible. The "Home Improvisation" reference can go in Game Sightings. -- Bleu Ninja 05:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Done! ToaJuaraevo01 17:40, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

DVD commentary filmographies?

Although the DVD commentaries are generally just the two Brothers Chaps, many times they are joined by friends and family and/or Matt will portray one of the dumb animal characters. The toon articles all identify who is present for the DVD version with a "Commentary by:" subheader, but is there a separate article tracking commentators? Something like Category:Filmography, Strong Bad Email By Name of Sender, or Fan Costumes#Costumes. If not this is something that I think would be a good addition to the wiki. -- Bleu Ninja 17:26, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Each DVD page (e.g. strongbad_email.exe Disc One) lists the commentators of each toon, but it might be interesting and helpful to have a centralized list of all of them. Ideally it should be formatted differently from the DVD articles (such as having separate sections for each character), or else it might be redundant. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 18:05, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Loading issues

I've been having some loading issues on both Chrome and Firefox with ad blockers off. Wolf O'Donnel 08:35, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

The wiki tends to load slower when it receives more traffic. My guess is that more people are coming here to check if the Halloween toon/teaser is out. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 03:45, 26 October 2021 (UTC)