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[edit] Forum Registration

Hey, for a while now I've wanted to be able to join the HRWiki forum, but I've looked high and low and I've not been able to find a way to do that. Is this another thing you have to send via email, or what? Lira (talk) 15:03, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Yup! - Catjaz63 18:35, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

[edit] Downloads!

Whenever I go to a page's history and click on "Compare selected revisions", it says I have to download it. Is there some way for me to compare two versions of a page easily without having to download anything? Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 22:55, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

I don't experience that. Please list the exact steps you are taking, as well as your browser and OS. — It's dot com 23:01, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
I'm using Google Chrome. What I do is I go to a page, click history, and click the "Compare selected revisions" button, and then a pop-up appears that says to name the file that I'm downloading. Then I just click that "X" in the corner to close the box. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 01:05, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
I'm also using Google Chrome and I cannot replicate this. My first recommendation is to check your browser and/or machine for malware, but that's unlikely. - Catjaz63 01:37, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
I fixed it! I got a new computer, but the problem was still there. And it worked whenever I logged out, so I knew it was a problem with my account. I went through my preferences and found out that the "Use external diff by default (for experts only, needs special settings on your computer)" box was checked for the last few years. I unchecked the box, and now I can compare edits! I shoulda done this like a million years ago! Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 04:47, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

[edit] Jam parsing glitch

I wanted to check if there was a page about jam (of course there isn't — not even a redirect page with that name), but when I typed "jam" into the search bar, it brought me here. If I had typed "James", that would make sense, but I only typed "jam". What's more, if I type [[jam]], the href points to the James article before I even click on it, like so. Is there some kind of server-side string replacement going on here? -- ■■   PURPLE  WRENCH   ■■ 14:46, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

That is odd. What if you create the page? TheThin 15:11, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
Norwegian deals, it worked! But this kinda thing could still happen with other pages. For example, while it would make sense for "Jame" to redirect to "James", there is no redirect page for it, so the same glitch happens. How do we know it isn't happening with other words? -- ■■   PURPLE  WRENCH   ■■ 15:43, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
This is a side effect of autopipe. It's testing whether we have a page of the plural, but it can't discern that "james" is not a valid plural for "jam", only that the page James exists. It tries both "s" and "es" suffixes (and if the word ends in "y", "ies"):
  • "word" → "words" → "wordes"
  • "box" → "boxs" → "boxes"
  • "monkey" → "monkeys" → "monkeyes" → "monkeies"
  • "army" → "armys" → "armyes" → "armies"
In all of those groups, only one is the correct plural, but the function tries to match them all. — It's dot com 16:44, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Cheatday?

Today is my 26th Birthday. I think we aught to do something to acknowledge users' birthdays. Like "It's dot com's" birthday. He's my favorite user.... ToaJuaraevo01 File:Homsar-in-motion.gif 17:39, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Well it's also my birthday. But, I really don't see the reason for this or where it would be placed. - Catjaz63 17:52, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

[edit] Brainkrieg, not Brainkreig

The listing for the Brainkrieg shirt is not correct. It is BRAINKRIEG, not Brainkreig. Could someone correct it, please?—Bde1982 14:06, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for letting us know~ --DorianGray 14:13, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
You're welcome. Have a nice day.—Bde1982 14:28, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

[edit] Halloween main page

Since Halloween is coming, can we change the wiki into the ween theme? -- 14:52, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Is it even time? We usually don't changes the styles for two or three more weeks. Putting up the decorations now would be the earliest we've done it by far, but I'll do it if that's the consensus. — It's dot com 17:22, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

[edit] Google+

So... homestarrunnerdotcom has an official Google+ page. It's linked to from their YouTube account. Just pointing this out. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 02:51, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

During the time that the YouTube page was created, you had to link your YouTube account to a Google+ profile or it made a Google+ profile for you out of your YouTube account. Nothing unusual or strange, just the YouTube page but the Google+ auto-created page. - Catjaz63 03:28, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

[edit] New content! sorta.

This. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 23:22, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

[edit] Updated Main Page

Sorry 'bout all dese talk page posts, but... @StrongBadActual isn't linked to anywhere on the Main Page. And neither is YouTube, which has replaced FeedBurner on the NavBar. There's also a bunch of empty space beneath the "Miscellany" secion. There's at least 4 things we can do with that empty space:

  1. Put Strong Bad's latest tweets there, a-like so.
  2. Put featured article "reruns" there. Like this type.
  3. Bring back featured articles. There are as many active users now as there were back then, and over 300 unused drafts.
  4. Just... {sigh} leave it how it is.

So... hey, sysops? Ya think we should do these things? Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 00:26, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Hello? Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 02:48, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
We should probably fill that big gap on the left. I don't hate the Twitter idea, although really the whole main page needs a complete overhaul. — It's dot com 04:29, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Yeah. We should also change it back to what it is before Halloween came. So, recap: Tweets will be in the main page, So does the featured article, and leave it how it is. So, CAN WE DO IT PLZ? :) -- 18:40, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
We don't change back for at least a week after Halloween. There may still be a costume commentary toon to come. — It's dot com 19:16, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
So, what does everyone else think about the new main page ideas? Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 04:57, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
I think rather highly of them. I mean, a) we have this huge blank space on the main page that's begging to be filled, and b) Strong Bad's Twitter makes up a large part of H*R activity nowadays, and putting them on the main page would complement the What's New? section nicely. If nothing else, we at least need to link to @StrongBadActual from the main page. Seriously. Lira (talk) 17:00, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
Somebody fill {{recenttweets}} with data. Check your work in the sandbox (current version). Barring opposition, once it looks presentable, we'll implement it. — It's dot com 17:33, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
Alright. What do you think? Lira (talk) 23:28, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

I'd say it's shaping up. We'll give people a little time to comment but if there are no nays in the next day or two then I'll load the changes. — It's dot com 02:29, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Man, it's been forever since the Main Page was changed. This'll be exciting! Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 02:44, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
Also, is the Featured Content section really necessary? It hardly even gets updated. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 05:59, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
Oppose. It's bad enough that 90% of the Internet has done the same thing in some way, shape or form. Also, what if SBA suffers the same fate as Ronginald? RickTommy (edits) 07:24, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
Is there a specific reason why you dislike this? "It's bad enough that 90% of the Internet has done the same thing in some way, shape or form" is not a reason, it's just begging the question. As for "what if they shut it down", I would say two things. Firstly, it seems as though @ronginald was an experiment with twitter and they're now going full-force with @StrongBadActual. As such it seems unlikely that they'll shut it down any time soon. Secondly, if they DO shut it down, we can figure out what to replace it with at that time. For the moment, it exists, fills the space nicely, and makes sense to be there. — Defender1031*Talk 11:47, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
So, with regards to these edits, there is clear disagreement regarding the format of the main page nav bar. The question is basically this: should the Nav Bar look exactly like H*R's nav bar or should we follow the traditional wording we've had? I slightly lean towards making it look like the H*R Nav bar since it's new and it makes it looks kinda slick. In any case, I'm here bringing up this topic in order to hear the merits or each side and gague community consensus. --Stux 00:36, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
I'm sure it was ever intended to match the nav bar at the bottom of the official site (more like the navigation along the left side of the main pages, plus legal for some reason), nor do I really think it should, due to the redundancy of links. — It's dot com 01:33, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
I think it looks cleaner without the "Main Menu" text, and it seems more appropriate to have that particular area of the page match the hrwiki navbar. The links on the left lower down can be for the other stuff we want to provide easy navigation to. — Defender1031*Talk 01:40, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Alternate universes layouts:
Since DeFender and I are playing with alternative layouts, I figured it'd be best to list them here:

And so, opinions? I kinda like the oddball "nonsense" header. Feel free to add more "styles" to this list! --Stux 19:45, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Here's my idea. Surprisingly, there's no link to on the main page, so I added one in the introduction. I added Big Toons and Shorts to the "Features" section, so it can include all of the toon categories. I removed the {{u}} icons because they made the page look complicated and cluttered. And I also removed the featured content, because it hardly ever gets updated. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 00:03, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
I don't feel particularly strongly one way or the other regarding the placement of the "Browse the knowledge base" section, though I think if it's laid out as in styles 1 and 2 it should be centered. While I agree that the {{u}} icons make the page look a little cluttered, the absence of them seems to produce the opposite problem, i.e. making that section of the page a bit sparse. DEI DAT VMdatvm center\super contra 18:38, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
This one is my favorite. Gets the strong bad tweets while also not having those tacky lil icons. TheThin 03:50, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
Oppose again, but for a different reason: it's too big of a change for a Wiki that has faded into obscurity. RickTommy (edits) 01:48, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
Again, why does this wiki's obscurity matter? Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 04:10, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
When no one is really looking at it regularly is the PERFECT time for big changes, because it's less disruptive. If anything, that's an argument FOR changing it. — Defender1031*Talk 20:36, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
So, this Main Page is pretty much perfect in my opinion. What does everybody else think? Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 18:53, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
Also, I think the article should be linked to, but where? Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 22:12, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
So, I think this design is pretty good (aside from the temporary twiceness of featured articles). I created a section on the talk page to discuss certain changes, such as which changes should be removed, what should be added or changed, etc. Hopefully, it will make things more organized and help to create the best possible Main Page. Feel free to discuss your opinions and ideas there. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 04:40, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
This discussion is continued here.

[edit] The old fanstuff wiki

Can I ask why the old Fanstuff Wiki has been closed? I know there's a second one but I'm just curious -- 20:45, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

The overall quality became increasingly poor to the point that we didn't want to host it anymore. While there were a few good things about it, it was largely a playground devoid of much substance. We tried to cut out most of the tired memes and drivel and start anew, but eventually even that became more trouble than it was worth. — It's dot com 20:55, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
Dude, are you kidding me?! The fanstuff was pretty cool and so was the art and little mini-games. -- 16:26, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
If you say so. — It's dot com 17:14, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

[edit] Main Page Glitch?

How come the pages are all back to normal colors and style, but the icon in the top-left corner is still Halloween themed? Is this happening to anyone else, or is it just me? Mml554 talk

Yeah, that's the case for me too. I seem to remember there was a brief time when the icon was normal type. Is it a mistake, or is it because of Fan Costumes 2016 besing released? Lira (talk) 22:03, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
I was waiting to change back from Halloween until after the fan costumes toon was released. I eventually gave up waiting, but then two days later they finally released the toon. Rather than change the whole theme back, I just put the Halloween logo back up for a few more days. — It's dot com 01:48, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
I also saw that the content of the day is showing both the fan costumes and the Thanksgiving toons. Should this be changed/fixed? Mml554 talk
It's intentional. Fan costumes have been up less than a week but today is Thanksgiving. I decided not to have to choose between them. — It's dot com 14:30, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
Clicking the snowflakes bring you to a random page; this makes me happy Mml554 talk

[edit] Deleted envelope since late 2015

Hi there! We detected that one letter saying "The Brothers Chaps" was removed, and we really want to know why they did this. We went to and detected it. Can anyone please tell us why? -- 22:26, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Because TBC decided to change it. That's really all anyone here knows, and really all that matters. — Defender1031*Talk 22:39, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

[edit] New Year logo

How did you get Homestar Runner to say 'Happy New Year'? Did you like, take some lines out of toons or did you get some Homestar Runner impressionists to say it? -- 22:09, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 42#HAPPY newyear. RickTommy (Talk | contribs) 22:29, 1 January 2017 (UTC) (left unsigned)

[edit] April Fools logo

Special:Logos You forgot that April Fools logo when Homestar says 'Umm what's going on here?'-- 15:40, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

[edit] Giving away a The Cheat hoody!

(Or rather, selling for the cost of shipping) Hello! I am trying to find a home for my The Cheat hoody which I got about 10 years ago but have scarcely worn. It's in good shape. A thrift store would be happy to have it, but I'd really like to get it in the hands of someone who is part of the fan community and would appreciate something like this. HR and hrwiki gave me some great times back in the day! Sorry if this isn't the optimum place to post this. If interested, see: link — (Talk | contribs) 22:03, 6 January 2017 (UTC) (left unsigned)

[edit] A History of Homestar...y

There's been another interview with TBC. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 01:08, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

This should probably get a page, right? Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 00:17, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
Go for it. — It's dot com 01:37, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

[edit] emails not responding to forum

I would like to join the forum but have emailed the admins numerous times and have gotten nothing. what can I do - RasterOfMandomness

I have created a forum account for you with that username. The forum software will email you an autogenerated password. -- Tom 02:15, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

[edit] Slowdowns

Is anyone else experiencing slowdowns whenever you try to access any page on the wiki? I assumed it was just my Wi-Fi connection, but only the wiki slows down and not any other website I tested. -- Mml554 talk 02:19, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

That happens whenever there's a new update because of all the activity. Nothing unusual, although it would be nice if it could be fixed. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 03:23, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
Although that would indeed be nice, beefing up our capabilities is impractical, unfortunately. Our current setup is fine nearly all of the time, and the official site doesn't update often enough to justify the expense or hassle of increased capabilities. — It's dot com 05:00, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
Since you joined the wiki last year, you may not be aware that it wasn't always like this. See also here and here. As much as the change was annoying initially, it does make a lot of sense given the low amount of traffic except for occasional absurd spikes. -- ■■   PURPLE  WRENCH   ■■ 01:01, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

[edit] Dating @Strongbadactual references

I think that whenever something makes a appearance in Strong Bad's twitter account it should have the date of the post next to it. It doesn't seem right to link the entire twitter account for a single post mention but it's not like it would be feasible to give each individual tweet it's own page. For example

Guybrush20X6 14:29, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

That's pretty much how we list references that showed up in weeklies as well. I'd support this. — Defender1031*Talk 14:33, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
Set up a sample on Doreauxgard‎ to see how it looked. Seems to work fine for me. Guybrush20X6 15:32, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
Guybrush20X6 - Typically no matter what date format we use, you want to leave off the ordinal suffix (In the above example, August 22, 2017 instead of August 22nd, 2017). The Knights Who Say Ni 20:33, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
NP, those Suffixes will be DELETED! in no time. Guybrush20X6 20:38, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
I like Purple Wrench's idea of "Tweet from @StrongBadActual on August 22, 2017". It might be too late to change it, but the current format has only recently been decided and it isn't used on many pages yet, so changing it wouldn't be a daunting task. I think it may be more professional and looks a bit nicer. It's a little longer, but it could be shortened to maybe "@StrongBadActual tweet from August 22, 2017". But if we keep the current one, that's good too. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 05:27, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

[edit] Worldbuilders

Should there be a page for [[Worldbuilders]]? Homestar Runner has helped them out three seperate times in the last couple years. And three is enough for an article, right? Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 04:13, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

There seems to be some misunderstanding about the so-called "rule of three". According to the inclusion guidelines, a minimum of "three or four" appearances are needed for something to qualify as a running gag. For everything else, there are different guidelines with different numbers and different weights given to the prominence of whatever the things in question is. — Defender1031*Talk 13:49, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I know that. I wasn't referring to the rule of three in any way; I was just asking if that number was notable enough for a page. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 07:26, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
So here's the thing. None of the categories of possible pages mentioned in the inclusion guidelines neatly encapsulate real-world organizations with which TBC are working (probably because the aforementioned guidelines were written before H*R was big enough to be worth collaborating with). In general, I'd say that ONE major collaboration with some real world entity would warrant a page (for example, Telltale Games, The Future Animators of the Future), but I'm on the fence about Worldbuilders as it seems to be more "we made a toon to help them promote their thing and occasionally tweet about it" rather than "we're working closely with them in a major way". I think I still lean vaguely in the direction of having a page though. — Defender1031*Talk 15:42, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
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