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<div style="background:gold;border:1px #990 dashed;padding:12px"><center>'''This page is preserved here as an archive. The votes are ''not'' active. Please see [[HRWiki:STUFF]] for active votes.'''</center></div>
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Shortcut:<br />[[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).
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The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).
Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''
Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''
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Check out [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive|The Archives]] and the [[HRWiki:over STUFF'd|over STUFF'd page]] for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.
Things that always make good fun facts:
Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
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* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
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* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")
Things that often do not make good fun facts:
Things that often do not make good fun facts:
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* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
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* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in ''The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy''...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
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* Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")
Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.
Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.
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If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.
If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.
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If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
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If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.
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[[Category:STUFF|Old STUFF]]
== Voting ==
== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
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* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
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* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
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* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)
The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.
The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.
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'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you. The name you sign must match the name in the edit history of this page. That is, you may not sign your vote with a name other than the account you're using, even if you own both of them.
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'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you.  
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You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).  If you don't, your vote will not be counted.
== To be done ==
== To be done ==
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**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.
**Or they're being moved to the talk pages for the e-mails/toons in question. We're not sure yet.
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== Toons and E-mails ==
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== STUFF'd Facts ==
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=== [[the facts]] ===
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===[[mile]]===
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==== Channel 3 ====
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====Fourth Wall Break?====
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Strong Bad made a [[Fourth Wall Break]] when he said that he wasn't going to answer an email that week.
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The television was on Channel 3. Most VCRs in the United States (and other NTSC countries) send their signals on channel 3 or 4.
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*'''Decline.''' I just don't think this is very interesting.  I'd guess that most people either know this (in an NTSC country) or don't care (everywhere else).  --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
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The Cheat made a [[Fourth Wall Break]] by making a Strong Bad Email complete with a loading screen and The Paper.
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==== Homestar's cartoon ====
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*I decided to STUFF my own fact after it was deleted (the top one) because I think it could be something of a fourth wall break. On the [[Talk:mile|Talk]] page, [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] said that if that isn't a break, perhaps the Cheat-powered email was, because it not only included just an email, but a loading screen and The Paper, which would not necessarily be needed there. Any revisions/rewrites would be helpful, as I usually can't word these well. I also realize that Strong Bad addressing the viewer isn't normally accepted, but I think the fact that he refused to answer an email from the audience has to be something. So I am going to '''accept''' this fact, although I suppose my vote is a bit biased in this case. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 11:03, 16 Jun 2005
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*'''Accept''' I'm gonna have to Accept this fact. --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 15:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Comment''' Probably my last chance for a personal comment on STUFF. Ahem. I want SO badly to vote on this, but I have a different view than almost everyone else on the Wiki concerning Fourth Wall Breaks. So I'll just comment: every single Strong Bad Email implies by its very nature that Strong Bad knows he's being watched (well, okay, in [[anything]] it's Homestar) so the first one is tremendously redundant. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second the comment.''' <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 18:00, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second the comment''' [[User:Eric|Eric]] 00:10, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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* Really, they break the fourth wall so often that its not really worth noting. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''COMMENT.''' Okay, so that may not be in everyone's best favor. What about the second one? --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 14:11, 16 Jun 2005 (EST)
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** '''Not neccesary'''. Strong Bad speaks to the camera and says that hes "not doing one this week". The entire e-mail is a fourth wall break (more so than normal) so its not neccesary to pick apart specific parts of it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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The irony of the conversation between Strong Bad and Homestar is that Homestar really ''does'' eponymously star in many of his own cartoons, however, because the website has been hijacked by Strong Bad to the extent that it's hardly Homestar's website any more, it may seem that Homestar doesn't have his own cartoon.
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===[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]]===
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*'''Rewrite/Decline.''' I'm not sure this belongs in Fun Facts, as written at least.  It's speculative, and the idea is obvious to most people. --[[User:Chrysaor|Chrysaor]]
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====Is Your Refrigerator Perry Running?====
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*'''Decline''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
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Strong Mad's greeting, "IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING" is obviously a reference to his attempted prank call in [[Marzipan%27s Answering Machine Version 4.0]]
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=== [[radio]] ===
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*'''Decline.''' I think they're both obvious references to the old prank call, but not to each other... <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 17:29, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:30, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline as written.''' But see revision below. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== Four-and-twenty stone ====
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'''REVISE TO:''' Strong Mad attempted almost the same prank greeting as in this toon on [[Marzipan%27s Answering Machine Version 4.0]].
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1936 Strong Bad mentions the radio adding "four-and-twenty stone to one's voice". This may be a reference to marijuana: in popular culture, 420 is the number of chemicals found in marijuana, and is often used as a sly reference. "Stone" may be a further play on words, referring to being "stoned", or high on marijuana, as well as to the unit of weight.
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*'''Accept the revision.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 01:18, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.''' I mean, he must ''really'' think that joke is funny. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 19:35, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*Please, please, please tell me that the reformed STUFF process will not allow mid-stream changes like this to take place. Sometimes you can hardly tell what is being voted on! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:23, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**This is similar to the new format. Everything below the words "revise to" above is separate from the original fact. Notice that I declined the original and accepted the revision. The '''[[HRWiki:STUFF/demo|new format]]''', which we hope to have ready in the next couple of days, will be more clear. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:34, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.''' Six of one, half dozen of the other, I guess. -- [[User:Ironcladlou|ironcladlou]]
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*'''Accept but revise''' I'd revise it to " Strong Mad's greeting, IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING", is almost the same as his greeting in Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.
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**'''Sorcorndorned!''' (seconded) [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 18:41, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Still Decline''' For the reason stated by Aurora. And once again, the revision is almost exactly like the fact originally submitted. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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**The difference is subtle, but the original fact states that one ''refers'' to the other, whereas the revision merely states that he tries the same joke again, like a running gag. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:26, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** Yeah, I got that. Theres still not that big a difference between the two different wordings. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:33, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.''' -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Accept.''' Much better. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:52, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' Unlikely. It's more probable that it's a reference to Sing a Song of Sixpence. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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===[[dangeresque 3]]===
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**'''Second.''' While I don't see how it's a reference to the nursery rhyme, any more than it's a reference to the Chaucerian miller, I believe [[TBC]] wouldn't promote marijuana here. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
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====So holdable a gun====
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>'']] 16:39, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
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The line, "Here comes little email with a gun in his hand," is an exact mimic of the line "Here comes little THORAX with a gun in his hand," found on [http://www.thoraxcorp.com/intern.html this] Thoraxcorp.com page.
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**'''Second.''' The 420 chemicals part is a myth. The number refers to 4:20pm, supposedly when most people light up.  I concur with beanluc, although putting 4:20 next to "stone" should have been avoided. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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==== The fish was delish ====
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*'''Neutral''' Not really sure I care. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universes]]
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Strong Bad's test phrase may be a refrence to "104.7, The Fish", a popular christian radio station in Atlanta.
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*'''Accept''' I personally don't care, but I'm sure some people would.  Its a true fun fact. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 03:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.''' It's worth noting. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:21, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 12:40, 11 Jun 2005 (EST)
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**'''Second.''' Good fun fact. Cute refrence. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 16:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''' Yeah, I like it. --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 13th June, 2005
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*'''Accept.''' --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 18:01, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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(Why I think so:I live near Atlanta, and "The Fish" has billboards up all over the place. It's nearly impossible to live in Atlanta for more then three weeks and not see one. TBC Must have at least heard of them. Plus, as this was an email about radio, I don't think it's much of a strech. -James)
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====People's Court====
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As he drives, Strong Bad hums "The Theme From Dangeresque," which is actually "The [http://www.80stvthemes.com/ra/PEOPLESCOURT.ra theme] From [[Wikipedia:The_People%27s_Court|The People's Court"]].
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*'''Duh-duh Decline!''' I don't think so. And don't sign your new facts; sign your votes. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:50, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**You've have got a looooooad of nerve telling me not to edit other people. The only reason I'm on this useless STUFF page is because other people, including you, wouldn't leave my post alone.
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*** Okay, drop the flaming. On article pages, people are perfectly entitled to remove facts that they don't like, within reason. It is NEVER acceptable to alter someone's comments on a talk page (this isn't TECHNICALLY a talk page but the same rules apply) for any reason, short of removing an entire discussion for space reasons or because it has been obsoleted. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:13, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''' If you just listen to the intro you won't get it. But if you listen at 0:35 and 3:34 it is plain that it is the same theme. It is not the same recording but the same music. Everyone I've shown it to agreed and was grateful that I figured out where they'd heard it before. --[[User:Freshmutt|FM]] 21:52, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** That wasn't meant as an insult, I was attempting (though perhaps failing) to imitate the Dangeresque theme in my Decline. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' I listened to it at those times, and while it is very similar, I must say that it is highly unlikely that TBC used the exact theme.  That would leave them open to copyright infringement, which would be bad.  I do think it sounds like it could be the inspiration, but it is in no way the same song  --[[User:Some HSR themed username|Some HSR themed username]] 21:57, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** I got news for you  Johnnie Cockran, censoring the info on this page will not protect TBC from copyright infringement. What protects them is that what they do is parody. How do you think they get away with all the Decemberween costumes? They use bits of other peoples work all the time. The best way for them to get in trouble is to NOT admit that it the People's Court and claim it as original. Just ask George Harrison, Ray Parker Jr. and Vanilla Ice.
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***Actually, I'd say it's better to give someone else credit for their work than to use their work and claim it as your own.  --[[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 03:19, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' I just listened (ugh, Real Player) and it's certainly not exactly the same song. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 23:08, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' Not the same song, no matter how much FM wants it to be. As for copyright info, parody is protected under the fair use law so long as you don't make money off it. TBC have had issues with people stealing thier work before so I doubt they'd be so quick to do it to others. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Decline.''' It's actually an old broadcasting cliché - that phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in the recording/broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
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===[[Experimental Film]]===   
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**Please see below as I'm adding this as a fact for consideration. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
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====The Water====   
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The image of Strong Sad and the ATM knee-deep in water may be a reference to a scene in the film "Donnie Darko," where a [http://img300.echo.cx/img300/1626/floodedschoolintheexperimental.png similar image] can be seen, and it may also be the experimental film Strong Sad mentions in his commentary.
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*'''Decline''' I think its just a coincidence.  -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' Boo BOOOO!! A pox on the maker of this fun fact! And using may twice? For shame! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universes]]
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*Oh, well I'll just get out my ''thesaurus!'' --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 05:53, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Decline with a comment.''' So wait, VolatileChemical, is that a decline? Or is that just a comment? --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 13:20, 11 Jun 2005 (EST)
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** '''Second''' both the vote and the question. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:24, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*It was just a sarcastic comment. No, it wasn't a decline in any way. Are the submitters even aloud to vote? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 02:42, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** If they're not ''allowed'' to vote, then I break the rules left and right - I almost always vote on a fact right as I submit it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:21, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*** I think it's a good idea for a submitter to vote and explain his/her vote, so other users can see why it was stuffed in the first place. And '''decline''' to this ridiculous fact. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 01:28, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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****I usually just delete silly facts like this one. When I do STUFF, I most certainly vote! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:20, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*****'''Second''' to all these subcomments. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:25, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:32, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Donnie Declineo''' Sorry. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:38, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*My mouth tastes like... '''Decline.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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====The fish was delish and it made quite a dish====
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===[[sisters]]===
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Strong Bad's test phrase is an old broadcasting cliché. The phrase has been used to test the levels of the '''F''' and '''SH''' sounds in audio signals for recording, public address and broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", sounding like intense hisses, the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 15:47, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
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====Love/Hate Relationship====
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"I hate this computer" is probably a reference to "I liked that computer" in [[gimmicks]].
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*'''Accept''' This seems to be a clear reference to me, but people keep deleting it because they don't see a connection. The joke is, of course, that Strong Bad pronounced that he liked the computer in "gimmicks" but rescinds on that statement as soon as he gets annoyed. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 21:05, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' Makes sense to me. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 19:00, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
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**'''Second.''' Aurora's comment rings true. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:41, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:45, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''<s>Neutral.</s>''' Well, when he said that he hated the computer, I did recall that he had previously stated that he liked the computer. The fun fact is speculatory, but it's not too big of a stretch, so... I'm staying neutral on this one for now. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**Aw, what the hey? Everybody else is doing it, so... '''Accept.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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***Oh, I almost forgot to tell you... Later on today we're all going to go jump off a cliff. See you there! ;)
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****I'll be there! --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
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*****Don't let your mom catch wind of our plans, though. I ''know'' she'll just try to talk you out of it using some ol' clich&eacute;. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
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******"Well if Strong Bad jumped off a--" "Yes!" --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 02:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''' ^^ That was pretty weird. Anyways, I always thought that was obvious, but I'd still accept it. --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 13th June, 2005
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*'''Decline'''Not because it isn't true, but because it explains the joke. Fun facts like that aren't fun. Sometimes its GOOD to let viewers figure this stuff out on their own. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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**The point of inside references to explain when the joke relies on something else on the website which the viewer may not have seen. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 22:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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***'''Second''' Aurora's comment. I never read the fun facts until after watching the email a coupla times, so there's no problem with a joke explanation spoiling it for me - in fact, it gives me a bonus chuckle. [[User:Eric|Eric]] 00:24, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** I undestand the concept behind inside references. Jeez, condescend much? But whatever, this fact is going to pass anyway so theres not much point arguing about it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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***I'm just saying, what's the point of voting on Stuff if you're against the idea of Inside References? <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 15:17, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*** I'm not against inside references (and even if I was, wouldn't that give me even more reason to vote on these?) its just that the joke seems pretty self explanatory. Even more so considering that Gimmicks up to Sisters is meant to be seen as a continuing story of sorts.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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**** It's not self-explanatory if the viewer has not seen [[gimmicks]], which is the whole point of this fact -- to let the viewer know that this email relates to [[gimmicks]]. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 18:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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****Assumedly, most people aren't running to the Wiki before they view these cartoons. I stand by my statement: the joke is self explanatory. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*****Most people don't watch all Strong Bad emails in order. They could just have seen "sisters" and not "gimmick." <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 23:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*****Like I said: Most people aren't running to the wiki before they watch the cartoons. Meaning that the facts listed here are for people who are interested in knowing the more obscure things about the toons. This joke isn't obscure. Erego, its not worth listing because most people will get it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Modify.''' Could you find a reference?  My Googling turned up cooking poets. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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===[[Homestar Runner's Website]]===
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**Poems about cooking or physically having poets for dinner? :P
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:Ehm... '''Second''', I guess. Get a reference and it's most likely an Accept from me.--[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 14:15, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
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==== Crackity towel! ====
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====World Wide Wed...SB reference?====
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Strong Mad's confused reply to Strong Sad's announcer-voice tirade in the easter egg may refer to Coach Z's "Crackity towel!" in [[Halloween Fairstival]].
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Wedsite may refer to Strong Bad's Website, because one of the .gif images says "World Wide Wed".  
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*'''Decline.''' A vast stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*Uh, no. It may not. '''Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 03:27, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' That's barely a reference. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]
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*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:19, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>'']] 21:56, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''...In their DECLINED FUN FACTS! DECLINED FUN FACTS!''' Aunt Gert may refer to SBEmail 22! Homestar may refer to Homsar! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 02:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Ditto.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:42, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''This sort of thing is getting really old.''' I would appreciate it if everyone would refrain from placing their emotional outbursts on STUFF. They're fun facts, people, not heinous insults about your mothers. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 18:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:42, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**I've been against the whole Fun Fact Validation Committee thingummybob, but y'know, maybe I'm changin' my mind. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:42, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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***[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] was working on a fun fact revamp a while ago which would get rid of this sort of thing. We should probably think about getting that up. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 18:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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****Let me make a couple of modifications, and then if it's okay with everyone, I'll put a link to it on this page. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:39, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== Senor Cardgage ====
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===[[boring (really)]]===
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====102 Exclamations====
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There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates (an even 100 distinct words).
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*'''Weak Decline.''' Obviously, this is true, so that's not the issue here. But is it noteworthy? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Weak Accept'''. For people who might vaguely be interested seeing it there, but couldn't be bothered counting for themselves... {{User:phlip/sig}} 19:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.''' Meh, why not?  But change it to say, "There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates. That makes an even 100 distinct words." --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:55, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second''' but that rewrite doesn't sound quite right. Chaneg the period after duplicates to a comma and the that to which.
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**'''Second.''' Geez, I thought there were only 50 or so... sounds "fun" enough for me. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 19:04, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
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*'''Accept.''' Shrug. And I'm the one that added it! I was curious, so I counted 'em. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline'''  Yeah.  Its true.  However, these are called "Fun Facts" for a reason, and people can count for themselves if they really want to.  I dunno why anyone would, but... -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:26, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Weak Accept.''' 'Ey, people might be curious, and this'll save 'em the time it takes to count the words. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 16:59, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Comment''' Do you actually think that someone would seriously care how many words Strong Bad typed?  Hey if so I think we need to put a wordcount on all of the sbemails from now..just in case.  And while you are at it, it might be necessary to count exacly how many frames there are in each toon.  People might be curious. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:21, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.''' I think it is interesting that there are exactly 100 unique words. --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 21:28, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second''' Yeah, if it was any more or less i'd say declined--[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
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*'''Accept''' Why not? --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
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*'''Try, wet, cod, ACC, EPT''' I am way too lazy to count myself. KEEP IT! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 18:42, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Universal Decline''' This vote goes for this and the facts below. Since they're clearly not goofs (why remove the link if its going to be back up about two seconds later?) and because they're not interesting enough to be remarks. This is just anal cataloging, not trivia. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Accept!! >:(''' There is nothing anal about this! This is what a Fun Fact is supposed to be! I don't see anything at all wrong with this. The only anal thing here is declining this! -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** They did it on purpose, its not really interesting...soooo...I declined it. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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Strong Bad's college radio voice sounds suspiciously like [[Senor Cardgage]].
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====Are these really goofs? part 1====
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You can still click on The Paper, the "back" link on the Lappy 486, and the Easter Egg words even when the screen fades to black temporarily.
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*'''Decline.''' Uninteresting, and I don't think it was a mistake on TBC's part. The links don't disappear in Flash just because you're changing colors. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' I think it's less of a goof, and more of a "why should TBC care if it does that?" <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 19:45, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' [[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 21:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Weak Accept.''' It wasn't listed as a Goof last I saw. I think it's okay under the heading "Strong Bad's List of Words" or "Remarks" but not under "Goofs." I don't feel too strongly either way about this one. I don't think it'd hurt to have it around, but it wouldn't break my heart to see it gone. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:31, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Relocate?''' I think that this (as well as both the other "goofs," but I don't feel like triple-voting) could just go in its own "remarks" section. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 13:06, 8 Jun 2005 (EST)
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**'''Comment.''' This "goof" was a remark in the first place. The only reason it's being declined is because whomever STUFF'd it claimed that it was listed as a goof. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 06:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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***'''I'll upset ''your'' balance.''' (Sorry, I've always wanted to say that.) I didn't try to find out this fact's whole history, but [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=boring_%28really%29&diff=93605&oldid=93598 when I STUFF'd it], it was definitely listed as a goof. Either way, my vote would still be to decline it no matter where it would be listed. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:45, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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***My vote is decline whether it's a goof or a remark. I just don't think it's an interesting fact. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 22:35, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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****'''No probalo!''' If you choose to decline it because you don't find it very interesting, then that's fine. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:04, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Prepare to experience the fury of.... Accepppt... *cerkit*''' Relocate to Remarks and this would be fine; they've noted this in other places.
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*'''Decline.''' That's because Strong Bad and Cardgage have the same voice. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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====Are these really goofs? part 2====
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*'''Decline.''' The college radio voice has different inflections and doesn't use "almost words" like Cardgage. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]
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The "back" link in the far lower left corner is still there after the Lappy 486 fades back in.
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**'''Second'''ed on both accounts. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:43, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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<div style="color:#555">''This fact was removed from the goofs section. If you vote to accept it, be sure to indicate whether you consider it a true goof or just a remark.''</div>
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*'''Decline.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>'']] 21:59, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' It was probably more trouble to make it completely disappear than to just make it transparent. Possibly a remark, but not a goof. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''' I disagree. They could have completely removed it (the other "Back" button is still there) so this should be noted. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**Do you mean as a remark or a goof? A remark I could go for, but I don't think it qualifies as a bona fide goof. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:24, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*** Remark. I didn't pay close attention to your vote. Yeah, it's very questionable that this is a "Goof." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' It's okay as a remark, but if this is noted, then the STUFF'd fact above it should be used instead. Neither one should be used as a goof though. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:38, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''' I think this is noteworthy..it surprised me. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:02, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''' Ooh, a variation of the fun fact I put in. I should have STUFF'd it myself instead of adding it, but anyways, I think hat since at the end there are two back buttons, which is uncommon, or possibly never happened before, it's a quality fun fact. I like it. --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 13th June, 2005
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**Oh, whoops. Forgot to say whether it's a goof or remark. Truly, I don't know what they mean exactly, I'm quite new to the wiki, but as long as it gets accepted, I don't care (If someone could clear up what the diference between a goof and remark is, that'd be great) --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]]
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***Have a look at [[HRWiki:Standards#Fun Facts]]. As for the fact, '''Accept''' as a remark. Also, welcome to the wiki, Ju Ju. {{User:phlip/sig}} 14:30, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== Crackotage ====
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====Are these really goofs? part 3====
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If you click "try, wet, cod," and leave it up, it will still be there when the screen fades back in.
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*'''Decline.''' Yeah, so? Again, if anything this is a remark, not a goof. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 00:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:04, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept, but not as Goof'''This is actually worth noting, kinda. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:42, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Strong Sad's radio announcer voice sounds suspiciously like [[Crackotage]]
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====&#171;Insert hilarious joke here&#187;====
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The way Strong Bad pronounces the phrase "Her" (here) is similar to the way that rap artist Nelly pronounces the word in the song "Hot in Herre", and is possibly a reference to such.
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*'''Decline.''' Again, a vast stretch. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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* '''Decline''' The word "her" isn't even in the song "Hot in Herre" (google for lyrics). So, at best this "fact" is that SB pronounces the word "Her"  the same way Nelly pronounces the word "Herre". Which is about as likely to be a reference as it is to the fact that SB pronounces it similar to the way my roommate pronounces the word "her". --[[User:Eytanz|Eytanz]] 09:14, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second''' --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]
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* '''And fwom now on, people named Henwy cannot call themselves Hank; that's just too much of a stwetch. As is this Fun Fact. Decline!''' Why wasn't this deleted instead of STUFF'd? This one is so stretched, it's capable of reaching other galaxies. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 14:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>'']] 22:00, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second - DECLAN-ATED!''' [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]] 14:58, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' They're very similar, but not the same. Also not sure if it's productive to nitpick Matt's voices, such as complaining that the kids from [[Malloween Commercial]] sound like Strong Sad. Didn't keep me from enjoying the toon. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:39, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:43, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' He said "her" because he took off the last "e". Simple as that.  
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*'''Second.''' It's seems more like how the word "hair" is pronounced in the song "Right Thur". --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 11:37, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
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*'''Decline'''Probably not good material for a Fun Fact.
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*'''Revise''' When originally posted, this did not limit the reference to the one song.  Strong Bad has referenced modern hip-hop on several occasions, but most people refuse to believe this for some reason.  This is totally a reference to southern rappers (such as Nelly and Chingy) and their pronounciation.  If not, why?
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==== Bruce Almighty ====
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====You said doyng again!====
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Strong Bad's hesitation before saying "doing" to Homestar is a reference to Homestar's commentary on the word in [[car]].
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*'''Accept!''' Cute fun fact. I've always liked that "doing" thing.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:13, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** Maybe it's cute, and maybe you liked the "doing" thing&mdash;but does that make it a reference? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.''' This got deleted, but I think it's a valid reference. As soon as Strong Bad said "what are you..." I immediately thought "you said doyng again!" Maybe that's just me. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 15:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' When Strong Bad hesitated ("What are you, ummm..."), I leaned forward with anticipation to see if he would say "doing" or "doyng", and what Homestar's response would be.  I decline this because it isn't a reference; Strong Bad just hesitated because he was bored... and thats what... bored people... do.  Now if Homestar said something about "doyng" in response, I would have accepted this. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 15:39, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' I was one of the deleters. I maybe should have been a little more explicit about why. Well, this is why. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' I, too, thought he might say it... and then he didn't &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' Yeah, and Homestar hesitates before saying "closing," which is OBVIOUSLY a reference to [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], when the door closes after you give each treat. Come on, this is a coincidence. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' I don't think its even a coincidence because there is no connection to this and Car other than the word "doing". At any rate this e-mail contains alot of awkward pauses so yeah, I doubt any of them were meant to be references. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Accept''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' I'll admit, I <i>thought</i> he was about to make that reference there, but he didn't. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 17:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept'D''' Mmm-hmm. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''' - it's not just a simple pause. Strong Bad grabs his head like he's reconsidering saying it because of the potential horrible consequences. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 05:55, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept!''' - That's what I thought of when I saw it. Besides, that pause is large, even compared to the rest... of... the... e-mail... -- [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] 11:24, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*It's not THAT large, and the "grabs his head" doesn't really mean much - Strong Bad does that a lot. Maybe he's just scratching his head because he doesn't know what Homestar is doing. If the word "doyng" had actually been heard from either party, this reference would be clear, but it didn't. "Doing" is just a word, and a pause is sometimes just a pause. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Comment''': It wasn't ''just'' a pause. He said, "What are you... '''um'''... doing..."
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*** Still doesn't mean anything. Homestar used to put "um" before every third word regardless of context. This is nothing more than simple speculation. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:10, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' Like Jay said, "doing" is just a word. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 20:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' Mighty big piece of conjecture there. --[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 17:18, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Acceptinating the Countryside.''' I think we ALL remember that one. -Walking Armless
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**Of course we all remember that one. The people who post here don't forget stuff like that. But is this a reference? I know it comes ''close'', but does Strong Bad ''actually'' reference "car"? No, he does not. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:53, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''You said ACCEPTED again!''' --[[User:Iml91|Iml91]] 20:14, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''DID YOU JUST SAY "ACCEPT"?''' --[[User:Poopsmith Z|Me]]
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* This fact is currently WINNING?!?! I'm really losing faith in STUFF between this and facts like "Change of Pace"... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**You know whats even worse? The people who are declining the "get out of here kid" fact are using the same logic we're using to decline this one. And theres not that big a difference between this fact and that one. A repeated (and incredibly common) phrase does not contstitute a reference. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*** Or the fact right below this, which was somewhat ironically Declined by one of this fact's Acceptors. I sometimes think that people vote on the facts they simply want to be true, regardless of whether or not they really believe them to be. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:05, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''What are you, um... Declining?''' I decline this, because there is no way TBC would put a stupid reference like that in. It was to make them talk slower, people!!! --[[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 23:47, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) !!!!
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*'''Accept''' Not only do i think this is a reference, i love that joke, i quote it several times a day even "um...what are you doyng?" by the way, doing is spelled the same as doing, hm....[[User: Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
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"That's the way the cookie crumbles" was Bruce Nolan's sign off phrase for his newscasting job in the Jim Carrey movie "Bruce Almighty."
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====Oops, I STUFF'd it!====
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Homestar saying "Oops, I lost it." is probably a reference to him saying "Oops, you bwoke it." in a similar voice in the [[System Sounds|system sounds quote pack]].
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*'''Decline.''' A common phrase, not unique to Bruce Almighty. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Decline.''' Homestar reuses words in the English language, as we all do. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**But has it ever been used on the TV or Radio before the movie? --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
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*'''Decline.''' This is an obvious reference to the '''Decline''' above. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:52, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**Yes..Yes it has. I remember hearing it on The Simpsons in 1997 so this should be declined.. Which leads us to a '''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
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*'''Decline.''' I think ''not'' sir. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 14:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**That's what I needed to hear...'''Second.''' --[[User:BegyLips|BegyLips]]
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*but they both have the word oops in it guys!!...lol..but yeah '''decline'''
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**'''Second.''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:44, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**You're supposed to sign your vote, you know... I'm gonna remain '''neutral''' on this one because it close but a bit too stretchy. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 14:38, 12 Jun 2005 (EST)
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**'''Second.''' [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:37, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Decline.''' Correct to point out overwhelming similarity, but that's b/c both lines were said by Homestar, and that's the way he talks. Imagine making Fun Facts every time Strong Bad said "deleted."  [[User:Svelt|Svelt]] 06:00, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' Didn't realize I hadn't voted on this. People keep adding it EVERY DAY, so I've added a comment (only visible to someone trying to edit the page) NOT to add the Bruce Almighty "reference". --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:15, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' Sometimes people just say stuff. --[[User:Ju Ju Master|Ju Ju Master]] 13th June, 2005
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==== Plugged in ====
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====Boring sound====
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The machine drilling sound is similar to that of the sun-buzzsaw in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]].
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Homestar's radio is plugged into the same socket where his cow lamp used to be plugged-in.
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*'''Decline.''' Not only are these sounds not the same pitch, they aren't even for the same tool. This is just a noise that sounds somewhat similar to another noise on the site, and just like some re-used words on the site, it is certainly ''not'' a reference whatsoever. I decline this as a possible Remark, too, because this comparison is highly irrelevant. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:17, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' Reusing the same sound effects, the same graphical effects (these fireworks are the same ones from that one main page), and especially the same words from the English language do not count as references. If an entire phrase or event from another toon is reused, maybe with a 25% difference at the most, then it might be a legitimate fun fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 01:24, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:43, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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* Bah, you guys are missing an even more important point: Strong Bad makes both sound effects. Of course they sound similiar. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Decline.''' because we can't see where it's plugged in AT ALL. Or maybe '''rewrite''' to state that it's on the same DESK. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:54, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
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===[[Senorial Day]]===
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*'''Decline.''' - Just not interesting. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:37, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
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====Vera low====
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**'''Second.''' Who cares? --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
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The word "vera" from when Senor Cardgage says "vera low prices" actually means "true" in Italian, "genuine" in Greek, and "side" in Spanish.
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:40, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Decline''' Which might mean something if it wasn't just Senor Cardgage mispronouncing "very." I mean, "doe" is a real word (in English, no less!) but we don't have a fact explaining its meaning when Cardgage says "Doe NOT miss out!" --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:39, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:55, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 14:48, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' I wouldn't have minded seeing this under Trivia, but then again, I can see its irrelevance. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:21, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second'''. Prezactly. {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:07, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Sort of Accept''' Scince his name is SENOR Cardgage, this could support the assumation that he could be from a Latin/Hispanic country.
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** It's Senor, but not Se&ntilde;or. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:28, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*If it were in Spanish, I think it would have had to be prounounced like "bera". It could also be taken as Cardgage once again using a woman's name for no good reason as Vera is an actual name. 'Nother words, this fact is just another TTOTOT canidate. '''Decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universes]]
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==== Highball! ====
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===[[little animal]]===
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====Used once more====
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The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in [[Where's The Cheat?]].
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*Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so '''Rewrite''' as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from [[Where's The Cheat?]]." {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second''' This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''second''' Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!"''' I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''second''' "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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** They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*9_9. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Let's hear your best "DECLINED."''' In order to be a "fun fact," it has to be "fun."  This is just dumb and boring. - [[User:aaronak|aaronak]] 11:42, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''' for '''Trivia.'''  This isn't terribly interesting information, but TBC rarely reuse music, so it is notable. -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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The way in which Homestar says "highball!" when throwing the glass at the radio is a reference to how he said "hi-ya!" during the Champeenship in [[montage]]
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===[[time capsule]]===
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====The Life Saving Turtle====
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The turtle featured in the newspaper clipping is the same one used in [[new hands]].
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*'''Neutral''' This was a reference of mine that I put up that seems to have fallen by the wayside. I personally picked up on the similarity almost immediately, but I shall put it up to vote this time. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 17:12, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*D'oh, how come I didn't see this? I compared the screenshots. And...they look like the same thing. So, for me, it's an '''ACCEPT?!''' -[[User:BurninatorBoombox&Markie|<font color=DC143C>MK and/or BurnBox</font>]] 22:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''' I thought exactly the same thing (before you posted it on the Wiki), so I'm accepting this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:14, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''I'm not gonna call him Slowbie, now I'm gonna call him ACCEPT.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Accept.''' Good eyes. -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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**'''Second.''' I thought he was saying "hi-ya" to begin with. --[[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:45, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second'''. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:39, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
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=== [[animal]] ===
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===[[Main Page 22]]===
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====ALL WRONG.......====
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Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.
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==== Deep Sea Fangily Fish ====
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'''VERDICT:''' The fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Main Page 22]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:16, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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The deep sea fangly fish was featured in the beginning of The Simpsons on December 12th 2004, sorry if I didn't edit this right, I tried my best.
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*'''Neutral.''' I have to see it to beleive it. Can anyone get any information, maybe a picture or something? http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:simpfanglyfish.jpg
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'''CONTEST:''' I believe this fact was rejected for mistaken reasons. Examine the evidence and you'll agree. I have therefore contested this ruling on the respective [[Talk:Main Page 22#Contest|talk page]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Note: Also did some minor edits to the fact (Grammar and punctuation). -[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
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*'''Decline.''' - I don't see any connection with The Simpsons, here. The Fangly Fish is similar to the angler fish, an actual fish which also happens to appear in ''Finding Nemo'' and elsewhere. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' - It's just an angler fish. It's yellow, it doesn't have the Strong Bad mask or the Homestar lure or the deck, and it's WAY too close to the creation of the e-mail for this to be even remotely likely (most television shows, including the Simpsons, are filmed months before airing.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 17:07, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' People are taking this deep sea fangly fish thing way out of proportion. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:46, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:41, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
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==== Pikmin thing? ====
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===[[HomestarRunner.com: PAY PLUS!|HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]===
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the red steckled elbermung may be a paradoy of the bulborb from the game Pikmin.
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====Unaired Episodes!====
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"teenage girl show!
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Revamped for the 90's.
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More humor! Finer dining!
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See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"
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*'''Note:''' I thought this might have merit, given that I've not played ''[[Wikipedia:Pikmin|Pikmin]]'' and it's not impossible, to my knowledge, that it could be a parody. Either way I don't think it deserved to just drop off like it did, and since I didn't want to get involved in an edit war, let's let it at least get Declined/Accepted first. (If it does get accepted, though, it desperately needs a rewrite. Bad grammar ahoy.) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 13:04, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
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I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. [[User:Purplefeltangel|Purplefeltangel]] 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' What?  Pikmin?  Well, maybe other people will see the connection but I sure didn't.--[[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
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*'''Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED...''' Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' [http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/index.php?function=view_thread&threadid=340253 There's some similarity], but I doubt it. --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:53, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept'd!''' That does make sense.  I think it's a good find.  And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Nuetral''' I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
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*'''Decline''' I'm quite familiar with the game Pikmin (it's a favorite of mine), yet The Red Steckled Elbermung does not look anything like a Bulborb. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 17:04, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**<strike>'''Comment''' RACISM</strike> Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--[[User:Because, It's Midnite|Because, It's Midnite]]
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*To quote Strong Bad: '''"No no no."''' [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:47, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*** '''What?''' By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
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****By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. [[User:The_Pardack|The Pardack]]
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*****Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... '''Weak Accept!''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.''' If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
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*Uh, "I think?" '''Automatic Decline.''' --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
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*Hmmm. '''Decline!''' Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Revise and Accept''' The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Minor revise and Accept'''Cut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Nah, Decline.''' You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
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*'''Revise and accept.''' Make it like this:
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<pre>The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the
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well-known Japanese series Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It
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was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out,
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including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.</pre>
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I could live with that. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|<font color=green>Joshua</font>]]''''' 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
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==== Finding Nemo ====
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*'''Accepted for the '90s!''' --[[User:kerrek slaya|kerrek slaya]] 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
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Deep-sea fangly fish, looks like the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo.
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*'''Accept.''' Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
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*'''Decline''' I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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**'''Sailor Second.''' A rather speculative connection.  The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Comment''' If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|<font color=green>Joshua</font>]]'''''
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*Acceptalized. [[User:82.43.178.225|82.43.178.225]]
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*'''Rainbow Moon Heart Accept!''' Nice find! -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 24 May 2005
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*'''Accept.''' It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Comment''' This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
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**Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 18:18, 26 May 2005
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**Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke.  [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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***'''Second (the decline).'''  If Sailor Moon had, at some point been advertised with phrases along the lines of "revamped for the 90s!  See the episode where everyone dies!" I'd agree, but as it stands, I can't see that there's enough of a connection.  It would be as if your friend said, "My orange tabby cat is 23 years old--all she does is sleep all day," and somehow concluding that your friend was making a joke reference to Garfield. --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline, yo.''' Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Another comment''' - Actually, it's probably not even referencing ''anything.'' - [[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]]
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*'''Decline''' It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 00:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Enilced!!!''' I don't think TBC watches Sailor Moon anyhow.[[User:EdgeKing|EdgeKing]] 20:41, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
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*'''Decline.''' This item was closed and listed as being "unanimously accepted". That's not true at all. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.'''  Provided the similarities mentioned are true.... 1. TBC watch anime (i.e., Japanese cartoon & Stinko Man); 2. TBC have previously made explicit reference to Sailor Moon (Mainpage 17); and 3. both Teen Girl Squad and Sailor Moon have four original main characters that are teeny-bopper girls.  I don't watch or like the series but I see the similarity.  -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Decline.''' [http://en.wikipedia.org/Anglerfish Anglerfish] are by no means exclusive to Finding Nemo. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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=== [[The Luau]] ===
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
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==== Unexpected guests? ====
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' This is a general comment not a reference citation. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:17, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:55, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>'']] 22:02, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Revise & Accept''' change "the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo" to "an [http://en.wikipedia.org/Anglerfish Anglerfish]" and this could be ok! --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera, who hasn't seen the page yet.]]
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*'''accept''' [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] Hmm, I first mentioned this on the [[Deep Sea Fangly Fish]] page.. one thing that differentiates both this and the finding nemo fish from a real anglerfish is the "christmas lights". *shrug*
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**Are you sure about that? I saw Finding Nemo and as far as I can remember, the anglerfish in that film was pretty standard. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Delete''' This has been made irrelevant by the inclusion of a similar, but more relevant anglerfish comment on the page [[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
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*'''Decline''' Sure, like angler fish never ever existed in anything besides Finding Nemo... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' Chased Marlin and Dory?  I don't think that the fangly-fish has anything to do with Finding Nemo.
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*'''Decline''' - The angler fish has appeared elsewhere and is not exclusive to ''Nemo''. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
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==== Second Wall Breaking ====
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In Strong Bad's marshmallow roast, he was seen with 16 name tags. Yet, at the time, only 11 characters existed, and even if Homsar did, there would still be too many. Also, Strong Sad and Marzipan were at the luau, and the KOT was uninvited, so only eight tags were used, (Unless someone wasn't wearing one).
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This is yet another e-mail when Strong Bad seems to know he's being watched by people in the line "goodbye everybody"
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*'''Decline.''' Don't over-brain a joke! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:29, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' I think TBC were just filling up screen space. By cartoon logic, we can assume that Strong Bad bought a whole pack of nametags and decided to use them all. Furthermore, this fact is simply uninteresting. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad was probably hoping some girls would show up :p <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 17:50, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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***'''Comment...''' But why would he call the girls "crap-for-brains"? -[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 20:46, 16 Jun 2005
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*'''Decline.''' I think that fourth wall breakage should be listed on its own seperate page at this point, as it's been done so much. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
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===[[unused emails]]===
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
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====CDs====
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*''Decline.''' I made a new [[Fourth Wall Breaks]] page for this sort of thing. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
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This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.
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*'''Decline''' A lot (if not all) of the emails give me the impression that Strong Bad knows he's being watched. Therefore, this fact isn't interesting to me. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
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*'''Decline''' It'd be more interesting to detail the instances they don't break the fourth wall. I mean, Strong Bad addresses the audience in the first few e-mails. --[[User:tender branson|tender branson]]
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*'''Decline.''' Haven't we had something about the fourth wall in here already? Strong Bad Email in itself breaks the fourth wall. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Decline''' The Strong Bad e-mails make no sense if he doesn't realize he's being watched. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' Strong Bad usually says something like "Send me email!" --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:18, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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==== Soolnd ====
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*'''Decline.''' At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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The Pardack has one of Strong Sad's legs as one of its arms
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*'''possible rewrite'''I get what this one is saying. Strong Bad's computer is clearly too old to have a CD drive and therefore wouldn't be able to burn CDs. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
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*'''Rewrite.''' This would work as a Remark or an "oops!" in that the Compy can't write CD's.  No evidence yet that the Tangerine Dream can burn CD's, so that should be left out. -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Decline.''' Has been noted in transcript, is obvious to anyone watching the email. --[[user:Vannav|Vannav]]
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===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:19, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
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**'''Second.''' -- Wow, a lot of seconds.... --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
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**'''Second.''' I think this one's pretty much decided. --[[User:LynkStarr|LynkStarr]]
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**Now, I'm sorry I did this to whoever made the funfact but... '''Second'''-- [[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>'']] 22:03, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
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==== LCD Screen ====
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====Different Colors====
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When you click on the screen of the Lappy, it goes all "wavy", like on a normal labtop.
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The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.  
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*'''Decline''' Already been noted --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
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*'''Decline''' "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
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*'''Decline (but move)''' It's a feature of the Lappy, not directly due to this email. Move it to the Lappy page. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
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**'''Second'd'''. Decline for same reasons.[[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 20:16, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Comment''' Zelda isn't the only game or series of games, true; the game that sprung to mind was Super Mario Brothers 2, where several enemies had red and blue forms that affected their movement. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 19:55, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 12:45, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Decline.''' This is already at the [[Lappy 486]] page. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 07:16, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
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==== Ridiculous ====
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====Tiny eye difference====
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The statement that Strong Bad says "{The Cheat} uses NO computers!" is incorrect, since the Cheat animated the Fangly fish animation with his [Tangerine Dreams] computer
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The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 5 and the right eye of the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?) If you don't believe me, go to Fanstuff.Hrwiki.org, look at cheat Stinkoman 20X6, download it, go to level 4. Then, press "U" and "3". You will see the difference.
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*'''Decline.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Massive Rewrite'''<blockquote>The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 &mdash; they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.</blockquote>That second phrase could possibly go too, depending on whether people think it needs clarifying. {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:59, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Accept as rewritten.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:42, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' With something like this, I'm sure no one will mind if I just delete it, right? I'm just going to do that from here on in. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
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====Liekand's magic pockets====
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**Absolutely. This kind of "Fun Fact" doesn't really belong in STUFF. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.
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**What is this doing on here? Did somebody, like, not read the transcript before shoving this up? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' for what I hope are extremely obvious reasons. Strong Bad doesn't even SAY "no computers". Forget STUFF, this should have been deleted right off the bat - in fact, it should never have been added. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Whole-hearted second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second^243.''' Anyone who actually listens to the email, and not just look at it because it 'Looks cool..duhh...pictures....'. I also DISTINCTLY heard '''NEW''' not NO. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
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***'''Second.''' Person who heard 'no computers' is hard of hearing? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:15, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' This is a no no. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:21, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*I'm not registered, just a comment... This is the stupidest thing ever. Delete it. It's "new" computers!
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==== Christmas Lights ====
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*Added by --[[User:217.12.147.14|217.12.147.14]] 12:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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The fangly fish having Christmas lights is one of the few H*R references to Christmas.  It is more often referred to as Decemberween.
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*'''Decline.''' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:41, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept''' Wow I just realized that. You are correct sir!
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**'''Second''' Decemberween is the same as Christmas on H*R.com.  This is made clear because on one of the Decemberween toons, the file name contains 'xmas'. --[[User:fatpie|fatpie]]
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***That doesn't mean it's the same as Christmas (which it clearly isn't). It's just that the Decemberween cartoon is always brought out at Christmas. (Okay, except the last one. My point stands.) --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**Please sign with <nowiki>--~~~</nowiki>; it's really easy. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
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*'''Decline''' Decemberween isn't really Christmas; they just happen to be similar. Also, referring to "Christmas lights" doesn't seem like a direct reference to Christmas; blue and white "Christmas lights" aren't often called "Hannukah lights." --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
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*'''Rewrite.''' I suggest:
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<pre>Strong Bad's mention of "Christmas lights" is one of the few
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[[Decemberween]].</pre>
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:...since this is an interesting point, but Decemberween and Christmas aren't the same. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**I gotta '''Second''' this one. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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***Uh, what exactly are you seconding?  [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 19:39, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
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****Sorry, forgot an asterisk and was AFK for too long. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:42, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' Christmas really isn't usually referenced. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:16, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:22, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
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*'''Decline''' Referencing the style of decoration does not necessarily mean referencing the holiday. They have Christmas lights for almost any occasion now, even just white-bulb ones for illumination. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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**I've never heard "Christmas lights" used in any context outside actual Christmas decoration --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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***"The kids hung xmas lights to decorate their dorm room." :-) --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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****Yeah, but that still refers to lights which are used at Christmas. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Decline.''' We're getting over-sensitive to references now! --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:27, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:LynkStarr|LynkStarr]] 21:10, 6 Dec 2004 (GMT)
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**'''Second.''' Else someone needs to say that [http://www.chickfila.com Chick Fil-A] in [[Senor Mortgage]] and [http://www.hardees.com Hardee's] in [[colonization]] were the few references to commercial fast food. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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==== Subject Line, etc. ====
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== Recently closed items ==
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This is the first email in which we are shown the subject line. Also, this is the first email to have all the functions of a real email program (reply button, forward button, subject display), except for [[weird dream]].
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*'''Decline''' Probably just a new feature of the Lappy, so the fact that this is the first email on the Lappy would cover it. Plus, email programs like those used in UNIX (i.e. <tt>mail</tt>) have all of the reply-like functions, but not on screen. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
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=== [[rock opera]] ===
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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====Angled?====
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
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The frozen pond that Dangeresque falls into in the Easter Egg may be the same pond from lures & jigs from another angle.  
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**'''Second.''' (but something like this may not hurt on the Lappy page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:23, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Kilroy|''[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>'']] 22:05, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
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==== Lappy Startup Screen ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:45, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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The Lappy's boot-up process-- including the sound, the icon, and the logo text-- is very reminiscent of that of [http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interfaces/macos/macos80/macos80/startupshutdown Mac OS 8].　--[[User:codeman38|codeman38]] 21:51, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' This is already noted in the Fun Facts page of the toon. -- [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
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====Error?====
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*'''Rewrite.''' If it's already noted, this version isn't quite accurate. The Mac startup sound is coded into the hardware, and has been for quite a while. The sound and icon, however, are part of the Mac OS. If you have a Mac, try starting it up using Linux - the sound is the same, but the screen is different. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
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*'''Shorten and Rewrite.''' Same as above. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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==== Segmented Eyes ====
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On the newspaper clippin' of (Perhaps) The Deke's rave review, the word "of" is double-underlined, apparently by hand. Strong Bad appears to have noted that the word was not capitalized, and duly marked the error.
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"Segmented Eyes" is a line from the "Ren and Stimpy" Muddy Mudskipper song.
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*'''Decline.''' Segmented eyes = not at all unique to Ren & Stimpy. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rock opera]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:27, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:29, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' It's the scientific term. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:24, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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***Are you sure about that? I thought the scientific term was [http://en.wikipedia.org/Compound_eye "compound eyes"]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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****You can cheat on Wikipedia links: [[Wikipedia:Compound eye|compound eyes]]. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*****Ooh, very nice. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
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*'''Accept.''' I guess it got missed, that "Segmented eyes" is [http://www.google.com/search?as_epq=segmented+eye&as_sitesearch=en.wikipedia.org not a scientific term] at all, like "compound eyes" is, however non-scientists mistakenly use that term sometimes to describe insect eyes. <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Even mudskippers (except Muddy) [http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2000-09/968709436.Zo.r.html don't 'really' have] "segmented eyes", so that's a specific Ren & Stimpy-ism. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 11:39, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**I'd [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=+%22segmented+eyes%22+ try again] if I were you. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:27, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**The first 30 links of that Google search use the term incorrectly.  Most of them actually have a comma: "legs segmented, eyes narrow." It's correct english to say segmented eyes b/c of the smaller bits to the whole, but nary an entomologist would speak like that.  --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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***True that many have the term broken up, but many others don't. Anyway, it's all moot as there are exactly zero pieces of evidence that this is a Ren and Stimpy reference. Thus, there is no reason to keep this "fact". --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:45, 17 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**You say the term "segmented eyes" is commonly used. So how can you possibly postulate that this is a Ren and Stimpy ref? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Decline.''' If it's from Ren & Stimpy, please state why Muddy the Mudskipper is a fish with regular, misnamed eyes, but Strong Bad's animal thing has [[Wikipedia:Arthropod|arthropod]] compound eyes. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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==== These Speculations ====
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===[[guitar]]===
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"Check out all these speculations" may be a reference to the various forums on the internet that speculated about Strong Bad's new computer.
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====That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart====
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Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.
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*'''Neutral.''' I just wanted to preliminarily STUFF this one, might need a rewrite to make it acceptable, or might not be interesting.  Wanted to run it by others.  --[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]] 23:04, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:guitar]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline''' (although somewhat reluctantly). I think this is a bit of a stretch. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
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**'''Second''' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' This is perfectly reasonable. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' [[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]
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*'''Decline.''' This doesn't look likely to me. Strong Bad, for whatever reason, just seems to say speculations instead of "specifications". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:29, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:25, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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==== The Price is Right... Again ====
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=== [[kind of cool]] ===
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The way Strong Bad is describing Lappy could be a nod to the game show ''The Price Is Right''.
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====Homestar's Singing====
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*'''Decline''' Someone sure likes trying to find what MIGHT be Price is Right references - just look at the Blue Star Ointment fact from the Fairstival. This is too much of a stretch. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:25, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".
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*'''Rewrite.''' It's an ad style that I've seen in all sorts of game shows. So:
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<pre>The way Strong Bad describes
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:Thoughts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:37, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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**'''Second.''' Although who's this Price is Right-obsessed person? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:17, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Decline.''' Even with the rewrite, it's still a bit too obvious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:30, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Decline''' It's a reference to sbemail #66: the Show, which also spawned Main Page 19. --[[User:Tony|Anonymous]] 12:42, 1 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Rewrite.''' This is clearly a reference to [[The Show]]. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**The setting is a reference to it, but nothing like Strong Bad's commentary has ever been heard on The Show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*<s>'''Second''' for '''Rewrite.'''</s>  '''Decline.'''  Reference to "the show" is noted in transcript. Ignore the following: Definitely refers to "the show." TBC often has Strongbad randomly host toons.  See SB's commentary on [[The King of Town DVD]] and his announcing in [[monster truck]].  An example rewrite would be:
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**Strong Bad's gameshow-style descriptions of the Lappy and the easter-egg Anglerfish refer to [[The Show]].  --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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***I reiterate: not true. Although this type of description is frequent in gameshows and the setting is taken directly from The Show, the description itself is never seen on the show. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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****"The Show" mocks gameshows in general.  If TBC decide to add another aspect of gameshows in their mockery, it's probably not a big deal.  --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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==== Speculations, Again ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:kind of cool]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:22, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." this is a reference to Senor Cardgage's bizarre usage of common words.  
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*'''Decline''' Stretch...huge stretch --[[User:ninja pirate|ninja pirate]] 17:00, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
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===[[privileges]]===
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**'''Second''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:31, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept''' (somewhat reluctantly) Senor Cardage is supposed to resemble Strong Bad, but I will admit this fact does stretch it a bit. (And, capitalize the "This" in the second sentence.) --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 20:21, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:29, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Decline.''' This is not a reference to anything, it is merely one of Strong Bad's peculiarities. We don't need every word he says out of the ordinary deconstructed in these fun facts. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]] 17:48, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)
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*'''Decline.''' Just another Strong Bad malaprop. Cardgage isn't famous for bizarrely using common words - "combolations", "excardon" and "canceltation" are not common words. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' Fairly typical Strongbad lingo. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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==== Just me being picky ====
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====Fretmagic Kids!====
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The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)
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"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.
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*'''Accept.''' --[[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:privileges]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:19, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Neutral''' Shouldn't this be on the Lappy 486 page? It seems unlikely that this will be confined to just "animal". --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
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*'''Accept.''' There's something wrong with this. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Accept but Move.''' It's definitely odd, but put this on [[Lappy 486]] unless things change next email. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
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==== Weird laptop ====
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===[[flashback]]===
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After some measuring, I figured that the Lappy 486 has the aspect ratio of 1.67:1. A normal display would have the aspect ratio of 1.3:1 and a widescreen display has the aspect ratio of 1.85:1. So the Lappy must have a resolution of around 400x240. More or less. Was there such a display back then? (Yeah, I know this is suppose to be on the Lappy page, but I want to confirm this information and I didn't want to put it there until I made sure.)
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*'''Weak decline.''' This isn't really very significant. But if the majority vote for it to be put on [[Lappy 486]], I'll concede. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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====Emails====
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*'''Accept and Move.''' This isn't exclusive to animal. Maybe put it on the lappy page as you said? - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
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How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?
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*'''Rephrase and move''' This goes on the Lappy page, and needs to be severely edited. (Conversational style.) [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:41, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''second'''[[User:madkayaker|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:madkayaker|madkayaker]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:42, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)
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**'''Second.''' These weird calculation thingies are all over the wiki. If people don't want this one, there's a lot of cleaning to do. Besides, I think the comp nerds enjoy it. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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==== Off-screen typing ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:flashback]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:20, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Normally, Strong Bad doesn't type anything into the computer unless the toon is focused on him, and in the cases he does you can hear him typing. In this cartoon, you can see at the end that Strong Bad typed in all his Sterrence comments, but the toon was focused on Sterrence and no typing sounds were heard.
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*'''Neutral''' Figured I'd add it here first for approval, because I could be wrong, but I believe this is the first time it's happened. Might need a rewrite too. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:50, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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===[[pom pom]]===
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*'''Accept''' Hey, I didn't catch this! Pretty interesting. [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
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====hidden frame====
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*'''Rewrite.''' How's-about...
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:--[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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=== [[virus]] ===
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously declined. It was closed early because, as a rule, Flash artifacts are not fun facts. If you wish to contest this, see [[Talk:pom pom]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== Bubs' Broken JPEG ====
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===[[part-time job]]===
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Surprised no one's written in with this yet: Bub's 'broken JPEG' face has a 'TH' on it, just like the [[Thnikkaman]] sign taped on his shirt in [[monument]].  It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email.
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====The Answering Room====
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Judging from what's in it, the room that Strong Bad was in was probably a kitchen.
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*<strike>'''Modify, accept.''' I don't see anything wrong with this one, as long as we remove "Surprised no one's written in with this yet" and "It's noted in the Thnikkaman article, but not this email." --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</strike>
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously declined. It was closed early because, as a rule, things noted in the transcript are not fun facts. If you wish to contest this, see [[Talk:part-time job]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:43, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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:*'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:05, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' [[virus#References|Already mentioned.]] [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 05:56, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**Tch, you're right. Okay, change my vote to a '''decline'''. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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==== Pre-computer-destruction sound ====
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===[[boring (really)]]===
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The sound clip that plays when the "It's now safe to turn your computer off" message appears (just before the [[Compy 386]] is destroyed) is the same sound that plays just before [[Strong Bad]]'s [[Tandy 400]] explodes in [[gimmicks]]. Perhaps we'll hear it again when it's time for [[Lappy 486]] to bite the dust?
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====Definitely not the hat, though====
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One of Strong Bad's three letter words, "fez", is a refference to the charecter Fez from That '70s Show.
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*'''Accept.''' Quite interesting. --[[User:TuqueeLukee|Tuquee]] 22:20, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:boring (really)]] -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:04, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Rewrite.''' Take out "Perhaps we'll hear it again when it's time for [[Lappy 486]] to bite the dust?" and it'll be good. --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:34, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 21:35, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''After first, before third.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
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==== Strong Sad's face ====
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===[[old comics]]===
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[[Strong Sad]]'s face is a reference to current mood icons that are used in blogs such as [http://www.livejournal.com livejournal.com]. He uses these kinds of icons on his [[Strong Sad's Lament]] page.
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====Domenico da Comma! Live at Woodstock!!====
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"Discoveration of Comma" may be a reference to the urban legend of Domenico da Comma, the supposed inventor of the comma. The fact that the Poopsmith speaks only in commas may also be a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Peanuts|''Peanuts'']] cartoon strip, in which [[Wikipedia:Woodstock_(Peanuts)|Woodstock]] could only speak in chicken scratch.
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*'''Decline.''' Isn't this already noted in the transcript? - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 09:53, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:old comics]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:02, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
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*'''Decline.''' I should know this was noted in the transcript because I was the one who wrote it up and put it in there. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:32, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' Not much of a reference, more like an occurance. Agree that this is noted in the transcript. [[HRWiki:Once_And_Only_Once|Once and Only Once]] issue. Reason: Duplicate information. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]]
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**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' OAOO. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:16, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice this. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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**On the other hand, perhaps you should have. ;) The general rule is if it's in the transcript, it shouldn't be noted again unless there's additional information to note. In this case, there isn't. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 01:12, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' Some people may not even know what Strong Sad's journal is. [[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Hobophobic|talk</sup>]]
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*'''Decline.''' Blatently obvious. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
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**'''Second.''' Not to be offensive, but any visitor with a brain and at least SOME Homestarrunner.com knowledge would know. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
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*'''Rewrite.''' I like this idea, but I'm uncomfortable with the livejournal reference. Even though it's mostly free, there are paid parts, and this isn't an ad site. What about:
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<pre>[[Strong Sad]]'s face is made of
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[[Strong Sad's Lament]].</pre>
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Most H*R visitors, I think, are familiar with the idea of blogs and emoticons. If not, they can click to read about them on Wikipedia. This seems like a good compromise. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
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*'''Decline.''' The transcript says it already.  Plus any comments about [[Strong Sad's Lament]] should be restricted to that page. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 21:55, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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==== One flash file ====
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=== [[secret recipes]] ===
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The navigation and the email are combined into one flash file (so that Homestar can grab the words).
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*'''Modify and keep.''' This is a depart from the normal for The Brothers Chaps but could use a re-wording.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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====The king eats deodorant...but what does he reference?====
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*'''Keep.''' I don't really know if it needs modifying, but it definitely should be kept, as TBC have never done it before. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
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*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Keep''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' because Homestar grabbing the words makes it pretty clear to anybody whom this would have any meaning that they are a single Flash file. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline'''. Dito. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
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*'''Modify and accept.''' I think it should be changed to note that this is the ''only'' email in which the menu is part of the same flash file. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' It's an interesting fun fact. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:martinman|Hoekenheef]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 23:35, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:05, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:52, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' If another e-mail combines the flash files then the above rewrite would become invalid. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
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**Well, obviously, as and when that happens, the rewrite will be, um, rewritten. But as of now, there's no problem with it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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==== Quadratic formula ====
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The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to "Secret" brand deodorant ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman." It's also a reference to Imperial Margarine adverts from the 1970's, wherein the slogan was "Imperial Margarine...with flavour fit for a King!".
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[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.
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*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:secret recipes]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:56, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
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**'''Second''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:54, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**Not everyone watching Homestar has been through middle school. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
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*'''Delete'''.  It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
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*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Decline.''' It's totally not relevant to the e-mail.
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**Please, please sign! Use <tt><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></tt> - it shows up like: --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' HRWiki is a repository of knowledge on Homestarrunner.com. So, even though this is a little obvious to some, it's not so obvious to others. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:39, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Mocify and Accept.''' Good to have the info here, but the quadratic formula is used to find the zeros of quadratic equations, not the solutions. <tt><nowiki>--Ben 12:54, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)</nowiki></tt>
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*'''Modify''' There are zillions of younger kids who watch SB, and many of them can use a computer to find this wiki but won't learn about the equation until late middle school.  That said, the wording of this entry is pretty boring. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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==== Pi ====
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===[[cheatday]]===
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The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.
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====Get outta here kid?====
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Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"
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*'''Modify and keep'''.  While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:cheatday]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:07, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete''' Way too obvious.  --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline'''.  A little too obvious.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
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*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Accept.''' I am top of my class at year 8,and I didn't notice that. This is what fun facts are for. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Accept.''' Not everyone would notice this. Unless a fun fact is blindingly obvious, I think we should keep it. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' Those of us who are picky about this look very closely at the emails. Not everybody looks that closely at a "silly cartoon."  --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:42, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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*'''Modify and Accept.''' I agree with what Tom said.  Perhaps the 2nd sentence could be omitted entirely, even. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:00, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Aawy|Aawy]] 12:58, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
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==== Oh, a wise guy, eh? ====
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===[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]===
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Strong Bad saying "Oh, a wise guy, eh?" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Three Stooges|Three Stooges]], where [[Wikipedia:Curly Howard|Curly]] uses the very same phrase often.
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*'''Delete.''' I'm not convinced that no one besides Curly has used this phrase.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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====3 Coins Halloween Punjob====
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**'''Second.''' I'm sure tons of other people besides Curly and Strong Bad have used this phrase. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
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The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.
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**'''Second.''' This phrase has indeed been used by many other people/characters besides Curly and Strong Bad, and there's no evidence it was a reference to any in particular. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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*'''Delete.''' This one seems kind of vague, though it definitely is a phrase associated with The Three Stooges. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Keep''. I think it's good, it's interesting and not something everybody knows. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete.''' No evidence it's a reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete'''. I don't think it's a reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' because the phrase has also been used in many other places other than The Three Stooges and H*R. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Keep'''. Classic Three Stooges line. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
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**'''Second.''' Classic Stooges indeed. Kind of obvious for a long time fan like myself, but some people don't watch the classics.  --[[User:Mogul|Mogul]] 11:12, 28 Nov 2004 (EST)
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**'''Second''' Three Stooges was the first thing I thought of upon hearing this.  Even though it has been used other places, those places are almost definately referencing the 3 Stooges themselves.  --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:02, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept'''.  I didn't know this before.  I think it's interesting.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 15:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' I don't think it is interesting enough. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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**'''Second.''' Perhaps if it were a bit more 'fun.' --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:05, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' This is not a fact.  This is speculation. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:11, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Accept'''.  TBC have made other [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=stooges&fulltext=Search Three Stooges references]. [[User:Mister Mister|Mister Mister]] 22:21, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
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==== 3D Bubs legs ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:3 Times Halloween Funjob]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:10, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.
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*'''Delete'''.  Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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===[[Senorial Day]]===
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*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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====Old Gron Sad voice?====
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*'''Modify but keep'''.  I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part.  It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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Strong Sad seems to be using an older style of his voice in his easter egg. When he says "Somebody hit me on the slant," his voice is normal again.
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*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
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**'''Second''' [[User:Overused&Underappreciated|O&U]]
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*'''Decline'''.  I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
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*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 16:04, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Accept.''' "[[stunt double]]" is the only prior use of 3-D on the site. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:20, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' --Superdotman
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==== Breaking the fourth wall ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:16, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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This is one of only a few emails where the characters seem to "break the fourth wall" by recognizing their existence as cartoon characters on a computer screen rather than in a fictional world of their own. Other emails in which they do this are "[[flashback]]" (they extend the size of the display area and Homestar is "behind the black"), "[[for kids]]" where Strong Bad alludes to the idea of children at home watching the emails, "[[the process]]" (the entire email implies that Strong Bad is aware that he is a cartoon being watched by people at home), "[[huttah!]]", where The Cheat actually watches the e-mail on his own computer, and "[[extra plug]]" (the scene at the end with the cast making a fake e-mail give the impression that Strong Bad knows someone's watching, and that they want to see the e-mail finished).
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*'''Trim and redirect'''.  This sounds very well put together, but it's a bit much for a fun fact.  It sounds like it could use a page of its own which could then be linked to from a much smaller fun fact.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]]  --  [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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====Hoppity Freddie of Values?====
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*'''Modify, keep''' I'm not entirely sure it should be redirected to a seperate page, but it definitely needs to be cut down, as it's a whole paragraph. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue
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*'''Delete'''. It's not literally true as stated (I've seen it said that, to the H*R crew, the SB e-mails are more of a live-action deal than cartoons, and I agree.) And it's useless. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Rewrite'''.  This needs to be trimmed.  It's a little too much information.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete'''. There's too many 4th wall breakdowns for any to be worth noting. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
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*'''Modify, keep''' This is definitely worth noting, but needs to be severely trimmed or maybe noted elsewhere. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' Of course the characters are aware that they have an audience: the entire concept of the SBEmails hinges on this. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' Good point DG. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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**'''Second.''' If they broke the fourth wall in the first sbemail, this instance isn't very special. - [[User:tender branson|tender branson]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
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*'''Delete''' I've made a [[Fourth Wall Breaks]] page for this sort of thing. Enough people had said that it should be done that I decided to do it. --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:26, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The dicussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:48, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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====Lurking around====
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*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
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Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to [[garage sale]], where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.
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**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Keep'''.  Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
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*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
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*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Move.''' It's not something I have time or expertise to do right now, but what about creating pages on the menus themselves? This has more to do with the menu than the email. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:45, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Rewrite''' This one is good, just add on to the end that there was a new menu created for the next week, and that after [[animal]] was out for a while, the lappy 486 menu was issued. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:30, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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==== Compy 386?? (page title) ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:12, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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The page title is "Compy 386??" to reflect the fate of the Compy.
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*'''Keep'''. I think it's worthy enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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====Senor Shrub====
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*'''Keep'''. This one's okay. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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The shrub under the tent is the same as the shrub that Senor Cardgage/Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad suspiciously comes out from behind in [[kind of cool]].
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*'''Accept'''.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Keep'''. Worth mentioning. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' because anybody reading the transcript or watching the toon can figure out why the page title is what it is. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Keep'''.  Any change in the standard browser window should be noted and kept 08:06 22 Nov 2004 (EST)
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**The point is it's not any ''more'' notable than the other page titles. The page title is noted anyway; we don't have to make an additional fun fact about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Keep'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
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*'''Decline'''.  It's obvious and not exactly fun.  [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
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*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice the page title was different until I saw this fun fact. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Decline.''' Different headers are noted on the [[Strong Bad Email]] page. If we want to explain this one, the explanation should go there. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Decline.''' ''Extremely'' obvious. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:28, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''DELETED.'''-- [[User:Bonkava!|OK, I'm Kevin]] ''{trimmed - that was just awkward'' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]''}''
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==== Homsar's walking sound ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- 14:37, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".
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*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Mad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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====Se&ntilde;or Senior, Sr.====
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*'''Keep but Modify'''.  I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Se&ntilde;or" for "Senor.")
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:34, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
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*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Delete.''' Plenty of sounds have been used for plenty of things. Not interesting. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
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*'''Modify, accept''' (as Jay and company mentioned). I find it interesting that Homsar's sound is used for a different character. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:47, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' Not the first time! Homsar uses that sound ALL the time, and Mr. Shmallow uses it. Why shouldn't SrtMga don?-- [[Bonkava!|
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I'm tired of brackets!]]
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==== Edgar's anachronism ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- 14:35, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.
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*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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====Oh, what a feeling====
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**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a [[Wikipedia:Toyota|Toyota]] sales event called "Toyotathon".
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*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice.  A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
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*'''Decline'''.  Incorrect.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete'''. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
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*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 12:00, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:37, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*Not a vote, but a related comment: Might it not be that TBC ''intentionally'' selected a time when no viruses really existed? What we see happening might not be a virus, but a (heavy) bug in that program. --[[User:83.88.139.108|83.88.139.108]] 15:18, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.'''Interesting. -cubeboy
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==== Email number ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Senorial Day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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The fact that a disaster happened on email 118 is probably a reference to the disaster of the British phone enquiry system that got changed to hundreds of different numbers all beginning with 118.
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*'''Decline.''' Highly dubious. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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===[[time capsule]]===
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**'''Second.''' I think it's very unlikely that the Brothers Chaps would even know that fact, let alone put it in. --[[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]]
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====Eyes====
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**'''Second.''' Unless one of them says so, that seems way too obscure for them to have been shooting for. -- [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 11:24, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
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Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.
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**'''Second.''' Not faintly plausible. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 17:39, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' What?! --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:39, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Decline.''' This just plain befuddles me. TBC usually don't go for references quite that obscure. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' This is more likely a coincidence, if anything. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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**'''Second.''' I find it hard to believe that TBC, being American, would refer to a relatively minor British event. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:49, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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=== [[little animal]] ===
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:time capsule]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:51, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== sdrawkcab ====
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====Isle of Pom?====
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The Olde Tyme version people run backwards in the Easter Egg.  
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The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.
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*'''Delete'''. I've looked at it. They are most definitely NOT running backwards with respect to The Sneak. I also don't think they're running backwards with respect to the buildings in the background - it almost seems that the buildings in the background are just changing randomly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:12, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:time capsule]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:16, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Delete'''. The person who added this was probably refering to the way The Strong Bad's arms and legs move, but even so, the movement is too stiff to really tell, and is probably just an optical illusion. (run-on much?) --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 00:25, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Delete'''. Oh, come on. Did this person just think they were running backwards because of the way Strong Man was boucing? [[User:Astral Maelstorm|Acorn]] 02:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Keep'''. They look like they're running backwards to me. Plus, that used to be an old optical illusion. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
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*'''Delete'''. I've personally NEVER thought they were running backwards, even for a second. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:01, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*Not a vote, but a comment (but personally I'd vote '''decline'''): we shouldn't use the process for old pages with few fun facts. See [[HRWiki talk:Select The Usable Fun Facts]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 10:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**Sorry, but it kept getting deleted and added and deleted and added. I guess I didn't read the introduction closely enough and assumed this was for ALL controversial fun facts.  --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:18, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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***It's fine, I guess we could use it for that, too, but that's not its main purpose. Though I don't wanna see the "Yeah, no" question being added here... :P - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 19:20, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Decline.''' It's just a trick of the eye. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:15, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Decline.''' I believe The buildings in the background are changing randomly. So sometimes they seem to be running backwards and sometimes forwards. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===
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===[[long pants]]===
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====No "la dee la dee la"?====
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Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Old New Intro|Intro]].
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==== Blue Las-Alert and the Superfriends ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was narrowly accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:44, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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The "Blue Las-Alert" may be a reference to the "Trouble Alert" on The Superfriends, which was sometimes compressed into one phrase ("Trouble-Alert" or "Troublealert").
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*'''Decline.''' Just a coincidence, maybe less.--[[User:Tiggera|Tiggera]] 20:20, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
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====Edga Jr. removes text?====
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*No vote - If Superfriends (which I have never seen) combines them like how Blue Las-Alert was combined, why is it "Troublealert" instead of "Troubalert"? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 00:51, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
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Strong Bad opens up [[Edgar#Edga Jr.|Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.
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*'''Accept.''' Maybe this is true. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:47, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' Seems pretty similar. Votes from more Superfriends viewers would be helpful. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted with slight modifications. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:long pants]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:50, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.
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*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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===[[monster truck]]===
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*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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====Get Back Loretta!====
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*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
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The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."
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*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
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*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
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*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' Pretty clear. Rewording would be a plus. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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==== Fan-freaking-tastic (DECLINED) ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:monster truck]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].
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'''VERDICT:''' Declined after unanimous "declines" after about a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
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=== [[The Luau]] ===
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==== Reference? ====
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==== No Homestar, Pom Pom, etc. ====
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In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".  
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This one sorta goes without saying, but this is the only 'toon in the full-length section that does not feature some form of Homestar or (believe it or not) Pom-Pom, and the only one besides [[The King of Town DVD]] that does not feature any of the three Brothers Strong or Marzipan.
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*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:The Luau]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Modify, Keep''' It does bear noting, but conversational style = no. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:50, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Decline''' So what? &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt></small>''
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*'''Modify and Keep''' I think they should delete the Brother's Strong bit. --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
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**'''Second.''' The absence of the principal characters (including a normal The Cheat) is the important part.  --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Decline.''' That's not very special. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Decline.''' This isn't a noteworthy fact.
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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==== Speaker sound (DECLINED) ====
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=== [[anything]] ===
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The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].
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'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" after nearly a week of voting. Moved to [[Talk:Shopping for Danger]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:13, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
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====The <s>404</s> 411 on half and half====
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=== [[Halloween Fairstival]] ===
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"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.
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==== Speaking ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:anything]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:19, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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This toon has reference to Pom Pom not speaking, even though everyone acts as though he is speaking normally all the time.
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*'''Accept''' Seems noteworthy to me. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
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=== [[do over]] ===
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*'''Modify.''' That is pretty whack.  Should say that it's the FIRST time someone has referred to Pom-Pom that way. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Accept.''' Hadn't noticed that, but it's quite interesting. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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==== Page title ====
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====Tandy 400 Goofs====
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When Strong Bad does over the [[sisters]] and [[little animal]] emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.
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The page title is a reference to [[Malloween Commercial]].
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was unanimously accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:18, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' How is this a reference?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
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====Totally not gettin' old?====
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*'''Accept:''' This probably is a reference to Marshie saying "Boogidy boogidy! I'll scare your dad!" in Malloween Commercial. I don't see why it should be removed. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
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"Anydangway" is a reference to [[car]], in which Strong Bad said the same thing.
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*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be a reference to the old song "The Streak" which had that as part of its chorus. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Revise'''. It needs to clearly state that it is ''quoting'' Malloween Commercial.  Otherwise, I accept.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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:*'''Second''' - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 10:55, 27 Nov 2004 (MST)
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:*'''Second.''' -[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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:*'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:56, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Modify and Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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==== Shin guards (DECLINED) ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:18, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.
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'''VERDICT:''' declined after unanimous "declines" over a week or so. Moved to [[Talk:Halloween Fairstival]]. -- [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 04:05, 28 Nov 2004 (MST)
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====George W. Stnank====
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Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.
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==== Dripping towel noise ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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The dripping towel noise is the same as the dripping faucet noise from [[Main Page 14]].
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*'''Accept:''' These sort of things are interesting, I guess...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
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====Stnank or Not?====
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*'''Decline.''' Not nearly interesting enough. Dripping water always sounds like dripping water. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.'''  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 16:57, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:58, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used a lot anyway. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
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==== Locka-room ====
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Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.
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The "locka-room" may be a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad]], wherein phrases such as "Unda-Wears" appear.
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*'''Decline:''' This may also be a reference to the way Coach Z's speaks, or any number of things.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
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'''VERDICT:''' After more than three weeks of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline:''' It is similar to TGS in a way, but I doubt it's a reference to TGS in particular(or a reference at all). --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
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*'''Decline.''' Doesn't seem like much of a reference to me. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' I wouldn't call it a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Accept.''' It could also be referring to Strong Bad calling Homestar "undabite" in [[big white face]] and Blue Las-Alert. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|My name is too long]]
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*'''Decline.''' This is a manner of speech often used by TBC, and not a reference. --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:59, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Decline.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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*'''Accept.''' - [cubeboy]
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==== Blue Star Ointment ====
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====A Type of Bad Grammar====
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Blue Star Ointment is a product used for ringworm and jock itch. It's frequently seen on the US version game show [[Wikipedia:The Price is Right|The Price is Right]].
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This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.
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*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' Where does TPIR come in to this?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:27, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
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*'''Modify, Accept.''' Remove the bit about The Price is Right, and you have something worthwhile. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' I had no idea what the reference was until I caught this note on the wiki.  TPIR is unneccessary, however. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:25, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Vannav|Vannav]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:00, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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==== Old man remedies ====
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====Grammatically Incorrect====
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"Grody old man remedies" may also refer to Peasant's Quest, in which the innkeeper has a closet full of "old man rub". Also, there is an "old lady rub" in [[Shopping for Danger]].
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*'''Decline:''' This is a stretch.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
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Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes.  "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").
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**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
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*'''Decline.''' It could be, yet it's kind of shaky. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' Three times is becoming a running gag? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:42, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' A rather amusing gag.  --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Decline.''' - Can't it just be funny without being a reference? -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:01, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Decline.''' However, there is a worthwhile comparison between old man rub and old lady rub, which could be noted on [[Shopping for Danger]]. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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==== Breath-holding skill ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:do over]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:20, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Homestar's breath-holding skill was first seen on the [http://homestarrunner.com/yearbook.html yearbook] characters page.
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*'''Decline:''' ehh...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
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===[[cheat talk]]===
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*'''Decline:''' I don't think that this is entirely relevant. Sure, Homestar did hold his breath on the Yearbook Characters Page, but that isn't really connected to him holding his breath in Fair-stival.
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:02, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Decline.''' This is a huge stretch, let's face it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' It is too trivial. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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==== Philly Cheat Steak ====
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===To "T" or not to "T"===
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"Philly Cheat-steak" is a reference to the popular sandwich "Philly Cheese Steak".
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*'''Decline:''' Most people could figure this pun out for themselves.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
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At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
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*'''Accept:''' I think that some people wouldn't know, though. It's not entirely self-evident.
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*'''Accept.''' I think it's good enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline''' That's uber-obvious. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept'''.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' I've never heard of a Philly Cheese Steak. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Modify, accept''' I think it's fine if it's accompanied by a wikipedia reference. I think it's only "uber-obvious" to us fast food eating americans :) [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]]
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**'''Second.''' I'm a Brit, so :) -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:46, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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*'''Accept.''' I didn't know this! -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
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*'''Accept:''' I got it, but you'd be surprised how many people (especially international visitors) have never heard of these.  Still a useful fact. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:32, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' Good fact. Most British people have no idea. - [[User:J to the sag|J to the sag]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:03, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Decline.''' Waaaaay too obvious. -[cubeboy]
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==== KoT and SBemail ====
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'''VERDICT:''' After a month of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:cheat talk]]. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:08, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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When Strong Bad talks to the King of Town he does it in the style of a Strong Bad Email.
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*'''Decline:''' Again almost anyone could figure this out-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
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===[[Stinkomanual]]===
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**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
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*'''Decline.''' You'd have to be completely new to H*R to not get this. And if you're reading the Wiki, chances are you're not new to this. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second'''.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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***'''Second.''' -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
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**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:41, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept''' I think it's an interesting idea. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' That's the joke. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Decline.''' I entered this fact,and i think you have a point. It is completely obvious.I think it should be deleted. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
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*'''Move.''' This should be inserted into the transcript. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:05, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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**'''Second.''' I think everybody can agree on that. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
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**'''Second.''' I do.  --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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***'''Second.'''Meh I agree too --[[User:cubeboy|cubeboy]
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*'''Changed.''' Fact removed,added in script.Can someone delete this part of STUFF?. --[[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
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==== Humminama What? ====
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====Saargtsson Ltd.====
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When Bubs says "Humminama-What?",that is a reference to Under Construction, where Stinkoman says something similar.
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*'''Decline:''' Similar, but not noteworthy-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
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The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. [http://www.bosch.com/content/language2/html/index.htm Robert Bosch GmbH] is an actual German company. ''(revised)''
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**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:06, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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*'''Accept.''' Exactly correct however I think Bubs has said that before.. - [[User:J to the Sag|J to the Sag]]
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==== Creeping Death ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted with modifications. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Stinkomanual]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:03, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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The sign at the auction where we see the Poopsmith and Pom Pom says "CREEPING silent DEATH auction" which could be reference to Metallica's "Creeping Death", which was a reference to one of the Plagues in The Bible.
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*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' I can buy that this is a ref. to Metallica because TBC have other Metallica refs (see [[Carol]]).  Also Creeping Death (caps) and silent auction (lower case) make sence together.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
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===[[labor day]]===
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**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
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**'''Second''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be just a reference to general Halloween spookiness. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' If it were outside the bounds of Halloween, it'd be more likely a Metallica reference. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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*'''Decline''' - The phrase "creeping death" is neither unique to Metallica nor popularized by them. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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==== WEAR FLIP FLOPS. ====
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====Strong Bad referencing Lucky?====
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In the haunted locka-room, there is a sign in the top-left corner that says, "WEAR FLIP FLOPS." This may be a reference to the in-joke "[[Wear a Bikini!|WEAR A BIKINI!]]" Or it may just be because it's good policy to wear flip flops in public showers.
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*'''Decline:''' This is just good policy, not a ref. to wearing another article of clothing.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
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In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.  
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Decline.''' I've seen these signs many times in the real world. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:07, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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==== All white stuff on his face ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:labor day]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Without the green hair and red makeup, Strong Bad looks like the picture of Strong Bad with all white stuff on his face in the museum section of H*R website.
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===[[Bug In Mouth Disease]]===
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*'''Decline:''' Not relevant. -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
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====Music by TMBG?====
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**'''Second'''.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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The opening theme is somewhat like [[They Might Be Giants]]', [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Till_My_Head_Falls_Off "Till My Head Falls Off"]. The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.
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*'''Decline.''' What? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Decline.''' Irrelevant. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:15, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' Makes no sense. Also irrelevant. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:08, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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==== Strong Mad's laugh ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug in Mouth Disease]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:39, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Strong Mad's laugh is different in this toon than from the last time we heard it in [[helium]]. The latter toon had Strong Mad with a deep laugh, while this one features him with a raspy laugh much closer to his speaking voice.
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*'''Decline:''' So, they changed his laugh. -[[User:Your_Fuzzy_God|Fuzzy]]
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====555-What?====
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**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
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*'''Decline.''' Yep, Strong Mad's voice has changed. Are we going to start noting every single time Matt starts altering character voices? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline'''.  --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.''' OK. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
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*'''Decline.''' It's likely that Matt can't match everything he said earlier without it being somewhat altered. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Abstain/Explanation:''' Since I'm the one who wrote that, it's not fair for me to vote, but I want to at least explain why I thought it to be relevant.  TBC like to point out those sort of things in interviews and on the DVD - new animation approaches, redesigned character, new approaches to the vocal stylings, etc.  These sort of facts show how their skills and thought process involving the site has evolved. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 23:29, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' Good point. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:09, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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==== "I blew it, man... I lose my touch." ====
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The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)
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(After the bit about Homsar as Kumar from "Bottle Rocket")
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In addition, his line ("I blew it, man... I lose my touch") is one of Kumar's lines from the film.
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'''VERDICT:''' This item, with modifications, was accepted as an explanation. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Bug in Mouth Disease]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:39, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.''' I didn't know that. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:37, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
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===[[comic]]===
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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====CORRECTIONED====
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*'''Modify and Keep.''' I get it, but only after intensive decoding. This needs to be more readable. Interesting, though. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:09, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
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the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for [[comic]]
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 23:10, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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'''VERDICT.''' Part of the above info was accepted in a modified form. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:comic]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===
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===[[garage sale]]===
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==== Large Blank Space ====
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====Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?====
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If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.
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'''VERDICT: '''Declined after over a week of unanimous "Decline" votes. Moved to [[Talk:Broken Compy Menu]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:20, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.  
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=== [[Theme Song Video]] ===
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:garage sale]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:25, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== Drink Me? ====
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===[[theme park]]===
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in the video homestar and pom pom are drinking cold ones strong bads favorite drink of time
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*'''Decline.''' Obvious. --[[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]]
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====Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?====
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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'''(A)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show [http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/bio/ryans.shtml Survivor: Pearl Islands] (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to [[techno]].
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**'''Second.''' - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
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*'''Decline.''' Why is this one even being voted on? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' This is a good example of a bad fun fact. --[[User:Lunar Jesters|The Somewhat Awesome Jesty]] 17:17, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
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*'''Decline.''' Not only is it obvious, it has no punctuation, and 'favorite drink of time'? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 14:38, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second''' Mmmm, fresh time.  Bad fact. - [[User:Rebochan|Rebochan]] 16:48, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Move.''' This should be sent as an email to Strong Bad so he can critique it. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 22:40, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
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***'''Second.''' -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
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=== [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]] ===
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'''(B)'''The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to [[Ryan Sterritt]], a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.
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==== The Subliminal Advertisement (DECLINED) ====
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'''VERDICT:''' Both of these were accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:theme park]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:18, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.
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===[[couch patch]]===
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'''VERDICT:''' Declined after over a week of unanimous 'decline' votes. Moved to [[Talk:In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:14, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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====Computer miscommunications====
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At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)
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=== [[Main Page 22]] ===
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was narrowly declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:couch patch]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:07, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== The Old Man Fishin' ====
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===[[Blue Laser Commander]]===
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====A legendary voice, you screech?====
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The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.
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When you see the picture of the Old Man fishin', he is from [[Peasant's Quest]]
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'''CLOSED.''' This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant [[Talk:Blue_Laser_Commander#A_legendary_voice.2C_you_screech.3F|talk page]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
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*'''Decline.''' Already mentioned in the button description. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
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===[[Under Construction]]===
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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====Get That Character A Kleenex!====
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**'''Second.''' Why are we getting so many ones like this? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
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1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the [[Wikipedia:Nosebleed#Nosebleeds in fiction|anime cliche]] that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji". The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Mortal_Kombat#Ports|the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo]], where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".
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**'''Second.''' ??? O_0--[[User:Bonkava!|Not Kevin (OK, I lied)]]
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=== [[anything]] ===
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Under Construction]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== Dan VS. Jerome ====
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===[[rampage]]===
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The e-mail is from Dan, although Homestar refers to him as Jerome.
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====rampage easter egg====
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At the end of the SBEmail [[rampage]], in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail [[morning routine]].
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*<s>'''Delete.''' Already mentioned in the transcript. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]</s>
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:rampage]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]] -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.'''  Maybe this is because he was called "Strong Bad."  -- [[User:edsmilde|ED!smilde]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004
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*'''Very Much Accept''' It is NOT in the transcript. All that is in the transcript is a literal transcription of what Homestar says. If you're not paying attention and forgot who sent the e-mail - which I did my first time through the e-mail - it's very easy to miss. This being in the transcript would go something like: '''Homestar''': Well, Jerome ''{even though the e-mail's writer was Dan}''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:50, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**The fun facts section is not there to explain obvious jokes. The transcript notes that Homestar calls him Jerome, and also contains the email text which is signed "Dan". Therefore, it's noted in the transcript. We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." Not worthwhile. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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***What "obvious"? Like I said, it was easy to miss. I missed it myself until I'd seen the e-mail a few times; what's to say other people didn't? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 09:26, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
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***I caught this the first time, but there is NO comparison to previous e-mails.  In "date," the joke is obvious because Boston is the name of a big city. And in Monster Truck, it's obvious because "Dan and Linda" is said almost immediately after "Stan and Loretta," and Strong Bad uses clear enunciation each time. In this case, Homestar quickly reads Dan's name, and then goes on an extended aside with the FL joke before saying "Jerome."  Hence not obvious to all. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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****No comparison?  How about [[old comics]], where he says Jack instead of Zack? In any case, it's not that long after Homestar reads the name that he says Jerome. It's a joke, and jokes don't belong in fun facts (otherwise the page would become very, very long). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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****Old comics is a better comparison, but SB speaks slowly & clearly, making it more obvious. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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**'''Second.''' I didn't notice that the first time I saw it. --[[User:Chiphead|Chiphead]]
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*My bad, it wasn't in the transcript after all. I'm an idiot. I change my vote to '''Accept''' and will probably move the fun fact back to the page unless there's a better "Decline" argument. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 09:04, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Move to Transcript''' ala Jay's example above.  People will probably catch this after watching it a few times.  Things that need clarification but aren't sly allusions should go in the transcript.  This is definitely the most subtle name-switch in all the SB emails, hence it's not necessary to note every time it's happened elsewhere. --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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==== Dan Vs. Jerome 2 ====
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===[[Main Page 6]]===
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====Outta Sync?====
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Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.
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Homestar's referring to Dan as Jerome is a reference to Stong Bad's calling emailers by names other than their own. Ex: to quote Upsilon a few lines ago, {We might as well put on [[monster truck]], "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on [[date]], "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." } (needs a major rewrite). --Superdotman
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'''CLOSED.''' The consensus of this discussion has been used to revise the article. The discussion itself has been moved to [[Talk:Main Page 6]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== Soda Physics ====
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===[[best thing]]===
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The idea of the soda never running out is a likely reference to old cartoons, in which physics don't apply.
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==== Alternative vs. Hair Metal ====
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Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success.
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''(rewrite)''
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*'''Delete.''' Mostly speculation, not necessarily a reference to anything. -- [[User:Kamek|Kamek]]
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact was accepted after being rewritten. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:best thing]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:00, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
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**'''Second''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 14:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
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=== [[personal favorites]] ===
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===[[origins]]===
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====Cut the Crusts====
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In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."
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==== The Beginning and the End ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:origins]]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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The two real e-mails both pertain to the fall of the [[Tandy 400]] and the introduction of the [[Compy 386]]. It's possible that they are two of Strong Bad's favourites due to how much Strong Bad disliked the Tandy 400 in comparison to the Compy 386, as is evidenced by his indifference while knocking the Tandy off the desk in [[invisibility]] and his interminable crying at the end of [[virus]].
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===[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]===
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====Who's that Drummond? Redux==== 
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"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show ''[[IMDB:tt0077003|Diff'rent Strokes]]''.
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*'''Rewrite.''' --[[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]]
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'''VERDICT:''' The second time around, this item was unanimously accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:48, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Accept.''' That ''is'' interesting. I'm unsure as to whether it's intentional, but it's definitely worth noting. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
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**'''Second, but Rewrite.''' Good but took me a second read to understand. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 18:08, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
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=== [[impression]] ===
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=== [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] ===
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==== Homestar's Clock ====
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It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.
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==== Elephant Slippers ====
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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When Homestar wears the "elephant" slippers, it may be a reference to when Strong Bad talks on the phone in 50 emails and describes Strong Sad as having "elephant feet" as he tries to sell him.
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==== Charlie Brown ====
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The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.  
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*'''Decline.''' This is a bit of a stretch. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
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'''CLOSED:''' This information is correct, but the consensus is to note it on [[Homestar's House]], which it already is. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline.''' Strong Sad's resemblance to an elephant is a running joke on the site. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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==== Get it off ====
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==== Coach Z's disconnected reciever ====
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Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which <i>Coach</i> Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --[[User:TDK|TDK]]
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Homestar's quick repetition of "get it off" closely mirror's Bubs' renditions of "check it out" and "the end" (and Strong Bad's "The Cheat") in Lookin' at a Thing in a Bag.
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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:'''Decline.''' I don't personally think this is noteworthy, but someone else might, so feel free to move it back if you think it is. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
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==== A running gag? ====
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The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)
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==Games==
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted and ''moved''. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Homestar Runner]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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===[[Bronco Trolleys]]===
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=== [[animal]] ===
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==== Just me being picky ====
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The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:animal]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== Fanglyfish ====
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The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglerfish anglerfish]. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted with modifications. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:animal]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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=== [[virus]] ===
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==== Drive letter ====
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After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command.
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====Wagon Wheel====
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the [http://www.school-house-rock.com Schoolhouse Rock] classic about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
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*'''Accept.'''  I suppose that's interesting.  --[[User:67.161.224.65|67.161.224.65]]
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*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
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== General ==
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====The Compy's Reign====
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This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.
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=== Cross-Toon Facts ===
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'''VERDICT:''' This item was rejected. The discussion has been moved to [[Talk:virus]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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==== Trust ====
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===[[Stinkoman_20X6]]===
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In both the [[The King of Town DVD]] and the [[Search for the Yellow Dello]] commentaries, Strong bad says, "You can't trust him as far as you can throw him."  This may be a referance to the "Employee of the Month" Sponge Bob episode where Squidward says almost the exact same thing.
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*'''Decline'''-Common phrase. &rarr;''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|<font color=green>FireBird</font>]]</tt></small>''
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**'''Decline''' Ditto. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 14:44, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' Ditto^2. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 16:38, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
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**'''Second.''' Pft. Un-likely!-- [[User:Bonkava!|Do I have to do this EVERY time I make a comment???]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:MadEwokHerd|MadEwokHerd]] 10:09, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
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**'''Second.''' --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
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=== The Brothers Chaps ===
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====More Levels====
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When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".
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==== 'Til Death and all that ====
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'''CLOSED.''' This item is now closed because it is obsolete. The discussion can be found at [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6_Walkthrough]]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:46, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Both of the Brothers are married.
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*'''Accept'''. This is valid. I mean...I didn't know that. --[[User:sterrence|sterrence]]
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*'''Accept.''' Where is this on the wiki?  It's obvious that Mike is married b/c of [[Missy Palmer|his wife]] doing Marzipan's voice, but I didn't know about Matt.  --[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
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Current revision as of 01:19, 4 November 2022

This page is preserved here as an archive. The votes are not active. Please see HRWiki:STUFF for active votes.

The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the Strong Bad Email virus. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can Select The Usable Fun Facts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you can still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.

Check out The Archives and the over STUFF'd page for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:

  • References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
  • References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them; everybody knows that Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot of McDonald's, for instance)
  • Verified tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:

  • Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
  • Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
  • Things already noted in the transcript
  • Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
  • Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't necessarily true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to StrongBadZone, then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add {{funfacts}} directly under the == Fun Facts == heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a {{funfacts2}} footer to the end of the list as well.

[edit] Voting

New votes cast should generally be as follows:

  • Accept. To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
  • Revise. The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
  • Rewrite. The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.
  • Decline. Reject the fun fact completely. Please keep in mind not everything is on this page simply to be Declined.
  • Second. Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms delete and keep are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

Remember: you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, create one. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (~~~~). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

[edit] To be done

  • How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. (furrykef's current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
  • Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)

[edit] STUFF'd Facts

[edit] mile

[edit] Fourth Wall Break?

Strong Bad made a Fourth Wall Break when he said that he wasn't going to answer an email that week.

OR

The Cheat made a Fourth Wall Break by making a Strong Bad Email complete with a loading screen and The Paper.

  • I decided to STUFF my own fact after it was deleted (the top one) because I think it could be something of a fourth wall break. On the Talk page, It's dot com said that if that isn't a break, perhaps the Cheat-powered email was, because it not only included just an email, but a loading screen and The Paper, which would not necessarily be needed there. Any revisions/rewrites would be helpful, as I usually can't word these well. I also realize that Strong Bad addressing the viewer isn't normally accepted, but I think the fact that he refused to answer an email from the audience has to be something. So I am going to accept this fact, although I suppose my vote is a bit biased in this case. --SBEmail22 11:03, 16 Jun 2005
  • Accept I'm gonna have to Accept this fact. --Lappy 486 15:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment Probably my last chance for a personal comment on STUFF. Ahem. I want SO badly to vote on this, but I have a different view than almost everyone else on the Wiki concerning Fourth Wall Breaks. So I'll just comment: every single Strong Bad Email implies by its very nature that Strong Bad knows he's being watched (well, okay, in anything it's Homestar) so the first one is tremendously redundant. --Jay (Talk) 16:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Really, they break the fourth wall so often that its not really worth noting. Donny vs Universe
  • COMMENT. Okay, so that may not be in everyone's best favor. What about the second one? --SBEmail22 14:11, 16 Jun 2005 (EST)
    • Not neccesary. Strong Bad speaks to the camera and says that hes "not doing one this week". The entire e-mail is a fourth wall break (more so than normal) so its not neccesary to pick apart specific parts of it. Donny vs Universe

[edit] The House That Gave Sucky Treats

[edit] Is Your Refrigerator Perry Running?

Strong Mad's greeting, "IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING" is obviously a reference to his attempted prank call in Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.0

  • Decline. I think they're both obvious references to the old prank call, but not to each other... Aurora the Homestar Coder 17:29, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 17:30, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline as written. But see revision below. — It's dot com 19:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

REVISE TO: Strong Mad attempted almost the same prank greeting as in this toon on Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.0.

  • Accept the revision. --Upset_Your_Balance 01:18, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. I mean, he must really think that joke is funny. — It's dot com 19:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. -- Tony Stony 19:35, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Please, please, please tell me that the reformed STUFF process will not allow mid-stream changes like this to take place. Sometimes you can hardly tell what is being voted on! -- tomstiff 14:23, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • This is similar to the new format. Everything below the words "revise to" above is separate from the original fact. Notice that I declined the original and accepted the revision. The new format, which we hope to have ready in the next couple of days, will be more clear. — It's dot com 22:34, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Six of one, half dozen of the other, I guess. -- ironcladlou
  • Accept but revise I'd revise it to " Strong Mad's greeting, IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING", is almost the same as his greeting in Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.
    • Sorcorndorned! (seconded) Cheatachu72 18:41, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Still Decline For the reason stated by Aurora. And once again, the revision is almost exactly like the fact originally submitted. Donny vs Universe
    • The difference is subtle, but the original fact states that one refers to the other, whereas the revision merely states that he tries the same joke again, like a running gag. — It's dot com 00:26, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Yeah, I got that. Theres still not that big a difference between the two different wordings. Donny vs Universe
    • Second. -- tomstiff 14:33, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. -Svelt
  • Accept. Much better. --BazookaJoe 17:52, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] dangeresque 3

[edit] So holdable a gun

The line, "Here comes little email with a gun in his hand," is an exact mimic of the line "Here comes little THORAX with a gun in his hand," found on this Thoraxcorp.com page.

  • Neutral Not really sure I care. Donny vs Universes
  • Accept I personally don't care, but I'm sure some people would. Its a true fun fact. -- Tony Stony 03:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. It's worth noting. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:21, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --SBEmail22 12:40, 11 Jun 2005 (EST)
    • Second. Good fun fact. Cute refrence. --MrsCommanderson 16:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Yeah, I like it. --Ju Ju Master 13th June, 2005
  • Accept. --BazookaJoe 18:01, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] People's Court

As he drives, Strong Bad hums "The Theme From Dangeresque," which is actually "The theme From The People's Court".

  • Duh-duh Decline! I don't think so. And don't sign your new facts; sign your votes. --Jay (Talk) 17:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. --BazookaJoe 17:50, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • You've have got a looooooad of nerve telling me not to edit other people. The only reason I'm on this useless STUFF page is because other people, including you, wouldn't leave my post alone.
      • Okay, drop the flaming. On article pages, people are perfectly entitled to remove facts that they don't like, within reason. It is NEVER acceptable to alter someone's comments on a talk page (this isn't TECHNICALLY a talk page but the same rules apply) for any reason, short of removing an entire discussion for space reasons or because it has been obsoleted. --Jay (Talk) 23:13, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept If you just listen to the intro you won't get it. But if you listen at 0:35 and 3:34 it is plain that it is the same theme. It is not the same recording but the same music. Everyone I've shown it to agreed and was grateful that I figured out where they'd heard it before. --FM 21:52, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • That wasn't meant as an insult, I was attempting (though perhaps failing) to imitate the Dangeresque theme in my Decline. --Jay (Talk) 22:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline I listened to it at those times, and while it is very similar, I must say that it is highly unlikely that TBC used the exact theme. That would leave them open to copyright infringement, which would be bad. I do think it sounds like it could be the inspiration, but it is in no way the same song --Some HSR themed username 21:57, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • I got news for you Johnnie Cockran, censoring the info on this page will not protect TBC from copyright infringement. What protects them is that what they do is parody. How do you think they get away with all the Decemberween costumes? They use bits of other peoples work all the time. The best way for them to get in trouble is to NOT admit that it the People's Court and claim it as original. Just ask George Harrison, Ray Parker Jr. and Vanilla Ice.
      • Actually, I'd say it's better to give someone else credit for their work than to use their work and claim it as your own. --No Smorking 03:19, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I just listened (ugh, Real Player) and it's certainly not exactly the same song. Aurora the Homestar Coder 23:08, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Not the same song, no matter how much FM wants it to be. As for copyright info, parody is protected under the fair use law so long as you don't make money off it. TBC have had issues with people stealing thier work before so I doubt they'd be so quick to do it to others. Donny vs Universe

[edit] Experimental Film

[edit] The Water

The image of Strong Sad and the ATM knee-deep in water may be a reference to a scene in the film "Donnie Darko," where a similar image can be seen, and it may also be the experimental film Strong Sad mentions in his commentary.

  • Decline I think its just a coincidence. -- Tony Stony 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Boo BOOOO!! A pox on the maker of this fun fact! And using may twice? For shame! Donny vs Universes
  • Oh, well I'll just get out my thesaurus! --VolatileChemical 05:53, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Decline with a comment. So wait, VolatileChemical, is that a decline? Or is that just a comment? --SBEmail22 13:20, 11 Jun 2005 (EST)
    • Second both the vote and the question. --Jay (Talk) 19:24, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • It was just a sarcastic comment. No, it wasn't a decline in any way. Are the submitters even aloud to vote? --VolatileChemical 02:42, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • If they're not allowed to vote, then I break the rules left and right - I almost always vote on a fact right as I submit it. --Jay (Talk) 01:21, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • I think it's a good idea for a submitter to vote and explain his/her vote, so other users can see why it was stuffed in the first place. And decline to this ridiculous fact. Aurora the Homestar Coder 01:28, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • I usually just delete silly facts like this one. When I do STUFF, I most certainly vote! -- tomstiff 14:20, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
          • Second to all these subcomments. — It's dot com 18:25, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. -- tomstiff 17:32, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Donnie Declineo Sorry. Cheatachu72 03:38, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • My mouth tastes like... Decline. --Upset_Your_Balance 05:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] sisters

[edit] Love/Hate Relationship

"I hate this computer" is probably a reference to "I liked that computer" in gimmicks.

  • Accept This seems to be a clear reference to me, but people keep deleting it because they don't see a connection. The joke is, of course, that Strong Bad pronounced that he liked the computer in "gimmicks" but rescinds on that statement as soon as he gets annoyed. Aurora the Homestar Coder 21:05, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 21:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Makes sense to me. --SBEmail22 19:00, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
    • Second. Aurora's comment rings true. -- Tony Stony 01:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. — It's dot com 04:41, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. --BazookaJoe 04:45, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Neutral. Well, when he said that he hated the computer, I did recall that he had previously stated that he liked the computer. The fun fact is speculatory, but it's not too big of a stretch, so... I'm staying neutral on this one for now. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:23, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Aw, what the hey? Everybody else is doing it, so... Accept. --Upset_Your_Balance 05:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • Oh, I almost forgot to tell you... Later on today we're all going to go jump off a cliff. See you there! ;)
        • I'll be there! --Upset_Your_Balance
          • Don't let your mom catch wind of our plans, though. I know she'll just try to talk you out of it using some ol' cliché. — It's dot com
  • Accept ^^ That was pretty weird. Anyways, I always thought that was obvious, but I'd still accept it. --Ju Ju Master 13th June, 2005
  • DeclineNot because it isn't true, but because it explains the joke. Fun facts like that aren't fun. Sometimes its GOOD to let viewers figure this stuff out on their own. Donny vs Universe
    • The point of inside references to explain when the joke relies on something else on the website which the viewer may not have seen. Aurora the Homestar Coder 22:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • Second Aurora's comment. I never read the fun facts until after watching the email a coupla times, so there's no problem with a joke explanation spoiling it for me - in fact, it gives me a bonus chuckle. Eric 00:24, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • I undestand the concept behind inside references. Jeez, condescend much? But whatever, this fact is going to pass anyway so theres not much point arguing about it. Donny vs Universe
      • I'm just saying, what's the point of voting on Stuff if you're against the idea of Inside References? Aurora the Homestar Coder 15:17, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • I'm not against inside references (and even if I was, wouldn't that give me even more reason to vote on these?) its just that the joke seems pretty self explanatory. Even more so considering that Gimmicks up to Sisters is meant to be seen as a continuing story of sorts.Donny vs Universe
        • It's not self-explanatory if the viewer has not seen gimmicks, which is the whole point of this fact -- to let the viewer know that this email relates to gimmicks. Aurora the Homestar Coder 18:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • Assumedly, most people aren't running to the Wiki before they view these cartoons. I stand by my statement: the joke is self explanatory. Donny vs Universe
          • Most people don't watch all Strong Bad emails in order. They could just have seen "sisters" and not "gimmick." Aurora the Homestar Coder 23:02, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
          • Like I said: Most people aren't running to the wiki before they watch the cartoons. Meaning that the facts listed here are for people who are interested in knowing the more obscure things about the toons. This joke isn't obscure. Erego, its not worth listing because most people will get it. Donny vs Universe

[edit] Homestar Runner's Website

[edit] World Wide Wed...SB reference?

Wedsite may refer to Strong Bad's Website, because one of the .gif images says "World Wide Wed".

  • Uh, no. It may not. Decline. --ISlayedTheKerrek 03:27, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. -- tomstiff 17:19, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • ...In their DECLINED FUN FACTS! DECLINED FUN FACTS! Aunt Gert may refer to SBEmail 22! Homestar may refer to Homsar! Cheatachu72 02:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • This sort of thing is getting really old. I would appreciate it if everyone would refrain from placing their emotional outbursts on STUFF. They're fun facts, people, not heinous insults about your mothers. Aurora the Homestar Coder 18:36, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • I've been against the whole Fun Fact Validation Committee thingummybob, but y'know, maybe I'm changin' my mind. -- tomstiff 18:42, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • It's dot com was working on a fun fact revamp a while ago which would get rid of this sort of thing. We should probably think about getting that up. Aurora the Homestar Coder 18:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • Let me make a couple of modifications, and then if it's okay with everyone, I'll put a link to it on this page. — It's dot com 19:39, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] boring (really)

[edit] 102 Exclamations

There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates (an even 100 distinct words).

  • Weak Decline. Obviously, this is true, so that's not the issue here. But is it noteworthy? — It's dot com 19:12, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak Accept. For people who might vaguely be interested seeing it there, but couldn't be bothered counting for themselves... phlip TC 19:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Meh, why not? But change it to say, "There are 102 total words in the list [of 3-letter words], counting the two duplicates. That makes an even 100 distinct words." --BazookaJoe 19:55, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second but that rewrite doesn't sound quite right. Chaneg the period after duplicates to a comma and the that to which.
    • Second. Geez, I thought there were only 50 or so... sounds "fun" enough for me. --SBEmail22 19:04, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
  • Accept. Shrug. And I'm the one that added it! I was curious, so I counted 'em. -- tomstiff 20:03, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Yeah. Its true. However, these are called "Fun Facts" for a reason, and people can count for themselves if they really want to. I dunno why anyone would, but... -- Tony Stony 01:26, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak Accept. 'Ey, people might be curious, and this'll save 'em the time it takes to count the words. --Upset_Your_Balance 16:59, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment Do you actually think that someone would seriously care how many words Strong Bad typed? Hey if so I think we need to put a wordcount on all of the sbemails from now..just in case. And while you are at it, it might be necessary to count exacly how many frames there are in each toon. People might be curious. -- Tony Stony 02:21, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. I think it is interesting that there are exactly 100 unique words. --Hamrodrunner 21:28, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Why not? --AnarchyBalsac
  • Try, wet, cod, ACC, EPT I am way too lazy to count myself. KEEP IT! Cheatachu72 18:42, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Universal Decline This vote goes for this and the facts below. Since they're clearly not goofs (why remove the link if its going to be back up about two seconds later?) and because they're not interesting enough to be remarks. This is just anal cataloging, not trivia. Donny vs Universe
  • Accept!! >:( There is nothing anal about this! This is what a Fun Fact is supposed to be! I don't see anything at all wrong with this. The only anal thing here is declining this! -- Lappy 486 23:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • They did it on purpose, its not really interesting...soooo...I declined it. Donny vs Universe

[edit] Are these really goofs? part 1

You can still click on The Paper, the "back" link on the Lappy 486, and the Easter Egg words even when the screen fades to black temporarily.

  • Decline. Uninteresting, and I don't think it was a mistake on TBC's part. The links don't disappear in Flash just because you're changing colors. — It's dot com 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak Accept. It wasn't listed as a Goof last I saw. I think it's okay under the heading "Strong Bad's List of Words" or "Remarks" but not under "Goofs." I don't feel too strongly either way about this one. I don't think it'd hurt to have it around, but it wouldn't break my heart to see it gone. --Upset_Your_Balance 00:31, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Relocate? I think that this (as well as both the other "goofs," but I don't feel like triple-voting) could just go in its own "remarks" section. --SBEmail22 13:06, 8 Jun 2005 (EST)
    • Comment. This "goof" was a remark in the first place. The only reason it's being declined is because whomever STUFF'd it claimed that it was listed as a goof. --Upset_Your_Balance 06:47, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • I'll upset your balance. (Sorry, I've always wanted to say that.) I didn't try to find out this fact's whole history, but when I STUFF'd it, it was definitely listed as a goof. Either way, my vote would still be to decline it no matter where it would be listed. — It's dot com 19:45, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • My vote is decline whether it's a goof or a remark. I just don't think it's an interesting fact. Aurora the Homestar Coder 22:35, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • No probalo! If you choose to decline it because you don't find it very interesting, then that's fine. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:04, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Prepare to experience the fury of.... Accepppt... *cerkit* Relocate to Remarks and this would be fine; they've noted this in other places.

[edit] Are these really goofs? part 2

The "back" link in the far lower left corner is still there after the Lappy 486 fades back in.

This fact was removed from the goofs section. If you vote to accept it, be sure to indicate whether you consider it a true goof or just a remark.
  • Decline. It was probably more trouble to make it completely disappear than to just make it transparent. Possibly a remark, but not a goof. — It's dot com 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 18:21, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept I disagree. They could have completely removed it (the other "Back" button is still there) so this should be noted. --Jay (Talk) 20:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Do you mean as a remark or a goof? A remark I could go for, but I don't think it qualifies as a bona fide goof. — It's dot com 21:24, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • Remark. I didn't pay close attention to your vote. Yeah, it's very questionable that this is a "Goof." --Jay (Talk) 22:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. It's okay as a remark, but if this is noted, then the STUFF'd fact above it should be used instead. Neither one should be used as a goof though. --Upset_Your_Balance 00:38, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept I think this is noteworthy..it surprised me. -- Tony Stony 01:02, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Ooh, a variation of the fun fact I put in. I should have STUFF'd it myself instead of adding it, but anyways, I think hat since at the end there are two back buttons, which is uncommon, or possibly never happened before, it's a quality fun fact. I like it. --Ju Ju Master 13th June, 2005
    • Oh, whoops. Forgot to say whether it's a goof or remark. Truly, I don't know what they mean exactly, I'm quite new to the wiki, but as long as it gets accepted, I don't care (If someone could clear up what the diference between a goof and remark is, that'd be great) --Ju Ju Master

[edit] Are these really goofs? part 3

If you click "try, wet, cod," and leave it up, it will still be there when the screen fades back in.

  • Decline. Yeah, so? Again, if anything this is a remark, not a goof. — It's dot com 18:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept, but not as GoofThis is actually worth noting, kinda. -- Lappy 486 23:42, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] «Insert hilarious joke here»

The way Strong Bad pronounces the phrase "Her" (here) is similar to the way that rap artist Nelly pronounces the word in the song "Hot in Herre", and is possibly a reference to such.

  • Decline The word "her" isn't even in the song "Hot in Herre" (google for lyrics). So, at best this "fact" is that SB pronounces the word "Her" the same way Nelly pronounces the word "Herre". Which is about as likely to be a reference as it is to the fact that SB pronounces it similar to the way my roommate pronounces the word "her". --Eytanz 09:14, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • And fwom now on, people named Henwy cannot call themselves Hank; that's just too much of a stwetch. As is this Fun Fact. Decline! Why wasn't this deleted instead of STUFF'd? This one is so stretched, it's capable of reaching other galaxies. --Upset_Your_Balance 14:56, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. -- tomstiff 14:39, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. He said "her" because he took off the last "e". Simple as that.
  • Second. It's seems more like how the word "hair" is pronounced in the song "Right Thur". --SBEmail22 11:37, 10 Jun 2005 (EST)
  • DeclineProbably not good material for a Fun Fact.
  • Revise When originally posted, this did not limit the reference to the one song. Strong Bad has referenced modern hip-hop on several occasions, but most people refuse to believe this for some reason. This is totally a reference to southern rappers (such as Nelly and Chingy) and their pronounciation. If not, why?

[edit] You said doyng again!

Strong Bad's hesitation before saying "doing" to Homestar is a reference to Homestar's commentary on the word in car.

  • Accept! Cute fun fact. I've always liked that "doing" thing.--MrsCommanderson 20:13, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Maybe it's cute, and maybe you liked the "doing" thing—but does that make it a reference? --Jay (Talk) 20:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. This got deleted, but I think it's a valid reference. As soon as Strong Bad said "what are you..." I immediately thought "you said doyng again!" Maybe that's just me. Aurora the Homestar Coder 15:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. When Strong Bad hesitated ("What are you, ummm..."), I leaned forward with anticipation to see if he would say "doing" or "doyng", and what Homestar's response would be. I decline this because it isn't a reference; Strong Bad just hesitated because he was bored... and thats what... bored people... do. Now if Homestar said something about "doyng" in response, I would have accepted this. --BazookaJoe 15:39, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. I was one of the deleters. I maybe should have been a little more explicit about why. Well, this is why. -- tomstiff 16:04, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. I, too, thought he might say it... and then he didn't — It's dot com 17:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Yeah, and Homestar hesitates before saying "closing," which is OBVIOUSLY a reference to The House That Gave Sucky Treats, when the door closes after you give each treat. Come on, this is a coincidence. --Jay (Talk) 15:54, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline I don't think its even a coincidence because there is no connection to this and Car other than the word "doing". At any rate this e-mail contains alot of awkward pauses so yeah, I doubt any of them were meant to be references. Donny vs Universe
  • Accept -- Tony Stony 01:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I'll admit, I thought he was about to make that reference there, but he didn't. --Upset_Your_Balance 17:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept'D Mmm-hmm. Cheatachu72 03:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept - it's not just a simple pause. Strong Bad grabs his head like he's reconsidering saying it because of the potential horrible consequences. -- Cyrius 05:55, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept! - That's what I thought of when I saw it. Besides, that pause is large, even compared to the rest... of... the... e-mail... -- Super Sam 11:24, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • It's not THAT large, and the "grabs his head" doesn't really mean much - Strong Bad does that a lot. Maybe he's just scratching his head because he doesn't know what Homestar is doing. If the word "doyng" had actually been heard from either party, this reference would be clear, but it didn't. "Doing" is just a word, and a pause is sometimes just a pause. --Jay (Talk) 20:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment: It wasn't just a pause. He said, "What are you... um... doing..."
      • Still doesn't mean anything. Homestar used to put "um" before every third word regardless of context. This is nothing more than simple speculation. --Jay (Talk) 21:10, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Like Jay said, "doing" is just a word. GG Crono 20:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Mighty big piece of conjecture there. --Big Dog 17:18, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Acceptinating the Countryside. I think we ALL remember that one. -Walking Armless
    • Of course we all remember that one. The people who post here don't forget stuff like that. But is this a reference? I know it comes close, but does Strong Bad actually reference "car"? No, he does not. — It's dot com 01:53, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • You said ACCEPTED again! --Iml91 20:14, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • DID YOU JUST SAY "ACCEPT"? --Me
  • This fact is currently WINNING?!?! I'm really losing faith in STUFF between this and facts like "Change of Pace"... --Jay (Talk) 19:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • You know whats even worse? The people who are declining the "get out of here kid" fact are using the same logic we're using to decline this one. And theres not that big a difference between this fact and that one. A repeated (and incredibly common) phrase does not contstitute a reference. Donny vs Universe
      • Or the fact right below this, which was somewhat ironically Declined by one of this fact's Acceptors. I sometimes think that people vote on the facts they simply want to be true, regardless of whether or not they really believe them to be. --Jay (Talk) 06:05, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • What are you, um... Declining? I decline this, because there is no way TBC would put a stupid reference like that in. It was to make them talk slower, people!!! --Lappy 486 23:47, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC) !!!!
  • Accept Not only do i think this is a reference, i love that joke, i quote it several times a day even "um...what are you doyng?" by the way, doing is spelled the same as doing, hm....Because, It's Midnite

[edit] Oops, I STUFF'd it!

Homestar saying "Oops, I lost it." is probably a reference to him saying "Oops, you bwoke it." in a similar voice in the system sounds quote pack.

  • Decline. Homestar reuses words in the English language, as we all do. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. This is an obvious reference to the Decline above. -- tomstiff 03:52, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I think not sir. -- Tony Stony 14:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • but they both have the word oops in it guys!!...lol..but yeah decline
    • You're supposed to sign your vote, you know... I'm gonna remain neutral on this one because it close but a bit too stretchy. --SBEmail22 14:38, 12 Jun 2005 (EST)
  • Decline. Correct to point out overwhelming similarity, but that's b/c both lines were said by Homestar, and that's the way he talks. Imagine making Fun Facts every time Strong Bad said "deleted." Svelt 06:00, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Sometimes people just say stuff. --Ju Ju Master 13th June, 2005

[edit] Boring sound

The machine drilling sound is similar to that of the sun-buzzsaw in Teen Girl Squad Issue 3.

  • Decline. Not only are these sounds not the same pitch, they aren't even for the same tool. This is just a noise that sounds somewhat similar to another noise on the site, and just like some re-used words on the site, it is certainly not a reference whatsoever. I decline this as a possible Remark, too, because this comparison is highly irrelevant. --BazookaJoe 01:17, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Reusing the same sound effects, the same graphical effects (these fireworks are the same ones from that one main page), and especially the same words from the English language do not count as references. If an entire phrase or event from another toon is reused, maybe with a 25% difference at the most, then it might be a legitimate fun fact. --Upset_Your_Balance 01:24, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 19:43, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Bah, you guys are missing an even more important point: Strong Bad makes both sound effects. Of course they sound similiar. Donny vs Universe

[edit] Senorial Day

[edit] Vera low

The word "vera" from when Senor Cardgage says "vera low prices" actually means "true" in Italian, "genuine" in Greek, and "side" in Spanish.

  • Decline Which might mean something if it wasn't just Senor Cardgage mispronouncing "very." I mean, "doe" is a real word (in English, no less!) but we don't have a fact explaining its meaning when Cardgage says "Doe NOT miss out!" --Jay (Talk) 18:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I wouldn't have minded seeing this under Trivia, but then again, I can see its irrelevance. --BazookaJoe 20:21, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Prezactly. phlip TC 01:07, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Sort of Accept Scince his name is SENOR Cardgage, this could support the assumation that he could be from a Latin/Hispanic country.
    • It's Senor, but not Señor. --Jay (Talk) 04:28, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • If it were in Spanish, I think it would have had to be prounounced like "bera". It could also be taken as Cardgage once again using a woman's name for no good reason as Vera is an actual name. 'Nother words, this fact is just another TTOTOT canidate. Decline Donny vs Universes

[edit] little animal

[edit] Used once more

The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad will be used again in Where's The Cheat?.

  • Umm... Where's The Cheat? came before little animal... so Rewrite as "The music for when Strong Mad chases Strong Bad is from Where's The Cheat?." phlip TC 15:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second This was probably written before the dates were added to the pages. Though I thought I'd fixed it, maybe I only fixed it on Where's The Cheat's page. --Jay (Talk) 15:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • second Though this fact COULD become dated if they used the music again. On the other hand its been awhile since Little Animal os thats doubtful. Donny vs Universe
  • Y'know, just checking STUFF, kicking cheats, I'm GONNA DELETE YOU TOO! "DAA!" I've said it before and I'll say it again, TBC REUSE NOISES AND LOOP ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY! Cheatachu72 22:25, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • second "If a little fact came up to me, I'd decline it"Maestro 22:45, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • They do not re-use music ALL THE LIVE LONG DAY. Only when clearly making references, and in this case. Don't confuse sound effects with music. --Jay (Talk) 04:27, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • 9_9. Cheatachu72 00:49, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Let's hear your best "DECLINED." In order to be a "fun fact," it has to be "fun." This is just dumb and boring. - aaronak 11:42, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept for Trivia. This isn't terribly interesting information, but TBC rarely reuse music, so it is notable. -Svelt

[edit] time capsule

[edit] The Life Saving Turtle

The turtle featured in the newspaper clipping is the same one used in new hands.

  • D'oh, how come I didn't see this? I compared the screenshots. And...they look like the same thing. So, for me, it's an ACCEPT?! -MK and/or BurnBox 22:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • I'm not gonna call him Slowbie, now I'm gonna call him ACCEPT. Cheatachu72 00:51, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Good eyes. -Svelt

[edit] Main Page 22

[edit] ALL WRONG.......

Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the Homestar Talker.

VERDICT: The fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Main Page 22. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:16, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

CONTEST: I believe this fact was rejected for mistaken reasons. Examine the evidence and you'll agree. I have therefore contested this ruling on the respective talk page. — It's dot com 06:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!

[edit] Unaired Episodes!

"teenage girl show! Revamped for the 90's. More humor! Finer dining! See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!"

I think this is a reference to the well-known Japanime Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls, was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out including a holiday special and two episodes in which, indeed, everybody dies. Purplefeltangel 14:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Oh, if you want it to be ACCEPTED... Heh, nice refrence! =) Pretty good!--MrsCommanderson 00:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept'd! That does make sense. I think it's a good find. And they have already made reference to Sailor Moon in the 17th main page. Ramrod 17:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Nuetral I'm going to pull a Switzerland here for now, and let me just say that shouldn't this go on the talk page not STUFF? The Pardack
    • Comment RACISM Sorry, I misunderstood. thought he ment something TOTALLY differnt by it--Because, It's Midnite
      • What? By "Switzerland", he means "not taking sides," as Switzerland (the country) hasn't done in any 20th century war. It's not a racist remark. --Jay (Talk) 19:34, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
        • By Switzerland I just ment I was being nuetral but if you guys think it's racist I'll change it. The Pardack
          • Switzerland is acceptable to me. It's been used before (*CoughSSBMcough*!). Anyway, I'll... Weak Accept! Kvb 12:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. If all that is true, then it's a good Fun Fact. --Upset_Your_Balance 18:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Uh, "I think?" Automatic Decline. --ISlayedTheKerrek 18:42, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Hmmm. Decline! Remember that inside joke: "1987". It has probably been 3-4 years (in the homestar world) since those cartoons that talk about 1987. Example: Cheat Commandos --Gooblies 19:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise and Accept The "I think" part is against Wiki rules, right? Other than that, it's all right for tonight. -- Lappy 486 21:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Minor revise and AcceptCut out the "thinking", and I say its valid.-- Tony Stony 22:10, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Nah, Decline. You came kinda close, but I'm a Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon fan, and even though it's true: They have episodes where everyone dies, and unaired (at least in America) episodes, but this shouldn't exactly show any reference to the anime. That's stretching it a bit. SaikoRoxi 8:16 PM, May 23, 2005
  • Revise and accept. Make it like this: 
The description for the "teenage girl show" is a reference to the 
well-known Japanese series Sailor Moon, which featured teen girls. It 
was revamped for '90s North America, and had many episodes cut out,
including a holiday special and two episodes in which everybody dies.

I could live with that. -- Joshua 00:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Accepted for the '90s! --kerrek slaya 00:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Makes perfect sense to me. -- SBEmail22
  • Decline I have a headache now, thanks alot. It COULD be, but its not a specific enough joke to put a reference on. Donny vs Universe
    • Sailor Second. A rather speculative connection. The evidence just isn't enough to make it a clear Sailor Moon reference. --Beatfox 04:33, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment If the evidence in this fact is true, I think the connection is obvious. -- Joshua
  • Acceptalized. 82.43.178.225
  • Rainbow Moon Heart Accept! Nice find! -- Kiwi 16:55, 24 May 2005
  • Accept. It doesn't get much more referencey than that! --Hamrodrunner 00:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment This is far too stretched out to be a reference to Sailormoon. It could be referencing anything. It could just be referencing television series' in general. I'm sure this has nothing to do with Sailormoon. SaikoRoxi 3:26 PM, 25 May 2005
    • Oh yeah, it's referencing post-Dil Rugrats, all right. Yup, it's sooooooooo clear. Kiwi 18:18, 26 May 2005
    • Or you know, just a thought but maybe, MAYBE its just a joke and not every last thing TBC write is meant to have some other meaning or act as some inside joke. Donny vs Universe
      • Second (the decline). If Sailor Moon had, at some point been advertised with phrases along the lines of "revamped for the 90s! See the episode where everyone dies!" I'd agree, but as it stands, I can't see that there's enough of a connection. It would be as if your friend said, "My orange tabby cat is 23 years old--all she does is sleep all day," and somehow concluding that your friend was making a joke reference to Garfield. --rsl12 00:46, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline, yo. Seriously, you guys. When have I just put decline? I always have a clever pun! Cheatachu72 04:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Another comment - Actually, it's probably not even referencing anything. - SaikoRoxi
  • Decline It sounds similar, but if it's not a proven reference, it doesn't belong. - Song from 60s 22:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline This is pretty conjectural; references that aren't explicitly stated would seem to need a lot more support than this.--Big Dog 00:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Enilced!!! I don't think TBC watches Sailor Moon anyhow.EdgeKing 20:41, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)EdgeKing
  • Decline. This item was closed and listed as being "unanimously accepted". That's not true at all. — It's dot com 04:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Provided the similarities mentioned are true.... 1. TBC watch anime (i.e., Japanese cartoon & Stinko Man); 2. TBC have previously made explicit reference to Sailor Moon (Mainpage 17); and 3. both Teen Girl Squad and Sailor Moon have four original main characters that are teeny-bopper girls. I don't watch or like the series but I see the similarity. -Svelt

[edit] The Luau

[edit] Unexpected guests?

In Strong Bad's marshmallow roast, he was seen with 16 name tags. Yet, at the time, only 11 characters existed, and even if Homsar did, there would still be too many. Also, Strong Sad and Marzipan were at the luau, and the KOT was uninvited, so only eight tags were used, (Unless someone wasn't wearing one).

  • Decline. Don't over-brain a joke! -- tomstiff 13:29, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I think TBC were just filling up screen space. By cartoon logic, we can assume that Strong Bad bought a whole pack of nametags and decided to use them all. Furthermore, this fact is simply uninteresting. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Strong Bad was probably hoping some girls would show up :p Aurora the Homestar Coder 17:50, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second -- Tony Stony 01:33, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -Svelt
      • Comment... But why would he call the girls "crap-for-brains"? -Kiwi 20:46, 16 Jun 2005

[edit] unused emails

[edit] CDs

This is the only time that Strong Bad actually USES a CD. He probably used The Cheat's computer.

  • Decline. At least as written. An "only time" fact is always a bad fact. -- tomstiff 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • possible rewriteI get what this one is saying. Strong Bad's computer is clearly too old to have a CD drive and therefore wouldn't be able to burn CDs. Donny vs Universe
  • Rewrite. This would work as a Remark or an "oops!" in that the Compy can't write CD's. No evidence yet that the Tangerine Dream can burn CD's, so that should be left out. -Svelt

[edit] Stinkoman_20X6

[edit] Different Colors

The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.

  • Decline "May be"s do not belong as fun facts. Besides, the Zelda series is not the only series that does that. --NFITC1
    • Second'd. Decline for same reasons.Maestro 16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Second -- Tony Stony 20:16, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment Zelda isn't the only game or series of games, true; the game that sprung to mind was Super Mario Brothers 2, where several enemies had red and blue forms that affected their movement. Crystallina 19:55, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tiny eye difference

The right eye of CPU 1-up in level 5 and the right eye of the player's 1-up in level 5 is slightly different. (Unfortunately, I don't even know why I put this up?) If you don't believe me, go to Fanstuff.Hrwiki.org, look at cheat Stinkoman 20X6, download it, go to level 4. Then, press "U" and "3". You will see the difference.

  • Decline. -- tomstiff 16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Massive Rewrite
    The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.
    That second phrase could possibly go too, depending on whether people think it needs clarifying. phlip TC 06:59, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Accept as rewritten. — It's dot com 14:42, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Liekand's magic pockets

Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.


[edit] Recently closed items

[edit] rock opera

[edit] Angled?

The frozen pond that Dangeresque falls into in the Easter Egg may be the same pond from lures & jigs from another angle.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:rock opera. -- tomstiff 19:45, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Error?

On the newspaper clippin' of (Perhaps) The Deke's rave review, the word "of" is double-underlined, apparently by hand. Strong Bad appears to have noted that the word was not capitalized, and duly marked the error.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:rock opera. -- tomstiff 13:27, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] guitar

[edit] That's got to be "Barracuda" by Heart

Strong Bad's rhythm guitar music is clearly inspired by the intro to "Barracuda" by Heart.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:guitar. -- tomstiff 14:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] kind of cool

[edit] Homestar's Singing

When Homestar sings his various phrases, it is the same melody as the chorus of "The Cheat Is Not Dead".

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:kind of cool. -- tomstiff 13:22, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] privileges

[edit] Fretmagic Kids!

"Kids" at the end of the title may be a reference to the fact that some magazines form a spinoff magazine aimed at a younger audience and add something like "kids" or "for kids" at the end of the title, such as Sports Illustrated for Kids.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:privileges. -- tomstiff 13:19, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] flashback

[edit] Emails

How can the Compy know that Strong Bad has answered 100 e-mails if it wasn't there to see the Tandy emails?

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:flashback. -- tomstiff 13:20, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] pom pom

[edit] hidden frame

For those of us using a seek bar there is a broken frame between the two easter eggs; a single frame of a black object that doesn't appear anywhere in the email itself.

VERDICT: This item was unanimously declined. It was closed early because, as a rule, Flash artifacts are not fun facts. If you wish to contest this, see Talk:pom pom. — It's dot com 12:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] part-time job

[edit] The Answering Room

Judging from what's in it, the room that Strong Bad was in was probably a kitchen.

VERDICT: This item was unanimously declined. It was closed early because, as a rule, things noted in the transcript are not fun facts. If you wish to contest this, see Talk:part-time job. — It's dot com 12:43, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] boring (really)

[edit] Definitely not the hat, though

One of Strong Bad's three letter words, "fez", is a refference to the charecter Fez from That '70s Show.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:boring (really) -- tomstiff 21:04, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] old comics

[edit] Domenico da Comma! Live at Woodstock!!

"Discoveration of Comma" may be a reference to the urban legend of Domenico da Comma, the supposed inventor of the comma. The fact that the Poopsmith speaks only in commas may also be a reference to the Peanuts cartoon strip, in which Woodstock could only speak in chicken scratch.

VERDICT: This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to Talk:old comics. -- tomstiff 18:02, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] secret recipes

[edit] The king eats deodorant...but what does he reference?

The King of Town's quip about the deodorants being "strong enough for a man" is a reference to "Secret" brand deodorant ads, whose slogan used to be "Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman." It's also a reference to Imperial Margarine adverts from the 1970's, wherein the slogan was "Imperial Margarine...with flavour fit for a King!".

VERDICT: This fact was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to Talk:secret recipes. -- tomstiff 17:56, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] cheatday

[edit] Get outta here kid?

Strong Bad saying "Get outta here kid!" to Bubs is a reference to the Thnikkaman's catch phrase "Shut up kid!"

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:cheatday. -- tomstiff 18:07, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 3 Times Halloween Funjob

[edit] 3 Coins Halloween Punjob

The money Bubs gives to Homestar at the beginning consists of two silver coins and a copper one. Bubs says that 16 cents is Homestar's change, so the two silver coins must be a nickel and a dime while the copper one is a penny.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:3 Times Halloween Funjob. -- tomstiff 18:10, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Senorial Day

[edit] Old Gron Sad voice?

Strong Sad seems to be using an older style of his voice in his easter egg. When he says "Somebody hit me on the slant," his voice is normal again.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- tomstiff 15:16, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hoppity Freddie of Values?

The frog Bubs dresses up as looks exactly like Fredddie the Frog from the early 70s TV series New Zoo Revue

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The dicussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- tomstiff 19:48, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Lurking around

Strong Sad says: "Oh, there's nothing like going out for a lonely lurk on a lovely Spring night." The "lurk" is a reference to garage sale, where Strong Sad is called a Lurker by Strong Bad.

VERDICT: This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- tomstiff 15:12, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Senor Shrub

The shrub under the tent is the same as the shrub that Senor Cardgage/Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad suspiciously comes out from behind in kind of cool.

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- 14:37, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Señor Senior, Sr.

Notice that when Strong Bad says "Mister Senor, sir," he is saying three different synonyms of the same word in a row (assuming we substitute "Señor" for "Senor.")

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- 14:35, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Oh, what a feeling

The "Bubsotathon" is a spoof of a Toyota sales event called "Toyotathon".

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Senorial Day. -- tomstiff 16:32, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] time capsule

[edit] Eyes

Homestar's eyes appear to be placed closer together in this email than usual.

VERDICT: This item was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:time capsule. — It's dot com 01:51, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Isle of Pom?

The time capsule looks an awful lot like the The Isle of Pom.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:time capsule. -- tomstiff 20:16, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] long pants

[edit] No "la dee la dee la"?

Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the Intro.

VERDICT: This item was narrowly accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:long pants. — It's dot com 01:44, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Edga Jr. removes text?

Strong Bad opens up Edga Jr. and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

VERDICT: This item was accepted with slight modifications. The discussion has been moved to Talk:long pants. — It's dot com 16:50, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] monster truck

[edit] Get Back Loretta!

The sender of the e-mail "Stan and Loretta" is a nod to "Monty Python's The Life of Brian" where a character named Stan, played by Eric Idle, says he wants to be a woman and he wants to be called "Loretta."

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:monster truck. -- tomstiff 18:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Luau

[edit] Reference?

In the beggining of the toon, when Homestar is "standing behind the gazebo", may be a reference to "A Jumping Jack Contest".

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:The Luau. -- tomstiff 18:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] anything

[edit] The 404 411 on half and half

"Half and half" is a type of cream made from half cream and half milk.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:anything. -- tomstiff 18:19, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] do over

[edit] Tandy 400 Goofs

When Strong Bad does over the sisters and little animal emails, the star logo is further left than in the original and "contrast" is written in a different font.

VERDICT: This item was unanimously accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. — It's dot com 01:18, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Totally not gettin' old?

"Anydangway" is a reference to car, in which Strong Bad said the same thing.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. -- tomstiff 20:18, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] George W. Stnank

Strong Bad's reply of "I've never actually made a mistake" is a reference to George W. Bush's response to the same question.

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. -- tomstiff 18:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stnank or Not?

Technically, Strong Bad didn't make the "stnank" in sisters, the Tandy deleted the email without Strong Bad telling it to.

VERDICT: After more than three weeks of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] A Type of Bad Grammar

This is the first email in which we see a type of DELETED on The Lappy.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. --Upset_Your_Balance 04:27, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Grammatically Incorrect

Right before Strong Bad talks about mistakes, he makes two grammatical mistakes. "Alright" is improper, as it is a misspelling of "all right". Additionally, "What would I do different?" is improper adjective/adverb use (should be "differently").

VERDICT: This fact has been rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:do over. -- tomstiff 20:20, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] cheat talk

[edit] To "T" or not to "T"

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad types The Cheat's name with a lowercase T. Usually the T is uppercase as it is considered part of his name.

VERDICT: After a month of voting, this fact was narrowly rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:cheat talk. --Upset_Your_Balance 05:08, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stinkomanual

[edit] Saargtsson Ltd.

The quote on Saargtsson's page is attributed to Saargtson-Bosch GmbH. Robert Bosch GmbH is an actual German company. (revised)

VERDICT: This item was accepted with modifications. The discussion can be found at Talk:Stinkomanual. — It's dot com 01:03, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] labor day

[edit] Strong Bad referencing Lucky?

In the Schenectady Crispies egg, Strong bad says "I hope I don't get caught!" This could be a reference to Lucky Charms, in which Lucky, the cereal making leprechaun, is constantly avoiding getting caught by the kids who want his cereal.

VERDICT: This fact was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:labor day. -- tomstiff 16:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bug In Mouth Disease

[edit] Music by TMBG?

The opening theme is somewhat like They Might Be Giants', "Till My Head Falls Off". The beat is the same, but the Bug In Mouth Disease one is slower and has a drum loop and heavier keyboard sounds.

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Bug in Mouth Disease. — It's dot com 00:39, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 555-What?

The 555 numbers on Bubs' business cards are a reference to the 555 numbers traditionally used in movies, television, and radio. (Revised.)

VERDICT: This item, with modifications, was accepted as an explanation. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Bug in Mouth Disease. — It's dot com 00:39, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] comic

[edit] CORRECTIONED

the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for comic

VERDICT. Part of the above info was accepted in a modified form. The discussion has been moved to Talk:comic. — It's dot com 17:32, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] garage sale

[edit] Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

VERDICT: This fact was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:garage sale. -- tomstiff 18:25, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] theme park

[edit] Will The Real Ryan S. Please Stand Up?

(A)The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Shoulders from the TV show Survivor: Pearl Islands (airing in late 2003). In episode 2, Ryan S. goes to pick up a message (aka "treemail" on the show). While picking it up, he says, "The treemail, the treemail, wha wha the treemail," a play on the opening to techno.

(B)The "Ryan S." on the box of General Tso's chicken is a reference to Ryan Sterritt, a friend of the Brothers Chaps who has helped with the website in the past.

VERDICT: Both of these were accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:theme park. — It's dot com 17:18, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] couch patch

[edit] Computer miscommunications

At the beginning of the email, Strong Bad tells Compy not to give him any cross talk. This is refering to the transient signal interference that comes from two wires running parallel to each other which can cause erroneous signals to be sent/received. (I welcome rewrite suggestions)

VERDICT: This item was narrowly declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:couch patch. — It's dot com 17:07, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Blue Laser Commander

[edit] A legendary voice, you screech?

The voice of the Commander is almost certainly a reference to the legendary voice-work of the late Chris Latta, best known as the voices of Starscream from Transformers and Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe.

CLOSED. This fact has been closed. The discussion has been moved to the relevant talk page. — It's dot com

[edit] Under Construction

[edit] Get That Character A Kleenex!

1-Up getting a green nosebleed is a nod to the anime cliche that excited or aroused people get nosebleeds or "hanaji". The nosebleed's odd color may be a reference to the original Mortal Kombat port for the Super Nintendo, where the blood was recolored gray and passed off as "sweat".

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Under Construction. — It's dot com 17:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] rampage

[edit] rampage easter egg

At the end of the SBEmail rampage, in the easter egg when you click on "rampage," Strong Mad chasing the Cheat monster looking thing (sorry I never played Rampage before) and yelling "My panties!! My panties!!" is a reference to the SBEmail morning routine.

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:rampage. — It's dot com 16:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Main Page 6

[edit] Outta Sync?

Strong Bad's movements are not in sync. He says "Holy Crap!" way too early.

CLOSED. The consensus of this discussion has been used to revise the article. The discussion itself has been moved to Talk:Main Page 6. — It's dot com 16:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] best thing

[edit] Alternative vs. Hair Metal

Limozeen being kicked off the charts by an alternative band with a girl bassist references the death of hair metal in the early '90s, when bands like Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins (who actually had a girl bassist) were able to have success. (rewrite)

VERDICT: This fact was accepted after being rewritten. The discussion has been moved to Talk:best thing. — It's dot com 16:00, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] origins

[edit] Cut the Crusts

In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band Dokken, whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."

VERDICT: This fact has been accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:origins. -- tomstiff 14:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Teen Girl Squad Issue 8

[edit] Who's that Drummond? Redux

"Mr Drummond" refers to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show Diff'rent Strokes.

VERDICT: The second time around, this item was unanimously accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 8. — It's dot com 15:48, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Homestar Presents: Presents

[edit] Homestar's Clock

It is unclear how Homestar's clock could even differentiate between 10:00 am and 10:00 pm -- usually analog clocks have a light or indicator when it is night time, but Homestar's clock has none.

VERDICT: This item was accepted. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents. — It's dot com 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Charlie Brown

The view of the outside of the house (panelling and steps) is very similar to Charlie Brown's house, which may explain the departure from previous toons.

CLOSED: This information is correct, but the consensus is to note it on Homestar's House, which it already is. — It's dot com 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Coach Z's disconnected reciever

Coach Z talking on an unplugged phone may be a reference to the film The Waterboy. There's a scene in which Coach Klein (Henry Winkler) talks to "grandma" on a phone and as the camera pans down, it is revealed that the phone reciever is unplugged. --TDK

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:Homestar Presents: Presents. — It's dot com 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] A running gag?

The Ah-tpoo! noise Homestar makes when spitting into the bucket has become a bit of a running gag. It starts in Halloween Fairstival with the noise he makes when he tries to hold his breath. It resurfaces again in "Montage" with his "Hi-Ya!" during the Champeenship scene. He performs another variation in "Radio" when he throws his highball glass at the radio. He exclaims "High-Ball!". (unsigned)

VERDICT: This item was accepted and moved. The discussion can be found at Talk:Homestar Runner. — It's dot com 15:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] animal

[edit] Just me being picky

The keyboard on the lappy is placed so high on the (toon)screen, that there is no way Strong Bad could have typed on it without it showing in the toon. (Needs rewording. Badly.)

VERDICT: This item was declined. The discussion has been moved to Talk:animal. — It's dot com 15:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fanglyfish

The Fanglyfish is Strongbad's interpertation of a real-world animal called the anglerfish. Apparently he's unaware that only lady anglerfish get to have the Christmas lights and lures.

VERDICT: This item was accepted with modifications. The discussion has been moved to Talk:animal. — It's dot com 15:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] virus

[edit] Drive letter

After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears. This is possible, but I doubt Strong Bad knows the right command.

VERDICT: This item was accepted with revisions. The discussion has been moved to Talk:virus. — It's dot com 14:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Compy's Reign

This email marks the end of the Compy's 78-email reign. What's interesting about this is that the Tandy was used by Strong Bad for only 40, and the Compy outlived it by almost twice that.

VERDICT: This item was rejected. The discussion has been moved to Talk:virus. — It's dot com 14:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stinkoman_20X6

[edit] More Levels

When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!".

CLOSED. This item is now closed because it is obsolete. The discussion can be found at Talk:Stinkoman_20X6_Walkthrough. — It's dot com 14:46, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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