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Holy crap!

From: lady...ing
Posted on: 01:53, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

• The phrase wasn't used until A Jumping Jack Contest, which was in an entirely different style and time period.
• personal favorites is not a true "way back" scene. It was after "Holy crap" was introduced in the newer styles.
• The overuse of "Holy Crap" is from an entirely different "back then" era. The Luau era, to be exact.

Arguments against:

• He did use it in the other "way back" scene from personal favorites.
• MLS is not an era, just one toon. Not just that, but It's the first toon with voice acting, so it's natural that Strong Bad's personality wouldn't be fully developed.
• They are simply parodying the fact that "back then" Strong Bad supposedly said the phrase a lot.
• As the fact stands (after crossing stuff out), it doesn't seem particularly noteworthy.

Additional comments:

• His "holy crap" overuse in the flashback would be accurate if it was showing something from "The Luau" era, when that phrase was overused.
• Exactly what constitutes the "Marshmallow's Last Stand era"?
  • It's not exactly an era, but rather a toon, because the style was never really used again, except to mock the old style. Any modern appearances of it are "parodies," methinks.
• Technically, neither "personal favourites" nor "lady...ing" are true "way back" scenes. They were both made long after the phrase was overused.
  • Yes, but they are still attempting to parody the MLS-style, which is pre-Holy Crap. Or perhaps, they may be parodying two different old styles at the same time, although they make it look like they are only parodying one.
• Isn't this email also pre-SB-kicking-The-Cheat? I think there's no reason to be pedantic about these things.
  • Kicking The Cheat is from after-MLS period, but it makes sense in context of the toon and only appears once. Holy crap, however, is placed in several out-of-context areas for no reason than just to overuse it.
    • But Homestar was the first to kick The Cheat in the first book. I think it should be a running gag.
• How 'bout remove the word "era"; there's no question that he doesn't use it that particular 'toon.
  • Seconded.. remove that word, it makes more sense. It may also be useful to note that he's saying 'Holy crap' a lot more in the flashback than he does nowadays, hence making it unusual.
    • NOTE: The word "era" has been crossed out from the fact. This is not being proposed as a full Revision because (1) it doesn't change the substance of the fact, and (2) it would be confusing given that the Accepts are currently leading. If anyone has a serious issue with this, leave a note here and we'll figure something else out.
• Things like the old characters page still use the MLS design.

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Ice Creme Fixation

From: lady...ing
Posted on: 16:40, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

• This is a valid and interesting fact that lets the reader know that Strong Bad likes ice cream. This fact was deleted with the comment "removed a 'this is the nth time' item ..." but just a few lines above that is the comments that this is the first time that we see a close-up of the floppy disk container.
• A statement, like at the end of kids' book, may seem insignificant at first. It's only when a second instance occurs that it becomes notable and interesting.
• This has the beginnings of a running gag (see link below).

Arguments against:

• The argument for says it all — it's a "this is the nth time" item (a "second"). The other item stated was a "first," which we usually acknowledge.
• This shouldn't be considered a running gag just yet. So far it's only two unrelated incidents. If he does it a third time...

Additional comments:

• When do we stop acknowledging events? The 2nd time? 3rd time? 17th time? The long-standing standard is that only 1st time events are acknowledged.
  • For something special: the 1st time; for something ordinary that is like one that was before it: 2nd time; something that was repeated a lot: consider an inside joke/running gag.
• If it were a running gag, it would be noted, because we note them whenever they appear.
• I think I have stumbled onto something. I did some more searching...admitedly because I was tired of getting my fun facts deleted all the time...and with the aid of the handy dandy search engine, I realize this already is a running gag. TBC must really like ice cream. Because I found more references, I am moving my own vote to decline. I need someone's help because I think this should get its own article an I don't know how to start one or where it should go.
  • Talk:Ice Cream — please join the discussion on whether this should be recognized as a full running gag.

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Anchorman Strong Bad?

From: lady...ing
Posted on: 15:50, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

• The Bros. Chaps have been known to make all kinds of crazy references to all kinds of things, why not a Will Ferrell movie?

Arguments against:

• Fantana's cologne is described by other people as more colorful things than just gasoline.
• The "reference" is too vague.

Additional comments:

• Even though Anchorman has been out for quite some time, it's still possible this is a reference to it.

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Broken Lappy Screen (Goofs)

From: lady...ing
Posted on: 16:30, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

• This also happened in bottom 10 and was mentioned there.

Arguments against:

Additional comments:

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Bubble Teas?

From: lady...ing
Posted on: 04:52, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

• Um... Bubbleties. Bubble teas. It's worth noting, if people hadn't heard of bubble tea.

Arguments against:

• "Real-World References" is supposed to be limited to "clear references," and this is certainly not that.
• Homestar was just mispronouncing Strong Bad's phrase (which was mispronounced in itself).
• If you need to ask if it is worth noting, it probably isn't.

Additional comments:

• If all "Real-World References" were just "clear references," this wiki would have a lot less info.

• If we've all done our jobs then it would have exactly the same amount of info. It's not a good idea to put sketchy info in just for the sake of having more info. Quality > Quantity.

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Suppleties

From: lady...ing
Posted on: 06:54, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

Arguments against:

• It's just Strong Bad mispronouncing "subtleties" with his old, bad accent.
• This doesn't make much sense in context.

Additional comments:

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