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-	== Lobbying for a page. ==	+	''It has been [[HRWiki talk:Main page redesign|suggested]] that the Main Page be redesigned. Feel free to use [[HRWiki:Main page redesign|its project page]] for proposed redesigns.''
-	We have a page for the [[Compy Inc.]] corporation. Why not Tandy? They made the [[Tandy 400]], the [[Tangerine Dreams]], the [[Monosodium Dreams]] and allgedgedly the "computer" from [[the facts]]. There may be more, I don't know off the top of my head. Anyway, they have made 3, 4 computers. Compy made 3 also, or 5 if you count the Grampy and the Roomivac. I say we make one. I would, but my thrill for H*R is low ever since the recent baby-break, and I'm not in the mood for dissapointment. So, before we make it, shall we decide if this page is needed BEFORE it is made? This would save trouble and probably boost morale.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 23:09, 31 January 2010 (UTC)	+	== sbemail templates ==
-	: The catch is that we don't know what the Tandy's company is called. (Strictly speaking, we don't know that Compy, Inc.'s name is Compy, Inc., AFAIK, but we know it's Compy, at least.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:36, 31 January 2010 (UTC)	+	:''See [[Talk:Strong Bad Email#sbemail templates|Talk:Strong Bad Email → sbemail templates]]''
-	:: In case it's been forgotten, Tandy was the actual computer company that made the TRS-80 computer, sold by Radio Shack back in the 1980s/90s. I know because I had one -- horribly primitive by today's standards, but a good starter computer for early users. See the Wikipedia article on "Tandy Corporation" for more on this. [[User:Wordmama|Wordmama]] 02:49, 2 February 2010 (UTC)	+
		+	== Trogday decor ==
-	== New Index page! ==	+	Does the '''Featured content of the day (or whenever)''' template automatically switch to different links on certain days? Such as linking to [[dragon]], [[Trogday '08]] and other things when the time comes? Or is that done manually? Because tomorrow is Trogday. - [[User:HoveringSombrero|HoveringSombrero]] ([[User talk:HoveringSombrero|talk]]) [[File:Shoulder shoomps.png|23px]]
		+	:It's not automatic, but as you can see (at the time of this writing), the decorations were indeed put up to coincide with Trogday. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:43, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
-	I feel this deserves a mention. TBC have updated the original "Watch Intro/Come on in" page with Homestar smiling and an extra "Shop our Store" Option.	+	== How many references do you need? ==
-	- [[Special:Contributions/209.184.113.183|209.184.113.183]] 14:41, 1 February 2010 (UTC) (Everybody! the Log-in forgetman)	+	How many references to a thing need to be on a page for the thing the page is about to become a real page? Just curious because my mock-up seinfeld page includes eight references to the titular show. The page on [[The Big Lebowski]] has the same amount of references... so do I just make a [[Seinfeld]] page now? ----[[User:Jeffjman|J∃ffJ]][[User_talk:Jeffjman|Ma]][[Special:Contributions/Jeffjman|n]][[File:jeffjsigchrismas.png|23px]] 20:13, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
-	:It's already been noted for a while.--{{User:Record307/sig}} 14:49, 1 February 2010 (UTC)	+	:done and done ----[[User:Jeffjman|J∃ffJ]][[User_talk:Jeffjman|Ma]][[Special:Contributions/Jeffjman|n]][[File:jeffjsigchrismas.png|23px]] 20:14, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
		+	::See our [[HRWiki:Inclusion guidelines|inclusion guidelines]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:02, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
-	== Fanstuff login ==	+	== Songs archive ==
-	The homestar fanstuff wiki is here, but i can't find my user! Can a mod PM me a message so i can get to login? - [[User:POM Z|POM Z]] 00:07, 2 February 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:Your fanstuff login is the same as the one here. They are no longer separate. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:35, 2 February 2010 (UTC)	+
-	== Fanstuff Wiki's return ==	+	Would it be OK if I created a subpage to my user page with a complete archive of every existing song in the Homestar universe? [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 22:28, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
		+	:I'm pretty sure we [[Songs|have that covered]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:18, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
		+	::Well, I was gonna add MP3 files with them, so people could download them and stuff. Is that still OK? [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 00:26, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
		+	:::No, that's not what the user space is for. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:43, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
-	I think that we should have some header of other message on the KB informing users of the return of the HRFWiki, since many people have probably stopped checking for it's return by now. (I mentioned this idea earlier as an anonymous editor.) {{User:Shine Sprite/sig}} 02:59, 2 February 2010 (UTC)	+	== dot dot dot ==
-	== Dangeresque ==	+	Why come whenever I try to link to [[lady…ing]] and [[Cheat Commandos…O's]], the link is broken? Is it because of those ellipses? {{--}} {{User:HoveringSombrero/sig}}
		+	:Sort of! "…" is different from "...", it's a single character rather than three periods. Try highlighting it and you can see. This is kind of like the difference between “curly quotes” and "straight quotes" - in both cases, the former is typically made via autocorrect in word processors or mobile keyboards, while the latter is preferred by the wiki. So while [[lady…ing]] and [[lady...ing]] may ''look'' the same, they are actually two different typed entries. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 22:17, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
		+	::I've added redirects to fix the issue. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig}} 23:06, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
		+	:::Thanks! {{--}} {{User:HoveringSombrero/sig}}
-	Why do the transcripts of the Dangeresque toons refer to the characters as their real names instead of their Dangeresque names? [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] 07:56, 2 February 2010 (UTC)	+	== Navigation sidebar - adding @StrongBadActual? ==
-	:This would be an excellent question to ask on a more specific talk page, probably [[Talk:Dangeresque (film series)]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:06, 2 February 2010 (UTC)	+
-	== Talkheader like Wikipedia? ==	+	[[Strong Bad Email]] has been in the sidebar for as long as I can remember, presumably because it was the most popular and most actively updated portion of the website. With the Twitter account handily outpacing both sbemails and "H*R.com updates" (not to mention the [[CGI Paper]] directing viewers to tweet rather than email), might it be worth adding it over there? I know I regularly find myself navigating to the [[@StrongBadActual]] page(s) to fill out "Fast Forward" sections of pages or to find dates when an item or project was mentioned. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 20:16, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
		+	:I agree (and I'm not going to do the whole "Don't you think I agree" part, this isn't [[E-mail Birds]], but it is bird season.), and I fully support putting it there. It's a handy page and we've put a lot of work into cataloging every post made by strong bad on twitter, with fun facts to boot! So consider this my '''SUPPORT'''. ----[[User:Jeffjman|J∃ffJ]][[User_talk:Jeffjman|Ma]][[Special:Contributions/Jeffjman|n]][[File:jeffjsigchrismas.png|23px]] 22:52, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
		+	::I also '''SUPPORT'''. {{--}} {{User:HoveringSombrero/sig}}
		+	:::, So I '''SUPPORT''' this too, but I like having easy access to the Strong Bad Email page, considering I usually watch the sbemails by clicking on the external links. So, maybe we keep both? [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 22:28, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
		+	::::Maybe we link to it as <code><nowiki>[[@StrongBadActual Tweets 2023|Twitter]]</nowiki></code> and put it above [[Strong Bad Email]] and underneath [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent changes]]? {{--}} {{User:HoveringSombrero/sig}}
		+	::::: GREAT IDEA! I like it! [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 18:00, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
-	We should have a talkheader template [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Talkheader like wikipedia] so that it's the first thing people see on the page, which will give them insight to what to do, and to sign posts, and other useful information/links. How about that? {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 14:48, 3 February 2010 (UTC)	+	== Editing user pages ==
-	:I don't think that's really necessary. Our users tend to be more wiki-savvy than the average WP user. (Note that we do have the {{t|talk}} template for an unrelated issue.) &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:14, 8 February 2010 (UTC)	+
-	== Wiki continuance ==	+	Alright, so, I've been thinking. The block log has a lot of "user banned for editing userpages of other users". So, the main page, for example, has a system so only sysops can edit it. What if we add a system to all user pages that basically makes it impossible for anybody but the user to edit it? [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 22:52, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
		+	:The thing is, I feel sysops / admins / wiki bots should probably still be able to edit user pages. For example, an admin fixing a bug on the page or a bot auto-replacing a link. But I agree that no one else should edit other user pages. Or somehow make a system where users can choose who can edit the page. {{--}} {{User:HoveringSombrero/sig}} 18:10, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
		+	::We already have [[HRWiki:User space#Ownership and editing of pages in the user space|explicit guidelines]] on who can and should edit user pages.  If a user page is edited for anything other than a legitimate reason, the edit typically gets quickly reverted. No harm done.  Anyone that might be banned in relation to user page edits is most likely doing it in a disruptive manner.  In any case, the block logs mostly include bans for spamming.  There really is no compelling reason to add user page security settings or tools for this.  --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:10, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
-	Once H*R gets cancelled, will our Wiki have to go down with it? [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] 10:18, 8 February 2010 (UTC)	+	== Wiki availability ==
-	:Who said it was gonna get cancelled? If it ever does, I'm sure TBC will leave the site up. No the wiki is not "going down with it". This is a knowledge base, so if TBC stops making toons, we still have work to do.--{{User:Record307/sig}} 15:40, 8 February 2010 (UTC)	+
-	== E-mail ==	+	For about the past week, I haven't been able to access the HRWiki, and downforeveryoneorjustme.com consistently confirmed (and still does) that hrwiki.org is down. However, I see that plenty of edits have been made to the wiki in that time, so obviously it wasn't entirely down. Basically, I've been presented with a white screen that occasionally loaded the hills in the background and sometimes the Homestar logo in the top-left corner, and if I moved the mouse around the screen, it would recognize where links and drop-down menus were, but it wouldn't show me any text for the links and all. Any idea what may have happened/be happening? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 20:32, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
-	Has anyone tried contacting the Chapman Brothers about this long absence? I have at least three times, but I haven't gotten a response. [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] 09:54, 12 February 2010 (UTC)	+	:Hey Knights.  Usually, when a big update is released, wiki activity jumps exponentially and typically the wiki reaction times can slow down to a crawl.  Pages still load but they take forever and one must be patient.  Eventually that goes away as edits taper down.  However, for a site like "downforeveryoneorjustme", their timeout is likely far shorter than regular browsers when reporting if a site is down.  In your particular case it seems that not all website elements are loading and some may be timing out and not loading at all.  I'd typically expect that behavior during peak edit times. Hope this helps a tiny bit! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:05, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
		+	::At some point I did see pages seemingly load but remain blank unless I interacted with the tab in some way, though that could have been a browser issue, it never really prevented me from accessing the wiki, and I haven't been experiencing it for a while. I've also had some "unable to connect" errors because sometimes when loading the wiki, it attempts to load an https URL. Most of the time, though, especially after a new release, it's been just slowdowns. {{User:DEIDATVM/sig}} 21:09, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
-	:Call me crazy, but [[FeedBurner Page#Stuff - New Baby vs. Updates!|this may have something to do with it]]. --{{User:Color Printer/sig}} 15:41, 12 February 2010 (UTC)	+	=== Still Slow ===
-	::They had babies before and it didn't take them as long as this time, so it's only natural for people to wonder. Regarding the delays of last year's updates, my guess is they're probably out of ideas or something like that.--[[User:Cass from Germany|Cass from Germany]] 19:47, 12 February 2010 (UTC)	+	It seems that the wiki hasn't fully recovered from its slowdowns back in August.  In the last couple of months I've come across the Job Queue and [[MW:Manual:Job queue|this mediawiki page]] detailing what it is and how it's supposed to function. I get the impression that currently, all jobs on the wiki are running when a page is being requested. The page outlines a means by which the jobs can be run in the background (either via cron job or background process; I'd recommend the background process) and then the job run rate could be set to zero (so that pages aren't spending time running jobs while loading).  Is this something that is already in place or could this perhaps be implemented in order to improve overall performance even during busy periods? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 11:41, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
-	::: *Sigh*. We've been through this before on this very page. This is simply speculations and comments. We have no evidence either way, and we don't know whether they will cancel or not. Speculations, no need to discuss it here. They stated they're taking a Baby Break, leave it at that.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 22:44, 12 February 2010 (UTC)	+
-	== Unavailable ==	+	==glitch on the main pages ==
-	Why was the Wiki shut down for all of yesterday? [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] 04:59, 15 February 2010 (UTC)	+	Noticed a glitch on the main pages, done by holding the cursor on one of the buttons, and then moving away, and then moving your finger off the mouse. to see what this does and what I mean, refer to this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgM-NA0Rja4 [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 21:08, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
-	:My guess is that the server may have been busy or something. {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 05:26, 15 February 2010 (UTC)	+	:There's a whole page about this. [[Main Page Glitches]] {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig}} 21:21, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
-	== Telltale 4 Macs ==	+	== Why does the website still have the Halloween theme? ==
		+	Halloween ended 18 days ago, and so did October in general, so why does the website still have the Hallow's Eve theme? --{{User:Cy4nIsN0tB1u3/sig}} 04:33, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
		+	:Because we're still waiting for the annual Fan Costumes toon to close out the season, even if we have to wait [[Decomposing Pumpkins|days after Thanksgiving]]. Also, because the sysops in charge of changing the wiki settings are busy people with lives and tend to wait a while to get around to it. -- [[Special:Contributions/68.37.43.131|68.37.43.131]] 23:56, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
-	There is a pop up that says you should vote for SBCG4AP on macs! so far we're winning! {{User:Nihaho13/sig}} 14:57, 15 February 2010 (UTC)	+	==New Fan Stumes’!==
-	:Yeah we totally lost. -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 20:45, 31 March 2010 (UTC)	+	The 2023 Fan Stumes has been released! And not only that, but my costume from last year is the very first Strong Bad costume! That counts as a fun fact, right? We should probably note that like how we note when a wikian sent a email. [[User:TMBGLOVER|I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too!]] 17:12, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
-	== Time for Archive? ==	+	== Permafrosted logo? ==
-	I'm not the most active member here, but I know when a page is getting cluttered. I think it's time for another archive before TBC starts making toons again and we get more traffic. [[User:The Swedish Ace|The Swedish Ace]] 15:36, 15 February 2010 (UTC)	+	The Decemberween themed logo is still up, but December ended 11 days ago. The weirdest part in my opinion is that there's no d'ween themed colors despide icicles and Homestar's hat. Is there something we're waiting for, like a new not-Decemberween toon?
-	:I concur. The page can grow extremely quickly, especially after a new toon. I say it is time to clear the page. The page is already lag-creating for slower computers. I think is time to archive it.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 16:28, 15 February 2010 (UTC)	+	Yours truly,
-	::Archived. {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 16:50, 15 February 2010 (UTC)	+	The guy who confused Dobbs for Daubs. {{unsigned|206.110.189.60|11 January 2024 16:34 (UTC)}}
-	== How to pronounce? ==	+	:I'm not an admin, but I'm assuming the style is simply for the winter season. Even though the Christmas lights have been taken down, it's still a chilly and snowy time of year for {{w|March equinox|at least another month and a half}}. (P.S. Even if you don't have an account, please sign your posts with four tildes: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 17:34, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
-	How do you pronounce the wiki's name? Is it H '''R''' Wiki, '''Her'''-wiki, '''Hra'''-wiki? I've always wondered. Does it really matter either way?--[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 16:30, 15 February 2010 (UTC)	+	== Load times and potential solutions ==
-	:I pronounce it "Homestar Runner Wiki". Interestingly, the Chaps call Homestar Runner (the body of work, not the character) just Homestar, and so they call us the Homestar Wiki. To answer the question you actually asked, I'd say the first two letters separately if I had to pronounce the domain name. And of course it matters. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:11, 15 February 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::I call it Aitch-Ar-Wiki with people who know about it (or my obsession with it...), and Homestar Wiki with people who know what Homestar is, but not about this site. To complete strangers I just say I'm in a fan-site for a web cartoon :P. {{User:Elcool/sig}} 20:32, 15 February 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:::To those *really* in the know, I like to call it "ayeyeteeceeaitch ayar wiki." [[Special:Contributions/24.91.153.95|24.91.153.95]] 21:24, 15 February 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::::I usually just refer to it as "The Homestar Runner Wiki", because I'm the type of guy who says stuff proper. [[User:SBE-mail Checker Dan|SBE-mail Checker Dan]] 21:14, 15 February 2010 (UTC)	+
-	== Username change ==	+	The wiki's been crawling along like something funny that crawls along for about a year now. This hasn't been much more than a minor inconvenience on my end, but it comes up pretty frequently on [https://www.reddit.com/r/HomestarRunner/ the Homestar subreddit], with a concerning number saying they haven't been able to access it at all. [https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/hrwiki.org downforeveryoneorjustme.com] consistently insists that the system is down. I don't know what the hosting situation is like, nor am I anything close to an expert on such things, so unfortunately I can't diagnose the issue... But, [[DNA Evidence|after <s>extensive</s> investigation]], I'm ready to release my findings.
		+	*[[Talk:Main Page#Still Slow]] {{--}} A few months ago, [[User:Stux|Stux]] proposed a solution involving MediaWiki's [[mw:Manual:Job queue|job queue]]. Seems like something worth looking into.
		+	*[https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/host-a-website-with-high-availability/ Host a Website with High Availability] {{--}} The wiki's web host Linode features a guide on how to host a website with high availability. I can understand at most seven words of this, and I'm not sure how well it applies to wikis, but it might be helpful to someone. (They also have guides for [https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/security/ssl/ enabling HTTPS], which improves security... Maybe performance too, but I've heard mixed things about that.)
		+	*[[Special:Version]] {{--}} The wiki is currently powered by MediaWiki 1.15, which released in 2011. Later versions have added collapsible elements, citation features, slideshow galleries, an optional visual editor interface, the ability to rename categories, and most relevant to this particular discussion, [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader improved performance]. The current stable release is 1.41.
		+	*[[HRWiki:Donations]] {{--}} I just discovered that [[HRWiki:2011 Server Move|the wiki moved servers in 2011]] to cut back on expenses, which [[HRWiki talk:2011 Server Move#Slowness|apparently resulted in slower load times]] (at least initially, while settings were still being optimized). According to [[Special:Ledger]], there haven't been any donations since then (additionally, it still lists FellowSites hosting dues instead of the new host). I've seen multiple people offering to donate if they could, so if the more recent slowness is once again a financial issue, it might help to [https://www.paypal.com/us/cshelp/article/ts2067 get the donation links working again].
		+	*{{p|l=http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AListUsers&group=developer Special:ListUsers&group=developer}} {{--}} I have no way of knowing how actively people have been working on maintaining backend stuff, but I can see that of the six developers, only [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] and [[User:Tom|Tom]] have been editing consistently since 2016. I realize I'm asking quite a lot of two people at most, and I really don't want to be too demanding... so I can't help but wonder if my suggestions might seem more reasonable if there were more people responsible for backend maintenance. I'm not qualified for that sort of thing, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were active users with MediaWiki and/or web development experience. As much as I want this wiki to be accessible to more people, I really don't want anyone losing sleep over it.
		+	Anyway, sorry I can't offer more help than this, but I hope someone finds this stuff useful (and that I didn't get anything terribly wrong)! {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig}} 01:06, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
		+	:Out of curiosity, I decided to use [[Special:Statistics]] and the WayBack Machine to calculate roughly how many people have been affected by the slow load times. After comparing the last seven months (from around the start of the slowdowns to now) to the seven months prior, I found that the average number of edits per day has decreased from 22 to 14, and the average number of active users has dropped from 27 to 17. That's a 37% decrease in ''both'' areas, leading me to believe they are linked by a common cause...
		+	:Unfortunately I couldn't figure out if that percentage corresponded to anything specific, like "37% of people use this certain type of Internet connection"... That information would tell me which people are having problems accessing the wiki, and from there I might be able to research a potential solution, assuming any of that works the way I think it does. Maybe I'll do an off-site poll somewhere, but I'd need to know what information would be most pertinent to ask... Would that be helpful at all? {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig}} 05:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
-	I wish there was a way to change my user name, is there a way?--{{User:Wasd98/sig}} 05:11, 18 February 2010 (UTC)	+	Wait a minute, it seems fine now. What happened? {{unsigned|71.195.40.33|08:25, November 15, 2024 (UTC)}}
-	:You can put in a request for a name change [[HRWiki:Changing username|here]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:13, 18 February 2010 (UTC)	+
-	== Sbemail page update? ==	+	== Availability of the wiki over https ==
-	I was going through some old sbemails and found that a sticky note was put on the Compe saying "buy sbemails on dvd!" When clicked, it links to the store's sbemail section. Has anyone else reported this? [[User:SuperLuigi|SuperLuigi]] 18:06, 26 February 2010 (UTC)	+	Are there any plans to upgrade the wiki from http to https?
-	:I'm pretty sure it's on the Strong Bad Email page already. {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 19:56, 26 February 2010 (UTC)	+	--{{User:UN_TACO/sig}} 00:36, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
-	::More specifically, the [[Store]] page.--{{User:Record307/sig}} 00:10, 1 March 2010 (UTC)	+
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-	== Obama's Homestar Plan ==	+
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-	http://wsbradio.com/localnews/2010/03/obama-announcing-homestar-plan.html	+
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-	That doesn't mean Homestar Runner. It means something diffrent. FTW :S --[[User:POM Z|POM Z]] 21:13, 2 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-	: Yeah, it's a funny coincidence, especially since he's headed to [[Georgia]], but has nothing to do with the Runner. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:15, 2 March 2010 (UTC)	+
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-	== PlayStation Article? ==	+
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-	Just wondering if there is enough refs to SONY or PlayStation to make a SONY/PlayStation article. If so, I can go search for an image that you can use for it. (*cough* I'm just trying to get around the limits on how many images I can have, lol.) {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 17:08, 3 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:Then do what we usually do - Dig up references, make an article, format, categorize, upload, etc.. See if it holds up. {{User:Elcool/sig}} 06:38, 4 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::Then I'm out then. I'm no good at making articles stay. Tried it with OvBB on Wikipedia.org, it got deleted because the software was abandoned. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 08:32, 4 March 2010 (UTC)	+
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-	== Edit shortage ==	+
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-	Lately, mostly because of the lack of updates, this Wiki has become a wasteland. For the past couple of days, there have been less than 50 edits a day. What can we do to get more edits? [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] 21:37, 4 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:Nothing. Nor is there any *reason* do. Homestar Runner has been in a lull for the last few months, and without any significant new site content, there's very little we *can* do that we aren't doing already. -{{User:YK/sig}} 22:01, 4 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::As for wiki edits, there's no reason whatsoever why there needs to be a high edit count. We're not AIMING for more edits. Edits are not and end in and of themselves, but a by-product of us documenting the homestar universe. If there's nothing to document, there's no reason to edit. The alternative is creating an abundance of unnecessary pages such as [[Flashlights]] for the sole sake of making edits. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:23, 4 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:::Moreover, if there's one thing we *could* be doing in such lulls, it's reaching consensus on the dozen or so pages pending deletion, many of which have been untouched in months, and deciding as a community just what makes a good page. (For instance, do we *really* need dozens of pages that do nothing but list every single time a common item pops up in a toon, often without even mentioning *where* in the toon it *appears*, what it's used *for*, and *why* it's even worth mentioning, period? But that's another issue entirely.) -{{User:YK/sig}} 01:21, 5 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::::YK is right. When there are a lot of updates I can understand how some discussions take longer because everyone is busy with new pages, updating articles, transcribing and such. What we SHOULD be doing is discussing [[:Category:Articles for Discussion|TBD articles]]. I half blame the management for that (and I'm part of that management) for no encouraging more wiki activity. We can repeat "baby break" 'till we're blue in the face, but ''there are'' things to do on the wiki. I really '''''really''''' wish I had more time on my hands to do more substantial edits these days, but college is really my top-most priority these days (And people know that when I get a break I go over all the maintenance stuff and clean what I can).	+
-	::::What I '''propose''' is putting a message on the main page, or the recent change, asking people to give their opinions of ongoing discussions. That will help us reach consensus on old pages and will create interest and activity in the wiki. {{User:Elcool/sig}} 08:31, 5 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:::::By the way, if you need help finding unresolved issues, go [[HRW:OD|here]]. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 16:09, 5 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	== Admin ==	+
-		+
-	It's been three years since we last had a new admin. Could we please have some more admins? [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] 07:22, 10 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:What for? We run fine with the ones we have. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 07:34, 10 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::I have to agree, "If it works, don't fix it!" {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 13:56, 10 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	== Dub ==	+
-		+
-	Have any Homestar Runner cartoons been dubbed into other languages? [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] 09:35, 16 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:Not officially, though you may find something on youtube or something. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 09:38, 16 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	== Autocomplete and spell check ==	+
-		+
-	Is there a way to implement Wikipedia's search features? Like autocompleting possible search results while you type, and suggesting correct spelling if you misspelled your search term? If so, do we plan to make an update with those features? {{User:Elcool/sig}} 22:49, 16 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:I think our wiki's too small to make that thing necessary. Also, I personally just hate that autocomplete feature, but that's not really here nor there. Make sure there's a way to surpress it if you do, though. Ugh. I like my dropdown just fine. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:59, 17 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::Well, I use it very frequently on any site that have it (Like Google and YouTube). And why write down long article names when you can with only one word? {{User:Elcool/sig}} 18:08, 17 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:::We'll be beginning an upgrade cycle relatively soon. I'll give it a look when we do. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:30, 17 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::::Firefox can spell check text boxes too, and not just textareas. Though, for non-english words and portmanteaus, this would be a problem. If you want to expand firefox to all fields, change '''layout.spellcheckDefault''' to 2 in about:config. I'm neutral on this, though it would be nice to have the "Did you mean?" thing. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 14:43, 24 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	==Block list==	+
-	I've noticed that the [[Special:Blocklist|block list]] is the same at the Fanstuff Wiki. Is this intentional? [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] [[User talk:RickTommy|talk]] [[Image:slang.PNG|50px]] 23:02, 20 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:That's because the databases for the users and blocks are shared. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:15, 20 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	== Speculation? ==	+
-	I commented on a discussion and someone said that my thing was "just speculation". Is there a definition on this wiki for "speculation"? I'm confused with the whole thing... [[User:doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 22 March 2010	+
-	:Speculation has to do with looking into things with no factual basis; talking about what things ''could be'' instead of what things ''are''. This wiki doesn't document speculation because it cannot be proven true. However, we do have a [http://forum.hrwiki.org/ forum] for open discussion where speculation is welcome. You have to create a separate account over there. as for [http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Sick_Day&diff=next&oldid=696377 the discussion in question], there is no way to prove what kind of disease any of them have, and any guesses as to what disease it could be can't be proven true. hope this helps {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 18:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	I just wanted to add something. Do you think we should do a page on speculation for all the users? Just looking at numerous discussions, I noticed that about 15% of them were speculation. Is that a big enough issue to address? Should we wait and see if there is more? [[User:doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 30 March 2010	+
-		+
-	:Think about that idea - Would you have liked to read an encyclopedia with speculation? Say you read about some president, and at the end of the article someone speculates that he thinks the president did some nasty things but doesn't give any evidence. That's not a very good encyclopedia, if you ask me. Any knowledge you gain becomes immediately questionable.	+
-	:But since we know that people in their nature ''like'' to read about others' opinions, the set up The Forum so you can speculate, talk, discuss, jibber, jabber, and say what you want about Homestar. {{User:Elcool/sig}} 04:58, 31 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::So, yes? No? It doesn't matter if there is a forum, people still put speculation on the pages and in the discussions. I'm an amateur, so the page would come out... well... bad. If anyone can help out that would be great. [[User:doctorwho295|doctorwho295]] 2 April 2010	+
-	:::Just because we constantly get speculation does not mean we should make an article for it. Your house gets dirty all the time, right? That doesn't mean you should make a room for dirt to keep it in; it means you should clean the whole place. Unreasonable speculation doesn't belong on any article in our wiki, no matter what, just like dirt doesn't belong in your house. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:45, 3 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	== What happened? ==	+
-		+
-	To The Brothers Chaps? They haven't updated the website in a long time.	+
-		+
-	Cheers	+
-	[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 08:50, 24 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:It's known to happen from time to time, some times for a whole year almost. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 13:46, 24 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::[citation needed] -[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]]	+
-	:::Some say it's because of a baby break. But it's obviously for another reason, given that this break is longer than the previous baby breaks. And speaking of which... [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] [[User talk:RickTommy|talk]] [[Image:slang.PNG|50px]] 00:35, 30 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-	Further discussion should take place on the forum. Bet you guys already knew that ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:26, 30 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	==NBVU==	+
-	Why was the Baby Break announcement removed from the forum? [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] [[User talk:RickTommy|talk]] [[Image:slang.PNG|50px]] 00:35, 30 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:It wasn't deleted. [[Forum:15966|See?]] &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:56, 30 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::1. Then why was it removed from the top of the forum? 2. Can it be deleted now that they are well and truly back? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 06:24, 1 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	== "Features" section on [[Main Page]] ==	+
-		+
-	Don't you think the [[YouTube]] channel has become important enough to be placed here, as a link to the article on YouTube? [[User:Flicky1991|Flicky1991]] 15:56, 31 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:Possibly. But that'd be an excellent thing to suggest on the [[HRWiki:Featured Article Selection]] page. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 16:59, 31 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::I think he means in the section immediately under "Browse the knowledge base". &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:40, 31 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:::Oh oh OOOOH. That makes sense. My bad, I apologize. I agree with that, it should be up there. Not that ''I'' can add it there, but if you agree, dot com. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 17:49, 31 March 2010 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	== Signature ==	+
-		+
-	How do I have one of those "changey" sigs? I've created [[User:RickTommy/sig]], but no matter what I do, I just can't get my signature to match that one.	+
-	:Unintended consequences: I'm trying to upload the FeedBurner picture for the page, and I'm getting an error saying that I don't have permission to create new pages.  Is this due to the randomization of sigs? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 05:39, 1 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::RickTommy: You have to put <code><nowiki>{{User:Your username/sig}}</nowiki></code> in your [[Special:Preferences|preferences]]. I fixed it for you. Wbwolf: I'll upload the picture. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:43, 1 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	== APRIL FOOLS!! ==	+
-		+
-	Okay, at first I only saw that the wiki's name had changed in the page title, and I was thinking, "Most. Subtle. April Fools' joke. Ever." Then I came back after someone on the forum said there was vandalism on the [[Main Page]], and I gotta admit, this isn't one of the better jokes the Mods have pulled off. I liked the scrambled pages better. I expect more. :P --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:46, 1 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:It's not the only thing we tried, but we couldn't get our first choice to work. Let's just say I need to study up on Google's API and maybe I'll be ready for next year. Besides, who says that's ''the'' gag? Anydangway, Mike and I had a pretty good laugh about the dumb animal characters nickname the other day, so I figured why not. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:21, 1 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	Thank You for suning it up --[[Special:Contributions/114.77.52.233|114.77.52.233]] 06:20, 1 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:I'm curious as to whether Jay actually changed his sig to The Human Wedgie, seeing how I myself certainly did not change mine to Meatball Face Butt. (And now I see why you specified that it might not be ''the'' gag) --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 06:27, 1 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::Super Martyo Brother: I got the same one, and i hope you are less offended by it than i am. Seeing as though [[User:The Knights Who Say Ni|I'm too <s>offended</s> ''negatively surprised'' to use the four tildes here]] 06:32, 1 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:::It's not nearly as offensive as that picture you put on your user page. (All of the sigs are from the <s>Homestar Runner</s> Dumb Animal Character body of work, after all.) But if you're that upset about it, I'll randomly generate another one for you. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:38, 1 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::::(replying to prancibald) better. though it's still not what i would have preferred, i don't think anybody's is, so i'm not going to complain. (since then) wait, did it just change again while i was trying to edit? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 06:44, 1 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:::::I forgot that the function is tied to the specific user, and so I had to edit out my name. When I did, it automatically changed again. Okay, everybody, if you change your sig, you might get stuck with a silly one, so ''watch out''. Or, who knows, you might get a cool one. Either way, it's just for one day, so ''no more complaints.'' &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:57, 1 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::::::DC: wow, sorry i got that out of you just three hours into the day. normally it takes more like 23 or 24, and i think i would have preferred it that way. it makes it more fun to act like nothing is out of the ordinary just because it's the 91<sup><u>st</u></sup> day of the year. like last year, when i came by at the end of the day, i was trying to appear oblivious to the particular day. i do apologize for putting you through all that changing my signature. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 07:13, 1 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:::::::I'm not upset. If it helps, read the emphasized portions of what I wrote using T-Rex's voice from [http://qwantz.com qwantz.com]. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:19, 1 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::::::::Happy April Fools day IDC {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 10:31, 1 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:::::::::Happy April Fools {{User:The thing/sig}} 12:22, 1 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::::::::::Happy April Fools' Day Dumb Animal Characters Wiki! {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 16:18, 1 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:::::::::::How many april fools jokes are there (officially) on the wiki right now? {{User:The thing/sig}} 18:23, 1 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::::::::::::Well, dang. I was gonna edit my sig to match my little April Fool's prank, but... it seems that this year's *main* April Fool's joke interferes with that. Oh well. Heh. -{{User:YK/sig}} 18:36, 1 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:::::::::::::Did your April Fool's Day signature not turn out like you wanted it to? Head on over to the [[HRWiki:Sandbox|Sandbox]] to post what you WANTED your signature to appear as! But hurry! The offer ends soon! {{User:Shine Sprite/sig}} 03:29, 2 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	== Database ==	+
-		+
-	Why was the database locked? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 22:07, 2 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:Maintenance. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:28, 2 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	== How many personal images do I have? ==	+
-		+
-	Can someone tell me how many I have and how many more I can have? {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 23:11, 2 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:According to [[Special:Personalimages#C|Special:Personalimages]], you're using one and have abandoned two. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:57, 3 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	== Mike was in the Ghostbusters? ==	+
-		+
-	If your read the credits to Ghostbusters 2, you'll find the name Micheal Chapman. Is this [[Mike Chapman|Mike]]? --[[Special:Contributions/66.205.143.105|66.205.143.105]] 23:17, 2 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:There's a highly unlikely chance that is him. But, I've encountered many Mike Chapmans so I'm not sure.--{{User:Record307/sig}} 00:46, 3 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::[[IMDb:nm0152469|Michael Chapman]] was the cinematographer on ''Ghostbusters II''. Our [[IMDb:nm1053635|Mike]] would have been about 14 or 15 when it was produced. I don't think they let 15-year-olds have major production roles on films, Maeby Fünke notwithstanding. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:49, 3 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	== Real life Strong Badia ==	+
-	I was messing around with photoshop and I made this.	+
-	<br> http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6656/ffffc.jpg	+
-	<br> [[User:Inunaota4a|Inunaota4a]] 03:45, 3 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:Please upload fan-made pictures on the {{p|l=http://forum.hrwiki.org/ forum}} and/or [[HRFWiki:|fanstuff wiki]].--{{User:Record307/sig}} 03:49, 3 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::Or even send it to the Chaps. Maybe they'd feature it. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:53, 3 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	== Xeriouxly Forxe ==	+
-		+
-	Now that April Fool's is over, can we replace the Wiki Main Page's picture with one that shows the redesigned characters? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 21:21, 3 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:Nah, I bet that there's still a lot of people who haven't seen it yet. We don't want to spoil the surprise. And, even if every single Homestar fan has seen it, I don't really see a reason to change it. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 21:34, 3 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	== The Other Other wiki ==	+
-		+
-	Seeing how we seem to rely on TVTropes more (in fact, I found the website through the HRWiki) should we have a new link for it, like the Wikipedia and Youtube? I'm thinking it should be the trademark T with a lampshade on it (lampshade hanging?). Does that sound like a good idea? I know of at least three pages that link there, all made within the year. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] [[User talk:Jellote|wuz]] [[Special:Contributions/Jellote|here]] 14:35, 4 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:I got the logo, but I'm not sure it is formatted correctly. Can we use it at all, or should we redo it?--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] [[User talk:Jellote|wuz]] [[Special:Contributions/Jellote|here]] 22:47, 5 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	[[file:trope logo.png|thumb|We'll ruin your life.]]	+
-	::Hmmm... Since the link to TvTropes almost always appear in running text, I don't think a logo next to it would look good. Try to imagine how all the Fun Facts would look if every link had a W Wikipedia logo next to it. The text would be unreadable. Favicons next to links are almost always used for bulleted links like Watch. But I ''do'' support adding TvTropes to the list of sites we use this sort of wikilinks. {{User:Elcool/sig}} 05:43, 6 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:::[[TVTropes:HomestarRunner|Done]]. [[Wikipedia:PmWiki|PmWiki]] is set up kinda screwy, so the interwiki link won't work in all cases. If there's a lot of such cases I can set it up it a different but less streamlined way. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:02, 6 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::::Tvtropes.org has been down for me (and it was down for [http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ downforeveryoneorjustme]) for several hours, since yesterday. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 15:57, 6 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:::::Hm, that site says it's down, you say it's down... I'm getting it, though. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:47, 6 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::::::Its up, which is good news. So now all that's left is redoing the links.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] [[User talk:Jellote|wuz]] [[Special:Contributions/Jellote|here]] 19:34, 6 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:::::::And now it's under maintenence. Go figure. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 03:32, 7 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::::::::I think they are doing it on purpose just to ruin our life a little more ;). {{User:Elcool/sig}} 05:43, 7 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	== Dangereque 2? ==	+
-		+
-	Why isn't there a Dangeresque 2 game? I saw Dangeresque 1 and Dangeresque 3 but no Dangeresque 2. Is Dangeresque 2 somewhere I missed? I really like Dangeresque games. I played every series of Dangeresque except for Dangeresque 2.	+
-	: 1: Dangeresque 1 is not a game. It is a movie seen in sbemail 106. 2: Dangeresque 2 is featured in sbemail 80, stunt double. 3: The game you refered to is Dangeresque ROOMISODE 1. I suggest watching Strong Bad Email #106 to see the real D1. [[Special:Contributions/76.117.14.237|76.117.14.237]] 17:11, 9 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	== HRW:CRYSTAL? ==	+
-		+
-	WP:CRYSTAL is on Wikipedia, do we have one here on HRWiki? {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 21:06, 12 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:We don't have a specific policy page on the topic, but I'm sure we adhere to a similar standard. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:08, 12 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::I agree with ColdReactive. It would give us a reason for people to delete talk-page comments that talk about "Hey we should make a page about Dangeresque Roomiside 2 even though it hasn't been released yet!" Overall it's a good idea. [[User:Nova Scotia|Nova Scotia]] 21:12, 12 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:::There should be a separate delete template for that reason showing a crystalball like in Tales of the Macabre for an icon... Maybe have it saying, "The HRWiki is not a Crystal Ball, this page is currently pending deletion for this reason." Or maybe have a warning template with such an icon? {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 21:15, 12 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::::That could be a good template idea, but the problem is we might never even use it. [[User:Nova Scotia|Nova Scotia]] 21:17, 12 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:::::Wait, where are people making comments like you describe above? Where is a specific location that a policy or template such as this would be used? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:24, 12 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::::::Dot com, I've seen a few comments like that while I was just browsing as an IP. [[User:Nova Scotia|Nova Scotia]] 21:26, 12 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:::::::Right; I'm asking someone to point to one. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:32, 12 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::::::::It looks like such a thing would belong under [[HRWiki:What HRWiki is not]]. you can find a lot of places where some of the more experienced users tell people who have posted speculative comments to take it to the forum. [[Talk:Strong Sad#Is Strong Sad Dead?|Here]] [[Talk:Marshmallow's_Last_Stand#Tenthennial anniversary remake?|are]] [[Talk:Monkey_D#Interesting|a]] [[Talk:Marzipan#A Crush on Strong Bad?|few]]. I think that's what y'all are talking about anyway {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 21:49, 12 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:::::::::In that case, we already have stated guidelines, and we already deal with it by pointing people to the forum. I'm not sure what else can be or would need to be done. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:56, 12 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	== Why are the non-HR forums on the HRWiki forum locked? ==	+
-		+
-	http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewforum.php?f=12 - I can't make new topics, which I want to do. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 23:25, 14 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:The off-topic forums were locked over a year and a half ago in a restructuring of the forum. As far as I'm aware, there are no plans to reopen them at this point. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:30, 14 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::Then where should we converse off-topic/non-hr stuff? {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 00:47, 15 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:::Privately in PM, or on another website. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:33, 15 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	== Collapsible Table? ==	+
-		+
-	Just wondering, can I make collapsible tables on HRWiki? It would be nice for my news box element on my userpage. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 04:33, 15 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:You mean the news box that's against the [[HRWiki:User space#What should I avoid?|user space]] policy? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:38, 15 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::So you like to not discuss things that are not HR-specific? Then how do you guys pass the time on the site? {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 04:40, 15 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:::I didn't say that. I just don't discuss non-H*R stuff ''here''. Regardless, a news box that (1) doesn't have to do with Homestar Runner, (2) doesn't have to do with a user's Homestar Runner experience, (3) doesn't even reveal personal information about a user that is relevant to this site, and (4) is rather bloggish does not belong on a user page. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:46, 15 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::::Would be nice if we could discuss it on the forum, but oh well. Guess I'll go back to facebook then. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 04:50, 15 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:::::Yeah, we the admins consider it from time to time, but we're still put off by the idea of having to mod it. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:58, 15 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	::::::Could always get more mods that work for pencil shavings. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 05:50, 15 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:::::::Not really looking to do that either. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:56, 15 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	== Multiple Users For One Real Life person? ==	+
-		+
-	if someone can login to an old username, does that mean they can have another username? User Eggs tree lists that he has another account named Strong_Bad that apparently s/he can login to--and it is advertised prominently as a fanstuff account. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 00:56, 17 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:The user you mention {{p|l=http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=block&page=User:Stong_bad is}} {{p|l=http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/wiki/User:Eggs_tree?diff=73156&oldid=73111 mistaken}}. He seems to have simply [[HRFWiki:Special:Contributions/Eggs tree|not noticed yet]]. Users are not permitted to use two accounts at the same time, and although names at the knowledge base and fanstuff previously could be separate, they must now be the same because they are tied to one account. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:47, 17 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-		+
-	wait a minute here, YAY! YOU viewed my page! It's me! eggs tree!!! but, so you know, I always change my page a little bit...so click [[User:eggs tree|here]] to view my page...again!	+
-		+
-	== Wait what ==	+
-		+
-	Why does almost every edit in RC have <font color=red>!</font> next to them? Is it just me? {{User:Nova Scotia/sig}} 21:46, 18 April 2010 (UTC)	+
-	:It just means they havn't been patrolled. {{User:Movie magic man/sig}} 21:52, 18 April 2010 (UTC)	+

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Contents 1 sbemail templates 2 Trogday decor 3 How many references do you need? 4 Songs archive 5 dot dot dot 6 Navigation sidebar - adding @StrongBadActual? 7 Editing user pages 8 Wiki availability 8.1 Still Slow 9 glitch on the main pages 10 Why does the website still have the Halloween theme? 11 New Fan Stumes’! 12 Permafrosted logo? 13 Load times and potential solutions 14 Availability of the wiki over https

[edit] sbemail templates

See Talk:Strong Bad Email → sbemail templates

[edit] Trogday decor

Does the Featured content of the day (or whenever) template automatically switch to different links on certain days? Such as linking to dragon, Trogday '08 and other things when the time comes? Or is that done manually? Because tomorrow is Trogday. - HoveringSombrero (talk)

It's not automatic, but as you can see (at the time of this writing), the decorations were indeed put up to coincide with Trogday. — It's dot com 01:43, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

[edit] How many references do you need?

How many references to a thing need to be on a page for the thing the page is about to become a real page? Just curious because my mock-up seinfeld page includes eight references to the titular show. The page on The Big Lebowski has the same amount of references... so do I just make a Seinfeld page now? ----J∃ffJMan 20:13, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

done and done ----J∃ffJMan 20:14, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

See our inclusion guidelines. — It's dot com 21:02, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

[edit] Songs archive

Would it be OK if I created a subpage to my user page with a complete archive of every existing song in the Homestar universe? I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 22:28, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure we have that covered. — It's dot com 23:18, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Well, I was gonna add MP3 files with them, so people could download them and stuff. Is that still OK? I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 00:26, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

No, that's not what the user space is for. — It's dot com 00:43, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

[edit] dot dot dot

Why come whenever I try to link to lady…ing and Cheat Commandos…O's, the link is broken? Is it because of those ellipses? — HoveringSombrero (talk)

Sort of! "…" is different from "...", it's a single character rather than three periods. Try highlighting it and you can see. This is kind of like the difference between “curly quotes” and "straight quotes" - in both cases, the former is typically made via autocorrect in word processors or mobile keyboards, while the latter is preferred by the wiki. So while lady…ing and lady...ing may look the same, they are actually two different typed entries. -- Bleu Ninja 22:17, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

I've added redirects to fix the issue. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 23:06, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! — HoveringSombrero (talk)

[edit] Navigation sidebar - adding @StrongBadActual?

Strong Bad Email has been in the sidebar for as long as I can remember, presumably because it was the most popular and most actively updated portion of the website. With the Twitter account handily outpacing both sbemails and "H*R.com updates" (not to mention the CGI Paper directing viewers to tweet rather than email), might it be worth adding it over there? I know I regularly find myself navigating to the @StrongBadActual page(s) to fill out "Fast Forward" sections of pages or to find dates when an item or project was mentioned. -- Bleu Ninja 20:16, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

I agree (and I'm not going to do the whole "Don't you think I agree" part, this isn't E-mail Birds, but it is bird season.), and I fully support putting it there. It's a handy page and we've put a lot of work into cataloging every post made by strong bad on twitter, with fun facts to boot! So consider this my SUPPORT. ----J∃ffJMan 22:52, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

I also SUPPORT. — HoveringSombrero (talk)

, So I SUPPORT this too, but I like having easy access to the Strong Bad Email page, considering I usually watch the sbemails by clicking on the external links. So, maybe we keep both? I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 22:28, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Maybe we link to it as [[@StrongBadActual Tweets 2023|Twitter]] and put it above Strong Bad Email and underneath Recent changes? — HoveringSombrero (talk)

GREAT IDEA! I like it! I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 18:00, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

[edit] Editing user pages

Alright, so, I've been thinking. The block log has a lot of "user banned for editing userpages of other users". So, the main page, for example, has a system so only sysops can edit it. What if we add a system to all user pages that basically makes it impossible for anybody but the user to edit it? I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 22:52, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

The thing is, I feel sysops / admins / wiki bots should probably still be able to edit user pages. For example, an admin fixing a bug on the page or a bot auto-replacing a link. But I agree that no one else should edit other user pages. Or somehow make a system where users can choose who can edit the page. — HoveringSombrero (talk) 18:10, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

We already have explicit guidelines on who can and should edit user pages. If a user page is edited for anything other than a legitimate reason, the edit typically gets quickly reverted. No harm done. Anyone that might be banned in relation to user page edits is most likely doing it in a disruptive manner. In any case, the block logs mostly include bans for spamming. There really is no compelling reason to add user page security settings or tools for this. --Stux 21:10, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

[edit] Wiki availability

For about the past week, I haven't been able to access the HRWiki, and downforeveryoneorjustme.com consistently confirmed (and still does) that hrwiki.org is down. However, I see that plenty of edits have been made to the wiki in that time, so obviously it wasn't entirely down. Basically, I've been presented with a white screen that occasionally loaded the hills in the background and sometimes the Homestar logo in the top-left corner, and if I moved the mouse around the screen, it would recognize where links and drop-down menus were, but it wouldn't show me any text for the links and all. Any idea what may have happened/be happening? The Knights Who Say Ni 20:32, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Hey Knights. Usually, when a big update is released, wiki activity jumps exponentially and typically the wiki reaction times can slow down to a crawl. Pages still load but they take forever and one must be patient. Eventually that goes away as edits taper down. However, for a site like "downforeveryoneorjustme", their timeout is likely far shorter than regular browsers when reporting if a site is down. In your particular case it seems that not all website elements are loading and some may be timing out and not loading at all. I'd typically expect that behavior during peak edit times. Hope this helps a tiny bit! --Stux 06:05, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

At some point I did see pages seemingly load but remain blank unless I interacted with the tab in some way, though that could have been a browser issue, it never really prevented me from accessing the wiki, and I haven't been experiencing it for a while. I've also had some "unable to connect" errors because sometimes when loading the wiki, it attempts to load an https URL. Most of the time, though, especially after a new release, it's been just slowdowns. DEI DAT VSA^┌_{datvsa center}\^{super contra}_┘ 21:09, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

[edit] Still Slow

It seems that the wiki hasn't fully recovered from its slowdowns back in August. In the last couple of months I've come across the Job Queue and this mediawiki page detailing what it is and how it's supposed to function. I get the impression that currently, all jobs on the wiki are running when a page is being requested. The page outlines a means by which the jobs can be run in the background (either via cron job or background process; I'd recommend the background process) and then the job run rate could be set to zero (so that pages aren't spending time running jobs while loading). Is this something that is already in place or could this perhaps be implemented in order to improve overall performance even during busy periods? --Stux 11:41, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

[edit] glitch on the main pages

Noticed a glitch on the main pages, done by holding the cursor on one of the buttons, and then moving away, and then moving your finger off the mouse. to see what this does and what I mean, refer to this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgM-NA0Rja4 I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 21:08, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

There's a whole page about this. Main Page Glitches Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 21:21, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

[edit] Why does the website still have the Halloween theme?

Halloween ended 18 days ago, and so did October in general, so why does the website still have the Hallow's Eve theme? --Cy4nIsN0tB1u3 04:33, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Because we're still waiting for the annual Fan Costumes toon to close out the season, even if we have to wait days after Thanksgiving. Also, because the sysops in charge of changing the wiki settings are busy people with lives and tend to wait a while to get around to it. -- 68.37.43.131 23:56, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

[edit] New Fan Stumes’!

The 2023 Fan Stumes has been released! And not only that, but my costume from last year is the very first Strong Bad costume! That counts as a fun fact, right? We should probably note that like how we note when a wikian sent a email. I wanna be the TMBGLOVER too! 17:12, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

[edit] Permafrosted logo?

The Decemberween themed logo is still up, but December ended 11 days ago. The weirdest part in my opinion is that there's no d'ween themed colors despide icicles and Homestar's hat. Is there something we're waiting for, like a new not-Decemberween toon? Yours truly, The guy who confused Dobbs for Daubs. — 206.110.189.60 (Talk | contribs) 11 January 2024 16:34 (UTC) (left unsigned)

I'm not an admin, but I'm assuming the style is simply for the winter season. Even though the Christmas lights have been taken down, it's still a chilly and snowy time of year for at least another month and a half. (P.S. Even if you don't have an account, please sign your posts with four tildes: ~~~~) -- Bleu Ninja 17:34, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

[edit] Load times and potential solutions

The wiki's been crawling along like something funny that crawls along for about a year now. This hasn't been much more than a minor inconvenience on my end, but it comes up pretty frequently on the Homestar subreddit, with a concerning number saying they haven't been able to access it at all. downforeveryoneorjustme.com consistently insists that the system is down. I don't know what the hosting situation is like, nor am I anything close to an expert on such things, so unfortunately I can't diagnose the issue... But, after extensive investigation, I'm ready to release my findings.

• Talk:Main Page#Still Slow — A few months ago, Stux proposed a solution involving MediaWiki's job queue. Seems like something worth looking into.
• Host a Website with High Availability — The wiki's web host Linode features a guide on how to host a website with high availability. I can understand at most seven words of this, and I'm not sure how well it applies to wikis, but it might be helpful to someone. (They also have guides for enabling HTTPS, which improves security... Maybe performance too, but I've heard mixed things about that.)
• Special:Version — The wiki is currently powered by MediaWiki 1.15, which released in 2011. Later versions have added collapsible elements, citation features, slideshow galleries, an optional visual editor interface, the ability to rename categories, and most relevant to this particular discussion, improved performance. The current stable release is 1.41.
• HRWiki:Donations — I just discovered that the wiki moved servers in 2011 to cut back on expenses, which apparently resulted in slower load times (at least initially, while settings were still being optimized). According to Special:Ledger, there haven't been any donations since then (additionally, it still lists FellowSites hosting dues instead of the new host). I've seen multiple people offering to donate if they could, so if the more recent slowness is once again a financial issue, it might help to get the donation links working again.
• Special:ListUsers&group=developer — I have no way of knowing how actively people have been working on maintaining backend stuff, but I can see that of the six developers, only It's dot com and Tom have been editing consistently since 2016. I realize I'm asking quite a lot of two people at most, and I really don't want to be too demanding... so I can't help but wonder if my suggestions might seem more reasonable if there were more people responsible for backend maintenance. I'm not qualified for that sort of thing, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were active users with MediaWiki and/or web development experience. As much as I want this wiki to be accessible to more people, I really don't want anyone losing sleep over it.

Anyway, sorry I can't offer more help than this, but I hope someone finds this stuff useful (and that I didn't get anything terribly wrong)! Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 01:06, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, I decided to use Special:Statistics and the WayBack Machine to calculate roughly how many people have been affected by the slow load times. After comparing the last seven months (from around the start of the slowdowns to now) to the seven months prior, I found that the average number of edits per day has decreased from 22 to 14, and the average number of active users has dropped from 27 to 17. That's a 37% decrease in both areas, leading me to believe they are linked by a common cause...

Unfortunately I couldn't figure out if that percentage corresponded to anything specific, like "37% of people use this certain type of Internet connection"... That information would tell me which people are having problems accessing the wiki, and from there I might be able to research a potential solution, assuming any of that works the way I think it does. Maybe I'll do an off-site poll somewhere, but I'd need to know what information would be most pertinent to ask... Would that be helpful at all? Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 05:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Wait a minute, it seems fine now. What happened? — 71.195.40.33 (Talk | contribs) 08:25, November 15, 2024 (UTC) (left unsigned)

[edit] Availability of the wiki over https

Are there any plans to upgrade the wiki from http to https? --UN TACO 00:36, 22 May 2024 (UTC)