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[edit] DVD Contents

I elected to use "DVD Contents" instead of "External Links". Whatcha think? -- AgentSeethroo 13:13, 6 Aug 2004 (MST)

Looks good to me. -- Tom 13:48, 6 Aug 2004 (MST)

[edit] Transcribing

Woah. What the dang crap! Is there a huge chunk missing from the Transcript, or is it just me?? -- AgentSeethroo 13:18, 6 Aug 2004 (MST)

Yeah, I think it was never done. I also think there is only one transcript, but there should be two or something. -- Tom 13:48, 6 Aug 2004 (MST)
There should be three. Old version, New version, and Commentary. Unless the new and old versions are the same...so...yeah. -- AgentSeethroo 13:50, 6 Aug 2004 (MST)
The old and new versions are decidedly different. --Ogog

I've done the New Version transcript as well as a few others, but the Commentary transcript is going to be really hard, since pausing the toon doesn't pause the commentary track when you need it to. Any idea as to how I can pause the commentary track so I can make transcribing this that much easier? --TheNintenGenius 16:24, 19 Sep 2004 (MST)

I suggest recording the commentary(onto a WAV file, onto a tape, whatever) so you can pause and rewind as you please. --Ogog

OK, I have a transcript for the New Version Commentary up now, but I know it's not 100% accurate (though it's probably at least 90% to 95% accurate), as there were some parts I couldn't quite figure out. If anybody could please help fix up any dialogue I got incorrect, I'd appreciate it quite a bit, as I worked about 2 or 3 hours on this. Thanks! --TheNintenGenius 13:24, 20 Sep 2004 (MST)

[edit] Need links

We need some links for the deleted scenes!-Anonymous

[edit] Closed STUFF

These were on the STUFF page and declined. If you wish to contest these, leave a note here, but don't allow it to be confused with any of the original votes.

[edit] The Subliminal Advertisement

In Coach Z's second 'Score Zone' illustration, the lines are clearly made to resemble a skull-and-crossbones.

  • Decline. That's the joke. --Upsilon
  • Decline. I think this is noted in the transcript. --TheNintenGenius 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. It's obvious to me, and probably most of the Internet-accessing English-speaking world. --oddtodd 00:55, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • Decline. If they "are clearly made" as you say they are then there is no need to point it out. --mikeaitch 14:08, 1 Dec 2004 (EST)
    • Decline. as the rule says "if it is obvious vote on it, if it is THAT obvious, delort it.--J to the sag
      • Second. It's... clearly so, yes, that's the idea. -- Mithent 13:41, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
  • I deleted this. I don't think anyone minds. --Tim333
  • That's not the subliminal advertising! This is: ScoreXZone And Duh, they look like a skull and cross bones! Furthermore... DECLINED-- Bonkava!

[edit] David Attenborough?

In the transcirpt it say that the Discovery Network host sounds like David Attenborough, this might just be me, but doesn't it sound more like Steve Irwin or am I just crazy?

It might sound more like David Attenborough (But I don't know, I've never heard him before) but I strongly believe that it's supposed to sound like ol' Stevie. BTW, I fixed your typo.

Well, that sure is a YOUNG Steve Irwin! Jibblejibblejibble 19:14, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] LOOM

I just noticed that the Yello Dello eating the oyster insides is reminiscent of a similar scene with a gull in the LucasArts MS-DOS adventure game LOOM. Can anyone else confirm this? 24.216.179.61 19:47, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Splitting

This page is really long and unwieldy. Does anyone favor splitting this page up and linking them with a template? — It's dot com 17:34, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Aye. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 17:36, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm fine with that, but before we do, I think it needs to be renamed "In Search of the Yello Dello" as that's what it's called on the site. - Joshua 17:43, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Should the Fun Facts be split or left in a group? I'm personally okay with them staying in one place. — It's dot com 02:33, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Isn't it odd

Don't you think it is weird that this cartoon had so many problems at the beginning but the toons that came before it didn't have any problems Smallowman 15:27, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I thought that too. According to the Everything Else, Volume 2 commentary:
MATT: So I purposely drew, uh, all of the drawings in this—

MIKE: Yeah, explain yourself, young Chapman!

MATT: Well, I was drawing some storyboards for it, and in the storyboards, as sort of a joke to Mike when I would show them to him, the drawings got more and more exaggerated with each frame of the storyboard. So then Mike was like, "Oh, I thought that was how you were going to draw the cartoon – I think it would be funnier if you just did that, so…
So basically, they were being silly. It's the storyboard's fault. But what I really want to know is were the deleted scenes (excluding #4) really removed from the original toon for the reasons stated or did they create them especially for the "DVD" release as a joke? And why the freaking crap is Strong Bad wearing oven gloves?!?! – The Chort 12:27, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Maybe it's because he didnt get his BOXING gloves yet?! Jibblejibblejibble 19:16, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Nah, they were included in after, with the latest and most advanced editing software! This is A Website (T/C) 20:05, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Or, according to the new version, he stole Marzipan's oven mitts...... Jibblejibblejibble 23:41, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Remark?

At the beginning, 'today' is Marzipan's birthday. However, Homestar takes days and nights to think of the solution. So how could it still be Marzipan's birthday at the end? Helloo?

Well, anonny, I tell ya: These older cartoons were a bit surreal. It probably wasn't yet at the beginning, maybe a week until --Jnelson09 01:50, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ending Music

While it does sound similar to the Donkey Kong intro, it's pretty obvious from the appearance of the Pitfall scorpion that it is actually the Pitfall sound effect for when the player dies.

[edit] Moving?

Shouldn't we move "In Search of the Yello Dello New Version" to In Search of the Yello Dello (New Version), and the same with the old? Having it jumbled together with no separation seems a little awkward-looking. --75.5.176.233 03:09, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

I'd guess the main reason we didn't do it like that is because everything else (Commentary, Theatrical Trailer, etc.) fits just fine. I'm not really in favor of moving them, but neither am I outright opposed to doing so. I'd like to hear some more support for moving them before we took any action. — It's dot com 03:16, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Just saying "The previous longest toon, In Search of the Yello Dello New Version." Sounds too jumbled together. And, in some way, we are making it seem like the official name for the title, which it's never implied on the site that it is (though I doubt this is that valid of an argument). --75.5.176.233 22:15, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Well, the article for the toon (including all its versions and parts of the DVD) is this one. Each of the specialized pages is dedicated almost exclusively to the transcripts of the various parts of the overall toon. All the fun facts and supporting information are in this article, because the different pieces aren't considered separate toons. (One could make a case that the actual running time for this toon is all of its parts combined.) Maybe we should add "Transcript" to the sub-articles (In Search of the Yello Dello New Version Transcript, etc.). — It's dot com 02:50, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Now that you mention it, I just thought of something. Shouldn't we keep the Fun Fact's in the respective transcripts' articles, instead of just the main article? It's like Roomisode 1 and its responses, the Fun Facts for the "transcript" are in its own article, separate from the main (though I did move them), because it wouldn't make sense having it all in one article, not to mention confusing. --75.5.176.233 21:58, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
When I first split the transcripts off from the main article three years ago, I didn't think so, but now I think it might be a good idea. If we did, the set of pages would need to be overhauled a bit (as well as the ones on The King of Town DVD). — It's dot com 22:46, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
I think we need all the old stuff is being ignored. In Thorax, I really have been the only major contributor, the King of Town DVD Template was even improperly formatted for a year or something 'till I fixed it, and I feel that the standards may not be consistent (haven't checked, just a feeling). I think Community Projects need to start happening again.
Besides that ranting, anyone else agree or disagree? --75.5.176.233 22:26, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
I think it should be with the parentheses. They really sort out the title. — fuchsiania 05:07, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Parentheses are better! hegtcX1.png Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 15:32, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
I don't like parenthesis. They look funny!

[edit] Homestar's toes

Hey, as far as I know, the scene where Homestar is talking to Coach Z (at the part where Homestar is shaped like a trapezoid) is the only place I've ever seen Homestar with toes (3 in this case). Should this be a 'Remark?' or in Homestar's character page or something? If you can't find this, look at frame 773-856 in the old version or frame 874-957 in the new version. -Dutchscout 00:33, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

All of the character designs in this toon are somewhat apocryphal. They were just originally just a joke in the storyboards, but then TBC thought it would be funnier if they made the real toon with the exaggerated styles. I think they're in the same class as the style departures in The Reddest Radish and KOT's VOQPCS!. — It's dot com 00:56, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
So... I shouldn't add it because it's not indicative of the actual characters? Is that what you're saying? I'm ok with that if you are -Dutchscout 03:32, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Yes, that's what I'm saying. — It's dot com 23:50, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Remark"-able (figuratively and literally) Resemblences

You know the tune that plays in the DVD menu? Well, I noticed something that would more then likely just be a coincidence and not intended. You see, one of the main instruments closely resembles the tune from [song] from the video game "Eastern Mind: The Lost Souls of Tong-Nou." I don't know if this would be worth adding to the remarks, but it is something of interest. I guess the fact it is likely unintended and we're forced to treat it as such before the Chapm'ns tell us makes it pretty hard to figure out if we should stick this in or not; and whenever or not we'd keep it if they confirm it is just a coincidence. I was raised by a cup of coffee - Camwoodstock 21:43, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

It's probably a coincidence. The DVD menu music (and the title music) is supposed to be the Pitfall II theme music (the "normal" theme, not the other three themes), although it's only half of it. The reason it sounds so much fuller than the original theme is probably due to the use of the overlapping pre-set backing rhythms available to the Chaps on their numerous keyboards.

[the same theme also exists in butchered form in the horrendous NES game Super Pitfall.] -- ■■   PURPLE  WRENCH   ■■ 23:17, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
I guess my main question is if we should put this in Remarks or not... I was raised by a cup of coffee - Camwoodstock 23:20, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Transcripts

Why are There still no transcripts? It's been like 15 years. StarFox 04:54, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

What do you mean there are no transcripts? Of course there are transcripts. — Defender1031*Talk 05:05, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Because there are multiple versions of this toon, the transcripts are each documented on separate pages for each one. -- 68.37.43.131 15:08, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

[edit] Screwy Astronomy

About a day ago, I added this remark:

  • The sun and moon move in opposite directions through the sky, which is impossible on Earth.

This was removed a few hours later by user:It's dot com, who stated, "this is true, but is it really notable in a toon with such stylized animation?" I offer the following other remarks that made the cut and, at least to me, are less interesting than the silly astronomy:

  • During the scene where Coach Z is giving advice to Homestar, Homestar's star appears as a pentacle — a hollow star drawn with lines across each point. Stars are often drawn this way because it's easier to make them symmetrical. [Stars can be drawn a different way! Wow!]
  • Unless Pom Pom had two identical guns, he couldn't have pulled out the gun the second time, because he threw it away. [Maybe he just picked it back up. Or maybe, as the text suggests, he just had two guns.]

I know we all have different opinions as to how interesting various fun facts are and others might not care enough about the motion of the sun and moon, but I figured I'd at least add the fun fact to the discussion page.--Bobo the King 10:14, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

We generally try not to game the system by comparing one piece of wiki info against another, and just examine each on its own merits. That having been said, I don't know why stylized animation would mean that the sun and moon going opposite ways isn't unusual. I'm in favor of re-adding that remark. — Defender1031*Talk 12:48, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

You're right, those were uninteresting facts that didn't really belong. The fact that stars can be drawn a different way has no relevance to the toon. Pom Pom has his gun back (or another gun) because it's funny, and exactly how or why he got it back is unnecessary speculation. Remarking on those things doesn't add anything, so they've been removed. Likewise, remarking on the Sun and Moon doesn't add anything. This is a toon with surreal animation. Characters have wildly different body shapes (sometimes several in the same scene), move in exaggerated ways, are shown to fly despite not having that ability, and speak without moving their mouths. Homestar's tiny house has a solid metal door that, what, slides up through the ceiling? The scenery literally changes to the game Pitfall. I could go on. Listing something in this toon just because it's not possible on Earth is not notable. — It's dot com 15:47, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

I hadn't thought of it that way. I'm convinced that the remark wouldn't be notable. — Defender1031*Talk 20:46, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
I agree. It's not notable. hegtcX1.png Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 21:16, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
I don't agree, but I don't disagree strongly either, so this is mostly a shrug from me. As I said, I mostly want it on the talk page as a record for people who are more curious about the toon. On a tangent, I'd also like to point out that the direction of the crescent moon is inconsistent with its position relative to the sun. (The bright side of the moon always points to the sun.) For some reason, that doesn't bother me as much and I'm not advocating for its inclusion. I don't really have any reason to bring this up except to say that for some reason my allowance for cartoon physics extends to stylized crescent moons but not to the relevant movement of celestial bodies.--Bobo the King 04:13, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
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