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Shouldn't we add the part where Strong bad says "flippin' off rainbows" from sbemail 150? (it's in the song) {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 02:23, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
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Shouldn't we add the part where Strong bad says "flippin' off rainbows" from sbemail 150? (it's in the song) {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 02:24, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
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Shouldn't we add the part where Strong bad says "flippin' off rainbows" from sbemail 150? (it's in the song) » c u t e p e t s r u s « T/C 02:24, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Delete?

This information is only loosely related and really not that important.It's dot com 22:59, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, it has appeared quite a lot. I think it should stay. LePorello / T / C 23:00, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
yeah. if it had only 2 or 3 apperances, I'd under stand, but it has 8+ references. That's why I created it. — Young Roy 23:04, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
No, it really doesn't have that many appearances, because none of these items are that similar, and a lot of them are just abbreviations and such.It's dot com 23:04, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Well, most of these are not cusses to most people, many are common everyday speech. AOnly a few, like the Commandoes, are really intentional uses of cussing for humor. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 23:07, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Everyday speech or not, it's still cussing. And only CitC and no loafing only mention about cussing, the rest have references to cussing. — Young Roy 23:16, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
I agree with deletion. This just isn't an outstanding topic... --DorianGray
I don't care for this page. Swears don't bother me, it's just that keeping track of specific words that characters say (unless it's a running gag; which swearing isn't) just doesn't fly with me. I could be contradicting myself, though. Maybe there are some articles that I would like deleted given this reasoning. Or then again, maybe not. Totally don't want a list of characters who use superlatives... or prepositions... —BazookaJoe 23:58, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
I now think it's a worthy topic. TBC have stated that they don't put swearing on the site, except sometimes they do. This is notable. — It's dot com 00:02, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

If we're gonna keep this

And now we're gonna censor this? We have a page where we can't even discuss the subject matter? — It's dot com 23:06, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Another point for deletion. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 23:07, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Agreed. If this page can't exist in an uncensored form on this wiki, then it doesn't belong at all. — It's dot com 23:08, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
What's weird is that all the cuss words were censored except for "damn." Weird. — Young Roy 23:13, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Roy, it had hope, but I hope you see it's flawed. We can't have a page with the f word and the a word, per our standards. And if they are censored properly it ruins this. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 23:16, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Okay, "Maq," so we can't have a and f up there, but it's ruined if it's censored. Hmmmm... God, I don't want my page that I made the first draft of, one of my few major contributions, so I guess we'll just have to...sigh. I don't know. It's just hard to decide. I guess we have no choice to delete it, unless we bend the rules and leave a and f or ruin it and go ahead and censor it. Young Roy (In a hurry so no time thingy thing.)
This page is kind of interesting, but I would only support an uncensored version. — It's dot com 23:27, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Com's right. This is data, and if it's on Homestar Runner, we can use it. — Seriously (Talk) 23:39, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

If we're gonna keep this, it should not be censored, but it should be limited to material found only on H*R.com (not the interviews (except for the relevant part in the introduction)). I have come to realize that this page has factual merit, given TBC's attitude expressed in the introduction. — It's dot com 23:49, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Dot com, why'd you delete DorianGray's comment? That seems rude. — Seriously (Talk) 23:51, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
He didn't. He just moved it. --Jay v.2020 (Talk) 23:54, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
While I question the use of this article, I feel that censoring the profanities aren't needed. However, use of the word f*** was unneeded in the article. Rogue Leader / (my talk) 03:09, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Title

I'm not entirely sold on the utility of this page, but if we're going to have it could we at least give it a name that doesn't sound so juvenile ("Mom, Billy made a swear!")? My vote is for Profanity. Concerning the above discussion, I'm against censoring this page. The warning at the top is ample. — InterruptorJones 23:56, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

The reason I moved it is because TBC in interviews have consistently used the word "swears" ("But when we get our sketch comedy show, dude, there’s going to be so many swears!"), and even in things like cheat talk. Plus, it's kinda funny. BTW, I think they only called it "cussing" in Commandos in the Classroom so they could make the "cuss-mando" joke. — It's dot com 00:01, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

I still vote for keeping, uncensoring, and "Profanity". SaltyTalk! 00:03, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

While I feel that this should be delorted, if we are going to keep this, I would rather that the title be Profanity instead of Swears. Rogue Leader / (my talk) 00:20, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Meh, "Profanity" sounds so formal and stuffy. "Swears" fits the mood better, methinks. — It's dot com 00:26, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, you don't really hear teens today using Profanity. Actually, it's more of "cursing." We should make the title that. Cursing sounds better than swears and cussing, and way better than Profanity. — Young Roy
Do you have something against the TBC term? If not, then we should leave the title like it is. — It's dot com 13:35, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Definitely. I'm up for moving it to that. — Seriously (Talk) 00:21, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Well yeah, but profanity sounds more encyclopedic. — Seriously (Talk) 00:27, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
But "swears" sounds more H*R. More examples: "Tomkins made a swear!", "Why I can even swear a cuss myself! A-hem. Diaper biscuits." — It's dot com 02:52, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
I see your point (and my bad for not noting the TBCism). Taking that into consideration, I'm fine with whatever everybody else decides. — InterruptorJones 03:29, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Couldn't we just begin the article with "Profanity, or Swears... I think that would be good. — Seriously (Talk) 12:34, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
I think the current introduction (in which Matt says "swears" and is followed up with "swearing") is just fine. — It's dot com 18:17, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Okay—I just think that the actual word should come before what TBC calls it. — Seriously (Talk) 21:18, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

What about the place?

Since words like "Hella, and Helluva" are considered swears, I added the one where old timey Strong Bad says "oh noes i've died and gone to hell".

Not to be Correction Dan, but it's actually, Curses! iv'e died and gone to hell!" — Young Roy
Actually, it's not really considered a swear if used to refer to the place. I think. --DorianGray
I agree, used in the right context it shouldn't be considered a swear, except in the case of their using the context as an excuse to swear. Thunderbird 04:37, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Dorian is right. The place is not a swear. — It's dot com 04:38, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Guess if we can't use the place, we might not be able to use Strong Sad's curse in The House That Gave Sucky Treats: "...if you get it wrong, you get eternal damnation..." — Young Roy

Crap

What is that doing on the list? I know crap is almost like "s---" but crap is not a curse word all that much.

Actually, it is. It's what's known in linguistics as a permissible expletive (or something along those lines). — It's dot com 13:44, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Possible swearing in flashback

flashback- After losing the ten-step footrace, The Homestar Runner responds by saying "WHAAAAT??!!?&,:;%${}". Random symbols usually mean censored swearing.

Disagree. I know that things like %^#$^@# are used to censor swears, but it's not being used for that in this case.

Random symbols are used to censor words in the sentence. These symbols have been attatched to the ??!!?, with no space between them. This suggests that this is an exaggeration often used on the Internet of an overuse of exclamation points. I'm talking about things like !!!!!!!11111, !!!!!111!1!11one!!1, and !!!!!fortyfive!!11!1omgwtfbbq111. Using random characters after a long string of exclamation points and question marks is just a cousin to these.

Secondly, you don't see a hint of Homestar opening his mouth to utter curses in the animation. There's no audio censorship either. Where is the swearing coming from?

This is what I would consider acceptable to say that Homestar was swearing:

  • &,:;%${} WHAT??!!?
  • WHAT &,:;%${}??!!?
  • WHAT??!!?  &,:;%${}!!
  • WHAT??!!?  &,:;%${} (even though the final exclamation doesn't end in an exclamation point, I would accept it if there were a space in there.)

What we are considering is none of the above. Again, the random symbols are attached to the ??!!?. It makes no sense to put censored swears there. —BazookaJoe 03:54, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Agree. (Args pending BazookaJoes args.) Switching to neutral for now. — It's dot com 03:56, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
I agree, not to disagree. I always took it like that. I mean, I think it should stay. SaltyTalk! 03:31, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Agreed... Err, with the disagreement... By which I mean I disagree with the fact. It's obviously a relative of "T3H 1337 Sp33Kx0rz!!~!~@~!!#~!!1!!11@`2!eleventyfive!". --phlip TC 04:12, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Agree with BazookaJoe. Disagree with the fact. Heimstern Läufer 05:35, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
don't know if my input matters, but i agree with the fact. --- Image:Videlectrix man.sig.gif Collin - (T/C) 01:44, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Yearbook signing- rhts

In the Yearbook Character Page on the autograph signing part, strong bad says RHTS meaning "raise hell this summer" and since lmao is mentioned, does anyone else think this may have a place on the page?--- Image:Videlectrix man.sig.gif Collin - (T/C) 02:30, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

To do

Organize the list in chronological order and by toon category (SBEmails separate from toons and games). — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 01:50, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

sbemail: the bird

how about the sbemail "the bird" its all about giving the finger... which isnt really SAYING a swear. but it definatly is considered profanity and gets blurred out on TV. and it would go against TBC thing of keeping the site clean. Del Taco? 20:15, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Sounds good. — It's dot com 22:48, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
Hmmm, I'm not sure on this one. It's a bit of a gray area. The email itself is about giving the finger, but Strong Bad never specifically mentions "the middle finger," so he's not giving kids any instruction on how to "give somebody the finger," and none of the characters in said email actually did it properly: Strong Bad can't do it because of his boxing gloves (even if he says he can), Homestar can't do it properly given his lack of (or at least invisible) hands, and Pom Pom only has one "finger" (his entire hand)... there's really no objectionable content in the email at all, save for the reference to "the finger" or "the bird," and I don't think, taken alone, such a reference constitutes anything objectionable. ~ Bruce 04:01, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Pervert?

Is this considered a swear? Or is it just a rude thing to say? It was said by The Baby Lady in Peasan't Quest if you ask her about Naked Ned. Maggot Man (talk) 19:20, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, pervert's not really a swear... Just an insult, I think. --DorianGray
Well, it's a bad word kind of like Prick. --TheThin 19:39, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
I would disagree with you, The thing. It's a word with a cache, but not a "bad" word in the same category as your other example, which in some contexts is a "bad" word, as it names an unmentionable piece of anatomy. "Pervert" merely describes a person with socially unacceptable sexual principles and behaviors. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 19:41, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

autobiography

  • I've noticed that there isn't a mention of autobiography on this page. Strong Bad doesn't actually say a swear word on the "Words I Probably Said" tape, but it is implied, as Strong Bad does have to fast-forward. Is it worth adding that to this page? Frickinsellout 09:26, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Are you refering to the "the Deke accidentally shoved me to the ground and called me a—" part? If so, I don't think we could really guess what he called him. He might as well said "a crap for brains" which is already covered under Crap. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 10:57, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Do we really have to mention "butt"?

I hardly consider "butt" a swearword. I mean, 5-year-olds say "butt." I think we're only supporting the ridiculous existance of the euphemism treadmill here by mentioning a relatively non-offensive word in an article about swearwords. ~ Bruce 03:55, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Where do we say "butt"? --DorianGray
Under See Also:. In addition to the above, the words "crap" and "butt" both appear frequently. ~ Bruce 04:03, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Ah... Personally, I don't see a need to mention either of those, but I'm okay with keeping "crap" on there, as it has a (pretty massive) page. "Butt", on the other hand, is so minor a word it doesn't even need to be mentioned. You'd have to be some kinda freak to be offended by "butt". (No offense to anyone who is. You're still weird, though.) --DorianGray
Dorian, thanks so much for calling my grandmother a freak. My grandmother happens to be a very nice old lady. (This is a joke, I'm not really ticked off. ;-) ) But just so you know, I've observed that it is a bit of a generation thing: the older people are more likely to be offended by "butt" (and likewise with "crap" and "freaking"). That's my two cents. Heimstern Läufer 09:15, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Not to mention that "butt" can be used in many different ways (the original meaning was "end"):
  • End/edge butt (something I learned in Tech Ed.)
  • Cigarrette butt
  • Rifle butt
  • Etc.
Anyways, we shouldn't mention "butt". ¤ The Dang, Pom Pom, you see that? That's a nice golbol. Talk to me. 12:52, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Even though it is considered a bona fide swear at my aunt and uncle's house, I don't think it belongs on this page. — It's dot com 13:20, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Heh. My grandparents have no problem with "butt." In fact, I've heard my grandmother use said word on many occasions. I honestly can't see how anyone would consider "butt" a swearword. It's just a synonym for "rear end," after all. And of course, you have things like butt joints, etc. ~ Bruce 01:50, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

"Sucks"?

I'm not sure what others' thoughts are on this, but I generally consider "sucks" a vulgar word; I'm not offended by it, but I was surprised by its presence in a couple places on the site, probably on roughly the same level as "hella." Should it also be mentioned? — LuigiHann (Talk | contribs) 20:40, 19 July 2006 (UTC) (left unsigned)

I wouldn't consider it vulgar enough to be listed here or considered a swear. SaltyTalk! 20:51, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Interestingly, the phrase used to be considered extremely vulgar, but over the years it has progressed on the dysphemism treadmill to the point that it is acceptable even in mainstream contexts. — It's dot com 21:46, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
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