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Ding! Senor Cardgage is a featured article, which means it showcases an important part of the Homestar Runner body of work and/or highlights the fine work of this wiki. We also might just think it's cool. If you see a way this page can be updated or improved without compromising previous work, feel free to contribute.

For reference, unlike the character Señor, Senor Cardgage does not use the "ñ" in his name. Drhaggis 17:15, 15 Sep 2004 (MST)

True dat, Drhagman.
- Not Strong Bad

tr00 dat!
MetaStar 12:55, 2 Oct 2004 (MST)

It really doesn't matter if his appearance in flashback is debated. Seriously, it's not a necessary piece of information. --Ogog

Wow! Im sure u havent noticed yet, but if you look reaeaeally closely, this guy kinda looks like STRONG BAD!!! So that's where the nightmares come from!-some retard.

I'm thinking that he is really "Strong Dad." - Dr Haggis - Talk 00:14, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • (Picking up on above point).. I'd asume this implies that Strong Sad et al don't realize this, like he and (ugh) "Strong Mom" had an elicit and sordid rondayview? MetaStar 06:35, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

If Senor Cardgage was in Mrs. Koch's class, he would get an X on his chart for calling guys girls. —2Fast2Furious 9:49 13 April 2006

Shouldn't Senor Cardgage's tendancy to call at guys like they are ladies be a bulleted trait, as it is one of his distinguishing characteristics? --sculptus poe

I think that's better covered in the paragraph immediately following, which includes his other speech patterns. --DorianGray

Senor Cardgage does sound kind of grouchy. Brian Barbera 01:17, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Just because he has a monotonous voice, I guess. Strong Mad is the grouchy one. 2Fast2Furious 12:07, 8 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Visual similarities to Creepy Comb-over Strong Bad

Senor Cardgage has many physical features that are similar to those of Strong Bad (ie. boxing gloves and mask, no shirt, black pants, etc.) TBC obviously patterned him after Strong Bad's general appearance when they created him; however, in the Homestar Runner universe, it is possible that Strong Bad actually patterned his own appearance after Senor Cardgage. It would make sense that Little Strong Bad, after living down the street from him for a while and coming to believe that he is one of the coolest guys ever, might decide to look, act, and maybe even sound as much as possible like the good Senor. It is never stated directly this is actually the case, but it is implied in the email kind of cool when Strong Bad describes his tall, dumpy alternate self (Creepy Comb-Over Story Strong Bad) as an exact duplicate of Senor Cardgage. — Ashen

I reverted the above edit from the page, but moved it here since it represented at least several minutes work for someone. Unfortunately, views on the interrelation of Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage are far from unanimous; edits are regularly made and reverted asserting either that Creepy Comb-over and he are identical and should be merged, or are separate people and should be further elaborated.
Your theory about Strong Bad adopting Cardgage's style is fun to hypothesize about. However, it represents one of our ongoing attempts to take "artifacts" of TBC's creative evolution and explain them into backstory or wrestle them into continuity. (See my lengthy rant on the subject.) The simple explanation for the visual similarities are that Creepy Comb-over SB started as SB's imagination, then Strong Sad said the hypothetical SB described was like S. Cardgage; then TBC liked the character they had created so much they made him a "real" character and gave him a short (even noting the contradictions and confusion they had just raised—"Wait, is Senor Cardgage real!?!"). By this time the hypothetically aged SB had gotten inextricably entangled with the memory of the (assumedly real) neighbor Señor Cardgage, who was immediately obscured by the problematically-real product of their union, Senor Cardgage. Thus we can have Strong Bad appear in the same shot with a character that is neither his imagined self nor the actual neighbor from the past, but... something else altogether. —AbdiViklas 02:44, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

So, let me get this straight. Señor Cardgage is the actual neighbor from the past, and Senor Cardgage is a figment of Strong Bad's imagination? Gm1121983 8:47 pm 17 Jan 2006

Yup, that's about the size of it. Except that Senor Cardgage moved out of imagination to H*R reality. —AbdiViklas 03:42, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
Have you ever heard of Occam's Razor? -- 15:08, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

No. What exactly is Occam's Razor? —2Fast2Furious 10:20 13 April 2006

Seems to me like Senor Cardgage is to Strong Bad as Homsar is to Homestar. Maybe a better name would be stong bad?

Senor Cardgage and Strong Bad are two separate characters as well as Homsar and Homestar. Course, some people believe that Senor Cardgage is really Strong Dad. —2Fast2Furious 17:34 20 April 2006

Surprisingly, The Brothers Chaps made Creepy Comb-Over Strong Bad the real Senor Cardgage. I would have thought that the real Senor Cardgage would scare me as much as Snuffleupagus did when I was little. Senor Cardgage is a little creepy, but he's also funny. His voice cracks me up. 2Fast2Furious 01:42, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Hah! I'm not the only one!! (About Snuffy, I mean.) And yeah, Senor Cardgage is just plain too creepy for me to find funny. He's one of the two things on H*R that I just can't get around (the other being Li'l Brudder; I can't quite get over making fun of disabilities). —AbdiViklas 02:40, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I think the article should at least mention how similar he looks to Strong Bad, even if it doesn't give the theories to why and stuff. --MrCheeze

[edit] Vocabulary

Should Senor Cardgage's vocabulary be listed?

I guess by vocabulary, you mean phrases such as "Excardon me" and "No probalo." I don't see anything wrong with listing quotes. I know there were Senor Cardgage quotes listed in the old wiki. 2Fast2Furious

[edit] Image of Snuffy

Do we need this image on this page, or is Brian trying to tell us that Snuffleupagus is the real Senor Cardgage, and the guy TBC are calling Senor Cardgage is actually creepy comb-over Strong Bad? —Uncle Jim 14:28, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

No, Mr. Snuffleupagus is not Senor Cardgage. His real name is Aloysius Snuffleupagus. Brian probably added the image for a coincidence. —2Fast2Furious 14:32, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Qermaq already removed the image. —2Fast2Furious 14:34, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Anyone could have, actually. Remember to only include verifiable H* info on this wiki. The Fanstuff wiki is where we create and discuss fan-extention versions of the H*R corpus. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 14:38, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Cedric said that I look like Senor Cardgage. —Uncle Jim 00:16, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Idol?

Should we include a reference to the fact that Strong Bad looks up to him like a father? Like during that weird fishing trip that Strong Bad says was a dream come true?

We probably should. You can just add the fact if you want, it's a wiki ;-) Loafing 22:35, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Yes, after the latest email, the movies, it's becoming increasingly clear that Strong Bad and Senor Cardgage's relationship is a running gag. It should get more space on this page. Trey56 07:22, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Senor based on this guy?

It seems pretty likely to me. Take a look at these (real) commercials:

Haha, those are pretty funny (but Senor Cardgage is probably not based specifically on them). — It's dot com 19:25, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
"If you can't get credit in my store... {pauses for five (very creepy) seconds} can't get credit anywhere."
Those are even worse than D/FW area commercials. At least in D/FW they don't send chills up your spine. Has Matt? (talk) 14:57, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey Just thought I would mosey on over here and second that Mark Norton motion, I lived on the Ontario Side of Lake Erie in 2004 when these horrors were still just being broadcast over the television and I couldn't help but think that the two had to be related even in those early days it's just too perfect a Comparison I mean you really can't get much closer to a Senor Cardgage than this guy... especially when the guys who came up with the character used to live in the broadcast region for the commercials. They certainly are creepy especially late at night or on SA. As this is no doubt likely to draw some attention due to the large amount of crossover between the SA, YT, and HS audiences. I was thinking something like this could go up on the Senor Cardgage page if people are cool with that.

"Comparisons can be drawn between Senor Cardgage, and real life furniture salesman Mark Norton who is known for his odd ball late night television advertisements. Usually seen between the hours of 1 and 3 A.M. on the Cleveland FOX affiliate which broadcasts into the Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, South Eastern Ontario, and other regions surrounding Lake Erie."

Cheers Steve.

[edit] The Real Senor Cardgage

The silhouette of Senor Cardgage on the milk carton in kind of cool looks completely different from Strong Bad's creepy comb-over version. --Dewey Finn 22:33, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

So what? There is only one Senor Cardgage, and that is the guy with the creepy comb-over and beer belly! --Shake 17:51, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Senor Cardgage Analysis

Wasn't there a Senor Cardgage Analysis? StarFox 05:25, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Random Quote

I think Senor Cardgage should have a random quote, like Homsar does. Just think of the potential! Am I left? OptimisticFool 19:56, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

No, I think you are right. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 07:27, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Oh. Good. Yes. Well, uh.. this topic got more attention here, btw .. but still not as much as I'd like. OptimisticFool 08:12, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Yes I had a slow day at work yesterday so I started it. It can definitely be expanded upon. Maybe have some links put in like the Homsar one has.  Green Helmet 12:57, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Senyor

In kind of cool, when Strong Sad first says Senor Cardgage's name, he pronounces it as if the ~ is on the n. Is this important, or have you already pointed it out?--Uhh...Lifty...Fernandez 19:19, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Yep, it's already on the Senor article. – The Chort 19:43, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] hremail3184

Can anybody think of a better way to write the following sentence that I was going to add to the article. "Although Strong Bad had previously idolized Senor Cardgage, he had admitted that Senor Cardgage scared him in hremail3184". --PartyBrd20X6 20:21, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

I was thinking about this as well... perhaps like so, and added to the end of the paragraph talking about how SB idolizes Cardgage?

"However, in hremail3184, even Strong Bad is frightened by the Senor's exit (walking in place accompanied by traffic sounds)."

Or something to that effect. *shrugs* In any case, I agree that this should be added to the article. -Zero.exe 01:48, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Real world reference

Is it worth noting that famous minor TV personality John Hodgman was referring to Senor Cardgage costumes on Twitter as "Jonathan Coulton dressed as Strong Bad costumes" until informed of Cardgage's existance? -- 08:41, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Cardgage?

Excuse me, where in the world does the word "Cardgage" come from, and how did The Brothers Chaps come on into the word "Cardgage"? -- 20:23, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

We don't know for sure but probably just one of those wacky things they think of. — Defender1031*Talk 20:29, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Real world reference!

On episode 194 of the Harmontown podcast, "Talk, Talk, Talk, Wounded," comptroller Jeff Davis says that after he turned 30, he suddenly had a pot belly like Senor Cardgage.

Things like that are sightings, not real-world references. Lira (talk) 15:11, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

[edit] Is Senor Cardgage becoming a main character?

So that's my question: Is Senor Cardgage becoming a main character? (or has he already become one)? His importance in episodes has been increasing as of late (in the last few years) and he almost had a character video. So, while cleaning up the Characters category I began to wonder if he was reaching or had reached Main Character status. What is everyone's opinion? —Stux 15:31, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

I still think of him as an alternate Strong Bad. He's not one of the core 12, but the others come visit him on occasion when they need a stranger's advice. Like how the astronomers don't classify Pluto as an official planet, but it's still part of the solar system. 17:43, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
Most of his appearances are in cutaways and he doesn't appear in enough toons to qualify as one. In total, he's only appeared in 30 toons. Homsar, who is a similar character that is often used in cutaway jokes, has 79 total appearances, over more than double Senor Cardgage's while debuting just a little over two years earlier. There are multiple other characters that come close to Senor Cardgage's appearances. While Senor Cardgage might be gaining some relevance in the recent toons, it could merely be a trend that'll phase out eventually. Senor Cardgage, while a lovable character, does not hold the historical relevance or amount of appearances to qualify as a main character. - Catjaz63 19:01, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
Speaking of The Announcer, I also think The Umpire falls into that rank. They live in Free Country, USA and interact with the main cast, but they're not the main cast. You know, minor characters. 19:23, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback everybody! What you guys said makes sense. To that end I'll leave Senor as a secondary character. Unless TBC say otherwise, it sounds like it's good to leave the status quo. —Stux 19:44, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

[edit] Real first appearance?

Isn't Senor Cardgage's real first appearance in an easter egg from flashback? Because technically the guy from kind of cool that SB describes is Creepy Combover Strong Bad, and Senor was only mentioned in kind of cool. - HoveringSombrero (talk)

He first appears "for real" in a kind of cool Easter egg, but his first non-Easter Egg appearance is Senor Mortgage. And for the record, he appears in the main part of flashback singing "let the little childrens go" Guybrush20X6 21:12, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
Given that the guy from kind of cool who Strong Bad describes is revealed to be the same character, especially once Strong Bad is seen hanging out with him in the aforementioned Easter egg, I'd say that is the first "real" appearance for Senor Cardgage. And Guybrush20X6 - You have that confused with alternate universe. The Knights Who Say Ni 00:49, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
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