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[edit] Closed STUFF

[edit] What Is That Stupid Reference?

When Strong Bad talks about the Great Leg and the Leg of Hope, he may be referring to the SNES RPG Secret of Mana. You can upgrade the Great Bow into the Bow of Hope. The leg of hope is also a lyric in the song Add It Up by the Violent Femmes.

Posted on: 16:50, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Closed: 03:46, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was declined, 7–1. A revision was also declined, 10–5. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/50 emails.

[edit] Beefeated

I rephrased the explanation of "Beefeater". This revision was soon undone, with the comment "No no no". Then this undoing was itself undone, with a comment saying my revision was clearer and easier to read. I'm certainly glad that someone concurs, but could I ask for the argument on the other side? What does the previous version have, that makes mine no no no improvement? Guyinypsi 19:41, 24 May 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Flagrent System Error WHAT?

How do you know it says "screwed everything up good." instead of just "screwed everything up"? - C.Olimar788

A Flash decompiler. —BazookaJoe 02:40, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Flagrant error

I was just wondering, did he get a flagrant error in virus? The 386

Yes. (psst... click on that link in your message and you'll see it in the transcript.) — It's dot com 22:30, 1 Sep 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Name that ring

Okay, I'm pretty sure about this one, but I just wanted to check and make sure: Is it just me or is the ring of the phone (when Strong Bad gets the call during the Jess and Tiff email) the same as a standard Microsoft Windows sound? Namely, ringin.wav. For me, it is located hereabouts: "file:///c:/Windows/Media/ringin.wav". -- Tom 00:11, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Definitely the same sound. Nice spot. - KookykmanImage:kookysig.gif(t)(c)(r)
For sure. Same pitch and everything. — It's dot com 00:18, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] tongue of the fatman

I was screwing around with a Flash Decompiler and I found this. Is it anywhere in the e-mail? --Nathand42 03:35, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

That's the name of the game in the Floppy Disk Container, I believe. --DorianGray
Yep. — It's dot com 03:41, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Oh, that makes sense. I never notice those things. Thanks. --Nathand42 03:59, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Holy Crap, it's a real game. Awesome.--Nathand42 04:02, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I've played it before. — talk Bubsty edits 04:47, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Telegram

I don't think this is a goof:

Telegrams are always typed in upper case. They also never use any punctuation, hence the word STOP at the end of each sentence.

Later on, telegrams were able to use punctuation. The last sentence, however, would always end with an = sign.

See here for an example of this: [1]

-- yeah, people just used "STOP" because four alphabetic letters were priced cheaper than one character of punctuation, so it was cheaper to say "STOP" than ".". Go figure. --Hixie

[edit] Naruto Reference?

Don't inflict serious pain upon me if this sounds stupid, but is the "believe it" in Homestar's attempts at deleted a reference to Naruto? -Brightstar Shiner 13:40, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Nah, I think it's just him being H*R. Unless you can show me more context. I've only seen a dozen dozen episodes or so :P Coveredinharmony 02:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Besides, the English dub of Naruto came out YEARS after this email. --DorianGray 02:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Soolnds?

Hey, should we put something about a reference to soolnds in here? SB is clearly talking about selling SS's feet. Sarah 02:08, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

    • I am only saying something about this becuase it is a good point. No, becuase we found out SS called his feet soolnds AFTER this email. Way after this email. In the Lappy period. And, SB didn't mention soolnds, so, no. Jibblejibblejibble

[edit] blue contrast glitch

I don't see this as a glitch. All the contrast buttons do is shade the monitor blue. If you lay blue over blue strangely enough it makes blue. Stribbs 12:43, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ointless-pay

Does the fact that strong bad says "mat" in pig latin really need to be explained? everyone speaks pig latin! user:haldo

You'd be surprised at what some people don't know. --DorianGray 23:38, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mike and Matt

  • the first two email senders are name mike and matt.

This fact was recently added and quickly removed. I found it interesting, and did not notice this until now. Though it doesn't belong on the page, i didn't want it lost for the ages, so here it is, on the talk page for all eternity. (and not the kind of eternity that has an alarm... the real kind) — DeFender1031*Talk 16:01, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Sweet! I love eternity! ... ... ... ... Is it eternity yet? --Jaycemberween (Ho ho ho!) 16:44, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Hang on, I'd like to say something, despite being late to say it. Doesn't this count as a textbook case of Trivia/Remark use?
  • Incidentily, the senders of the emails Strong Bad checks are named Mike and Matt, who share the first names of the creators of Homestar Runner.
That is certainly worth a mention somewhere in the remarks. That's what that section is for, right? Weird stuff that is notable.--Jellote wuz here 02:24, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Wow, I'd never noticed this before. I highly doubt it's a coincidence and think it should go in the article. — It's dot com 05:26, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
I think it's speculation. We have no way to know if it was intended. If the other emails were from Karen, Missy, and so on, then we'd know for sure it's not a coincidence. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 07:16, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm narrowly with Elcool on this one. While I am aware that people tend to be pretty sensitive to their own names (though it's not obvious at first sight, I'm actually involved in that discussion), the fact that this in not purely TBC-created content, but partly user-created, leaves me skeptical. Did Mike and Matt really go through looking for two emails from senders with the same names as their own? It's possible, but largely speculatory, and if they didn't do that, it's just a coincidence. Heimstern Läufer 14:24, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I think that's exactly what they did. The Chaps have said that Strong Bad gets hundreds if not thousands of emails a day (or he did in his prime, anyway). The names Mike and Matt are common enough that it would have been trivial to pick out emails with those senders. Keep in mind that, due to the nature of this Strong Bad Email, they weren't looking for the cream of the crop. The two email messages in question aren't even that good—just good enough for a one-liner response. I don't think it matters that there's no email from a Karen or a Missy. They're not the creators, after all. By the way, as worded, neither one of the proposed fun facts above is speculation at all. They're both patently true. The question is whether the article would be better if we included such a fact in the remarks. The answer is that yes, it would. — It's dot com 02:30, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
That fact is true in the sense that it's not false - The names are right there. It's not true in the sense that we don't know for sure if it was intentional. What you wrote in your reply is a likely scenario, but we won't know for sure unless we ask TBC. In the past we declined to add many facts that seem to be true on the surface, but were just as speculative as this one. What so spacial here? I guess that for every Fun Fact we add to a page, we have a leap to make. Was it intentional? When it's a reference to some 80's cartoon, the leap is short. It's very likely intentional. (Sometimes we think the leap is short and we get it wrong. Like Family Guy) Believing, at least for me, that TBC will insert their own names to the email senders intentionally is a long leap to make. Now the question is am I in a minority here? Elcool (talk)(contribs) 06:00, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm finding this leap a hair too long to work with, as well. I'm quite willing to believe that it's possible that TBC did indeed dig through emails as I've mentioned above. Neither more nor less than possible, which is to say neither likely nor unlikely, and which doesn't seem to me to be enough for a good fact. Heimstern Läufer 13:16, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Someone has just added the fact to the article again. I still think it meets our standards for a remark, even if it's a coincidence. Also I still don't think it's a coincidence. — It's dot com 19:23, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

[edit] This is another instance of Stong Bad.

Is this really necessary? After all, it is A: a Strong Bad Email, so of course it's an instance of Strong Bad. B: Strong Bad is referenced as being in the cartoon already in the header of the article. StarLion 17:27, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

No. Stong Bad User talk:Sam the Man Sam the Man 17:39, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Like, without the r. — DeFender1031*Talk 23:18, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Open sesame"

I don't think Homestar using "open sesame" while rattling off possibilities for a word he can't remember is necessarily a Popeye reference... I know that Donald Norman's book, "The Design of Everyday Things," quotes from a version of the "Ali Baba" story where our hero's pursuers perish when their leader fails to remember the magical door's secret password, "Open Sesame," mangling it several times. (Norman meant to illustrate how difficult it is to remember arbitrary facts.) 24.22.64.228 09:11, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree. There's no actual indication why it should be a reference to that toon. It's a more or less common joke, too. TTATOT, in my opinion. Loafing 09:20, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
On a second thought, "open sesame" isn't even the magic word in this case, meaning the popeye reference isn't even plausible. I'll delete the fact without waiting for further input. Loafing 09:23, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Well, there is the connection of mangling it several times, which homestar is doing, still i think it too vague to consider a reference unless TBC themselves say it is or something. — DeFender1031*Talk 19:12, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Baudot code.

In the Old-Timey Strong Bad Easter egg, Strong Bad ends his emails with the word "stop". Back when telegrams were used, most people used "stop" instead of a period, due to the fact that most telegram systems used a 5 bit binary code known as Baudot to transmit letters, which leaves only 29 possible characters. Those 29 characters were the 26 uppercase letters, a space, a return, and a hyphen.

The Baudot code used 5 bits (which is 32 possible characters). Two of those characters where used as "shifts" (similarly to the shift key on your keyboard), indicating that the following codes indicated "figures" instead of "letters". That's 60 characters all together, although actually only 57 because space, carriage return and line feed were the same in each shift mode. The code did contain a period (00111 in figure mode). See Baudot code table.  Green Helmet 04:59, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] X

In the toon, The "This is real" paper has a box where Homestar has drawn an X in the top-right corner. Is there any way to put that here? I figured out a way to put an appropriate box directly underneath the "This is real", and also underneath it but center justified. Is there a way to put the X in the proper placement? I noticed there isn't an X on the examples in The System is Down or Not the 100th Email!!! either. The Knights Who Say Ni 06:02, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Start on the Right Side, and End on the Left?

I have noticed, In the Goofs section of the article, Where it has the image of all the words Homestar had typed trying to figure out the real word that Strong Bad said, the last word 'delcheated ended on the left side, correct? But if the last word had been typed on the left side, where it usually would end on the right side on a real computer, it got me there? Now, I am no computer technologist, but I am pretty sure, although that is NOT a new computer, and although it can type double sided apparently on a few DOS models, it does not type from right to left. So I am left all like, "Ehh?" help a sista get rid of a headache over here! Jibblejibblejibble

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