Talk:Strong Bad Email

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[edit] Overlooked

What is the most overlooked Sbemail? Jc iindyysgvxc 06:19, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

RickTommy - What do you mean? African or European Sbemail? The Knights Who Say Ni 19:49, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Era=mrehh. Emails=mrEEEEEEEh!

We should just change the Era to Emails! It's a more slicker, catchier name for the email menus. POM Z 15:18, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

I don't think that would be a good name. just think of it... Emails: Mreh. SBemails, mrEEEEEEh! besides, what kind of emails? SBEMAILS!! don't you see? Jibblejibblejibble 23:34, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

This is a good idea. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 03:52, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

[edit] Sbemail shortage

Why have there been so few Sbemails lately? Jc iindyysgvxc 23:18, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

There have been more since June than there were between September and June. Anyway, while I can't say for sure, I personally believe the Chaps have decided to focus on things other than sbemails. And this question is better suited for the forum. --Jay (Talk) 00:35, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Corpy NT6 Section

I think the sbemail imagination counts as a Lappy email, and therefore, we should remove the Corpy NT6 section and put imagination on the Lappy section! Who's with me? User:MICGAGUH

Not me. The Lappy's destroyed, so it's not a Lappy email. --Jay (Talk) 17:29, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

First of all, the email is called "imaginary", not "imagination". Secondly, there was already a discussion on this and we decided what we decided. Thirdly, if it DOES have to be said again, then the lappy's been destroyed and the Compé wasn't purchased yet, so the way we have it now is good and smart. That's all. — Defender1031*Talk 18:46, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

To be fair, the previous discussion doesn't have a clear consensus. -132.183.140.194 18:49, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

And to clarify... there's no Lappy and Compé is not around yet. To my mind, imaginary should remain exactly where it is. wbwolf (t | ed) 00:40, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Possible certain day for email milestones

Has anyone ever noticed that every single email milestone has been on a Tuesday rather than the traditional Monday? Like, 50 emails, flashback, rock opera, alternate universe and email thunder. They've all been on Tuesdays. What's up with that? CrabAttack1999 21:46, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

I would theorise that making a milestone email takes more effort than an ordinary one, especially given the length of the most recent ones. Thus, they take longer to do, and get put out a day later. --DorianGray 21:49, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

(me, quoting a sbemail):You may be half-right... CrabAttack1999 20:35, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] No new sbemail in over...6 Weeks?!

Why haven't made one in 6 weeks? I hope he's not re-e-tired. What's the delay? CrabAttack1999 20:36, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, TBC said they aren't going to be making those Sbemails as often, so to allow Homestar to take the spotlight, or at least get away from doing one every week. Plus, Halloween just happened, and Thanksgiving is coming. They are either too preoccupied with the holidays or making a toon as we speak. Just stay calm and a new toon will come soon.--Jellote wuz here 20:47, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

He can't type any more because he has human hands now. Okay, really, this is not the longest sbemail break, it's not the first, and it's not worth worrying about. Also, this is not a forum (though we have one). --Jay (Talk) 21:06, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Jay, I just wanted to say I enjoyed your response very much (the first sentence). -132.183.140.236 21:15, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

That is because the new baby was born. Duh! They need to care for the baby through it's first weeks and most importantly help Jackie Chapman with the little tyke! Jibblejibblejibble 23:30, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

I hope they come out with a 'toon or SBemail for Decemberween!

[edit] Old Menu Files Still Active

Would it be worth it to actually mention in either the Strong Bad Email Menus or Fun Facts section that the links to the Lappy and Corpy menus still feature the most recent (Compé-era) updates, while the other menus still on the H*R site only go up to the last e-mail posted on them?

Naturally, the explanation is that these Flash files still access the current list, while the other menus are effectively closed files. It's not strictly necessary to put it up there, but I at least find it interesting. kyojikasshu 21:04, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Calculated Update Frequency

In a fit of nerdular nerdulance, I decided to calculate the update frequency for the different sbemail eras. It might be worth noting to show how TBC have gradually moved away from the "updates every Monday" phase.

First up, the three primary (and now completed) eras:

• Tandy era (halloweener - vacation) - 1 sbemail / 1.19 weeks (8.35 days)
• Compy era (invisibility - virus) - 1 sbemail / 1.46 weeks (10.23 days)
• Lappy era (animal - email thunder) - 1 sbemail / 2.43 weeks (17 days)

Note that the Tandy era begins with the first sbemail listed with a definitive date of posting, with both some kinda robot and homsar listed as being posted "on or before September 13, 2001". Assuming a posting of some kinda robot no earlier than August 27, the following would be the high end average figure:

• Tandy era (some kinda robot [estimate] - vacation) - 1 sbemail / 1.25 weeks (8.73 days)

For the Lappy era, I listed the regular update period through sbemail 200. If we factor in the more than nine month break before hremail3184, the numbers are skewed thusly:

• Lappy era (animal - hremail3184) - 1 sbemail / 2.88 weeks (20.17 days)

Since the Corpy transition consists of only one sbemail, frequency of Corpy sbemails is a non-factor.

Finally, you have the Compé era, which has been stalled due to the current baby hiatus. We can only go by the date of the most recent update, which at this point is videography (October 5).

• Compé era (independent - videography) - 1 sbemail / 2.67 weeks (18.67 days)

Alternatively, if we were to consider the "modern era", the resumption of sbemails from hremail3814 on, as a separate update period, we'd get a different figure:

• Modern era (transition from Lappy to Compé: hremail3184 - videography) - 1 sbemail / 2.77 weeks (19.4 days)

Food for thought... obviously, it would need some consensus before this info would be posted. (And, yes, I was pretty bored today.) kyojikasshu 21:59, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

This would be something for Strong Bad Email Statistics. -- Tom 23:14, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Silly me, I didn't even see the Statistics page. And it's already covered. My bad. kyojikasshu 15:36, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Is sbemail206 ever coming out? It's been 4 months and counting.

Funny, around this time last year, people were saying the same about sbemail 201. Heimstern Läufer 07:08, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

There was a baby in the family recently, shortly following the Halloween toon. I'm not at all surprised that the updates have been scarce. --Jay (Talk) 08:37, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I concur with Jay, here, folks! I am not at all surprised, but I am getting impatient. How bad of me. Just be patient peoples, and the next SBemail will come, i assure you.Jibblejibblejibble 17:39, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I think I know why sbemail206 is not coming. In DTotM, when Strong Bad's gloves turn into hands, the Compe gets knocked away. This means the Compe is most likely broken. Or (this may sound ridiculous, but I think it's also possible) they want our article on the basics to stay with the lowest page hits. I mean, why should the basics have the lowest page hits if Strong Bad himself claimed it was his favourite e-mail? RickTommy 22:37, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Ummm...

You're right, this IS the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard. I was content to just ignore it, but i'm concerned that if no one says anything, you'll continue to make unnecessary edits such as "Ummm...". So i'm saying it. This is all speculation, and baseless speculation at that. Did Homestar never appear again outside of the painintg after Jibblies 2? Did Homsar stay dead after homsar? Did the tandy and compy stay dead? These types of continuity just don't happen in the HR universe in general. Further, since this has nothing to do with article content, it doesn't belong here anyway, whether it's a good theory or not. — Defender1031*Talk 09:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Updated list? Or just the XML?

If you have recently checked the Corpy NT6 menu, you will notice that the post-Corpy era emails are also there. Is it an actual TBC update, or is the Corpy reading the Sbemail list from an XML file? --Darkangel 07:23, 11 February 2010 (UTC) (Holy crap, since when have I stopped using that picture?)

EDIT: I just noticed that the Lappy menu does so too. Both menus have no animations whatsoever.

Yeah, ever since random.bat came out, the menus have read from rando.xml... so that includes the Lappy and Corpy menus. --phlip ^T_C 09:28, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Compé Era Box Background is broke...

Can someone fix it? Firefox shows just black with StroBro's head. ColdReactive 05:07, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Inline background images are disabled until the next upgrade. I put a temporary workaround in Common.css. — It's dot com 05:43, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Still shot

Which email is from? RickTommy (edits) 06:29, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

That's from when you hit "pause" on the later sbemail DVDs. --Jay (Talk) 08:29, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Though if anything, i'd say it's probably from pizzaz. StrongAwesome 11:13, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

The background is the same as in pizzaz, but that exact image never occurs in that email. Heimstern Läufer 11:48, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Can't remember!

What is the name of the email where Strong Bad makes loud and flashy shoes to impress the ladies, but they make the power go out. Strong Mad, The Cheat, Strong Sad, and Homestar Runner watch a guy's head(I forgot his name) taped to a TV. And Strong Bad asks them to help send emails without electricity. Then he tapes a paper with writing of the email covering the actaul screen and he pretends to type, Strong Sad holds a blank piece of paper, covering up the words, and uncovers the letters Strong Bad "types" and Strong Maad holds The Cheat who has the "Click here to email Strong Bad" paper, and the wires are tied to Homestar. Then if you wait a bit Homestar and Strong Sad suddenly sing about pee.

That would be extra plug. RickTommy (edits) 23:49, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Forhorglingrads

What is the email that is the start of "Fahoobigahs(sp)"? This is very important to me for it was the start of my getting hooked on SB Emails. --- Mikelj84606 ---

Say it with a flourish: "fhqwhgads." The email you're looking for is i love you. — It's dot com 20:32, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Everything is not fine, something is ruined

I don't know if this is just a glitch on my system or what, but the sbemail list is looking like this. PowerPie 03:46, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

This is an effect of a recent server change. We're already talking about it here. Your photo brought this to my attention, thanks. Apparently I thought the page was fine for whatever reason until I saw that screenshot, heh. —Soiled Bargains ^(talk|ctrb) 04:18, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Strong bad Emails is on air?

what strong bad's email released in 2011?

Do you mean "What Sbemails were released in 2011?"

Well, Actually...none. The last sbemail made (videography) was

released in 2009. --206.116.143.157 01:57, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Easter?

Which Sbemail was the first one to have an easter egg? --ToaJuaraevo01 14:38, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

duck pond. --JohnnyLurg 15:34, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Technically, the link to email Strong Sad in depressio counts as an Easter egg. It says on that email's page that it is the first email to have an Easter egg. But duck pond is the first one where the content is contained in the same window as the rest of the email. The Knights Who Say Ni 16:57, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

[edit] Unexplained Strong Bad Emails?

Hey guys, I was just thinking about a page that we might want to create. I've never created a page before, though, so I kinda want to get approval from some other peoples before I make it.

So in some toons/sbemails, there are times when you see one of Strong Bad's computers in the background with random text on it, seemingly Strong Bad checking another email, and it's never explained. This has happened in the paper three times, a few times in personal favorites, once in no loafing, once in The Homestar Runner Gets Something Stuck In His Craw, and, if this counts, in 2 emails. Anybody know what I'm talking about?

I could be wrong, but I feel like it's happened more times than this as well, and it merits a wiki page. Can anybody think of any other times this has happened, and/or what the page should be called? If people agree that this page should exist, I'd be more than happy to write it. Thanks! Lira (talk) 19:11, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, I think that would be a good page. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 03:19, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps this would be better with a larger scope? There are other times that unexplained stuff goes on in the background, like, i forget exactly when, but a few times the cheat will go by wearing a costume or carrying something completely unrelated to the email with no explanation. — Defender1031*Talk 09:33, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, guys, I'm glad I'm getting positive feedback. DeFender1031, might you be referring to that one time in diorama when The Cheat walks by carrying the Lappy? If so, that was in reference to Strong Bad commenting on how hard it was to cheat nowadays. If that's not what you're talking about, I'll gladly consider your idea if you can give specific examples.

So, if we make this page, what about the name? Unexplained Strong Bad Emails? Background Strong Bad Emails? Other Strong Bad Emails? Ideas, anyone? Lira (talk) 16:37, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Well, The Cheat wears a random costume in anything. He was probably talking 'bout that. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 01:17, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Those are both good examples, but if I'm not mistaken, it happens more than just those times. I don't have time right now to look though. Also, what does The Cheat carrying the Lappy have anything to do with how hard it is to cheat? — Defender1031*Talk 09:11, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Something like Unexplained Emails or Background Emails would be good. I think we should makes the page. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 00:07, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

[edit] Email Strong Bad

What happens if you email Strong Bad at: strongbad@homestarrunner.com is this still active? If now, how else can people contact the Chaps, apart from Twitter?

Nothing happens, really. Your email is sent and Strong Bad doesn't answer it... unless by some miracle he decides to do another sbemail sometime. As for contact, I'm not sure, but I think Twitter is one of the only ways, since they's taken down they's own email address. Oh, please sign your talk posts (~~~~). Lira (talk) 16:50, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

[edit] sbemail206

Sbemail 206 is not a Compe email. Sadly I don't know what to do with it. TheThingé 04:34, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

We're leaving it in the Compé era for the time being because the because the email menu on the site still features the Compé. — It's dot com 15:57, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

[edit] Lappier Era

How are we going to handle categorizing the new sbemails? We still have sbemail206 and too cool under the "Compé Era" section, even though the latter is unquestionably a Lappier Era email. The problem, of course, is that the sbemail menu is still Compé-themed. But we shouldn't keep sticking sbemails in a misleadingly-named section until The Brothers Chaps decide to update their menu. Is there a temporary solution we could use until then? Lira (talk) 17:54, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

I think there should be a "Lappier Era" section, and maybe a note pointing out that it still uses the Compé menu. It makes more sense than including Lappier emails in the Compé section. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 18:54, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

[edit] Not Quite Strong Bad Email List

A little while ago, I changed the list to use — em dashes instead of (tiny text in parentheses). Not only does it look much better (in my opinion), but it's also more consistent with other lists on the wiki. However, it was reverted because it didn't have as much of a "feel" to it. But I don't think that's necessarily a good thing. How should this list be formatted? Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 19:59, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Anyone else have an opinion? The em dashes look clean and consistent, and the tiny text looks aesthetically displeasing. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 23:36, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

i dunno, the tiny text looks nice to me, with text being the same size it looks a bit cluttered — timmodonuts (^T/C) 15:37, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

I'm for the em dash list. The current style doesn't match any other list on the wiki that I'm aware of, and I think changing text size in-line decreases readability. (What does "has a feel to it" mean anyway?) Lira (talk) 19:39, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

I agree that the full size text seems very cluttered and hard to read. Perhaps there’s a different way to present the information? -166.170.0.121 22:43, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

That's weird. For me it's the opposite; the full size text is pleasant and readable, while the small text looks cluttered and arbitrary. Maybe we could make it a table, with one column for the email number, one for the title, and one for the description. That way, we can keep the full size text, with borders between each item so it isn't as cluttered. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 23:21, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

I am down for tables, I love tables, they make it much easier to digest the information! — timmodonuts (^T/C) 16:08, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Not so into the table idea. That just sounds unnecessarily bulky and a weird format for the information. Maybe I just need to see a preview, but I still like the standard list with plain text. Lira (talk) 20:58, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

I don't understand the desire to table everything. I think a table is best applied in situations when paired with an image or other critical data, such as dates. If it's just an example with an explanation, an ordinary list should suffice. -- 68.37.43.131 03:10, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, I mostly agree. I only suggested it because it seemed like a good way to include full size text without some people finding it cluttered. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 05:40, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

The thing is it's no more cluttered than any other list of information on the wiki. If the style is cramping people's style, that should be a larger question for another talk page. Myself, I have no trouble reading it. Lira (talk) 16:13, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Most other places in the wiki don’t have long sentence descriptions within this kind of list. -166.137.90.18 18:29, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

No? What about character relationships? What about running gags and item pages? How is this different? Lira (talk) 19:08, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

So far, it seems there are 3 votes for em dashes, 1 votes for parentheses, 1 vote for tables, and 1 vote for an alternative solution. That's probably the closest we'll get to a consensus, so I've made the changes. I'm putting my reasoning here in place of an edit summary:
The wiki's font size is intended to be read comfortably, so this list should stick to that. Like Lira said, if the text looks cluttered, that's a problem with the wiki rather than this list, so the discussion should be moved elsewhere. Every list on the wiki is formatted the same way, and no one has ever complained of their clutteredness before, to my knowledge. This list is no different in content, and that should be reflected in its appearance. Additionally, I think the consistent size looks cleaner and less arbitrary, and the em dash creates a neat separation between title and description. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 21:26, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

[edit] {reading}

Some emails have {reading} (or some variant) before the email, and some don't. Should we remove them from those emails, or add them to the rest? Or even leave them as is? Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 02:33, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

For the discussion purposes, when present it looks like this.

Honestly, I'd be in favour of removing such instances. This mostly seems to be present in some older transcripts. I think just the presence of the email template is shorthand for him reading it out loud. --DorianGray 05:31, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

I am on the fence whether or not we should remove such instances. Although 99% of email entries are read, sometimes they just show up on the screen. Also, "training" the new reader into expecting "hey this block will be read out loud" the first few emails (assuming they somehow went through each email sequentially) wouldn't be a bad thing. And, in a detailed wiki like this, it might not hurt to have the "reading" portion in every email (although it should look sleeker). Now, my own comment ago kind of thwarted an idea I had, and that was: add the "Reading" portion to the email templates or block quotes. However, since this isn't going to be used 100% of the time, it's probably counter productive (instead a template that adds the notice would probably be better -- that is if we keep the notices at all.) --Stux 12:37, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Since I haven't given my opinion yet, I don't think the notices are necessary. The email box is kind of a continuation of Strong Bad's dialogue, and in cases where it isn't read aloud, the transcript usually states {The following email can be seen:} or something similar. Going straight from the email song to the email makes for a smoother transition.

We don't necessarily have to edit every email page right away, since that would be a huge undertaking. But it would be nice to reach a consensus, just so the notices can be added or removed during unrelated edits, if that makes sense. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 23:36, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

[edit] Strong Bad Email Menu

Two points to make 1. Why did we never have an article for the Strong Bad Email menus in general when the Toon Time and the speciality sbemail ones have a page? 2. The new menu works completely differently and will probably need it's won page or subsection. Still trying figurue out if there's a pattern to Strong Bad's comments on the emails. Guybrush20X6 02:02, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I was just wondering that myself. We need to create Strong Bad Email Menu, stat! (Also, I notice you've been adding descriptions to each email's page. I'd suggest holding off on that for now. It's a big project that needs consensus for how it's going to be implemented.) Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 02:43, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Discussion about descriptions continues at HRWiki:Projects → Toon Descriptions

[edit] anyone like tge sbemaiil homsar?

anyone? no? ok...

[edit] Sbemail209 release date

March 25th, 2022 --J∃ffJMan 17:13, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

I wouldn’t get my hopes up. I don’t think we’re gonna see it for quite a while. And is there any source for that date or are you just making it up? TheOneAndOnlyDanky 18:27, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Mostly making it up, but hey, it might be out on either then OR april fools day, since they've been doing it every 4 years now. --J∃ffJMan 11:18, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

[edit] sbemail templates

I had an idea a while ago. What if instead of putting a whole blockquote thingy for an email, say strong badathlon, instead we made a template for the email. I tried it out and it works.

The template could be: {{sbemail165}} and it would look like:

subject: the cheat

Strong bad,
For a long time i've been wondering.... How far can you
throw the cheat? If you don't want to do that, could you
beat the crud out of homestar for no reason?

Lewis Rudkin
Essex, England.

What do you guys think? Cool idea? Stupid idea? I have made more templates over on my sandbox. - HoveringSombrero (talk)

In theory, the idea isn't bad: I've thought of making a template with all the block quotes. But making 200 different templates is too tedious and problematic to maintain. Better to have a single template that has all the quotes in one place, selectable by a switch statement. That way you can just programmatically pass the email number as a variable (for example {{sbemailTemplate|165}}; name pending) and maintain the code in a single location. The downside would be that of performance as template limits might be reached if all 200 emails are included in a single page. Either way, most likely the already-created templates will be deleted. --Stux 20:23, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

Dear Homestar Runner Wiki,

I was wondering why someone was creating hundreds of templates for individual emails that in practice, would only be used once. It seems more logical to have a single template with spaces that can be customized so it can be used many times in many different ways, when the needs arise.

Also, a customizable template would also provide the opportunity for me to play around with it and write my own hilarious Strong Bad Emails whenever the mood strikes me.
With excrement,
-- 68.37.43.131 23:19, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

I would only approve of this if they were combined into one template as Stux suggested, and even then I don't think it's necessary. Either way, I think the created templates should be deleted. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 05:22, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

These templates don't do anything except move one instance of code off the page where it appears. I don't see any benefit to this. Templates are useful for formatting, which these don't help with, or repetition, which I'd do a different way if we really thought we needed. (Given that sbemails aren't updating, I also don't think we currently need any formatting templates.) — It's dot com 01:31, 9 January 2023 (UTC)