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65lb Cardstock is likely a real-world reference to Kraft paper, generally used for making tubes for various use in pyrotechnics, sold as 'kraft paper', made with the Kraft process.  "65lb" means that 500 square meters of the paper weighs in at 65lbs, generally it is sold in 40, 50, 60, and 70lb strengths.  65lb is just below the highest quality.  I don't know if its worth mentioning or not, so I will let you guys decide. -Xeno  [[User:|]] 19:53, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
65lb Cardstock is likely a real-world reference to Kraft paper, generally used for making tubes for various use in pyrotechnics, sold as 'kraft paper', made with the Kraft process.  "65lb" means that 500 square meters of the paper weighs in at 65lbs, generally it is sold in 40, 50, 60, and 70lb strengths.  65lb is just below the highest quality.  I don't know if its worth mentioning or not, so I will let you guys decide. -Xeno  [[User:|]] 19:53, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Regular paper is also sold in varying weights - see --[[User:|]] 00:17, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
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Continuation of "army"?

Could this email be considered a continuation of the email army due to how the subject nature is so similar to the said email and how this email is called "more armies"? -- The BGG

See here. – The Chort 20:30, 26 May 2007 (UTC)


Anyone else catch the 1337/L337/LeeT in the brochure that read "Backdoor Hacker?"


Just making sure. Frank Bennedetto was not in this email, but rather a memorial to him. Right? - Drsandsattwo 20:18, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Uhm... no. Frank was revealed to be alive in Labor Dabor (and sign your name please.) -Everybody! 21:49, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry. What I realize Bennedetto is as alive as a psuedocharacter can be, but that is a memorial rather than the real thing. correct? - Drsandsattwo 23:38, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I'd say that the memorial of Bennedetto counts as a character appearance as much as stuffed Strong Bad suplexing a cougar does. ~jeadly 16:39, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

My vote is that Bennedetto isn't so much a character as it is just an average everyday popcorn maker that Homestar, in all his geniusness, thinks is a character named Bennedetto. He's probably the only one who sees the memorial as an actuall memorial. To the rest of the world, the real question is: is it the same popcorn maker? Who can really say?-- 18:31, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

I have made my decission

I can do the transcript luckaly say my parents. I can do the transcript. Can I do the transcript again? User talk:Sam the Man Sam the Man

Has Matt? is working on it now. Trey56 21:54, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Not-yet opened STUFF

The third kid facing certain doom in the Homestarmy refers to military school.

- Gtxm78 Its Brown 21:56, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I think that, if anything, certain doom refers to the fact that Homestar is a ridiculously inept "commander" and will lead the Homestarmy to certain doom. - Chupaqueso 22:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

He's more of a "Col-o-nel". -WeatherPerson

Jumped in?

What's that mean? Strong Bad said you can send your kid off to join the On Point Kings, but he'll have to be jumped in. Funny, usually by the time I come here, the e-mail page is already done. It's odd to see it so new :). Kvn8907 22:11, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

It's the standard gang initiation... urban legends about flashing headlights and assaulting random people in front of Wal-Mart notwithstanding, most gangs simply beat the $*#! out of prospective members to make sure they're tough enough. That's called being "jumped in". 23:22, 21 May 2007 (UTC) (a no-account good for nothing so and so)

Well, I remember in 5th grade we learned about gangs. (A police officer came as a special guest.) What gangs do, is they try and see how tough you are by beating the crap out of you. Then, you are in the gang, and there is bad stuff (I don't know the specifics, because I've never been in one, thankfully), like weapons and drugs. Then if you want to get out, they have to "jump you out." That means you get beaten up, but a lot harder, and some people have died trying to escape/get out of gangs. Tgcdse

Firebert to Trogdor

It's possible that The Cheat didn't change Firebert to Trogdor just because his name was awful. I think it's more to do with the popularity of Trogdor and the amount of fan contributions it has spawned.

Same here. kai lyn 00:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
agreed --EricTheDerek 00:20, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
I disagree. I think the firebert not being a good commando name was exactly what they had in mind. — Defender1031*Talk 00:22, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
but Trogdor isn't a commando it? --EricTheDerek 00:25, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
I agree as well... SB may have stated his opinion that Firebert isn't a good commando name in a previous email, but there's no reason to assume that's the reason he's unpopular; the gag would have worked just as well with any of the other commandos. The gag is a commentary on how much more popular Trogdor is than the commandos, not the "quality" of the name. - Ugliness Man 02:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Redheaded stepchild?

Is it possible that "step-headed red-child" is a reference to the phrase "redheaded stepchild," meaning an unfavored child? -HotBees 00:01, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

If that's an actualy saying, then i'd say definately. Incidentally, i've never heard that before. — Defender1031*Talk 00:03, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
I have. --Jay v.2022 (Auld lang syne) 00:21, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Me three. Trey56 00:22, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Ditto, I've heard the phrase "gonna beat you like a red-headed step-child", and I've heard a few comedians reference the phrase. And even if it wasn't a common phrase, there'd pretty much be no other explanation for what the heck step-headed red-child is supposed to mean. - Ugliness Man 02:15, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
According to Urban Dictionary, red-headed stepchild is a synonym for whipping boy. That's how I've always heard it used (eg, my department is the company's red-headed stepchild) and that makes sense in this context. (Be ye warned, oh external link-clickers, Urban Dictionary is NOT a family-friendly website!) Not Horse Woman 00:44, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
It's an old saying for suretain. --Mycroft Holmes 01:19, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Links to toon titles

Is there some kind of arbitrary rule that you don't link the same page twice in a paragraph or something? "which strong bad said was not a good commando name in army" looks wonky without a link or some way to identify "army" as referring to an email and not simply a grammatical miscarriage. -anonymous

Link once and only once. First instance only. It's not unwritten, it's written.. place... Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 01:45, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
I understand the reason for the rule, and I'm not asking for the rule to be relaxed or broken, but there should be some sort of punctuation or format convention (quotes, bold, italics, some combination of 2 or 3) for a case like this. Otherwise, as anonymous pointed out, it just looks like bad grammar. - Ugliness Man 02:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
"Once and Only Once" has little to do with this... the rule you're after is Link once. But I agree, things like email names should be linked every time... --phlip TC 03:07, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
You sure 'bout that, Phlip? Email names always linked? Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 09:07, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
It's tough, because if we were doing it correctly, we would probably have all the toons' names italicized. Since we don't, if you use the name of an email/toon but don't link it, it looks strange, like this: "Strong Bad's first email was some kinda robot". Especially the emails, since they're uncapitalized. So, I'm not sure that linking them all the time is the best solution, but we've got to do something to make them stand out, and italicizing them sometimes but not others would be too inconsistent... Trey56 09:12, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
I'd say link all unless doing something major to all of 'em such as italics or quotes. - Joshua 17:31, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
I've always thought toon titles should be linked every time. In a way, it is their punctuation. — It's dot com 04:03, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
I think such a change is the sort of gnome work that could be completed site-wide in a matter of days, if not hours, by one or two industrious gnomes — if there were an official decision made (e.g. always link, link once but always italicize, or whatever).BryanCTC 14:45, 23 May 2007 (UTC)


What does the "Boond You Like?" poster behind Homestar mean? —Einstein runner (thorax.pngfile_icon.gifmail_icon.gif) 02:54, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

From what I understand, it's a portmanteau of "bowl" and "spoon." That still doesn't make sense, though. -HotBees 03:00, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Maybe something to do with war bonds? --phlip TC 03:14, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
How 'bout "bowl", "spoon", and "would"? 19:39, 24 May 2007 (UTC)


The line "Mercenaries are typically known to have bad reputations" was used to explain the point of Strong Bad saying "We do bad stuff". How is this not NPOV? -Itama 03:29, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

I took that sentence out, and with NPOV, I meant the part about the missionaries. Without the missionaries bit, I didn't see much relevance in the mercenaries part of the sentence. Loafing 10:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


should it be mentioned that the "do you has" poster, though slightly changed, has been used in a down loadable wallpaper?

"Do you has?" reminds me of Bombcar 07:44, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
"Do you has what it takes to join the Homestarmy?" is from army, which was published in January 2004. ICHC's first post is from May 2006. Loafing 07:57, 23 May 2007 (UTC)


So, someone thought that the Poopsmith's change into the Municipality Soldier was not related to He-Man... I thought the lightning striking the shovel was just like the special magic that changes Prince Adam into Heman... "By the Castle of Grayskull.... I HAVE THE POWER!" I would like to add it back in, but please let me know what you thing.... I think you need to be a He-Man fan to appreciate it... any takers for a debate? mister t 05:06, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

I see the resemblence, but I think it's a reference to the Marines commercials (especially given the context of the toon). Trey56 05:09, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
No, I totally thought of He-Man too. The Chaps are notorious for '80s refs. ...I think. --DorianGray 05:14, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
But really. Is this the place for a He-Man reference? Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 09:06, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
I'm gonna have to agree with Trey on this one. This is a clear Marine commercial reference. It also makes a lot more sense to be referencing an actual military recruitment commercial (rather than He-Man) at a Vaguely Military Career Fair. Manolios 14:07, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
It does seem like a He-Man reference, now that you mention it. Besides, The Poopsmith doesn't almost lose his grip, like in the Marines commercial it seems to be referencing. Neox
And He-Man... does? The Marines commerical reference is patently true (it says "pooper fi" on his shield). The only reason the scene resembles He-Man at all is because the Marines commercial that it parodies kinda does. — It's dot com 15:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Why is everyone acting as though the Municipality video can only be a reference to one thing and one thing only? Is it not a possibility that it references BOTH the Marines recruitment ads AND He-Man? 20:35, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Because when something is clearly a reference to thing A, and kind of sorta resembles or is a stretch to thing B, then it's probably just a reference to think A alone. (It could be considered a variation of TTATOT that I will call TAOT ("this and only this").) — It's dot com 20:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
As the coiner of TTATOT, I hereby give my support to TAOT. I bequeath thee! --Jay v.2022 (Auld lang syne) 05:06, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

His left hand?

The Cheat uses the marker with his left hand.

I don't want to change this yet just in case it's just my dyslexia, but I'm pretty sure the Cheat is using that marker with his right hand. Wrath 13:52, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, true, i corrected the wording, didn't think to look at the fact itself. Okay. DELETED! — Defender1031*Talk 14:06, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Brown Ops

I am not 100% on this, but aren't brown ops Navy operations in coastal and riverine areas?

What? No goofs?

Shouldn't there be a goofs section? I noticed that when Strong Bad gets up, you see his reflection emerge from behind the Lappy and his head is behind the fairly tattered Paper.

I haven't seen that one yet myself. But it's a wiki; feel free to add it. — It's dot com 15:04, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Who says he's looking at the paper? If your printer suddenly started shooting out ripped, mangled paper, would you look at the paper, or the printer? I say he's looking at the printer! --JamesDean 05:17, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Mile reference?

Does anyone else think the sound The Cheat makes in the beginning of the Easter Egg is similar to that 1 from when he looked around in mile? Bad Bad Guy 15:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps, but why is that notable? — It's dot com 23:47, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


Isn't "Ganglo-Saxon" a portmanteau of "gangly" (probably referring to the build of high-school-age students likely to be attending career fairs) and "Anglo-Saxon"? (Edit: I see now that Has Matt? has added it to the Portmanteaus page already, just not here.) -ReverendTed 15:55, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


The music is the scene after the 2 Weeks... sound familiar. I think its from something. I'll see if I can find it to have proof.--‪‪‪X66x6615px-X66x66.png 19:12, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Strongest Man In The World, I believe. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 22:48, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


Is it just me or does the Shady Missionary look eerily like the Undertaker from old school WWF? The facial expression is exact. --((User:Shadix))

5 Bucks

I can't be the only one who noticed this. Homestar saying that the "viewer" looks like he comes from "a long line of five bucks-havers" is a direct reference to the email army. However, I'm guessing maybe there are so damn many references to that email in this one that listing them all would be silly? 20:35, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Joe Piscopo

Did I miss something? WTF does Joe Piscopo have to do with anything? --- Wfaulk 22:45, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

He's listed as a client on the brochure for the On Point Kings. -Itama 04:02, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Long Sbemail

Apparently, the sbemail was put up for 3 weeks. Should I mention that anywhere? The Magic Pixel 23:23, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I guess someone else added it. NEVERMIND'D! The Magic Pixel 01:37, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Note that time capsule spanned an even longer period of time, so there's nothing notable about the three weeks except that SB actually completed answering this. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 04:01, 23 May 2007 (UTC)


Does noone remember that at the end of Montage Strong Bad upgrades to an inkjet in sbemail173 and that could be why the paper is mesed up? — (Talk | contribs) 23:36, 22 May 2007 (UTC) (left unsigned)

See more armies#Inside References. It's already mentioned. Has Matt? (talk) 23:38, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Everyone remembers. Trust me. You should drop by the forum some time. Wrath 01:32, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Told Ya!

As some of the higher-up wikiers may remember, I tried to create a page on the Inkjet Era about a month or 2 ago, but it was quickly yet vigorously discussed, closed, and deleted. I "rebeled" by making a Userbox for it on my page. I'm not usually one to say this, (and tell me if it breaks any rules) but, IN YOUR FACE!!!Supuhstar* Image:Supuhstar(SupuhSmall).gif

Calm down tigger. I knew it would hapen too.
Yes, BUT at this moment in time, we don't know whether The Paper really will be replaced (and I sincerly hope not), or if TBC are just messing with our minds. Again. Your article was probably deleted because it was pure speculation. – The Chort 20:29, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Man, I was worried there was nothing in this article about that! you made my day =] O a Israel 15:05, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Roman Trifold

What the crap's a Roman Trifold? Retromaniac 00:20, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps it's a play on the Roman trireme. A brochure of this style is refereed to as "trifold", that's for sure. The rest is a guess. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 04:04, 23 May 2007 (UTC)


Isn't that helicopter from TGS Issue 1? Retromaniac 00:25, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

No, it looks totally different. Go and have a look. Loafing 00:28, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
It still looks the same. Awexome Cross 21:49, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Also please note that my username was DELETED, so I had to re-register. Awexome Cross 21:50, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Email sequel

I believe TBC broke their own rules. Didn't they say not to email Strong Bad asking him to remake an old email? This is basically a sequel to army. Hagurumon 03:47, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Their admonition was not to ask them to "do Trogdor again" or anything like that. And frankly, this is as much a sequel to origins and disconnected as it is to army. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 03:50, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Yes, more of a sequel to several things. They just don't want the same question a second time. An offshoot or followup question seems to be okay, though. --DorianGray 03:52, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Also, dangeresque 3 was a sequel to stunt double, so it's not unprecedented. — It's dot com 03:53, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
There's a big difference between "I have three sons that wish to join the Strongbadia army. Do you have any pamphlets, brochures, video information that could assist." and "GHET HOMESTRAMY TO INVAED STONGBANDIA AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11" (Incidently, I was just re-watching "army" the day BEFORE this email was released. :) – The Chort 16:34, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

The Cheat and Firebert

Is it fair to say that The Cheat voices Firebert in the Cheat Commando cartoons just as Crack Stuntman voices Gunhaver? Evidence to support this:

  • The Cheat Commando cartoons are produced by members of the main Homestar Runner universe (hence Stuntman's message on Marzipan's answering machine). Theoretically, the other voice actors behind the CC characters exist alongside Homestar Runner, Strong Bad, etc.
  • This email seems to indicate that The Cheat is making an appearance as the actor who plays Firebert.
  • Firebert has never spoken English in any of the cartoons, but he made The Cheat noises in Shopping for Danger.
  • The Cheat also went by the name of Firebert in army.

I think this makes sense, and I think it's intended by TBC, rather than simply speculation. Anyone agree or disagree? Trey56 06:46, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Agree on all counts. — It's dot com 02:04, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Isn't the real question being asked here whether Crack Stuntman is a product of Strong Bad's imagination that materializes on Marzipan's answering machine? What is REAL in the homestarrunner universe is an impossible question, although one that I think would be interesting to explore. For example, is Videlectrix a real video game company in the homestarrunner universe, or a product of Strong Bad's imagination? How could games that he conjures up in an email appear instantaneously as "real" video game cartridges, available in Free Country USA. Do we assume that Strong Bad is actually on staff at (or being plagiarized by) Videlectrix, or does Strong Bad actually have the most powerful "telekenisis" of all the characters, creating a corporation with real employees and products with the power of his mind? Is it possible that there is a sub-universe within the homestarrunner universe that is only as real to the characters as is to us?
What makes you think crack stuntman is a product of strong bad imagination? the cheat commandoes tv show is a real show in the HR universe, so clearly gunhaver needs a voice actor, hence a guy named crack. meanwhile, there are spin-offs, certainly, many of which are unexplained, like senor cartgage suddenly appearing, but these spin-offs should not be taken are a direct result of strong bad talking about them. -Zatchman 03:16, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I guess you're right in this case, I thought that the cheat commandos were one of those things he kinda randomly starts talking about and then appears, but that's just firebert, and the cheat kinda invented him.
Well I agree. —Supuhstar* Image:Supuhstar(SupuhSmall).gif

The paper?

What's up with the tattered paper at the end there. Could this be the end of the paper?

See here, here, and on this very page: here.BryanCTC 14:32, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
In montage, it said that the paper stuck around until email 173,at which point Strong Bad upgraded to an Ink jet Printer. 20:42, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Homestar the Traitor?

Ok, now is it just me, or does anyone else here Homestar Talking in the Firebert Easter Egg? listen carefully, and you can hear (or might hear) a person speaking with HSR's Speech impedement. I just want to know if i'm just crazy or if it's for real before I post it. - Zerlock1124

I turned the volume way high up, and he doesn't have his speech impediment. 00:50, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree, it's not Homestar. While I DO hear someone that sounds similar to Homestar, I think they weren't INTENDED to be Homestar. Bluebry 00:53, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Shady Missionaries album cover change?

Is it just my imagination, or did the easter egg album cover art change shortly after the release of this sbemail? I seem to remember it being cartoony and MSPaint-ish.

Major Bludd

This fact was removed, but I think that it's very possibly true (unlike the other one that was removed with it):

Strong Bad's mercenary costume closely resemblances that of Major Bludd, a mercenary from the G.I. Joe cartoon series.

According to Wikipedia:Major Bludd, Major Bludd has an eyepatch, a mustache, and a cybernetic hand. I don't know much about G.I. Joe, but this is enough to convince me. Trey56 22:11, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess I removed it too hastily. I read the part about Major Bludd's eyepatch and mustache, but I didn't read the comic books section of the article, where it talks about his cybernetic hand. Since TBC reference G.I. Joe all the time with the Cheat Commandos, I don't think it's wrong to assume that they were referencing Major Bludd here. Has Matt? (talk) 22:17, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Cool. I wasn't convinced until I read the bit about the cybernetic hand either; I'll add it back in. Trey56 22:18, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Jumped in/Jumped out Gang Reference

In school, we learned about gangs from a police officer, and these are confirmed facts: For anyone who doesn't know, gangs "jump in" potential members. When someone chooses to join the gang (a bad choice btw, if you've never learned that), the gang beats the crap out of you to test your toughness. Then, in the gang, they have bad stuff like weopons and drugs, so if you want to get out, they "jump you out." This is supposed to be even worse, where they give you no mercy, and beat the crap and everything out of you (some people have died trying to get away from a gang they were in). Anyways, does anyone think that we should add it as a real world reference to gangs (when sb mentions jumping in and out)? Tgcdse

It's already mentioned in Explanations. But I don't think it explains what "jumping out" is, so you might want to add that information to the fact that's already there. Has Matt? (talk) 16:00, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

65lb Cardstock

65lb Cardstock is likely a real-world reference to Kraft paper, generally used for making tubes for various use in pyrotechnics, sold as 'kraft paper', made with the Kraft process. "65lb" means that 500 square meters of the paper weighs in at 65lbs, generally it is sold in 40, 50, 60, and 70lb strengths. 65lb is just below the highest quality. I don't know if its worth mentioning or not, so I will let you guys decide. -Xeno 19:53, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Regular paper is also sold in varying weights - see -- 00:17, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Closed STUFF

Oh, check me out, it's in back of my head!

Strong Bad's head is behind The Paper when he comes back to look at it.

Posted on: 18:44, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Closed: 20:10, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

VERDICT: This item was declined, 16–6. The votes and arguments have been moved to HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/more armies.

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