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Explanatory note

On Oct. 9, 2005, I changed my name from notstrongorbad to AbdiViklas. This was prompted by the fact that MediaWiki 1.5.0 wouldn't accept uncapitalized usernames, but motivated by a long-standing wish for a different name. So you'll see a lot of "notstrongorbad" signatures below; that was me. I've changed a few instances, especially when they link, to AbdiViklas.

Heimstern responds!

Glad to see someone noticed my new user page! Yes, here at UCSB, most people start the Ph.D. program immediately after the bachelor's. Glad to hear that you remembered the Tristan chord; that is a personal fascination of mine. That being said, I am hoping to look into 20th-century tonal and/or centric music. I haven't decided on a dissertation topic yet, though. Anydangway, keep on tranglin'. Heimstern Läufer 03:50, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Welcome! You've Got Mail

Hi! Greetings! I'm just stopping by, here to say a friendly 'hello'. I also wanted to give you a friendly reminder about putting up a User Page about yourself so that we may know more about you ;). No pressure, we're all busy. Hmmmm, but a petition/guestbook asking you to write a user page might be cool. Feel free to remove this if you feel it to be obstrusive. --Stux 03:19, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

LOL--you guys are incorrigible! I just wish the real world worked that way--you walk into a party: "Hi." "Who is this fascinating stranger? You must tell us all about yourself!" Seriously, I'll get to work at once! notstrongorbad 04:49, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Petition

We, the undersigned, do beleive it would be is very cool to see a AbdiViklas user page. Moreover, we sincerely thank notstrongorbad for writing such an amazing user page! (Feel free to initial somehow for revision.)

Yay!

I haven't had time but to skim it so far, but I wanted to go ahead and leave a note to say thanks for letting us know about yourself. I myself was a music ed major in college (actually a double major with Spanish—and now I'm a graphic designer). I primarily played horn, but I also had to learn all the other instruments, including violin, as part of my degree plan. Cello was my favorite stringed instrument. Well, it's late, so I will give your user page the closer read it deserves in the morning. Talk atcha later! — It's dot com 07:01, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Whoa! A graphic designer who can speak Spanish and play every instrument! You should, like, write an opera in Spanish and record every part yourself, then design the CD cover!
LOL. Nice. --Stux 07:09, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
It's funny you say that, because that's a lot of what I do. I don't write operas, but I help publish a music educators magazine for our state association. I still speak Spanish (although not as much as I should to remain fluent... gotta get on that), and I just recently finished a CD cover. If I did write an opera (and it was hard enough just writing for theory and comp classes), I don't think I could record every part myself... that is, I can play brass instruments pretty well, but my best song on the violin was "Go Tell Aunt Rhody." — It's dot com
I've given it a second read (I didn't wait till morning like I said I would), and although the lateness of the hour precludes my being especially witty or profound, I do have one remark: I hope that what you really meant for the last line was "The Beginning." — It's dot com 07:42, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Ditto. Ok where did all of my original ideas go? --Stux 08:29, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Can you help me?

What is this STUFF and everything you were talking about? And can you see what this little 15 year old punk did? Every move I made he reverted, even though all but the first email one was valid.

-Mortacai

     Absolutely. First of all, the links that bkmlb left on your talk page are good reading; Help is mostly on how to do things, Standards more on what to do. But they're kind of a lot to take in; I just today noticed some excellent details on how to make some stuff more easily at User:Lapper/help.
     But to answer your question: HRWiki:STUFF is a sort of formal voting process. Using the most recent email as an example: usually when an email comes out, disagreements will arise about what they're saying; at first people will talk about them in that email's Talk page, and if there are two clear sides, or if it's an important issue, someone will move the fact being discussed into Stuff, using the process described in HRWiki:STUFF. There it'll be voted on; even if it's declined those votes and arguments will be archived forever and can be found. Voting tends to be pretty restrictive, i.e. not much gets by; if I'm really interested in an e-mail I'll check the archived Stuff arguments. For instance: the possible bit of trivia expressed in Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_9#Byrds_reference is way too speculative to appear in the official, user-end page for that 'toon, but it's helpful to know.
     By the way, I know it's frustrating being repeatedly reverted, but dramatic actions to the official, front-page part of an article are simply met with equally dramatic reversal. When that happens, just move your point to the less public Talk or Stuff venues, and see what majority opinion is. You might be overruled, but you always have the right to express your opinion (there, at least). For example, in do over, there was a LONG and HEATED debate about a possible Family Guy reference. Jay was strongly against it, and in the end was voted down; he had to live with it, but was able to continue the debate.
     So yeah, what Camalex did wasn't really unusual or rude, just the way it's done. Also, this Wiki is an amazingly civil and democratic place; conversation is (usually) done politely, and someone's age doesn't really have much to do with it. There are quite a few amazingly mature, articulate, ca.-12-yr-old users who keep the place shipshape.
     I know this is long, but I just wanted to say great edit on guitar. I can't believe no one had caught that earlier. --notstrongorbad 05:31, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Tha Lyrical Flow

Hey, notstrongorbad, just dropping you a line. So, you're the master of the violin, eh? My girlfriend plays one of those things in something called an "orchestra," but that just sounds like crazy music-talk to me. Dozens of musicians all playing a variety of instruments at the same time? Can it be done? Furthermore, do you get in bragging rights fights with the viola people? Have you ever played "the word's smallest violin" for someone?

I myself only play the electrical guitar and the electric bass, and I have zero formal training in either. Needless to say, I would never call myself a "guitarist." But, for the style of music I play (punk), no talent is necessary! Anyway, I dig your long-winded, rambling comments. There's too much succinctness, terseness and brevity at the wiki, and running up the word count rules. Cheers, THE SMOKING MONKEY 12:46, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I used to play in a couple of community "orchestra"-contraptions until this thing called grad school (imagine jittery green text plus "lurking horrors" sfx) happened. And yeah, I don't know about bragging, but violins and violas get in some good jokes at each others' expence. ("Which is bigger, a vln. or vla.? Really they're the same size; it just looks that way 'cause the violinists have such big heads." "How do you tell when the viola section is at your door? No one knows when to come in.")
     But punk's more fun. Now do you mean old-school, The Clash-type punk, or one of the many offspring of punk's indiscriminate liaisons with other genres (hardcore, loudcore, punk-pop (wha??? shouldn't that be a contradiction?)...)? — notstrongorbad 09:05, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)
nsob, I knew there was some "good-natured ribbing" going on between the violin/viola sets. That's good to hear, no pun intentionally meant! As for my "craft" I was raised on the smooth, soulful sounds of The Descendents and the Dead Kennedys, so there's more than a little post-surf punk going on in my stuff: tight, sometimes sliding (you know, those surfy "twang") riffs, semi-melodic vocals, and drums that try to mix it up beyond the straight 4/4 (see the "snooty independent record store" easter egg in comic for more insight on that). My friend (and owner of one of those cute, fledging start-up labels that will be putting my "music" out) calls it "electro-punk", since I use a drum machine. Ah, the Alesis AS-16. So much, much easier to deal with than an actual drummer.
For my next "album," an EP, I'm basically paying tribute to one of my recent punk favorite adoptees, The Alkaline Trio, except without all the macabre imagery. Just plety of relentlessly fast guitar work and songs clocking in under two minutes. In fact, I'ma go blaze through a set right now. Thanks for responding and giving me a chance to rant about my music! — THE SMOKING MONKEY 12:56, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)
LOL—yeah, there's also a joke about that new drum machine, an emulator so authentic that it shows up half an hour late for rehearsal and then asks to crash at your place because its girlfriend threw it out! (By the way, you can tell when the punk drummer is at your door because... the knocking speeds up whenever it gets louder.) — notstrongorbad 19:35, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Abdi - man, is that odd - thanks for the drummer-related laughs. Incidentally, I've worked with about half a dozen drummers, and their biggest crime was being too professional (i.e., prima donnas), but perhaps one day I can work with the guy kicked out of his place by his girlfriend. That, indeed, would be rocking and scary at the same time. THE SMOKING MONKEY 02:45, 10 October 2005 (UTC)~

New name

Heh. Oops. You should move your welcome to your new name. It will create an automatic redirect from the old name. — It's dot com 02:28, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

I had the impression we weren't supposed to create subpages if we can help it; are you saying I should move it to User:AbdiViklas/welcome? I just changed the references to myself and have been subst'ing it same as ever; seems to work okay. (I'm a little lost by what you mean about an automatic redirect...?) —AbdiViklas 02:30, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Yes, if you're abandoning the old name you should move it. You'll see what I mean about the redirect once you move it. Also (and I don't know whether it's too late), but you should also see HRWiki:Changing username. — It's dot com 02:33, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
See the "move" link at the top of the page? That's what you're looking for on your welcome page. — It's dot com 02:39, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Hm; apparently I didn't move that correctly. I guess you meant using the formal "move" procedure... I'll look into that, just a sec. But meanwhile, the old one's been marked for deletion... EDIT CONFLICT okay, thanks for the help; I'll see what I can do... —AbdiViklas 02:41, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
That better? —AbdiViklas 02:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Yes. And I thought the procedure was necessary because other users' pages were linking to your old welcome, but now I see that no pages link to it. I can just delete the old one now, I suppose. (And isn't it more fun to do something the prescribed way instead of the duct-tape way? ;) ) — It's dot com 02:47, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Yup! (Unless some doctor could prescribe duct-tape... I haven't found one yet.) Also, yeah, I saw Changing username after it was already too late. But I had my preferences back in a few minutes, and I linked to my old contributions from my user page; I don't see that I'm missin' much. If there's anything I've missed that's a problem for the wiki, not just an inconvenience for myself, let me know! —AbdiViklas 02:52, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi from Schuminweb

Thanks for the welcome message.

I've actually been familiar with the HRWiki for quite some time, and had a username on here at least as recently as September when I did an edit on Senor Cardgage. Then I attempted to log in to make these most recent edits, and my username was gone (go figure). So I reregistered my same name. Again, go figure.

Otherwise, though, I definitely do know my way around, not only here, but I'm quite a regular Wikipedian.

Still, I don't understand how I lost my username. Ah, well. Life goes on. Schuminweb 22:49, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Capitalization... It used to be so coooool...

It is NOT the standard on this Wiki to write TGS issues in all-lowercase, even though Strong Bad does. --Jay (Talk) 02:01, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks! I didn't get an answer on that! So... what gets capitalized? Proper nouns like Nick at Nite? —AbdiViklas 02:07, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Anything that would normally be capitalized, in general: proper nouns, first words of sentences, and, of course, anything Strong Bad writes in AAAAAALL CAPS!!! {said in the same fashion as "SOOOO GOOD!"} --Jay (Talk) 02:11, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
What about surprising instances; e.g. in the 'toon proper Manolios capitalizes all of his business, "Manolios Ugly One's Lectro-Pawn," but in the easter egg he leaves "Lectro-Pawn" capped and uncaps the rest? Or maybe at that point it's getting too nitpicky. —AbdiViklas 02:14, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Rant re TGS 10

{The STUFF'd fact about the Coach's voice not being Strong Bad's prompted the following entry. Jay quite rightfully got it off the STUFF page, which is hardly the place for it, but I was kind of fond of it, so I moved it here.}
     This is another of those "4th Wall" issues that tend to get me talking at length. I can feel it coming.
     As something Strong Bad authors, TGS is a fiction within the fiction Strong Bad exists in. Since its origins in comic, it's been in some ways moving away from an awareness that it's being created by Strong Bad and bleeding into the exterior H*R world (by being listed on Toons, for instance). The increasing frequency of voices that don't sound like Strong Bad would fit this trend (or you could argue they're simply Matt running out of voices).
     On the other hand, several recent episodes have contained reminders of Strong Bad's authorship; he wrote himself into Episode 9, and now—now—we have the first appearance of the exterior H*R world in a TGS episode. Although this would seem to contribute to the "bleed" in the previous paragraph, it in fact does the latter; it emphasizes TGS as an interior fiction when we see it lying there on the table. (Of course Strong Bad's makey outy action just throws the whole thing for a loop: first he draws himself into the interior fiction, then causes his representation in that world to interact with its characters, then interacts himself across the existential boundary.) The relative reality (within H*R) of TGS wobbles dramatically during this episode: Strong Sad reduces it to "looose leaf," while Strong Bad gets drawn into its fictional reality (figuratively and literally). The introduction of color and fancier animation is no accident, either; they of course heighten the perceived reality of the TGS universe. Enough to make all our minds spin 360 degrees.
     So where does that leave me on this vote? Honestly, I dunno. This is sure as heck not the first time (Mr. Pitters, the vultures that eat him, and others are arguably un-Strong-Bad-like), but whether such voices are in fact not Strong Bad has to do with how rigid the authorial connection of Strong Bad to TGS has become. If anything, this episode simultaneously weakens and cements that bond. So.... NO. —AbdiViklas 02:07, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

STUFF nuances

Hey AbdiViklas (I'm still not used to that). The instructions on the standards page read: "If there's any reasonable doubt, ... please add it to the Talk page or the STUFF page before adding it to the article." Well, that's exactly what Kookykman did, so I don't think it's necessary to list that on the STUFF page. Also, the comments section isn't really for communicating with specific users. That's one of the reasons we don't sign comments, to keep a little distance between the comments and the commenter (and so that we don't degrade into personal attacks (we used to have a huge problem with that)). Perhaps your comments to Kookykman would be better suited for his talk page. Just a thought. All in all, you're getting the hang of it... just remember, in STUFF, the shorter, the better. This is kind of changing the subject, but while I'm thinking about it, you should join us in the IRC chatroom sometime. It's much easier to get to know folks, and one can ask questions to his or her heart's content. — It's dot com 02:24, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip! Yeah, the difference between "Talk" and "STUFF" hasn't been entirely clear to me. And yeah, I'd love to hang out on IRC, except that I really ought not to spend even as much time on the Wiki as I do, and can't really bring myself to justify IRC time. Maybe around Thanksgiving break or the likes! —AbdiViklas 20:48, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for the welcome.

I've actually been around for a while here, (and was at Wikipedia before that) but I guess I brought some attention to myself by STUFFing that fact. I wasn't expecting an acceptance, which is why I STUFFed it instead of putting it on the page. Thank you for your kindness in handling the matter.--The Kooky One(talk) 12:31, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Cool; it's not the first time I've welcomed a non-newcomer, but I figure better that than accidentally let a real newcomer go unwelcomed. I'm big on the whole idea of being "welcoming," obviously. Thanks for responding! —AbdiViklas 20:50, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Note to Self

Cheat talk standardized through Pumpkival. AbdiViklas 03:40, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Duffrence

Can you make a Hilary Duff reference????? RHRN the Zerg Jigglypuff

If you mean say something about her on my user page, probably not. But you could mention her on your own user page! Just read HRWiki:User page. (But make sure it doesn't turn into a Hillary Duff fansite; it should mostly be related to the wiki, but mentioning her as one of your interests is appropriate.) —AbdiViklas 22:06, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

No no no! I mean without insulting her like TBC? RHRN

Sorry--I still don't understand. (By the way, I have nothing against Hillary Duff; I'm 25, though, and a little old to be enthusiastic about her "hawtness.") Also, unrelatedly, you can sign your name real nifty-like by typing ~~~~! Three leaves your name, four your name plus the time (like I'm about to do), and five is just the time. Here I go now. —AbdiViklas 22:21, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

I understand. You're not the one insulting her. That's the point. And I wouldn't. RHRN the Zerg Jigglypuff. Make sure accounts that do insult Hilary Duff blocked until they stop for a week.


slight mistake

Just wanted to let you know, you accidentally copied your User page onto Witchesbrew82's talk page.—Exhibit A 23:15, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Wow—thanks for picking that up. (By the way, is there any rule against creating user pages that simply redirect to another wiki?) —AbdiViklas 23:18, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
None at all. Rogue Leader / (my talk) 23:23, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Dude...

I have been a member of the Fanstuff HRWiki for the longest time, I know the rules.--Witchesbrew82 23:25, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Cool. Didn't mean to offend! (Also, I didn't notice that that was our Fanstuff; I thought it was just some random H*R site.) —AbdiViklas 23:28, 16 October 2005 (UTC)


Thanks

Im glad that you were the first person to see me, so your objective of a teacher is verry cool, in fact im a bit of a comic maker and inventor, so anywhey tanks a l07! --Ed500 12:23, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the thanks! Do you know about the related fanstuff wiki? If you have H*R-related comics, you can share them there! —AbdiViklas 12:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for welcoming me. I thought that was very nice of you. I'm adding you to my favorite users list. I've been looking around the wiki for months now and only just created an account, so I know what some things are, but not much. Anyways, thanks. -Brightstar Shiner

Cool. Yeah, I used the Wiki for a good year and a half without really doing much editing. By the way, you can sign your name simply by typing ~~~~; it makes it link to your user page. Three tildes yields just your name; four is name plus date (as I'm about to do), and five is just the date. —AbdiViklas 01:07, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
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