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I was just wondering why you or any of the other mods aren't making a big stink about the Sebastian Coe fun fact currently on the STUFF page. It's a big coincidence, even moreso than the infamous Change Of Pace fun fact that you and I fought over, and yet no one is saying anything. Just wanted to know what the deal was. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 22:44, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
I was just wondering why you or any of the other mods aren't making a big stink about the Sebastian Coe fun fact currently on the STUFF page. It's a big coincidence, even moreso than the infamous Change Of Pace fun fact that you and I fought over, and yet no one is saying anything. Just wanted to know what the deal was. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 22:44, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:It isn't really the job of us "mods" to make a stink about content. Sysops perform maintenance and help keep people in line, but in questions of content our vote counts the same as everybody else. (That's the theory anyway. We all know that it's not completely true. But it's something to strive for.) I can't (and wouldn't) speak for Jay, but I'm not completely convinced this item is wrong. ''(I'm not convinced it's right, either, which is why I haven't voted. In fact, looking at the page, I see that a lot of people with good heads on their shoulders are still on the fence.)'' And what does the item really say? "'Seb' may be a reference..." Well, okay, it may be a reference. Everyone who is voting to accept it (and I stress again that I don't necessarily agree with them) knows that it's not ''certainly'' a reference, just that it ''may'' be. Ordinarily, we nip "may be" facts in the bud, and for good reason. Most of them are total rubbish. But we have to be flexible enough to allow such a fact to make it through the process if enough people agree with it (and, at last count, it's lopsided by a 4-to-1 margin). And doing so doesn't mean that the process is broken, or that everyone has suddenly gone mad. I'm not trying to argue the merits for or against this particular fact. All I'm saying is that how this particular vote goes is not a good indicator of whether nor not the world is ending. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:24, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:It isn't really the job of us "mods" to make a stink about content. Sysops perform maintenance and help keep people in line, but in questions of content our vote counts the same as everybody else. (That's the theory anyway. We all know that it's not completely true. But it's something to strive for.) I can't (and wouldn't) speak for Jay, but I'm not completely convinced this item is wrong. ''(I'm not convinced it's right, either, which is why I haven't voted. In fact, looking at the page, I see that a lot of people with good heads on their shoulders are still on the fence.)'' And what does the item really say? "'Seb' may be a reference..." Well, okay, it may be a reference. Everyone who is voting to accept it (and I stress again that I don't necessarily agree with them) knows that it's not ''certainly'' a reference, just that it ''may'' be. Ordinarily, we nip "may be" facts in the bud, and for good reason. Most of them are total rubbish. But we have to be flexible enough to allow such a fact to make it through the process if enough people agree with it (and, at last count, it's lopsided by a 4-to-1 margin). And doing so doesn't mean that the process is broken, or that everyone has suddenly gone mad. I'm not trying to argue the merits for or against this particular fact. All I'm saying is that how this particular vote goes is not a good indicator of whether nor not the world is ending. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:24, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
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::I understand, IDC, but the thing is such a stink was made about the other fact, which I believe had more of a factual basis than this one, and it was not put up for whatever reason. It would just seem awfully hypocritical to let one that is an actual coincidence stand and b**ch and moan about another one that wasn't as clear cut. (I know you didn't do it, IDC, but Jay did, and that's why I put this here.) --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 01:23, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

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Sysop duties 8/27/05

Thanks, Jay. Thank you, thank you. How do you like that {{delete}} template It's dot com and I collaborated on? Kind of makes it easier to delete because you don't have to enter in a reason manually, huh? Speaking of blocking that David Brown spammer, here is another IP that has been used the past few days: 82.67.192.173. Thanks again for cleaning up. —BazookaJoe 16:36, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

True dat. I'd seen that guy in the past but for some reason thought he'd already been blocked. I'm gonna run a check on his IP address before deciding to block the range or just the single address. --Jay (Talk) 16:39, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Oh, and my computer's not running this site at full speed; last night, it even 509'd me (heck, I'm surprised I can use it now!) I think it may go down again by the end of the month... --Jay (Talk) 16:40, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)
Don't worry, it's not your computer running slow; it's the server. Everybody was 509'd for a short while last night. I was sleeping. Glad it came back up. —BazookaJoe 16:43, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)
I know why it's running slow; I guess I just wasn't clear (this computer's only a couple of months old, so it probably wouldn't be running slowly under normal conditions.) I almost wish it had stayed 509'd for real, as then Willy on Wheels (the moron I suspect is responsible for the page move vandalism) wouldn't have been able to do anything. --Jay (Talk) 16:47, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Halloween Costumes - Three Extra?

Hey Jay, I know this is kinda looking a ways back, but I just realized now that you added three alternate costumes to the Costumes page, from a 'secret page'. I was just wondering where you found that, hopefully to add a link or something. Thanks! Thunderbird 19:33, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

This page, which is already linked on Secret Pages. Also see Talk:Marzipan. --Jay (Talk) 19:41, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Thanks Jay.I did check secret pages, but I just did Ctr+F, and searched for halloween. The link is much appreciated. Thunderbird 19:58, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)
I think I'd done that once before. Yeah, "Halloween" definitely should have been somewhere in the description. Ah well. --Jay (Talk) 20:03, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

RACIST!!!!!!!!

You blocked somebody just because they have a Japanese screenname unblock 'em or I'll tell Jimbo Wales on the big wikpedia

That user happened to be a troll. Jay was correct to block them. And we don't have anything to do with Jimbo or Wikipedia. We just use the same software. -- Tom 21:19, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

What was his name? I wanna translate it, see if it means anything mean. --TotalSpaceshipGirl3

Look on the block log at 17:00, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC) (the time shows up as your local time). You can't miss it. Oh, and if you know Greek, you can do the one two lines up, as well. — It's dot com 19:47, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

The Japanesse one roughly translates into "King woman of shining of rainbow", I am working on the Greek one now. --TotalSpaceshipGirl3

The Greek one roughly translates into "utmost cows" --TotalSpaceshipGirl3

RACIST AGIAN!!!!

You blocked -Erson just because he's gay (which he openly admits on the brianrietta discussion right. please clarify if you didn't. but until then you are guilty until proven innocent

User:-Erson was a page move troll. If you bother Jay again, I'm going to have to block you for personally attacking him. -- Tom 21:21, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)
To clarify, there was a page-move troll who impersonated actual members. You're therefore thinking of someone else. (Also, racism wouldn't apply here, BTW.) — It's dot com 21:23, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Yes, both blocked members were trolls. I found the user name for the first one unreadable (my computer does not display Japanese fonts; for all I know he could have been swearing in Japanese and I'd have had no clue) but the real reason for blocking him was his trolling. The latter was a troll commonly known as Willy on Wheels who impersonated -erson (note the lowercase e) and about fifty other people (notice that I also blocked one "J ay", but clearly I'm not going to block myself). -erson is not blocked and has done nothing worth blocking him over as far as I've seen (I'm not homophobic and don't care about his sexual orientation in the least.) YOU, on the other hand... --Jay (Talk) 00:32, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Undelete

Jay, could you please undelete User talk:Be's careful? A WoW sockpuppet with that username created that, and I would like to keep it as evidence of who he is. —BazookaJoe 01:10, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I'm personally against it, as the name has been blocked indefinitely and WoW couldn't use it again if he wanted to. But I did it anyway. --Jay (Talk) 01:21, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)
IMO, registered trolls' user pages should not be deleted, unless they contain obscene content. I also didn't want JoeyDay to delete all of the impersonation accounts (but it's too late now), just in case I decide to make a WoW template. I was also going to tell you that his accounts here are logged on Wikipedia, but I can see you've already noticed that. —BazookaJoe 01:32, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Not all of his accounts - the impersonations are absent. --Jay (Talk) 01:35, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)
The impersonation accounts no longer exist here, so I, thinking like a computer, decided it didn't matter. —BazookaJoe 01:37, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Anyway, since most of WoW's edits are page moves, they don't show up on our Contributions pages, so even if the user names were never deleted, there wouldn't be any evidence that he did do any wrongdoing except in our own memories. --Jay (Talk) 01:37, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Insult to Insult

Jay, your comment about me sounds very insulting. "Dont'cha like me?" (trogga)

It wasn't meant to be very insulting, but you have been known to delete facts or information from pages with no consensus, and after you've already made the very changes and had them reverted. I have a tendency to be blunt, I admit, but I calls 'em as I sees 'em. --Jay (Talk) 02:16, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Blue Jay

Hey, Jay! Just so you know, your racist friend has just made fun of you in a sad, sad, way. Rogue Leader / (my talk) 03:04, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)

To elaborate, he made this edit and moved Homsar's Main Page to Homsar Main Page on theon wheeles. It's all in the past now. —BazookaJoe 03:15, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Homsar... main... page... on... WHAT?! Tell me it's not... --Jay (Talk) 06:08, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)

68.200.46.214

Jay, 68.200.46.214 is a garden variety troll, and has made a few edits, including a vulgar one to strongbadman's user page [1]. Should he be added to WikiTroll? — Lapper (talk) 21:21, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

No need, I'll look into it and take care of him. --Jay (Talk) 21:21, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Okay, just wondering. The edits were minor anyway. — Lapper (talk) 21:24, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Trolll from HRFWiki!

The troll Marshie Man trolled me, as an I.P address. How do I know it was him? His user page said marshie man lives. And he, was from the HRFWiki. Thanks for taking care of that. H*R 700

I actually haven't been on the site lately that much, and there are other sysops around. I also have no jurisdiction over the Fanstuff Wiki. But if someone else hasn't, I'll check it out. --Jay (Talk) 20:45, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Oh dear! Someone has deleted the entire Fanstuff Wiki database! Oh wait, that's just Tom, upgrading. — It's dot com 20:47, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Uh... okay? This guy was a real troll, and left unblocked, so I did the 24 hour thing since it was pointed out to me. --Jay (Talk) 20:48, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Oh, I thought he was reporting trolling on the fanstuff. I went there to see, and there was no data there. — It's dot com
No, no. I think he was just informing me that he was a user on the fanstuff Wiki, probably in hopes that I'd block him there too or something. --Jay (Talk) 20:54, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)
No, nothing like that. I jsut wanted to point out that he was on the Fanstuff wiki, before. I know you don't have a user, there. H * R 7 0 0

Why

Why'd you delete the Teen Girl Squad characters page? I was about to make an edit! And what happened to my account!? --daunrealist

Never mind, my account disappeared for a second. But why the deletion?
I stupidly hit the "delete" button instead of "Edit," and didn't pay attention (I was reverting.) Oops! Fixed it now. Sorry about that. :[ --Jay (Talk) 21:19, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Oh, ok.

207.27.152.6

Actually, I thought he was on to something there—"I too miss video games?" Surely something better than that can be found. —AbdiViklas 05:16, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps, but simply making it "The Olda Boys" isn't really any better. --Jay (Talk) 05:23, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Howdy there, Jay...

I was just wondering why you or any of the other mods aren't making a big stink about the Sebastian Coe fun fact currently on the STUFF page. It's a big coincidence, even moreso than the infamous Change Of Pace fun fact that you and I fought over, and yet no one is saying anything. Just wanted to know what the deal was. --ISlayedTheKerrek 22:44, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

It isn't really the job of us "mods" to make a stink about content. Sysops perform maintenance and help keep people in line, but in questions of content our vote counts the same as everybody else. (That's the theory anyway. We all know that it's not completely true. But it's something to strive for.) I can't (and wouldn't) speak for Jay, but I'm not completely convinced this item is wrong. (I'm not convinced it's right, either, which is why I haven't voted. In fact, looking at the page, I see that a lot of people with good heads on their shoulders are still on the fence.) And what does the item really say? "'Seb' may be a reference..." Well, okay, it may be a reference. Everyone who is voting to accept it (and I stress again that I don't necessarily agree with them) knows that it's not certainly a reference, just that it may be. Ordinarily, we nip "may be" facts in the bud, and for good reason. Most of them are total rubbish. But we have to be flexible enough to allow such a fact to make it through the process if enough people agree with it (and, at last count, it's lopsided by a 4-to-1 margin). And doing so doesn't mean that the process is broken, or that everyone has suddenly gone mad. I'm not trying to argue the merits for or against this particular fact. All I'm saying is that how this particular vote goes is not a good indicator of whether nor not the world is ending. — It's dot com 23:24, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
I understand, IDC, but the thing is such a stink was made about the other fact, which I believe had more of a factual basis than this one, and it was not put up for whatever reason. It would just seem awfully hypocritical to let one that is an actual coincidence stand and b**ch and moan about another one that wasn't as clear cut. (I know you didn't do it, IDC, but Jay did, and that's why I put this here.) --ISlayedTheKerrek 01:23, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
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