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[edit] Delete

I'm with anonny on this one. The concept is too vague and at least partially covered in Ages of Characters. And, frankly, of the three examples on the page, none really strike me as "confusion" of any sort (the best I can say is the word "kids" in the slumber party example, if you take it too literally). If you really wanted to keep this page, L.U.R.N. would be far and away a better example than any of these, as would Marzipan's letter in A Decemberween Mackerel. --Jay (Talk) 02:28, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Obe Kaybee. StarFox 05:23, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
this is covered in ages of characters. - 17:26, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
I'm neutral about this page's existence. I disagree with the statement that it's covered in Ages of Characters — that page is about the broad subject of the characters' ages, while this is specifically about characters thinking they are younger or older than they really are, similar to Gender Confusion or Identity Confusion. But I wouldn't object to its deletion either. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 23:55, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
Well, if you're putting it that way, then I'd add entries like how Reynold is treated like a child in Commandos in the Classroom and only drinks Warm Jenkins in Decemberween Dangeresque. Or how Coach Z goes to juvenile prison in Play Date and is tried as a minor in Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 17.2. Or how Strong Mad acts throughout Play Date. Or how the King of Town acts like a defiant teenager in I Killed Pom Pom. Basically, any time one of the grown-ups suddenly starts acting like a child for humor's sake. I wouldn't know much about kids pretending to be adults since there aren't many children in these cartoons. -- 22:44, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
I still say delete. Just because someone acts childish doesn’t mean they are confused about how old they are. - 00:23, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
Merge with AoC (no, not the game that is most definitely not abbreviated as that). RickTommy (edits) 12:56, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
This is a notable subject, and there are so many examples, with more and more being added every day. So I'm changing my vote to a definitive keep. This is different enough from AoC to merit its own article. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 06:04, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
I fail to see how it's possible to confuse the age of characters that don't have established ages, a fact that is already sufficiently covered on Ages of Characters. Seems to me that anything put on this page would necessarily be either duplicating AoC or forming its conclusion on a wholly-speculation-based assumed age for a character and therefore in direct contradiction with AoC. Definite delete from me. — Defender1031*Talk 07:02, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
Everyone but Garblegdrc says delete. Seems like pretty good consensus. - 19:29, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
I'm not so sure. We're still trying to figure out exactly what kind of niche this page holds. The Ages of Characters page is a speculation page that uses evidence to try and peg each of the main characters' approximate ages. Age Confusion appears to be a page where characters don't act their age. Heebles? -- 23:54, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
Yes, but again, how can they act "not their age" when they canonically don't HAVE set ages? — Defender1031*Talk 03:36, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
We may not know what their ages are, but we do know what their ages aren't. Mr. Pitters and The King of Town are not teenagers. Coach Z is not a minor. Homestar is not a child. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 06:36, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
That's like saying that The Cheat isn't a 7-foot-tall, 57-year-old Scandinavian miner named Ilko Skevüld who was born on April 18. (But if he's supposed to be an adult who smokes and sells toner door-to-door, then Strong Bad sure does baby him in bedtime story). -- 17:44, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
Ages of Characters lists evidence of each character's age. Age confusion lists examples that go against the evidence. For example, the first page portrays Coach Z as an old man, while this page shows him being referred to as a minor. By deleting this page, that information would be removed from the wiki. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 23:15, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
I've been going over both these pages and non of the refrences overlap. Ages of Characters is trying to look for circumstantial evidance for how old characters are (Drinking alcohol, having a job, etc.) while this page is listing times where age have been subverted for a comedic effect. We know Homestar is not a preschooler, so seeing him sitting in a tiny plastic chair is funny. Repeat this enough and you have a running gag of Marzipan treating Homestar as a child. Broaden it a bit and you see Coach Z being creepy, KoT trying to be hip, and so on. I vote a hard keep here. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 09:56, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Then the scope of this page is not age confusion. It should be called something like “characters being treated in ways inconsistent with their presumed age”. - 15:27, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
It fits well with Gender Confusion and Identity Confusion. As in, sometimes the confused party is the character itself, and sometimes it's another character. I don't find a reason to rename this page. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 16:12, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
I also think we should keep this page as per Elcool. Same as with the rationale for the page's title. I think it's descriptive enough of the issue at hand. --Stux 10:22, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
I have removed the TBD template. I believe there's enough consensus not to merge or delete. (This includes recent discussions on this page.) --Stux 00:55, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding Merging

As the creator of the article, if you want to merge it go ahead. Wolf O'Donnel 02:58, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

I don't think Ages of Characters and this page quite cover the same topic. That page is about the speculative and sometimes contradicting evidence surrounding the character's ages in the body of work. While this page is about how characters act in a manner that contradicts what their apparent ages should be. I don't think these should be merged together as the "gag" being described is sufficiently different. Also if the instances are merged per-character, the gag concept as a whole would be lost in the other page, and adding a new section to the other page seems like an unnecessary bolt-on topic to me. I don't think it hurts to keep these as separate pages. --Stux 13:36, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
I don’t think it should necessarily be merged but I think it should have a more descriptive name. - 14:26, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Both are great ideas. Wolf O'Donnel 06:48, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

[edit] New title

How do you like the new title? Sorry if I should've asked first. I have a tendency to get too excited. Wolf O'Donnel 06:57, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Page moves are hard to revert, so it's usually not encouraged to move things without discussion for names that haven't been fully settled. The title isn't bad and it's fairly descriptive of the topic. Personally, I liked "Age Confusion" because it kept the Gender Confusion and Identity Confusion pattern. --Stux 11:07, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
It’s descriptive but it’s a little longwinded methinks. I think just "Age Confusion and Inconsistency" works better. Even still the title should at least be properly capitalized. TheOneAndOnlyDanky 12:57, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
I personally thought "Age Confusion" was descriptive enough, and follows the pattern of other pages as Stux mentioned. The current title seems needlessly long. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 22:57, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
I'm also good with "Age Confusion and Inconsistency" which is a nice compromise between short and descriptive. Either case I support reverting back to the original or using that. --Stux 00:49, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
Ok the capitalization was bugging me, so I changed it at least for now. But yeah I agree with Stux. TheOneAndOnlyDanky 02:34, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
Um, given that the discussion was still ongoing, and leaning towards the original title or something like the original, I believe the move was a little unnecessary... ^_^; There was also that hard to revert thing I mentioned earlier... --Stux 02:42, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

There, I fixed it with a new move. Wolf O'Donnel 07:06, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

I like “Age Inconsistencies”, or confusion and inconsistencies, if we need to compromise. - 07:46, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
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