Talk:Strong Bad and Coach Z's Relationship

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Look, SB and Coach Z don't interact much, off the top of my head, I can think of about four noteable interactions, and because of that, I vote that we delete it.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 07:56, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Look, SB and Coach Z don't interact much, off the top of my head, I can think of about four noteable interactions, and because of that, I vote that we delete it.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 07:56, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
:So, I started the page, and as my discussion at the category talk page goes, it's that I think it could be potentially interesting.  As to why it could be interesting, well, I'll expound.  I agree that characters that rarely interact should not have an relationship page, but I don't think this one is quite that rare.  Further, I think the interesting thing about relationship pages is that they highlight significant variations from the norm.  For example, Strong Bad and Marzipan interact less rarely, but the interactions have very few deviations from "Strong Bad *annoy or prank* Marzipan:  I really don't like 'im at all."  I think there are at least a few examples of SB's interactions with Coach Z, however, to be dynamic.  Does that make any sense?  Anyway, I guess I should also say that consensus seems to be that "three instances" of an occurance warrants a new page, and the poster above me claims that there are at least 4, so that's reason to keep it, in my opinion. [[User:134.174.140.208|134.174.140.208]] 01:02, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
:So, I started the page, and as my discussion at the category talk page goes, it's that I think it could be potentially interesting.  As to why it could be interesting, well, I'll expound.  I agree that characters that rarely interact should not have an relationship page, but I don't think this one is quite that rare.  Further, I think the interesting thing about relationship pages is that they highlight significant variations from the norm.  For example, Strong Bad and Marzipan interact less rarely, but the interactions have very few deviations from "Strong Bad *annoy or prank* Marzipan:  I really don't like 'im at all."  I think there are at least a few examples of SB's interactions with Coach Z, however, to be dynamic.  Does that make any sense?  Anyway, I guess I should also say that consensus seems to be that "three instances" of an occurance warrants a new page, and the poster above me claims that there are at least 4, so that's reason to keep it, in my opinion. [[User:134.174.140.208|134.174.140.208]] 01:02, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
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::::3 does not cut it. '''Delort'''! {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 21:07, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
::::3 does not cut it. '''Delort'''! {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 21:07, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::I'd be interested to see what we come up with on this. My immediate inclination is to think this topic is worth inclusion, but I'd need to see the final product to be sure. '''Hold off on deletion.''' {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:24, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::I'd be interested to see what we come up with on this. My immediate inclination is to think this topic is worth inclusion, but I'd need to see the final product to be sure. '''Hold off on deletion.''' {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:24, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
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::::::Solid '''keep''' after expansion. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:17, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
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:Personally, I think this article should be kept. I find it interesting how Strong Bad seems to hate Coach Z, and yet still like him at times, and how Coach Z is indifferent to all of it. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 05:27, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
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::I agree that there is a consistent relationship between Strong Bad and Coach Z, and the list of appearances seems to be shaping up nicely. '''Keep'''. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:27, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
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::I would like to add that I think that this article should be '''kept'''. I think that people would like to see developments in character interactions and whether or not there are longstanding patterns that exist. In addition, rare interactions are also good to include because of the novelty of the event. {{User:Justy Hakubi}}
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:::If we keep [[Strong Bad and Bubs's Relationship]], we should keep Strong Bad and Coach Z's Relationship too. Also vice versa. It doesn't make sense otherwise. '''Keep.''' {{User:The Chort/sig}} 19:55, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
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::::If no sysops bother to read the other topics here yet, please know that I already voted to '''keep'''.  If you do bother do read the other topics do not count my vote twice. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 04:58, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
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:::::Votes don't count. Good arguments establish discussion and consensus. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:02, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
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== Image ==
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<gallery>
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Image:sbemail44.PNG|Fish Show starring Strong Bad and Coach Z
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Image:sbemail128.png|"Don't forget the lyrical rampages me and Coach Z are always going on."
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Image:169lostdvd.PNG|"'Sup, hourly wage?"
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Image:SB CoachZ drop a beat.png|"Dropping the occasional beat."
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</gallery>
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I would like to '''keep''' this article if space is not an issue and would like to throw off a few images I was thinking of. (the captions relate to their relationship, not just the particular toons) Another image I considered, but was unable to find, was the scene of them playing together in [[new hands]].  Which one should go on the article? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:06, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
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:Now, actually adding the gallery to the article was far from what I had in mind.  I wanted us to choose 1 picture to form the thumbnail for the article. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 14:00, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
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::Thought we should have the [[new hands]] image you were talking about for reference.  I think I like the "lyrical rampages" image best, from the given choices.  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 16:16, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
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==Class 3 Dark Wizard==
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Should the part from [[magic trick]] stay where it is or go in the conflict section? After all, you can see in the easter egg that Coach Z wants to "defeat" Strong Bad. {{User:Strongkinghomsarsmith/sig}} 19:32, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Inclusion

Look, SB and Coach Z don't interact much, off the top of my head, I can think of about four noteable interactions, and because of that, I vote that we delete it.--~ SlipStream 07:56, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

So, I started the page, and as my discussion at the category talk page goes, it's that I think it could be potentially interesting. As to why it could be interesting, well, I'll expound. I agree that characters that rarely interact should not have an relationship page, but I don't think this one is quite that rare. Further, I think the interesting thing about relationship pages is that they highlight significant variations from the norm. For example, Strong Bad and Marzipan interact less rarely, but the interactions have very few deviations from "Strong Bad *annoy or prank* Marzipan: I really don't like 'im at all." I think there are at least a few examples of SB's interactions with Coach Z, however, to be dynamic. Does that make any sense? Anyway, I guess I should also say that consensus seems to be that "three instances" of an occurance warrants a new page, and the poster above me claims that there are at least 4, so that's reason to keep it, in my opinion. 134.174.140.208 01:02, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
If there really are "four noteable interactions", please name them and explain why they are notable. – The Chort 21:02, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
I can come up with 3, so far, myself. I put up two already, I'll put up the third after class. Also, you came off as rather condescending. It's unnecessary. 134.174.140.208 21:05, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
3 does not cut it. Delort! User talk:Sam the Man Sam the Man 21:07, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
I'd be interested to see what we come up with on this. My immediate inclination is to think this topic is worth inclusion, but I'd need to see the final product to be sure. Hold off on deletion. Heimstern Läufer 21:24, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Solid keep after expansion. Heimstern Läufer 05:17, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Personally, I think this article should be kept. I find it interesting how Strong Bad seems to hate Coach Z, and yet still like him at times, and how Coach Z is indifferent to all of it. —Guard Duck talk 05:27, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
I agree that there is a consistent relationship between Strong Bad and Coach Z, and the list of appearances seems to be shaping up nicely. Keep. Trey56 22:27, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
I would like to add that I think that this article should be kept. I think that people would like to see developments in character interactions and whether or not there are longstanding patterns that exist. In addition, rare interactions are also good to include because of the novelty of the event. User:Justy Hakubi
If we keep Strong Bad and Bubs's Relationship, we should keep Strong Bad and Coach Z's Relationship too. Also vice versa. It doesn't make sense otherwise. Keep.The Chort 19:55, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
If no sysops bother to read the other topics here yet, please know that I already voted to keep. If you do bother do read the other topics do not count my vote twice. Bad Bad Guy 04:58, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Votes don't count. Good arguments establish discussion and consensus. — It's dot com 05:02, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image

I would like to keep this article if space is not an issue and would like to throw off a few images I was thinking of. (the captions relate to their relationship, not just the particular toons) Another image I considered, but was unable to find, was the scene of them playing together in new hands. Which one should go on the article? Bad Bad Guy 00:06, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Now, actually adding the gallery to the article was far from what I had in mind. I wanted us to choose 1 picture to form the thumbnail for the article. Bad Bad Guy 14:00, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Thought we should have the new hands image you were talking about for reference. I think I like the "lyrical rampages" image best, from the given choices. OptimisticFool 16:16, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Class 3 Dark Wizard

Should the part from magic trick stay where it is or go in the conflict section? After all, you can see in the easter egg that Coach Z wants to "defeat" Strong Bad. Strongkinghomsarsmith 19:32, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

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