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[edit] Filmographies

I believe the Strong Bad E-mails are now all updated with filmographies. If someone would like to double check, that'd be cool. - Grumblebaker [9 Oct '04 00:27 CDT]

I have made the Category: Strong Bad Email a sub-cat of the Strong Bad Filmography. This is much more logical and reduces clutter in the Category:Strong Bad Filmography. This means all emails should be categorized as email only and not directly in the filmography. Drhaggis 09:44, 10 Oct 2004 (MST)
I have gone through all the Strong Bad Emails and removed the Category: Strong Bad Filmography from each. - Drhaggis 11:05, 10 Oct 2004 (MST)
Does this mean that everything's done with respect to emails & filmographies, and thus can be removed from the project list? - Grumblebaker 11 Oct '04 19:26 CDT
Well, I just double checked it, so I am removing the email portion from the project list with regard to filmographies. - Grumblebaker 16 Oct '04 10:25 CDT
The Answering Machines and TGSs are done as well. - Grumblebaker 16 Oct '04 21:20 CDT, edit 23 Oct '04 14:24 CDT

Hey, so thejesterx brought up a good point elsewhere in that there are Strong Bad Emails without Strong Bad and thus should not contribute to his filmography. Should I undo the previous doings? - Grumblebaker 23 Oct '04 14:24 CDT

Yes, I think that this should be undone for that very reason. — InterruptorJones[[]]

-There is one SBemail without SB. If that is more confusing than having 100+ items in the Category:Strong Bad Email AND those same 100+ items duplicated in the Category: Strong Bad Filmography than so be it. I disagree with this, but the community has spoken. I will work towards adding the SB Filmography category to all appropriate emails.-Drhaggis 09:45, 26 Oct 2004 (MST)

I just fixed cast lists in all the main pages. Should these be put in filmography categories? I can't find any other places where the cast lists / filmographies are not finished. Aurora Szalinski 15:08, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)

Went ahead and did this. Do we need filmographies for all minor characters? I noticed a few for characters which only appear in one or two places (Blue Laser Babies, Yello Dello) but I am not sure if this is standard.
Good question, and thanks for asking. We generally do not use cat filographies for minor characters. For example, articles like General Tso's Chicken or The Grape Fairie just have a listing in the article of appearances. -- Tom 09:20, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)
Cool, thanks. Aurora Szalinski 09:23, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

[edit] Thumbnailing Pictures

Should this be a Wiki Project? It seems like everyone is doing it anyway. fahooglewitz1077

It is listed under the "Standardizing Pages" header. — wikisig.gif Joey (talk·edits) 09:05, 26 Oct 2004 (MST)

I can't seem to be able to do it! No Toppings

[edit] Organizing Projects

We need someone (I might do it later today) to go through our projects and figure out which ones are done and precisely where work still requires completion. It would be great to have little charts under each project so people know right where to go.

As an example, for a project involving Strong Bad Emails:

  • Complete: 1-95, 103, 116
  • Incomplete: 96-102, 104-115

This gets a little harder for most of our projects because they aren't limited to any one category of pages on our wiki. We should come up with a unified, standardized way of notating which pages on the wiki have been done. Ideas? — wikisig.gif Joey (talk·edits) 09:24, 26 Oct 2004 (MST)

[edit] Places

At the bottom of each "Place" page, there should be a section to show which toons the place appears in. The toons are mostly mentioned in the paragraph, anyway, but not always.

[edit] How does one flag?

Hello! I'm relatively new to the Wiki, so even though I've found a page with an external image that can't be thumbnailed (Teen Girl Squad Issue 4}, what's the proper way for me to flag it as such? --FortyTwo 19:37, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)

Heh heh, well you certainly flagged it just now, didn't you? Though, I think Drhaggis might have meant something else. -- Tom 19:42, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
And fixed. -- Tom 19:45, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
Awexome! --FortyTwo 19:47, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)

[edit] Remind Tom

Since that has already happenned, can we get rid of the remind tom thing? →evin290 05:08, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)

Well, no one ever reminded me. Also, it didn't really matter, since someone recreated the Kobe page before I could undelete it after waiting for a while. I've fixed the note though. -- Tom 23:11, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)

[edit]  ? replacing non-regular characters

I've noticed since the change to the new server that many/all of the special characters in articles have been lost. They appear to me as a question mark (?) instead of the correct character. Is this true for everyone? If so, we should make a project for fixing them. -- Tom 08:25, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

Can you give a sample example page so I can check? Thanks. [[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]] 17:37, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
Happens to me. →[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

[edit] Date

Does anyone else think that 'Date' should be changed to 'Release Date'? I think 'Date' leaves something to be desired, especially with 'Running Time' not simply called 'Time'. Anyone agree with me, and volunteer to start fixing them all? (If I can get a positive vote or two, I'll start doing it tomorrow probably). [[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]] 20:40, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

Sounds good. -- Tom 08:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

[edit] Interwiki

Are there any other shortcuts? Because the links to Wikipedia are shown as interwiki links. Will there be any more (like to the forum, fanstuff, Videlectrix, etc)? EDSMILDE

Right now you can link to fanstuff using the HRFWiki: shortcut. I'm not sure of any others. Kilroy/talk[[]] 18:11, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)

[edit] Split this page up? My proposal: The Stick

How about we keep this page for more technical wiki projects, and have, say, HRWiki:The Stick for wiki discussion that doesn't really fit the notion of a "project". Like the questions and comments that often get dumped on, say, Talk:Main Page. I mean, how much discussion on Talk:Main Page has anything to do with the main page, anyway? :) - furrykef (Talk at me) 12:04, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Already in the works at Talk:Main Page#Refactoring the Main Page. "The Stick" was even the name that we came up with. -- Tom 20:43, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Wow. Great minds think alike? - furrykef (Talk at me)

[edit] Merger

I'm trying to merge the food thing. I might need some help. Also, some of you might find "Army Style Mayo" on the Awwww Gratin potatoes page. This is temporary as I guarrantee to fix it. Amy Whifflepoof

[edit] A Project within a project

I found it difficult/annoying to use this page as a good resource to see what needs to be done. It seemed that most things in here were already done. For that reason, I reorded it so that those searching for a project can find one easier. I R F 14:06, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Makeover

discussion moved to here

[edit] Past tense in plot descriptions

Many entries use past tense when retelling a fact, for example:

In for kids, Homsar's letter of the day was "G". (G)

That's wrong (for example, see [the literary present]). Do you think it's worth a project to correct these mistakes by either hammering was and were in the search bar or editing them when stumbled upon?

Second, if we start this project, should we consider comparing past tense on the h*r-timeline as wrong?

At 1:30, Homsar shuffled from left to right, but later, he's on the left side again (in-toon)
or
In The Luau, Homestar's star is slightly off, although it was centered in past toons. (comparing toons)

Strictly speaking, that's wrong.

What do you think? --PoweredByHomsar 01:46, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure I followed your examples, but I do have this comment: I think we use past tense sometimes because we, er, blur the line between fanstasy and reality (that is, we tend to look at the events of FCUSA as history, not literature). — It's dot com 01:53, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, that's what I covered in my second point, that's fine to me. But back to my first example. Sorry, if it's unclear, I will try again: Stating that Homsar's letter of the day was "G" is wrong, because it still is. You can go and view the toon again and again. It's a static fact that does not imply with any real or imaginary timeline. --PoweredByHomsar 02:36, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Big project, sort of

On this page: Talk:500_The_Cheats at the top is a table. I think that all pages should have that only if they are Toons, games, or any other flash thing that the H*R has.--H*Bad 22:31, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I personally don't think it necessary. The reason that table had been placed there was that there had been an inordinate amount of comments simply talking about whether one liked the cartoon or hated it. Nothing else. This would have inundated the talk page and eclipsed legitimate talk. This is usually not the case for the other toons, and I see nothing wrong with a minor "I liked this toon" comment here and there, as it sometimes happens. --Stux 23:48, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, but aren't you tired of this: "i liek this."?--H*Bad 23:54, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
LOL, Not really, but it's mainly cuz i haven't been paying much attention to such posts. But posting that notice would also make comments like "I think the part where Strong Bad calls the cordless mouse a bar of soap is genious" (not a real comment I just made it up), and that being the end of that thread, disallowed. Most of the rules of this wiki and wikipedia in general, try to be as freeform and liberal as possible, because its maintainers feel people will, in general, exercise wisdom and restraint in their edits. When they do not, of course rules are applied (for a good example see this discussion) even if with a little reluctance. For that one article the comments were a problem, and action had to be taken, but for the rest of the wiki they are not (and I hope it stays that way), and as such I personally see no need to take drastic action. --Stux 19:24, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image Summaries

So i've been noticing a lot that images on the wiki are uploaded with totally unhelpful summaries and then just left there like that. I've seen things like "woah" and "this is weird" and my personal favorite "An image. You'll see what it's for." Summaries that are not descriptive of who and what is in the image, as well as what's going on and what toon it's from make it nearly impossible to search for images. There have been many times that i either need a specific image that is the sort of thing we'd already have up on the wiki, or see an image get uploaded that is probably a duplicate, and i just couldn't find the image because the summaries are so bad. Therefore, I propose we:

  1. Write up a well thought out guideline on how to summarize images, either on one of our existing policy pages or its own page, if there isn't one already
  2. Initiate a project to systematically go through the images and give them summaries based on the aforementioned policy
  3. Get people to join said project
  4. Initiate a committee to monitor new image uploads and correct summaries where needed
  5. Get people to join said committee
  6. Drop my grapes
  7. Uncover that cheat
  8. And finally, not... pidgeons.

What are people's thoughts on such a plan? Or at least the first 5? — Defender1031*Talk 23:33, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

There is one already, albeit very short. Last entry in HRWiki:Image use policy#Specifics. This merely proves that a policy is only as good as the tradition to uphold it. — Defender1031*Talk 23:41, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
[Edit conflict] I'm in favor of at least numbers 2 and 3. Numbers 4 and 5 not so much. Our guideline is pretty simple: "Detailed yet concise description with as many words or phrases linked as appropriate (from toon)" — It's dot com 23:47, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
May I ask why you're not a fan of the committee for monitoring new images? I think it would prevent us from having this problem in the future. — Defender1031*Talk 23:48, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Committees are just things people join; they don't actually do anything. The committees we currently have testify to this. I'm not saying organizing a project and recruiting specific people to help is a bad idea. I'm just saying that creating a standing committee doesn't work in the long term on a wiki our size. — It's dot com 23:53, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Help Wanted

I'm trying to make a "The Poopsmith and The King of Town's Relationship" page but do not have the time to research everything. Could anyone help? Thanks!! ThnikkOwen 23:41, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Category tags

Should people really be allowed to put category tags on fake sandbox articles? It screws up the code and puts the sandbox in Category x. Thy Not Dennis (t/c) 19:47, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

No, category tags should not be placed in sandboxes or on user pages and are removed whenever someone finds them. We already do that. Loafing 19:53, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Oh. I'll keep an eye out. Thy Not Dennis (t/c) 20:28, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Sandbox template

How do you get the text in the sandbox without it showing up in the edit box? I want to know for another wiki. Thy Not Dennis (t/c) 15:03, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

See User:It's dot com/ProjectStaticTopText at Wikipedia. — It's dot com 02:02, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
All right, but it's still not working for me. It's a Wikia wiki, would that make a difference? And is there a way that I can set an editable header for all pages in one namespace? Thy Not Dennis (t/c) 20:26, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Use of this feature requires the ability to add files to the extensions folder and edit LocalSettings.php and pages in the MediaWiki namespace. I don't know whether this is possible for run-of-the-mill wikis at Wikia. — It's dot com 20:34, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Being the head admin (and only contributor) at a mostly failed wikia wiki, i can definitively say that only the wikia staff have access to the source code... you could of course, ask THEM to add the extension. — Defender1031*Talk 20:36, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
All right, I'm a sysop/admin at the other wiki, and I created a header at "MediaWiki:Header-sandbox". It still does nothing. I also created one at "MediaWiki:Header-Sandbox", and still nothing. It says that that's what you have to do, so you might want to update that page, IDC. Unless I'm reading it wrong. Out of curiosity, though, what's your wiki, DeFender? Thy Not Dennis (t/c) 20:40, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
You clearly didn't understand a word that was just said. It says that an extension needs to be added to mediawiki before that will work, and only the wikia staff can do that. And I am 100% sure that my wiki is nothing that would interest you. — Defender1031*Talk 20:43, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Oh, now I get it. And nothing in life is 100%. Tell me anyway. Thy Not Dennis (t/c) 18:11, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Common Sense Project

I should just go ahead and start this. Common Sense should not be explained when it is "too common" (IE: Innards are where you go when you get eaten.) In that respect, you can alto have the project deal with the opposite: When the toon itself explains something that should be common sense (IE: Under Construction.) ColdReactive 00:02, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

HRW:Spoons is what you're thinking about. There is no need for a project, just an awareness not to go all out and list every mundane thing that happens in the toons as we edit articles. --Stux 00:06, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Related to the wiki

Does a project have to be related to the wiki? C-Son-L Sweaters 01:49, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

That's just nonsense. Are you trying to make some sense? How could we have an official project that was not related to the wiki. Everything we deem to be worth doing is related to the wiki by definition. Perhaps you could clarify. — It's dot com 01:57, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Temp-uh-late Request

I have no idea how to make a template or if it's in my privileges, so I came here. Can you make some sort of template for articles with unknown information (ex. this article contains unknown information,you can help the wiki by getting a time machine), it really bothers me that we know so little about dates before 2001 and stuff. I would help compile pages that could use it, for example Scroll Button Songs is missing several dates and a few sounds clips. Thanks! Oh, and it would use this picture
I look so smawt!
. --Image:Homsariconformysig.gifBroncoTroll 03:23, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
I would find a template that closely matches how you want it to look and then copy and paste the code into a new template page (which is just a page in the Template namespace, which anyone can create). Then change the picture and wording to fit what you want. — It's dot com 03:30, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! ...How do I access the codes of other templates? When I try to edit them it just says like {{stub}} or something. --Image:Homsariconformysig.gifBroncoTroll 03:41, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Well, what template would you use as a starting point? — It's dot com 03:44, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Hmm... They're all similar but I like Graw Mad's {{tbd}} template, but like with a gray box and my image (which I could do in the code) and maybe a calligraphy-like font if its allowed. --Image:Homsariconformysig.gifBroncoTroll 03:55, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
That one is actually a really bad example because of how complicated the code is. Is there a similar one you like that's simpler? — It's dot com 03:58, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Wow, they all look the same to me, I just chose it because I thought he looked good with a clipboard even though the picture was going to change. Umm... How about Firebert {{rename}}? --Image:Homsariconformysig.gifBroncoTroll 04:04, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
All right. To keep things simple, I've stripped out the code you won't need and pasted the rest below:
    <div class="boilerplate metadata toccolours" id="cleanup-rewrite" style="margin: .5em 2%; padding: 0 1em; border: 1px solid #fc0; background: #fff9cc">
    {|
    |-
    | style="padding-right: 10px; padding-left: 4px;" | [[File:Your file here|75px]]
    | Your wording here.
    |}
    </div>
Copy that code into a new page Template:templatename. Pick a name that's descriptive yet short and simple. Replace the wording and image in the appropriate spots. Don't use a weird font. The box colors are controlled by the border and background attributes (specifically the part after the number signs). Use show preview. If you get stuck save the page and someone will help you. (By the way, I should probably mention that whether we actually use the finished template is up to the consensus of the wiki.) — It's dot com 04:31, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Just in case, I've uploaded a PNG file of that image that's more crisp.
Tickling his face.
Homestar-Winner (talk) 07:43, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
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