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Wine, Women, and STUFF

"Wine, Women and Song" is the name of a waltz by Johann Strauss II.

From: Halloween Fairstival
Posted on: 20:39, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Arguments for:

Arguments against:

  • He didn't name it "Wine Women and Song" but rather Wein, Weib und Gesang
  • According to the above link, the title "was drawn from an old adage." See revision below.

Additional comments:

  • Isn't this more of an old-timey-type phrase? I've heard my grandpa use it.
  • Max Bialystock (Zero Mostel) uses the phrase in The Producers, as does Wolf J. Flywheel (Groucho Marx) in The Big Store.
    • Please read the link above in "arguments against" before commenting. Strauss predates The Producers, Groucho Marx, and, it is to be hoped, your grandpa, and this phrase predates him.
      • Meh, you can read that article if you want, but its most relevant point is incorporated into the revision below.
  • According to the Wikipedia article about this phrase: It seems to suggest that it's just a phrase, most likely predating the Strauss Waltz.
    • We should note the phrase and its general usage in the article.
      • See revison below.


Votes to accept: Votes to decline:
  1. Heimstern Läufer
  2. B
  3. KookykmanImage:kookysig.gif(t)(c)(r)
  4. AbdiViklas
  5. Lapper (talk)
  6. Elcool (talk)(contribs)
  7. Spell4yr
  8. GWR_Wikisig.gifGWR 2004 TalkContribs
  9. talk Bubsty edits
  10. Mycroft Holmes
  11. I R F

Proposed revision:

The phrase wine, women, and song is from an old adage, "Who loves not wine, women, and song / remains a fool his whole life long."

Arguments for:

  • Cuts through all the TTATOT and gets to the real origin of the phrase, which itself is rather interesting.

Arguments against:

Additional comments:


Votes to accept: Votes to decline:
  1. It's dot com
  2. Spell4yr
  3. DorianGray
  4. GWR_Wikisig.gifGWR 2004 TalkContribs
  5. I R F
  6. Elcool (talk)(contribs)
  7. RatherAnnoying
  8. AbdiViklas
  9. THE SMOKING MONKEY
  10. KookykmanImage:kookysig.gif(t)(c)(r)
  11. Heimstern Läufer
  12. talk Bubsty edits

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