Wine, Women, and STUFF
From: Halloween Fairstival
Posted on: 20:39, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
Arguments for:
Arguments against:
- He didn't name it "Wine Women and Song" but rather Wein, Weib und Gesang
- According to the above link, the title "was drawn from an old adage." See revision below.
Additional comments:
- Isn't this more of an old-timey-type phrase? I've heard my grandpa use it.
- Max Bialystock (Zero Mostel) uses the phrase in The Producers, as does Wolf J. Flywheel (Groucho Marx) in The Big Store.
- Please read the link above in "arguments against" before commenting. Strauss predates The Producers, Groucho Marx, and, it is to be hoped, your grandpa, and this phrase predates him.
- Meh, you can read that article if you want, but its most relevant point is incorporated into the revision below.
- According to the Wikipedia article about this phrase: It seems to suggest that it's just a phrase, most likely predating the Strauss Waltz.
- We should note the phrase and its general usage in the article.
Proposed revision:
The phrase wine, women, and song is from an old adage, "Who loves not wine, women, and song / remains a fool his whole life long."
Arguments for:
- Cuts through all the TTATOT and gets to the real origin of the phrase, which itself is rather interesting.
Arguments against:
Additional comments:
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