Template talk:welcome

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Is it an okay idea to have a template for this? I just put this template here now, so I'm wondering if I should have it for others who don't know what to say when welcoming. --Darklinkskywalker 21:19, 14 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I don't like it. It's just going to make the welcomes even more ridiculously impersonal. Homestar Coder 22:13, 14 Jul 2005 (UTC)

This is what I find (an almost word-for-word copy) on most pages with welcomes on them, so I figured I would just make a template for them to make them quick and easier. —↑_{Darklinkskywalker}|^{Talk_|i did this stuff_}↓

Oh, I know that people just copy this word-for-word anyway, so the template can't really do too much more harm. I'm just saying, I don't like our current system of welcoming. Homestar Coder 23:23, 14 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. We should probably change it around or fix it up a bit. —↑_{Darklinkskywalker}|^{Talk_|i did this stuff_}↓

That's not what I mean. I mean I don't like this cookie-cutter welcome message at all. I'm a proponent of only offering help if people look like they need it, so when I welcome somebody, I just say "welcome" and help them with the specific thing they look to be struggling with. Homestar Coder 19:51, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Oh, okay. I guess. --—↑_{Darklinkskywalker}|^{Talk_|i did this stuff_}↓ 19:12, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I wouldn't really know what they would be struggling with, and lots of non-sysops probably wouldn't know either. --—↑_{Darklinkskywalker}|^{Talk_|i did this stuff_}↓ 22:23, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Generally, I just look at the edits they made, and if they made a mistake or seem to not know how to do something (like if they sign their name wrong), I'll generally drop a note with a useful tip in it, that's all. Homestar Coder 22:52, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

[edit] JoeyDay link

I'm taking off the link to JoeyDay. First, because he suggests people use the FAQ. Second, because he's pretty busy right now and doesn't have time to check the wiki as much as he'd like (in fact, in the last month, he's only been able to make one edit (besides updating the ledger)). — It's dot com 22:35, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Category

Thanks Kiefer and Kookyk, It didn't dawn on me that the welcoming committee uses subst: to copy the templates over. I would've thought subst would obey the noinclude, but I guess not. New bug perhaps? Anyway, thanks for the fix! --Stux 23:10, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm I just realized I had done this before and had already been reverted. How embarassing. --Stux 23:13, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

No problem. :) —  KieferSkunk (talk) — 23:38, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestion

This is just a suggestion and I could easily see how this could backfire, but it seems that most new users are now aware of the what's new template. Thinking the main page is locked, when they see a problem or a new update, the say that somebody should change it. Somebody does, and then fills them in on the template. This could be beneficial to new users very much. Does anybody else agree? -AtionSong 14:20, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Be bold. I love that visual pun. I can't see how it's a bad idea, so I think you're on to something. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 17:35, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Alright. Does the wording sound good? -AtionSong 17:56, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Once we semi-protect the template, then all they can do is add them to the H*R.com updates page. I don't think this line is too helpful because of the very small amount of people who would need to know that information during the two-minute period between when H*R.com is updated and HRWiki is updated. Those people might be too busy to read through their welcome message, and by the time they do, someone else will have already put it up. —BazookaJoe 18:08, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

The line doesn't necessarily have to be removed, but they should be told to post new updates on the H*R.com updates page. The whatsnew template should be left to the experienced users. Of course, I bet most could figure out where the updates page is on their own though. Maybe I'll go for removing the line after all. —BazookaJoe 18:16, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

BazookaJoe is seconded. Though I appreciate the idea, and recognize the frequency of the misunderstanding you're talking about, Ation, I can't really imagine a situation where someone completely new to the site gets a crack at posting an update. What I do think should be included in this template is a link to the Tour, or better yet, the entire Introduction. I wonder how many people have actually noticed the tiny "First time here?" link at the bottom of the page at any point before their 10th visit? —AbdiViklas 18:39, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I understand your point. As far as "new" users not being likely to see updates, even older users aren't aware of it. [1] [2] [3] [4] for examples. I just thought it would be helpful for everybody to know so people wouldn't need to ask. -AtionSong 23:35, 29 March 2006 (UTC)