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[edit] the Spanish Inquisition

The thing about the Spanish Inquisition being a reference to Monty Python should probably be removed. While MP did have one of those, the Inquisition was a real event, guys. Strongkinghomsarsmith 00:58, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

But did the real Inquisition wear bright red uniforms? I'll only remove it if they did. BBG 01:16, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Yes. Yes, I think they did. When I did a google image on the subject, what color and non-python images i found depicted them in red. Although now that I did that, they didn't seem to be wearing those goofy fedoras or whatever Strong Bad is wearing, though that's probably part of his Carmen freakin' Miranda getup. Strongkinghomsarsmith 01:46, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Could someone upload a picture of Michael Palin's Cardinal Ximiaez costume from "The Buzz Aldrin Show/An Apology" for comparison's sake? BBG 21:41, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Nowadays, almost everyone associates The Spanish Inquisition with Monty Python; it's one of their most famous sketches. Even those who haven't been fortunate to watch a single episode of Flying Circus knows it. History lessons on the subject haven't been the same since. When people think of the Spanish Inquisition, they immediately think of three men dressed in "nice red uniforms" with red hats on their heads. The point here is that Strong Bad's costume looks very similar to Palin's outfit (even the hat!), and Homestar points this out. Yes, it's possible that the real Inquisition wore exactly the same outfit as the Pythons, but it's almost certain that TBC were referring to Inquisition that always showed up in the famous television programme, rather than the real Inquisition. The show's just too famous. I don't see why this has been brought into dispute in the first place. – The Chort 20:06, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Eric Praline

John Cleese's cameo in Fan Costumes '08 is more a reference to the actor from Monty Python, 007, Shrek, and The Great Muppet Caper than it is to the Monty Python troupe. How do we note that? BBG 20:12, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but no matter what other movies he appeared in, the fact remains that he used to be a Python. There's nothing wrong in refering to that. – The Chort 20:18, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Is there a way we can note that it's a less direct Python reference than the others on the list? BBG 20:19, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Talk:Disney#Disney Legends may contribute in discussing this issue. BBG 04:20, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I must question the recent claim that John Cleese is "mainly famous" for Monty Python. How do we measure the possibility he's less famous for playing Q in 007, for example? BBG 15:53, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

We could measure that by looking at his Wikipedia article for example. Also, when I made that claim I said that the entry should stay even if it's not the case. I agree with The Chort. Loafing 16:46, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Why is merely mentioning an actor involved sufficient to be a reference? That really makes no sense to me. If it's not a reference to Monty Python itself, I see no reason it should be on the page. I also don't see why this would be a reference to MP, especially since the reference to Cleese in this toon was inspired by his appearance on a non-MP-related TV show in a fan-submitted photograph. But I'm also not familiar enough with MP to be sure about that. Heimstern Läufer 23:35, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
I tried to find out if that program had any relevance to Monty Python, and the closest connection I found was Cleese remarking that Sarah beat Michael as the funniest Palin. I've also found a few points users made with, I guess you could call them "Two Degrees of Homestar Runner" facts:
I would say that just because a certain actor is famous for something that's known to be a common reference made in H*R doesn't make it a reference. When I think of angela lansbury, i think of "murder, she wrote" (which is what that toon is actually referencing.) When i think of Dick Van Dyke, i think of "the dick van dyke show", and when i think of john cleese, i think of Q from james bond. I think that all of them should only be listed if it's made clear that they are being spoken about in reference to their roles in these places.
DeFender1031, on whether mentioning Dick "Bert from Mary Poppins" Van Dyke in the SBCG4AP Dev Blog constitutes as a Disney reference.
An actor in an unrelated movie does not a reference make.
DorainGray, removing an appearance of Homestar dressed as a character portrayed by Cripsin "George McFly" Glover from Back to the Future
Are they relevant to this case? BBG 05:06, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Hmm, Heimi brought up a good point. I should have checked the toon before posting. The context was really not Monty Python. I also simply can't imagine how someone could not think of Monty Python when they think of John Cleese. I mean, seriously, Q? The two just don't go together ;-) But apparently I stand corrected by Deffy's quote. Looks like I have to agree that this should not be included as a Monty Python reference. Loafing 09:49, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Might I add, he wasn't even doing anything Monty Python related. It was a talk show. That's like saying Johnny Depp refers to Pirates of the Caribbean. References by association are hardly references at all. Thank you.--Jellote wuz here 12:00, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

[edit] We're an autononous commonwealth.

Despite this being an actual term, I found the way Bubs said it was an echo of the line "I thought we were an autonomous commonwealth" from The Holy Grail. Any takers? --Jellote 00:58, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Strong Badia the Free
BUBS: Technically it's an autonomous commonwealth, but you got the right idea!
Monty Python and The Holy Grail
WOMAN: I didn't know we had a king. I thought we were an autonomous collective.
Doesn't really seem like it to me.  Green Helmet 01:22, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Dennis

Isn't the name Dennis as a direction for Thy Dungeon Man a reference to Holy Grail, where the peasant's name is Dennis?

I have an uncle named Dennis. He has a copy of a holy grail. Yet I do not say anything about it. Dennis and Holy Grails are about as related a John Cleese and Monty Python (See above), if not less so. So... no. Unrelated. Besides, there is no grail in Dungeonman. Granted, there is a flask, but still. Unrelated.--Jellote wuz here 01:02, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Homsar chimes from happy dethemberween

I just noticed somthing while rewatching Holy Grail. In the Camelot song, one of the knights plays the chimes on the heads of four other knights, exactly like in the Homsar section of Happy Dethemberween. Please. before you decline this, watch the video again. You can find the song on Youtube. Uncanny, right?--Jellote wuz here 15:50, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

And in Return of the jedi, the ewoks play on the helmets of imperial troops as chimes... I don't think it's distinctive enough to pin to any one place. — Defender1031*Talk 16:07, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Monty Python fan main page

I remember an interesting fan-made H*R main page that included many Monty Python references, including a can of Spam, the giant foot, the flagellant monks, and the Rabbit of Caerbannog (the killer rabbit from Holy Grail), but I can't find it anywhere anymore, and it doesn't seem to be documented in the fanstuff section. Does anyone else remember this? --JohnnyLurg 06:29, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Found it! --JohnnyLurg 23:34, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Knightly Homestar

Later today, could I change the image to Homestar dressed as the Black Knight? It not only looks more colorful than the current image, but the Poopsmith's pose doesn't even match the Holy Grail scene in question IIRC. BBG 10:07, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

It would be a more apt image. I'd support it. DEI DAT VMdatvm center\super contra 12:29, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
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