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[edit] BIG Clean up

I have removed several items that now have complete and informative articles to explain them. This should not pose a problem for a total H*R noobie who comes to this Wiki looking for info, as they should find the article before the glossary anyway. - Dr Haggis - Talk 01:21, 7 Jan 2005 (MST)

[edit] Anchors

The anchors are not working. I'm not sure I know the proper formatting for anchors in MediaWiki. Anybody? — wikisig.gif Joey (talk·edits) 12:50, 16 Sep 2004 (MST)

I'm moving this off the main page to here, made the glossary look cluttered. Plus I think this kind of discussion goes on the Talk page.

  • I thought it was 20XP6! -- DragonDoom5

However, I'm pretty sure it's 20X6 with no P. --racerx_is_alive 12:58, 16 Sep 2004 (MST)

[edit] Emails?

Is the definition of the word "Email" even necessary? --oddtodd 00:26, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)

Seconded. --GregHosting 03:07, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Yeah. we all know what an email is. Sbmaniac
What about the people who don't, though? You must remember, we are writing for a large audience, not just the tech-knowledgable. (I know that line is worded strange.) Bluebry 00:03, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

But this is a glossary of H*R specific terms, of which email is not. SaltyTalk! 00:05, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

True, but it is an extremely common word in the H*R universe. I mean, it's like Homestar saying "bread", and half of the users don't know what bread means. If it doesn't stay, I think it should be merged with whatever Strong Bad Email's entry is, if it has one. Bluebry 00:10, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
"Email" isn't even listed in the Glossary. --DorianGray
People don't know what bread means? HRfan222

[edit] Intelligence

Is the definition of intelligence/intelligent necessary? Isn't this glossary for words that would not be found outside of h*r? mibluvr13 09:04, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

Already take care of. Sbmaniac
I would expect so, considering this topic is over a year old. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 00:56, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] X

The letter X may be pronounced "Xty" but it isn't its name. If we're going by how it's pronounced should we change "404'd" to "Four oh Foured"? No. It's just X. The chaps are using it as a number. The if the number was 2026, we wouldn't write 2ty. It's 20. So if anything it's X0. Not Xty. And where is this other crap coming from " X-T, XT, Exty, X0". No one ever refers to it as this. And if they do it's wrong. This wiki explains Homestarrunner.com, not the way the fans talk about the website. I don't want to have an editing battle or anything. So I want to come with a conscientious with you guys. --Droffats

How about we say that "When used in the tens place, X is pronounced "Xty"". --homestar3.14 13:24, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] VOIP

Should VOIP get a real-world definition (Voice Over Internet Protocol)? A related question is whether it should be a Real-World Reference in Teen Girl Squad Issue 1. S Gleason 18:11, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • Because that definition of the word has nothing to do with its use in Teen Girl Squad or Homestar Runner. This is an H*R glossary, not a general glossary. Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 04:55, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Will you advise on whether it should be a Real-World Reference? I hate to belabor the point, but I feel there should be an acknowledgement that the BC used a real-world term as a sound effect. S Gleason 05:00, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • It's just a random onomatopœia that TBC threw in. We wouldn't mention that the FOM in "BAOW FOM FROOSH" can stand for "Foundation of Mathematics", for example, why mention this one? --phlip TC 06:25, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • I don't think it was random, but I will let it go. I am very new here. Thank you for being polite, phlip. S Gleason 06:34, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] grodalated

I'm not sure it needs a definition here, as it's a legitimate word. (Legitimate meaning it was in fairly common use at the time, which it still is.) See http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=grodalated. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 22:28, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Where in the H*R world or pretty much anywhere did you hear this? Sbmaniac 23:54, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
bedtime story. SaltyTalk! 00:04, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Ah, what a good email that was. Ok back on task. I think it would be a good idea.But, try to make the defnition sorta...i don't know...revovle around the Denzel. Sbmaniac
I was talking about getting rid of the one that's already on the page. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 22:19, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
I say be Bold and do it. Sbmaniac 23:29, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

The movement in Talk:Neologisms is calling for a merge with this page. I'm all for it, but after looking at this page, I don't think it is ready for a well formatted page like Neologism (don't mind the templates at the top) to be just dumped in this mess of a page. So here is a quick to do list:

  • Better opening: It was written in the old Tavi times when we didn't have such a high standards.
  • Links: Some of the items here already have pages for themsleves.
  • Trimming: things like "Bumdumbourge" that only appeared once and which we have no real definition of.
  • More encyclopedic: Things like "CHALLENGE!!!: A favorite word (and pastime) of Stinkoman." should confirm to the same standards as HRWiki:Glossary and be worded like "challenge (n.): Stinkoman's favorite pastime.".

I propose this page for Community Cleanup Week as it's a high visibility linked from the Main Page. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 09:27, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I was working on this for a while, so do you think it still needs more cleanup? It could use more words possibly, but I can't think of any at the moment. -Brightstar Shiner 23:42, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
I still don't like the opening... It sounds kind of... kiddie, somehow. But I don't know how to reword it. --DorianGray 23:45, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Neither do I. This is frustrating... -Brightstar Shiner 23:52, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
I wrote a new intro and I think it's okay. What do you think? -Brightstar Shiner 14:23, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Lookin' great! I took out some stuff (I don't think it's too encyclopedic to write with the 2nd person perspective) and added in a "see also" section. I'm glad this page is getting a major clean-up (I kept meaning to attend to this page, but kept putting it off). kai lyn 14:37, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, kai. I wrote the new intro off the top of my head, so I didn't expect it to be perfect. I think if E.L. Cool comes over to show his approval (since he's the one who started this), we can remove the cleanup tag. -Brightstar Shiner 14:44, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Cool.
I just have one problem with the list above — Links: Some of the items here already have pages for themsleves — I don't think a brief definition is all that bad. I think we can keep some words here that already have articles, (for those who use this page as their primary reference). kai lyn 14:51, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Good point. I like this page as it is right now, personally. Are there any words we should add or get rid of before we remove the tag? -Brightstar Shiner 14:55, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Dunno right now. As they come to mind, people can add 'em in. We should just focus on making this page uniform for now, as opposed to adding/baleeting new words. Also, (and I'm not being wise here; I really am asking), what's the point with merging Neologisms with this page? This page is neologisms! (This isn't directed at you, Brightstar; this's a general question). kai lyn 15:03, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

See my comment on that same talk page. Every word on that page is also here, almost word-for-word. So by "merging" it, we would be deleting Neologisms and not doing anything to Glossary. -Brightstar Shiner 15:07, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Ah... Like turning "Neologisms" into a redirect? I thought people wanted, like, a "Neologisms" section at the bottom of this page! (But that doesn't even make sense!) Okay, I get it now. kai lyn 15:11, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Very nice work! I want to give a good cheer to Loafing and DarkAlex, but especially to Brightstar Shiner and 4kai2lyn6 for great clean up they did in only two days of consecutive work. the page looks wonderful and the has-been Neologism page is now redirected to it. It happens a lot to me that I propose something but never actually go to do it myself, but I couldn't have done a better job! Elcool (talk)(contribs) 07:30, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] All Up Ons

Forgive me for dropping in unannounced, but I always took, "the ladies will be all up ons" to mean not that, "the ladies will be great," but that, "the ladies will be in an uncontrollably makey-outey state." For example, the Ab-Abber 2000 does not turn the ladies in the vicinity into great ladies, but rather your presence after usage now puts the ladies into an excited state. Hope this is the right way to bring up such a point --- it is my first attempt at wiki-ing. -kielejocain

Umm, yeah, I agree... it doesn't make any sense as listed. In addition, the page that it links to has a different definition. I'm gonna go ahead and change it. DeFender1031 01:05, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Definition of "Poopaw"

Poopaw is what Strong Bad calls his grandfather. RocketMasterZ 07:43, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Is it now? With what can you back that up? --Jay (Talk) 08:50, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Inconsistency

Why are the nicknames "graw mad" and "gron sad" included but not other nicknames? Likewise, why aren't portmonteaus included? --Image:Homsariconformysig.gifBroncoTroll 02:29, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

What I'm trying to say is what worth including and what isn't? I think every non-existent word is worth adding. --Image:Homsariconformysig.gifBroncoTroll 02:39, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Proposition: I think this should only include words exclusive to the hr universe. Yes, some people might not know what "Adobe flash" is, but I think this should be a page for showcasing the unique vocabulary of the site. --Image:Homsariconformysig.gifBroncoTroll 02:44, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

If things like "Fluffy puff marshmallows" and "The Brothers Strong" are included, then there's no reason not to include every single character and original object article in the series. All in all I'd like some feedback: What to you think this article should consist of? Anything that could be a confusing term? Only things unique to the universe? --Image:Homsariconformysig.gifBroncoTroll 03:11, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
What I'm trying to say is there are thousands of articles included, what articles, if any, deserve a mention in the glossary? --Image:Homsariconformysig.gifBroncoTroll 03:14, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
My suggestion to refine the page to a more specific purpose is to only include original words and phrases, and not include mispronunciations, portmonteaus, nicknames, characters, etc. Otherwise it's a massive stub. --Image:Homsariconformysig.gifBroncoTroll 03:14, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

It's just weird. Some running gags are linked to like spin my buzzer, and also buzzer is linked to. WHAT SHOULD THIS PAGE INCLUDE?!?! --Image:Homsariconformysig.gifBroncoTroll 03:15, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Ugh. I mean like, glossary is so vague. Are we going to list every hr article? The point of this originally was to make a dumping grounds for information on all of the things which didn't have articles. Who says what's listed and what's not? I think this page should be replaced with "invented words and phrases" or something of the sort. --Image:Homsariconformysig.gifBroncoTroll 06:21, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
I think it shouldn't include proper nouns or names or stuff. Just made-up words that aren't portmanteaus or mispronunciations or whatever. And some phrases. --Image:Homsariconformysig.gifBroncoTroll 07:00, 11 August 2015 (UTC) Ugh. And this includes acronyms and initialisms which are already an article. --Image:Homsariconformysig.gifBroncoTroll 07:12, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

I think the point is that the commonly used or prominent terminology is included here. "Graw mad" and "gron sad" are both used several times. "Flash" is a BIG part of the site (as evidenced by the recent toon). "Fluffy puff marshmallows" and "The Brothers Strong" as well. I think the inclusion threshold here has been mostly "whatever we think is prominent enough to warrant being here". I've noticed that you tend to like patterns in terms of what gets included in articles and I agree that it's not a particularly satisfying pattern here, but inclusion in general will always be a bit subjective. Does a character who appears in only one toon deserve their own page? Depends if we think that character was prominent enough to warrant their own page. The purpose of this page is to have a one-stop shop of terms and references that Homestar fans (and users of this wiki) will often make. I wouldn't mind fleshing out the rules for this a bit more, but to lay down a rule that says that we strip out all of the most memorable portmanteaus, nicknames, etc. just because they're documented elsewhere will completely defeat the purpose of the page. — DeFender1031*Talk 01:14, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Gotcha. Okay. You're right, I do like patterns. If that's the case, this page needs a lot added to it. --Image:Homsariconformysig.gifBroncoTroll 01:31, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
Great. Also, I propose we change the name of this page to "Count Longardeaux's Strong Badian Jerktionary Fo' My Own Words!". (Kidding.) — DeFender1031*Talk 01:45, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
I was thinking about that. It would be cool to include a picture of it. --Image:Homsariconformysig.gifBroncoTroll 01:53, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
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