Talk:i love you

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[edit] Closed STUFF

[edit] The joke theory (DECLINED)

It's been theorized that this [that the email was a spoof of the "i love you" virus] is not true. A person claiming to be Fhqwhgads said he actually just sent the Email as a joke, and that it was not intended to be used. "I didn't spoof a virus," he said, "I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." However, due to a concern about personal provacy, he would not give any information. -TakuaKaita600 17:36, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)

• Still Decline Next thing you know the Wiki will be flooded with kids claiming to have their own story about why they e-mailed Strong Bad. Too much speculation, no real way to prove any of it. Its bad enough that we have people thinking they can get their fun facts in by putting "It may be" or "Its possible that" in with them. Donny vs Universe
  • Second. -- tomstiff 07:33, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • 2nd. --Beatfox 19:02, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Accept. I can see how we wouldn't want to let this get out of hand, but we're fighting a problem we don't even have. If people were going to randomly and falsely claim to be email authors, I think they'd already be doing it. Plus, we're not talking about accepting all such claims; we're only concerned here with this case (and if the Supreme Court of the United States can make a ruling while at the same time declaring that it doesn't set precedent, so can we). Lastly, I think TK genuinely believes to be in contact with the fhqwhgads, and that should carry some weight. — It's dot com 08:54, 13 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Thank you. And I assure everyone here: neither I nor any of my comrades (including Fwh) is anywhere near crazy. ^_^ In fact, I really hate nonevident and irrational claims, and I most certainly would not want the wiki to be flooded with them! But I seriously know THE Fhqwhgads -TK
• Well I genuinly think that I'm in contact with people who can't get my point. It could be true yes but he can't prove it so it shouldn't go up in any way shape or form. No different than any other fun fact that needs proof to be accepted. Donny vs Universe
• Decline-erson Is it not possible that this potential AIM'er could be a fake, just claiming to be Fwh but not him truely? And, if it was the true Fwh, than wouldnt it make sence that his AIM name (IamFHQWHGADS142) wouldnt have numbers at the end, as the real Fwh would probably be the first person to make such a name and wouldnt require the numbers at the end of it.---erson 12:45, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • That's NOT the Fun Fact in question. You're thinking of "Not expecting." This is different! Plus lemee just clarify this: in order to fully understand the esscense of THIS fact, you gotta forget it even HAD a predescessor (and all the information included in that one.)TakuaKaita600 20:26, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Well than, how did you get that information and those quotes? By talking to a person on AIM. How do you know that person was the real Fwh? You dont! Still Decline. ---erson 23:27, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. The person COULD have just wanted numbers in his screename. --Gafaddict 20:21, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Exactly! You tryin to say I should just be TakuaKaita? A little insulting. TakuaKaita600
  • Comment. The real Fwh would not have made an AIM name before writing the e-mail because it was random banging on the keyboard. Only once the e-mail had become famous would s/he have made that name. By that time, someone else likely took the AIM name first, forcing the real Fwh to add numbers.--homestar3.14 17:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Comment. Both versions hinge upon a quote from the purported foogoograss. The quote is impossible to verify. As a result, both fact and theory should be rejected. -- tomstiff 20:41, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Which is why "claimed" is used...look you gous are missing the point...the point is it wasn't based on the virus, not that I know Fwh. Besides, if proof is all you guys seem to care about, what "proof" do we have that it WAS based on the virus?TakuaKaita600 21:45, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • I dunno, maybe the large Scare that passed during the same time this email was released? It could be an influence considering it wason every news station across the land. I mean honestly... And note: in order for it to be a fun fact, it needs proof. Its not a fact without it! --Posted by -erson 22:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment.You're right. There is no proof. Frankly, I think the "virus" theory should be deleted/stuff-ed. -- tomstiff 22:30, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Decline. No proof, no fun fact in my opinion. If it requires furthur input, then let me say this. If it were me who sent the e-mail, I wouldn't go off and register a new AIM, e-mail or whatever, I'd just keep my own. However, I do disagree with the number theory. Maybe the numbers had significance. But anyway, there's no way to prove it so it can't be claimed a fact. Super Sam 07:50, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Not Expecting (DECLINED)

Fhqwhgads actually just sent the Email as a joke. It was not intended to be used. However, Fhqwhgads, whose personal information will not be revealed because of a request not to, did say this in an AIM conversation: "I didn't spoof a virus. I just loved him [Strong Bad]. A virus was the exact opposite of what I wanted to be." If you don't believe this, you can contact him-his AIM screename is IamFHQWHGADS142. (He has pride that he is Fhqwhgads) -TK600

• Decline (unless you can show proof) --Jay 11:29, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Second -acekirby13 (who forgot to log in)
  • Thurd Rudeboy87 14:05, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Second Aurora the Homestar Coder 15:53, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Seconated!! Kvb 03:55, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Second.tomstiff 07:45, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

• I PUT more proof, but that was also deleted by another member for no apparent reason. I don't get it with you people. Do I have to give the guy's AIM address or something?!
  • Where?! --Jay 19:22, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
• Sorry, forgot to include the change-in-question. I replaced the old one with it, so it can be viewed above...
  • {views change} That's not even slightly like proof. Aurora the Homestar Coder 19:27, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • Agreed An anecdote - especially one that you could be making up - is not proof. I'm not saying you're lying. You may not be. But you have no proof. --Jay 19:29, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
• I put another version up with his address. I really hope you guys take that as proof, cuz if not that I dunno what.
  • Not Proof'd' An AIM isn't much proof. Can you proof that the AIM is from the real, one and only fhqwhgads? Kvb 05:38, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Actually, come to think of it, this isn't even from "i love you"...I put it in "Fhqwhgads."
• Decline Hey, I programmed that game where they got Strong Bad's name from! I'm typing this on the internet so it must be true! It could be true, but considering that this comes down to a matter of "he says, we says" I gotta decline it. Donny vs Universe
• Oh, so you're sayin' I'm lyin', huh? Well I'm not...what would I put it up for? Publicity? I didn't give my name OR his. Well, whatever. I give up. For now. But I'm just tryin' to say it wasn't based on the I love you virus is all. I dont care about any of the other stuff. It's just what's there now is an incorrect statement, and I want people to know the truth is all-TakuaKaita600
• Anyone could claim to have sent any paticular e-mail. We're not saying you're lying, we're saying that you're going to be 1100hard up to prove it %100. For now? This isn't your website, you can't force people to accept a "fact" that has been reasonably rejected. Donny vs Universe
  • I agree with you entirely. Go ahead and delete it.By "for now" I meant that if I get enough information that I think you'll like it, I'll try again (if that's okay with you guys). -TK600, with his apologies to the Wiki for making such a fuss
• Compromise. There is an item in the Remarks section that begins with "It's been theorized that..." Isn't that what this is: another theory? Under the first remark, why can't there be another entry that reads, "Additionally, a person claiming (but not proven) to be the fhqwhgads states to have only sent the email as a joke, and that he or she was not trying to spoof a virus." It's interesting, relevant, and as written it's a fact. — It's dot com 15:54, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
  • Hey, that's a great idea! I was wondering if that woould work myself... Hey, everyone...I'ma edit this and then maybe can we revote? -TK
  • Decline Compromise I say remove the theory from the Remarks section. It's just as speculative -- tomstiff 16:02, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
    • You're referring to something else. -TK
    • Reverted back to original STUFF. If we're gonna do that, this one needs to be closed and a new one created! -- tomstiff 16:11, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
      • That's reasonable, but can we seriously try that? Please? -TK
        • Second. — It's dot com 16:44, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
• Decline I'm not convinced that an AIM User Name is enough to prove that that person is Fhqwhgads. Like Jay, I'm not saying you're lying, I just don't think it's enough solid proof. --acekirby13 22:02, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • This entire thing has already been discontinued. ^_^-TK
    • Discontinued? The post before mine was still voting, and it was only a day ago. I believe that the voting stops when The Eggman closes it. --acekirby13 01:28, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • While I'm flattered that I seem to have become the finish line for voting on these, it's not officially my job (though I don't mind doing it from time to time). Also, I've been going by the Talk-page-accepted system of closing after no less than 2 weeks (except in a few select cases, such as the "order" issue in Rock Opera and a few others that were just inane). Also, This is my vote for a DECLINE --TheEggman 03:40, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Decline.I feel sympathy for your plight TK. If someone wants attention, pretending to be fhqwhgads seems like a strange way to do it. All that being said, the info you provided isn't that much fun. Is there more of a story behind it? I mean, most people who e-mail strong bad do it as a joke, trying to be funny, and not because they have some urgent request or some strong passionate need to communicate something. Is the real fhqwhgads interesting? What's his motivation in life? What's his angle? If you can get some juicy facts like this, I would be on your side 100%.--rsl12 16:34, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Then don't you mean "revise?" But w/e. Thanks. PS, could someone PLEASE close this?! I don't even want to think about it anymore...TakuaKaita600 20:19, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• DELORTED

[edit] For cryin' out loud

People, this email was sent by the Lovebug.

If you don't want to click on this link, then:
The lovebug came out of nowhere and sent emails with random names, including yours truly: FHQWHGADS. It usually sent something like I love you. So yeah, this email is a virus.

Trust me. I read it in Bathroom Reader.

--Homestar tiger

Although an interesting theory, the 'kipedia page on "variants" doesn't list Fhqwhgads as a sender. Do you have any primary sources that like Fah-hord-ling-grass? — Flashfight 03:23, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Given the large numbers of consecutive letters in fhqwhgads-etc that are close together on a QWERTY keyboard (fh, qw, hg, ads...) it seems much more likely that the gibberish was just someone mashing keys at random, as opposed to some strange representation of the virus. Also, note that on that page you linked to is a list of all the forms the ILOVEYOU email could take... note that none of them said "i love you" exactly like that. In short: It's very unlikely that this email was sent by that virus. Also: why would Bathroom Reader know how they got the email? They don't have any more information that we do... (indeed, they probably have less, since they're more a general-purpose setup, and less an overly-obsessive dedicated fanbase...). --phlip ^T_C 03:28, 8 March 2008 (UTC)