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Hey, is this article really needed? Ultimate Trogdor is just Trogdor in differrent graphic styles. Why don't we have an Ultimate Strong Bad page then? I say delete. - Tizye96

I disagree...we have a page for Trogador, who is just a Stinkoman 20X6 variation of Trogdor. If UT was just a visual gag, I would say delete as well, but there seems to be enough info to merit an article. DevonM(talk·cont-ribs) 03:07, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
What I meant was that it's not just a variation, it's just a different look. Not a variation. There's a difference. And it IS just a visual gag, like you said. But still, if we have this page, why don't we have an Ultimate Strong Bad? Because it's the exact same thing! :P -Tizye96
Wait, we DON'T have an article on Ultamite Strong Bad??? I'll take care of this! That Game Dude 386 03:14, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
(EDIT CONFLICT) A variation can be described as a different look. In my book, a visual gag would be a picture of a weirdly-styled Trogdor or somewhat, that doesn't move the story (and in this case, gameplay) along. We could make an Ultimate Strong Bad page, because Ultimate SB is a variation of SB, and does help the story/g-play progress. Or we could delete this page and then make an "Ultimate Character Variations" page, but since there's only 2 variations, the page wouldn't feel as strong (to me, at least). DevonM(talk·cont-ribs) 03:19, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
You know how you said there's only two versions? That reminded me how wierd it was that Homestar didn't look like those guys! Should that be added to Remarks on 8-Bit Is Enough? -Tizye96
Okay, we now have an Ultimate Strong Bad page, which has at least 4 instances, so that one isn't desputeable- it's a keeper. Now, should we rename the article to Ultimate Trogdor and not ULTIMATE TROGDOR!!!? That Game Dude 386 03:50, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't see this page being nominated for discussion, but that's good in my mind, because I think it should stay. It's written well, and about a bona fide character variation. It's not Trogdor, because it can't just be killed by the Trogsword, It's spikes and wings are different, and after it's killed, the real Troggie is still running around the field. If it was the same character with just different style, the real Trogdor would b affected. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 05:01, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

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