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:::::::''[edit conflict]'' I'm with T-Bird. I live in California and I've ''never'' heard of a place called Cornwall here, and it also doesn't show up in my Rand McNally road atlas. It must be a teeny, tiny place that probably doesn't have the Internet. ;-) But seriously, I really doubt he's from here, unless there's any strong evidence to the contrary. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 20:49, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::''[edit conflict]'' I'm with T-Bird. I live in California and I've ''never'' heard of a place called Cornwall here, and it also doesn't show up in my Rand McNally road atlas. It must be a teeny, tiny place that probably doesn't have the Internet. ;-) But seriously, I really doubt he's from here, unless there's any strong evidence to the contrary. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 20:49, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::''(another edit conflict)'' Well, [http://www.travelpost.com/NA/USA/California/Pittsburg/2946499 Pittsburg, CA] (yes, CA, not PA) is in almost the same location and it's got ''more'' people than Cornwall, ON. So it's not a regional thing. Still looking for Cornwall's population. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:50, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::''(another edit conflict)'' Well, [http://www.travelpost.com/NA/USA/California/Pittsburg/2946499 Pittsburg, CA] (yes, CA, not PA) is in almost the same location and it's got ''more'' people than Cornwall, ON. So it's not a regional thing. Still looking for Cornwall's population. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:50, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
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:::::::Or the [http://www.google.com/search?q=cornwall+ca Google search]. The canadian is first. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 20:51, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
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::::::::Or the [http://www.google.com/search?q=cornwall+ca Google search]. The Canadian is first. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 20:51, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
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:::::::::''(still being edit conflicted since Heim's comment...)'' It's impossible to know for sure the sender's location. Therefore we're simply left with what's more likely, in this case it's the Canadian Cornwall because it has a larger population, and therefore more possible senders. In that case, the sender simply decided to give their City and Country, instead of City and Province, or City Province and Country, which isn't unheard of. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 20:53, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
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::::::::::Another thing, guys: I drive though that part of California to get to my parents' house every few months and have ''still'' never seen a sign or anything that says "Cornwall". {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 20:54, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
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: Okay, whatever. I grant that it's a small town, given that I'm having so much trouble finding info on it. But before today I'd never, ever seen "CA" used as an abbreviation for Canada outside of webdomain names. And I still remain unconvinced until I see a population chart showing its population to be zero, or Cephas himself arrives and posts here. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:58, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
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::The GPS cordinates I found via the link Jay provided [http://216.10.112.81/Maps/MapRenderer.aspx?pid=2990874&mt=1&cx=-121.87778&cy=38.02056&lx=0&ly=0&z=1&h=300&w=400] don't give me a place called Cornwall on the same GPS cordinates on [http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Oakland,+CA&t=h&ll=38.02056,-121.87778&spn=0.088983,0.21698&t=h Google Maps] nor on [http://kvaleberg.com/extensions/mapsources/index.php?params=38.02056_N_-121.87778_E_type:city_region:US many other map programs].  They all return Pittsburg, California.  Additionally, Cornwall is not mentioned in Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Contra Costa County, California|Contra Costa County, California]] article. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:17, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
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:::Huh. Maybe the town is very (very) new, now a part of Pittsburg, or the site I found made it up? If that's the case, my apologies. Still... "CA" as an abbreviation for somewhere other than California isn't what I'm used to. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:29, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
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::::More evidence: a guy from the forum who claims to be none other than Cephas himself. See [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=7040&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30 his post]. Could he be an impostor? Theoretically, but why would an imposter tell people that he lives in Canada, not California, and that SB pronounced his name wrong, as Cephas does in his post? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:38, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
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::::: One o' these days I ought to join the forum. Okay, I concede, false alarm, just a slight incongruity between what I expected and what actually happened. Carry on. Carry on, dang you! :p --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:43, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
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::::::Ah, nice catch Heim. Guess that lays it to rest. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:47, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
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== Intro question ==
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This sentence seemed unclear when i was copying the intro to the Alpha-list page: what does '''''whether they are featured or not,''''' mean here? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:25, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
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:It means whether or not they are the e-mail Strong Bad answered (Ow, my lack of better wording!). For example, in [[other days]], the e-mail from Janus is in that e-mail, but is not featured. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 20:23, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
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== vacation ==
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Should we include Strong Bad's made up email in vacation? You know, the one in the Two Cars, Tennesee postcard? I think we should, but that might be because I'm from Seattle... --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 20:18, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
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==[[senior prom]]==
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I do wonder how much evidence we have where the sender of the senior prom email is from.  Especially since WA can mean either Washington (state, for you East Coasters) or Western Australia.  Given there are no clues in the email, it could be either.  It there any way to indicate on this page about this uncertainty? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 17:47, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
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: In spite of me being wrong with the Cornwall thing above, I think that this is a reach. The vast majority of sbemails come from Americans, and I live in Washington; it really is WA. Without context or evidence to the contrary, we may as well leave it as Washington - perhaps with a note that it COULD be Western Australia at best. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:51, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

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Emails from Maryland

He hasn't gotten one from Maryland yet. Maybe I will be the one to change that. After all, the state abbrevation is MD, which leads to an obvious joke.--Hysterical Woman 13:36, 9 Nov 2004 (MST)

If you do, it'll mean he's replied (Or at least shown it on the toon), to e-mails from 1/2 of the 50 states. As it stands right now, he's only at 24. -- Thunderbird 19:52, 10 Nov 2004 (MST)

Sorry, guess you weren't the one. Or at least, not the origional one. There you go though, he's got 1/2 the states covered. And he didn't even do the MD joke! Maybe you should focus on that, he could always do a repeat of the state. Not for a few weeks at least though, most likely. [[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]] 17:51, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

Dumb Question About Alberta

dumb question: why is Alabama listed for "email birds"? the only place abbreviation in any of those emails (unless I'm on crack today and misremembering) was AB, which is.. um... some place that's not Alabama, since that's AL. -- worm

Fixed. It's Alberta, Canada. -- Tom 09:03, 19 Dec 2004 (MST)

Knowledge of No Name Author

I know where one of the "no location" e-mails came from. Should I move it there despite the fact that it's not identified in the e-mail? I'm new at this. ~Mila edit: sorry, wasn't logged in. I'm really new at this.

Hey, no problem. It's okay. Which email, and how do you know where it came from? -- Tom 20:56, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)
Stunt Double, because my friend in Illinois sent it. His joy over being answered is how I was introduced to HR. ~Mila
Hmm, now this is a bit touchy. I totally believe you that your friend sent the email. But I don't think we'd be able to change the page with out some sort of confirmation. Of course, there's really no way to prove it. I think the best thing would be for us to leave it how it is now, as it is with our knowledge from the actual email. I'm really sorry about this, but there isn't much we can do. -- Tom 21:12, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)
That's why I asked, because I have no idea. Thanks for your help. Mila 21:18, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)
Hey, no problem. -- Tom 21:23, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)
Hey, just thought I'd throw my 2 cents worth into it. I think that falls in the same catergory as the 'seb' e-mail, since apparently TBC admit that they made it up, it shouldn't quite be allowed. But it's still how the e-mail's signed. So I think the best thing is just to go by the exact letter of the e-mail, plus it also protects from misled do-gooders, who would likely constantly 'fix' it. However, since it sounds credible, I have taken the liberty of adding an 'easter egg' of sorts, inside the raw edit code. I think that makes everyone happy. And that's my two cents. [[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]] 01:10, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)

Alphabetical Order

Shouldn't the places be in alphabetical order? «Rob»

You know, I just spent like 20 minutes typing out a long reason as to why they SHOULDN'T be alphabetical, when I realized that my reasons didn't really make alot of sense, for both pages. So you know what? You're right. I'll get on it sometime later tonight. Thanks for the input. I don't know why I didn't do this earlier! Chronologically... What was I thinking? [[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]] 09:40, 30 Jan 2005 (MST)
(If anyone has any objections to alphabeticalness, speak now, or forever hold your peace. I'm thinking I'll start work on it sometime around 6 or 7 tonight, hopefully get both pages done). [[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]] 09:40, 30 Jan 2005 (MST) (Edit: I never did sort it out. I blame it squarely on the Thinnkaman)
I don't think you understood what I meant. I mean the list of locations should be in alphabetical order. I've noticed that there are US states (in alphabetical order) and then countries (in alphabetical order). Now that I see that, I'm not sure whether it is alright how it is now or how having them in total alphabetical order. «Rob»

Why don't we have the places like this?:

== United States of America ==
<Emails that only say from USA.>

=== California ===
<Emails from California.>

=== Texas ===
<Emails from Texas.>

<and so on with other countries, an alphabetical order. I understand that the majority of emails are
 from USA, so USA is listed first.>

«Rob»

Well it's all already like that, except with one minor difference. I don't belive anybody has ever e-mailed saying just 'USA'. They either give their state, some other country, or nothing. If they have no location, they could be from America, Canada, the UK, or anywhere, easily. If you can point me in the direction of an e-mail that just has 'USA', I'll make the needed changes. But as it stands now, I think it's pretty good. If you want to make some kind of header before the states though, go for it, it would probably look okay, though I think most people would assume we mean states inside the US of A. [[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]] 16:43, 31 Jan 2005 (MST)

Tables

I did a wrough table for 'Arizona'. Any comments? Suggestions? I don't think the heading 'Interpretation' is quite right, but I don't know what to put instead. [[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]] 10:50, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)

"Interpretation" may not be the best but I can't come up with anything else better than "What Strong Bad called it"... oh, and Evin reverted your change. >_> --Jay 20:38, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)

Mapquest links

I just reverted the MapQuest links that were added to four towns. If we ever decided to do something like this, I might want to link to their respective Wikipedia pages instead. -- Tom 14:49, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)

  • Just checked Wikipedia for Gambier, OH: no entry. Most of the references to small towns probably won't have an entry. Why *not* add mapping links? Or even add 2 columns to the table entries: a "Map It" entry and a "Read About It" (sic) entry (i.e. a link to a town main page or Wikipedia link?) -- tomstiff 08:10, 21 Mar 2005 (CST)
  • I added the links described above for the OH table *only*. It's easily reverted if it doesn't pass muster. -- tomstiff 08:22, 21 Mar 2005 (CST)
The map and info parts are okay, but I don't like the ones that don't link. If there's no map/info, don't write in down without a link. Gives the wrong idea. --Joshua 10:00, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
Uh, I found Wikipedia:Gambier, Ohio very quickly. How did you search tomstiff? And what's great about the Wikipedia articles is they have info about the town and links to maps/aerial photo. Plus we like linking to Wikipedia whenever we can. -- Tom 12:15, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)
Well ... I stand corrected (again). I entered "Gambier", expecting to see a list of pages. I got one page and it wasn't for the village. When I entered "Gambier, Ohio" I got the page you mention. Looks great to me. Let's link! -- tomstiff 13:22, 21 Mar 2005 (CST)
I'll start working on it right now.--Jnelson09 18:45, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
I just finished, but somebody's continuously erasing some of them.
OK, there were some links that didn't work. I fixed that.--Jnelson09 19:36, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Everything except "The Lodge, MN," which seems to be non-existent.
Don't forget that The Lodge is from the Email mile, which The Cheat made up. That's why it doesn't exist. Good work fixing all those links, though. Heimstern Läufer 19:42, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Strong Bad EmailS By Place?

I have concerns with people typing "Strong Bad Emails By Place" in the Search box and... NOTHING. Would a redirect page be a good idea? GWR_Wikisig.gifGWR 2004 TalkContribs 02:17, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Done the day you asked. Thats what I like about the wiki. Things work so smooth and quickly! — talk Bubsty edits 03:22, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Since when is "CA" the abbreviation for "Canada"?

CA is the abbreviation for California, not Canada, and although there's no Wikipedia page for it, there is a Cornwall, California! So why talk about the one in Ontario? --Jay (Talk) 20:22, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Take it from a Canadian, Canada can be abbreviated CA. here's a list of possible meanings of CA, Canada is even listed BEFORE California. Since Cornwall Canada is likely a larger city than Cornwall California, I think it's quite fair to assume it's coming North of the border. Thunderbird 20:26, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
I'll grant the larger city thing. But why CA? Wouldn't a native from Cornwall, ON write "Cornwall, ON"? --Jay (Talk) 20:28, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
One would wonder, yes. Perhaps they somehow thought it would have a better chance of being answered, since ON has been done.. I know that for me, they've already made fun of BC, so I always sign my emails "Canadian West Coast" instead. Thunderbird 20:32, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Strong Bad's made fun of everything. Some things multiple times. So? We're left with Occham's Razor here. Either:
  1. Cephas lives in Cornwall, ON.
  2. Cephas did not know the proper abbreviation for ON despite living there, or didn't want SB to make fun of it.
  3. Cephas then decided to abbreviate with CA, the exact same abbreviation we in the US use for California.
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  1. Cephas lives in Cornwall, CA.
There's no evidence of him living in Ontario, and the latter is clearly the simpler option. So I ask again: Why should we list Ontario? --Jay (Talk) 20:37, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
The link you provided gives no indication of population. Is Cornwall, California deserted? Or is the population too sparce to even be mentioned? Compared to a population of 45,640 with an immediate regional population of over 63,882, I think Cornwall, Ontario is a more likely sender location. Thunderbird 20:42, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
You're not giving me a reason why it is the Canadian one, you're giving me a reason why it's more likely, even though it's an unnecessary complication in assumptions. Sigh. Okay. Fine. I'll look up the population. --Jay (Talk) 20:44, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit conflict] I'm with T-Bird. I live in California and I've never heard of a place called Cornwall here, and it also doesn't show up in my Rand McNally road atlas. It must be a teeny, tiny place that probably doesn't have the Internet. ;-) But seriously, I really doubt he's from here, unless there's any strong evidence to the contrary. Heimstern Läufer 20:49, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
(another edit conflict) Well, Pittsburg, CA (yes, CA, not PA) is in almost the same location and it's got more people than Cornwall, ON. So it's not a regional thing. Still looking for Cornwall's population. --Jay (Talk) 20:50, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Or the Google search. The Canadian is first. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 20:51, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
(still being edit conflicted since Heim's comment...) It's impossible to know for sure the sender's location. Therefore we're simply left with what's more likely, in this case it's the Canadian Cornwall because it has a larger population, and therefore more possible senders. In that case, the sender simply decided to give their City and Country, instead of City and Province, or City Province and Country, which isn't unheard of. Thunderbird 20:53, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Another thing, guys: I drive though that part of California to get to my parents' house every few months and have still never seen a sign or anything that says "Cornwall". Heimstern Läufer 20:54, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Okay, whatever. I grant that it's a small town, given that I'm having so much trouble finding info on it. But before today I'd never, ever seen "CA" used as an abbreviation for Canada outside of webdomain names. And I still remain unconvinced until I see a population chart showing its population to be zero, or Cephas himself arrives and posts here. --Jay (Talk) 20:58, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
The GPS cordinates I found via the link Jay provided [1] don't give me a place called Cornwall on the same GPS cordinates on Google Maps nor on many other map programs. They all return Pittsburg, California. Additionally, Cornwall is not mentioned in Wikipedia's Contra Costa County, California article. -- Tom 21:17, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Huh. Maybe the town is very (very) new, now a part of Pittsburg, or the site I found made it up? If that's the case, my apologies. Still... "CA" as an abbreviation for somewhere other than California isn't what I'm used to. --Jay (Talk) 21:29, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
More evidence: a guy from the forum who claims to be none other than Cephas himself. See his post. Could he be an impostor? Theoretically, but why would an imposter tell people that he lives in Canada, not California, and that SB pronounced his name wrong, as Cephas does in his post? Heimstern Läufer 21:38, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
One o' these days I ought to join the forum. Okay, I concede, false alarm, just a slight incongruity between what I expected and what actually happened. Carry on. Carry on, dang you! :p --Jay (Talk) 21:43, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Ah, nice catch Heim. Guess that lays it to rest. Thunderbird 21:47, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Intro question

This sentence seemed unclear when i was copying the intro to the Alpha-list page: what does whether they are featured or not, mean here? --Stux 17:25, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

It means whether or not they are the e-mail Strong Bad answered (Ow, my lack of better wording!). For example, in other days, the e-mail from Janus is in that e-mail, but is not featured. --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 20:23, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

vacation

Should we include Strong Bad's made up email in vacation? You know, the one in the Two Cars, Tennesee postcard? I think we should, but that might be because I'm from Seattle... --Mario2.PNG Super Martyo boing! 20:18, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

senior prom

I do wonder how much evidence we have where the sender of the senior prom email is from. Especially since WA can mean either Washington (state, for you East Coasters) or Western Australia. Given there are no clues in the email, it could be either. It there any way to indicate on this page about this uncertainty? wbwolf (t | ed) 17:47, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

In spite of me being wrong with the Cornwall thing above, I think that this is a reach. The vast majority of sbemails come from Americans, and I live in Washington; it really is WA. Without context or evidence to the contrary, we may as well leave it as Washington - perhaps with a note that it COULD be Western Australia at best. --Jay (Talk) 17:51, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
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