Talk:Lesser Value

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This is a common phrase and is not used in an unusual manner. The one possible expection is part-time job where he says that you get a free cup of ice with purchase of another one of equal or lesser value, meaning that the free thing you get is of GREATER value than what you paid for. Even that one instance doesn't seem THAT unusual though, it seems more like Strong Bad is just half-tweesing it and kinda just jumbling his lines. — Defender1031*Talk 01:59, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

No one ever says "equal or lesser value" as far as I've heard my whole life. Wolf O'Donnel 05:59, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Ok. I guess I must've been confused. Go ahead and delete. Wolf O'Donnel 06:05, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

I think it's easy to miss how non-standard the usage of the phrase is here. Please refer to Defender1031 of two years ago. ;) I myself had to look at this a few times before gaining a better understanding of what was going on. The part-time job entry is the same: the goal of such a sale is to guarantee a minimum purchase value, not a maximum. Even the Cool Things entry by itself is weird: the usual practice is that you'd be able to exchange a return for something of equivalent value at the very least! --Stux 08:48, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Wasn't there a cartoon where they're looking through a graveyard and Bubs points out a dead relative who invented the term? Wolf O'Donnel 00:27, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

I think you're thinking of Most in the Graveyard where Bubs says "There's my great-great-grandpappy's cousin Harold! He discovered the bait and switch! Ooh, and this is his brother Mort! He invented 'no money down'." This phrase doesn't appear. — Defender1031*Talk 00:40, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Why am I cursed with Mandela all of the sudden? Wolf O'Donnel 03:39, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

I agree with DeF. This should be deleted. -50.234.189.45 11:34, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Agree. Vote delete. -- Bleu Ninja 16:49, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

If we're "voting" I would like to re-iterate that my points from back in December are, in my opinion, quite valid and constitute good reason to keep the page. I have not read anyone provide any kind of constructive criticism or support of my statement. Is it even being taken into consideration when "voting" delete? Keeping a page shouldn't be a matter of opinion but rather of the page's merit. --Stux 22:44, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

I feel two instances of a joke doesn't make it notable (and personally I tend to be a little strict when judging "does this deserve an article"). The article for part-time job could have a note about how "the reversed quantities in the phrase with the purchase of [...] equal or lesser value previously appeared in the King of Town Character Video" in the fun facts. But the fact that people in this very page have overlooked how the phrasing is backwards suggests to me that it was a goof that happened to occur twice rather than a deliberate running gag. And even if "offering combo deals if you buy something cheaper" is a notable gag, the joke in Cool Things is an entirely different joke so it doesn't come across as a "strange variant" like the first two. So all in all we have a nonstandard phrasing that popped up twice, in passing, with no images, in an article that is not linked anywhere else, with content that is already covered in the extant Fun Facts sections - to me it doesn't add up to "articleworthy". -- Bleu Ninja 23:35, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I've been meaning to reply (after studying your response) but time has flown by. Please give me a few more days (hopefully less) to form a proper response. Thanks for your patience! :) --Stux 11:23, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

My thoughts are basically the same as Bleu’s (thank you Bleu for articulating them so well). -61.204.232.1 11:26, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

As are mine. RickTommy (edits) 03:37, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

yeah, this isn’t a running gag. It was only used 3 times and is something used a lot in conversation. I think I will delete this page. TMBGLOVER 00:11, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Three is typically considered the minimum for a running gag page. The question isn't how often it's used, it's whether it qualifies as a gag. Truth is, if the Cool Things example was inverted from standard logic as the other two are (what is written on this page at present doesn't make it clear that The King of Town Character Video's logic was inverted, but it was) then I'd give a hard "yes". But without that, I'm... hesitant. --Jay (Talk) 05:58, 2 March 2023 (UTC)