Talk:Ages of Characters
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Some of the statements in this page need citation. For example, how do we know the relative ages of the Brothers Strong?
- Strong Bad calls Strong Sad "his baby brother" a lot, and Strong Mad his "big brother." TheYellowDart—(t/c)
I know different town establishes that Strong Sad is Strong Bad's "baby brother", but what's the earliest mention of this? And where is it established that Strong Mad is older than Strong Bad? - Qermaq - (T/C) 
22:09, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- I know in the facts Strong Bad calls Strong Sad "baby Storng Sad" and Strong Mad "biggest bro". And I know there's other places where this is implied. TheYellowDart—(t/c)
The Cheat
I don't follow the logic why The Cheat is supposed to be likely not 43 based on the fake ID. It's pure speculation. Loafing
03:24, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- If we accept that all the rest of the info on the ID is false (after all, it is a fake ID), then we can also assume that that piece of info is likely false. It could be true, yes. Frankly, I wanted to clean it up, but I'm not personally in support nor against it. - Qermaq - (T/C)
03:33, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- It's a fallacy. We know the ID is fake, but we don't know if all of the information on it is true or false. Loafing 03:36, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, in one sense it is a logical fallacy, I fully agree. In another sense, though, as this is a constructed world, it's likely that all the elements of this ID were intended to be absurd. How would anyone aside from Homestar be deceived into thinking this was a description of The Cheat in any way? Secondly, if it's a fake ID, why would he need one with his real age, as IDs are generally needed to verify age? (An argument here could be rooted in the immigration and other similar laws in place in the US and other nations.) Finally, Strong Bad's line saying the ID purports him to be a "43-year-old miner" - the tone seems to indicate (to me) that both of these are way off. - Qermaq - (T/C) 03:42, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, Strong Bad's tone is a more convincing argument. I'm not sold on this proving that The Cheat is underage, though. Even Bubs has a fake ID (even if it's cancelled), and he clearly seems to be an adult. I guess you can use fake IDs to do all kinds of business scams. And doesn't The Cheat look a bit alien to you? ;-) Loafing 03:48, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, Strong Bad's tone is a more convincing argument. I'm not sold on this proving that The Cheat is underage, though. Even Bubs has a fake ID (even if it's cancelled), and he clearly seems to be an adult. I guess you can use fake IDs to do all kinds of business scams. And doesn't The Cheat look a bit alien to you? ;-) Loafing
- Yes, in one sense it is a logical fallacy, I fully agree. In another sense, though, as this is a constructed world, it's likely that all the elements of this ID were intended to be absurd. How would anyone aside from Homestar be deceived into thinking this was a description of The Cheat in any way? Secondly, if it's a fake ID, why would he need one with his real age, as IDs are generally needed to verify age? (An argument here could be rooted in the immigration and other similar laws in place in the US and other nations.) Finally, Strong Bad's line saying the ID purports him to be a "43-year-old miner" - the tone seems to indicate (to me) that both of these are way off. - Qermaq - (T/C)
- It's a fallacy. We know the ID is fake, but we don't know if all of the information on it is true or false. Loafing
- Well, "logically", if Strong Bad is so sure that The Cheat's birthday isn't the day on the fake ID, then we can be equally as certain that he isn't 43 either. --Jay (Gobble) 05:09, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, with that extra bit of information, it makes perfect sense. Loafing 05:18, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, with that extra bit of information, it makes perfect sense. Loafing
- BTW, since when was Bubs' ID confirmed to be fake? Cancelled, yes, but fake? --Jay (Gobble) 05:12, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Hmmm, I just remembered it to be fake. Maybe I thought that "Very Official" was meant to be ironic. Loafing 05:18, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Hmmm, I just remembered it to be fake. Maybe I thought that "Very Official" was meant to be ironic. Loafing
Trogador Bday
Although Troggie's and Stinkoman's birthdays are known, that doesn't make them 3- they just debut 3 years ago. What does everyone else think?
- In Happy Trogday. Stinkoman says, "Hey! My birthday was last week! I don't see anyone making any Stinkoman-shaped pancakes!" In addition to claiming that his birthday is on January 6, I think he's also insinuating that Trogdor's "Trogday" is Trogdor's birthday.
Trey56 23:42, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not saying it's not their birthdays, it just that they weren't neccessarily their first birthdays. They could have existed before their debuts. Oh, and that was me.-LordQuackingstick 23:45, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, I see what you're saying. I do think TBC mean for Happy Trogday to be Trogdor's third birthday, from this screenshot. Trey56 00:13, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, I see what you're saying. I do think TBC mean for Happy Trogday to be Trogdor's third birthday, from this screenshot.
- Explanation for this edit: If you accept that Happy Trogday is claiming to be Trogdor's birthday, then I think it directly follows that Stinkoman's first birthday was the week before Trogdor's. This is why immediately after the screen showing Trogdor wearing a party hat with the number "3" on it, the screen shifts to Stinkoman and he complains that no one celebrated his birthday the week before. I think it's reasonable to infer that this birthday is also his third, since Strong Bad really did create both of them exactly three years beforehand. Trey56 01:36, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
- I agree that we know Trogdor's first b-day, (making him currently 3), but I still don't think that japanese cartoon was necessarily Stinkoman's first. I guess I'm equating Trogdor's age with something like "dog years", whereas Stinkoman ages, well, in human years. And it just doesn't add up for him to have the physic of a fully grown man at the age of 3... Even though it's just a cartoon... Made up by a cartoon no less... (my wording is terrible, but you get the jist). kai lyn 01:44, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
- (I'm kinda struggling here). I suppose, even though we did sort of witness Stinkoman's creation, that maybe he was already existing, (in a parallel universe), or will exist, or whatever. I think it's sort of like Senor Cardgage, (at first, we weren't sure if he was his own entity, but know he is...) Sorry, this's all's I gots... kai lyn 01:49, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
- I see your point about his full-grown-ness, but I think that it just means that he was "born" full-grown, just like Trogdor. I'm just one voice, though. If there's consensus the other way, I'm okay with removing it. Trey56 02:11, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
- I see your point about his full-grown-ness, but I think that it just means that he was "born" full-grown, just like Trogdor. I'm just one voice, though. If there's consensus the other way, I'm okay with removing it.
- Okay, I'm already regretting typing this, but what the heck! (I'm laughing at myself right now, just so's ya know's)... There is a baby Trogdor featured on some baby clothing, (*oh brother...I am so sorry!*), leading me to believe that he was born a baby, and just matured fast, like most reptiles, (let me once again apologize). We saw Strong Bad create Trogdor's adult visage in "dragon".... But I also see your point, Trey! kai lyn 02:21, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
