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*'''Decline.''' Hmm... why does everybody NOT use "Decline" and "Accept"? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:26, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Hmm... why does everybody NOT use "Decline" and "Accept"? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 04:26, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I seriously doubt it had a thing to do with Mother's Day. And yes, there was a Mother's Day cartoon back in 2001. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:04 7 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I seriously doubt it had a thing to do with Mother's Day. And yes, there was a Mother's Day cartoon back in 2001. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 05:04 7 May 2005 (UTC)
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*'''Decline!''' If they were really planning a Mother's Day cartoon, they would make it tomorrow, not the week before. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 13:08, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
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HRWiki:STUFF
The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the Strong Bad Email virus. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can Select The Usable Fun Facts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you can still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's fun and/or factual, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.

Check out The Archives and the over STUFF'd page for old fun facts that have moved on from this page.

Things that always make good fun facts:

  • References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
  • References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pokémon, for instance)
  • Verified tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:

  • Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
  • Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
  • Things already noted in the transcript
  • Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript
  • Things that become easily dated. ("Other then those past two times, this is one of the few times that ____ happens")

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't necessarily true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to StrongBadZone, then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add {{funfacts}} directly under the == Fun Facts == heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is very long, you may want to add a {{funfacts2}} footer to the end of the list as well.

Voting

New votes cast should generally be as follows:

  • Accept. To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
  • Revise. The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
  • Rewrite. The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.
  • Decline. Reject the fun fact completely.
  • Second. Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms delete and keep are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

Remember: you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, create one. It won't bite you.

You must sign the listing or vote added after your comment with four tildes (~~~~). If you don't, your vote will not be counted.

To be done

  • How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. (furrykef's current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
  • Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)

Toons and E-mails

garage sale

The first mother's day toon?

All of the mom jokes in this email is probably because this was the last cartoon before Mother's Day (second Sunday in May).

  • NO'D! Donny vs Universe
  • Second--User: Lappy 486 Lappy 486 03:04, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. Oops, I just remembered about "A Mother's Day Message". I guess this wouldn't be the first mother's day 'toon. --Hamrodrunner 03:19, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Nay 71.110.2.216 03:43, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. Hmm... why does everybody NOT use "Decline" and "Accept"? --Gafaddict 04:26, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I seriously doubt it had a thing to do with Mother's Day. And yes, there was a Mother's Day cartoon back in 2001. --Upset_Your_Balance 05:04 7 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline! If they were really planning a Mother's Day cartoon, they would make it tomorrow, not the week before. --thatkidsam 13:08, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

comic

CORRECTIONED

the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." or "in the United States alone, someone suffers a heart attack every 20 seconds" or "in the United States alone, someone starts a new home-based business approximately every 10 seconds." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for comic

  • Revise Too many examples. maybe just the first example. everything after "brain tumor every 20 minutes" can be discarded. --user: Lappy 486 May 2 9:25
    • Second It is too long, but does make sense. Ramrod 02:42, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • ok fixed Ganome 03:21, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Proposed Revision: the line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is more likely a reference to public servce anousments like "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes." than a reference to the closing lines of The Naked City ("There are eight million stories in the naked city. This has been one of them.") as listed on the page for comic
  • I'm...hesitant Then why the use of "This is one of them" if its not a Naked City reference? Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. This is a Naked City reference! -- 13:33, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Too long, Clanky. Toooo longgg. Seriously, cut out like 5 lines of this fun fact. One example should do. Rudeboy87 14:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise: The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" is a reference to statistics such as "In the United States Alone, a lame fun fact is written every 8 seconds." as well as to the famous line from The Naked City, "There are eight million stories in the Naked City. This has been one of them." PolarBoy 16:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • ACCEPT and delete Naked City Fun fact and then once that happens rewrite it so it's a fact and not a correction.TK600 20:15, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise. Should go something like this: --Gafaddict 04:28, 7 May 2005 (UTC) 
The line "In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds.
This is one of them," is a parody of public service announcements, which have similar lines
(such as, "In the United States alone, someone dies from a brain tumor every 20 minutes.")

sugarbob

In correlation with another STUFF'D fun fact

One of Strong Bad's "girlfriends" types "LMAO." The A stands for a mildly offensive swear word. This is the second reference to swearing on the site. (The first was Strong Bad typing "What the f" in trevor the vampire.)

  • Decline. So what? --ISlayedTheKerrek 19:49, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. This is the second time? Ack! I usually kills these things before they can get STUFF-ed. -- tomstiff 20:42, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. →evin290 20:46, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • You, my friend, just bought yourself a decline Come on. It's bad enough when we have to vote on the "What the f" fact. I strongly doubt this is really the second time - and even if it is, who cares? --Jay (Talk) 21:36, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. "Damn," "Hell" and even "Friggin'" could also be considered swears by some, and these are used a on the site. TK600 23:09, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
      • third in the egg in comic there is a 45 of Mudhoney's "You Stupid Asshole" Ganome 00:53, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Revise I like the first 2 sentences. everything after that can be discarded. --user: Lappy 486 May 2 9:30
  • God, why are people so fugging obsessed with catolouging every blasted thing in the HR universe? Its bad enough there are facts like "This is the first time Marzipan raises an eyebrow". Jeez, Decline so hard you'd think there were two of 'em. Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. thats all i can say Decline Decline Decline!
    i mean whats the point yo?!? --djm1791 07:31, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Declinate without pizzaz and JAM! --Upset_Your_Balance 09:46, 4 May 2005 (CST)
    • Best decline ever. They tell me not to, but I still seconds it! Rudeboy87 15:01, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Surprisingly, "crap" is also a mildly offensive swear word. Shall we count those too when we see whether this is the 2nd or not? --phlip 16:13, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Who cares? </carl> Decline Dasrik 19:54, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-clined. Bonk
  • If the trevor the vampire one gets declined, this one should be too. Pom-Pom! And! Strong Bad! Are! Totally! Declining! --Kiwi 14:50, 6 May 2005

garage sale

Aunt Gert

Aunt Gert being sold for 22½¢ could be because she was used in sb_email 22 when Strongbad was making fun of the English.

  • Um, hang on a sec... Come now, Spud Jr. What would Spud Sr. think if he saw your repulsive grammar, "could be say she". I seriously suggest to whoever posted this to listen to some serious Strong Bad Rhythm 'N Grammar, and then get some serious Clown Care, man. Cheatachu72 May 2 2005
  • That's funny, Cheatachu. But we don't actually have to vote on this, do we? If we do, I'll bet one can guess what my vote would be. — It's dot com 00:10, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Wait... there's a connection? Really. I don't even come close to seeing it. --Jay (Talk) 00:25, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Wait, is there a decline. Why, my young lad, I believe there is 4. And, if it were to be used in an email 22.5, that would mean it would have had to occur BETWEEN email 22 and 23. Plus, unless I'm mistaken,the doll was supposed to sell for $.25 -- Posted by: -erson Talk 00:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept..wait no! You turned that all around on me! I think this has potential to be the worst fun fact ever submitted. Ever. EVER. Donny vs Universe
    • "This is pretty much the worst video ever made." "Napoleon, like anyone can even know that."
  • DECLORNED! Actually, the "it's 25 CENTS" thing would be fine, if it made sense. Because the RQ Box-boat costs $1.04, for email $104. But still this Fun Fact is extremely stupid, but not as stupid about the one saying Sterrence was a reference to Terrance and Bloo. -- Joshua 01:48, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Wait! Maybe TBC have sent a secret message telling us that there's an as-of-yet undiscovered Easter Egg in ... awww, never mind! Declined. -- tomstiff 13:33, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. I sense an early verdict for this one. --ISlayedTheKerrek 19:51, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Declined i just dont know why we have to vote anymore it shoud be verdicted!!! --djm1791 07:37, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Because it's not May 16.
      • Who cares? This one never should have been STUFF'd in the first place, just outright delorted. Its horrible! Donny vs Universe
  • Worst... fun fact... ever. Declete. Dasrik 19:51, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Ooh! Ooh! I think I finally figured out what they meant. They meant Aunt Gert may have featured in the fictitious email that was banned in the UK, not the sbemail_22 that we see on the site today. All the same, it's just speculation. Decline. --phlip 04:26, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • File:DECLINED!.JPG - T.C.

Are ALL the prices (except where otherwise noted) related to e-mails?

Except for the candle, the egg carton, Aunt Gert, and unpriced items, all prices refer to the number of the email in which the item first appeared.

  • I think this needs to be revised, just because I don't really consider army to be the official Cheat Commandos debut (despite Firebert's debut). To me, they officially didn't come around until Cheat Commandos Commercial. --ISlayedTheKerrek 19:14, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Regardless, the first time we saw a Cheat Commando was in "army". That being said, I don't know that CC toys have ever been seen in an email. -- tomstiff 19:24, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
    • From the DVD commentary for army: MATT: "So, this is, uh, where Cheat Commandos comes from."
  • There are enough I've seen for me to believe it, but maybe somebody should investigate (maybe put it up on the project page). If it's true, totally 100% accept As of now, I'd say weak accept. - AtionSong 15: 56 4 May 2005
    • As stated in the main article, Swiss Cake Rolls first appeared in email #41 invisibility. It doesn't appear as if the statement is 100% correct. Maybe a more general statement is "all prices refer to an email in which the item once appeared." Doesn't quite cover the the Helicopter and Troop Transport, though. --tomstiff 21:16, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. Possibly with the revision, "...in which the item appeared, in most cases for the first time." — It's dot com 22:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept with note The Swiss Cake Rolls were probably a mistake, and the numbers are consistent with everything else (sure, the Cheat Commandos toys didn't actually appear in army, but since they all got the same price, the Firebert connection is easy enough to make. If they weren't in army, their first appearance was at least inspired by it.) --Jay (Talk) 22:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Maybe change "...army, which introduced The Cheat Commandos" to "...army, which inspired The Cheat Commandos" in the list below it. --phlip 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Second exactly --user: Lappy 486 6:21 May 5
  • Third... ya --djm1791 06:27, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. I say leave the fact as is. Complications are mentioned on their individual items, where they belong. -- Joshua
  • Accept I dunno, but it looks like itr may have been edited since some of these "rewrite" posts were made, and I like it the way it is right now.TK600 19:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Legless

Strong bad is legless when he says "Up-up-up! Moms only!" in the easter egg in the swf.

  • Decline I don't really think this is a goof since you can only see it in the .swf... and he doesn't say "up-up-up"No Smorking 20:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 20:40, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Third --djm1791 07:38, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline. This one isn't even worth voting on. We have a long-standing policy that missing body parts outside the Flash frame are neither glitches nor goofs. — It's dot com 20:45, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Declorned Goofs in the flash file don't count The_Pardack
    • Comment. This isn't a goof at any level. I'm no animator, but I certaintly wouldn't waste time on legs if I knew they'd never been seen! -- tomstiff 19:26, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Let's draw the line. Some things just aren't worth pointing out. Delete Dasrik 19:53, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
  • BOOO You can say the same thing for, oh, every H*R cartoon ever made. The Brothers Chaps don't bother animating body parts that don't show up anyway - what would be the point? Rudeboy87 01:25, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Have you seen the "Making of" for big Hollywood movies? Like how the sets are all sort of half-done? Wow, a lot of those directors must have goofed really badly when they forgot to build the sets where the camera's never going to point at them... --phlip 01:17, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • adu adu adu adu adudududiggadiggadiggadiggaDECLINED!!! normally I wouldn't be this harsh, but this is just "really dumb and bad." TK600 19:48, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
  • File:DECLINED!.JPG - T.C. (Prepare to see this a lot.)

Senor Mortgage

Potential reference

The phone number 555-55-55855-55-5-SENOR-MORT-GAGE-TODAY could be a potential reference to a phone number in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, which is 1-555-55-5-55555-555-5555.

  • Decline. The whole point of the bit was to lampoon poorly made advertisments run in the middle of the day when few people are watching TV. These commercials typically end in some anoyingly catchy jingle that includes the toll- free phone number, which more often than not has the name of the business embedded among a series of repeating or sequential numbers. -- The Real Zajac 11:30, 2 May 2005 (PDT)
    • Second. -- tomstiff 18:34, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. "Potential reference"! — It's dot com 00:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Agh! "Could be"! --acekirby13 20:33, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. If it's a could be, then it's not really a fun fact. It's just guessing. Ramrod 02:46, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • The too long phone number gag is not exclusive to Hitchhikers. Decline Donny vs Universe
  • Declined One is not a reference to the other. Both are a seperately reference to the fact that in <a style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=22&k=old%20movies" onmouseover="window.status='old movies'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=; return true;">old movies</a>, <a style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=22&k=phone%20numbers" onmouseover="window.status='phone numbers'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=; return true;">phone numbers</a> always started with 555- (since no area in the US at that time had that prefix). Another words, it's a coincidence. --phlip 12:42, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • This fun fact is OVERRR!!! Seriously, "could-be's" are not cool. Rudeboy87 14:44, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Deep-42'd. --Beatfox 21:32, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
    • TWO'nd!As much as I like H2G2, I have to disagree. TK600 23:06, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • DECLINED! - T.C.

personal favorites

Best Email Ever?

It is odd that Strong Bad doesn't mention your friends in which he says that it is "the best E-mail I have ever received."

  • Someone keeps adding this to the page, and it keeps getting taken off, I thought it would be more appropriate here. Personally I'm ambivalent about it, what do you think? --phlip 00:56, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Rewrite It's not written in NPOV. I suppose I was being a little stubborn about it, though. --Jay (Talk) 02:24, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second Howabouts: "In your friends, he comments that it is "the best email I have ever recieved." However he doesn't mention it as one of his favorites here" --phlip 02:41, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
      • Second. Both of you are right, I should have been more careful of wording. -- SBEmail22 12:45 AM, 3 May 2005 (EST)
  • I don't think it was TBC intention for Strong Bad's comment to be official. Doesn't he also claim that The Basics is his favorite e-mail? Most of the e-mails in Favorites were made up anyway. Decline Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. Actually, in "your friends," SB said that the email he received was the best. In "personal favorites," he's talking about the entire email shows. There's a difference. Even if there wasn't, I still think this fun fact is too sketchy to be desired. -- Joshua 01:51, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline He loves all his emails like his childrens. Thus, picking certain emails should not make us think that he really values them more than those not mentioned. Or are you calling Strong Bad an unloving father?? or.. mother? or.. ew! MetaStar 05:33, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment. I disagree. If that were the case, logically he wouldn't have answered that e-mail, or he wouldn't have stated what his favorites were. -- SBEmail22 1:59 AM, 3 May 2005 (EST)
      • Comment. I disagree with your disagreement. That is the case, because logically he said so. Those were (close to) his exact words. His disclaimer was pretty much designed to discourage people from thinking that he was splitting emails into 2 classes.
  • WASSUP! I DECLINE. Strong Bad has a record of being rather indecisive about his favorite email. your friends, the basics, and the fake emails from personal favorites have all been named his favorites... I think it will always be a mystery. Rudeboy87 14:50, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
  • DECLINE! This is a cartoon! Inconsitencies are okay and really dont have to be singled out and noted. Besides, the whole "this is the best email I've ever recieved" line is purely for effect, not necesarily as a real comment. TK600 19:51, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Experimental Film

Un Chien Debaser

"Un Chien Andalou" is the inspiration for the song "Debaser" by the Pixies. Frank Black, lead singer of the Pixies, is close friends with They Might Be Giants, and has toured with them.

  • Accept All the links in the chain seem to be true, and even if it's not why TBC used that particular reference it's still an interesting fact. --phlip 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Even if it is true, it has no place on the EF page. Thats a Pixies fact not a Homestar Runner one. Donny vs Universe

Now spell: bound

The scene of Strong Sad shaving is possibly a reference to Alfred Hitchcock's Spellbound.

  • And this fact should possibly be DECLINED! Possibly...puh. Proof. Wheres your proof? Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. Say it ain't so! I thought for sure it was a Gillette Mach 3 referrence! -- tomstiff 08:41, 2 May 2005
  • Standing too close to you in DECLINE Just cuz he shaves does not mean he references a singled-out movie involving a shaving person. Does your dad ever go "hey honey, look at me, look, I'm shaving, just like in that one movie!" --[user: Lappy 486] Lappy 486 03:06, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

The Worst Commentary Ever

In the commentary, "Worst Commentary Ever" is probably a reference to The Simpsons, where the Comic Book Guy is always saying "Worst [something] ever".

  • ... which is in turn a reference to fans everywhere referring to every new episode of everything as the "worst ever". Even the same thing happens on the Emails board here, every email is the worst ever to someone. Besides, he's just complaining that the commentary isn't going to plan. "Worst ever" is a common enough phrase, it doesn't have to be a reference. Decline --phlip 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
  • If he said it "Worst commentary ever" like Comic book guy (I'm talking about tone of voice) would say it then yes, yes it would be a reference. But he didn't, so decline Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. Seconding all the declines before this one and all the ones sure to follow. -- tomstiff 13:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
  • ACSEPd he DID say it with the same rythm worst #stop# comimisairy #stop# ever Ganome
  • DECLINE'D!!! I doubt it...and c'mon, you people know that best/worst something ever is a running gag on H*R. TK600 19:55, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

The Clarke of infinity

The "color of infinity" line in the chorus may be a reference to The Colours of Infinity, a 1995 television documentary by Arthur C. Clarke about fractal geometry. IMDb says: "This show relates the science of the M-Set to nature in a way that seems to identify the hand of God in the design of the universe itself."

  • Decline Even if true, does this belong here? Given TBC didn't write the song and all... --phlip 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second Try posting it here [1] instead. AtionSong 5:37 May 2 2005
  • Maybe, but still decline The line sounds more whimsical than reference-y to me. Donny vs Universe
  • Decline. Moonwatcher had no witty comment to add ... but he would think of something. --- tomstiff 13:48, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Even if it was, this isn't the place to write it. TMBG didn't write the song just for h*r, it's their song. TK600 00:09, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Football helmet = reference?

The shot of the ATM with a football helmet chasing Strong Sad may be a reference to Commander Keen, Defender of the Universe, who wore a helmet with a similar design (mostly yellow with at least one stripe down the middle) when saving the day!

  • Decline The ATM and Keen have nothing else in common that suggests this might be a reference... besides, Keen's helmet has a green and white stripe, not a blue one. --phlip 01:21, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second Donny vs Universe
    • Second Yeah, I thought that at first, but it's not really the same. No Smorking 13:28, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second, third, whatever Huh, I didn't notice that the stripe was not the right color. --NFITC1 23:31, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. Sometimes a football helmet is just ... awww, never mind! -- tomstiff 13:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

current status

Send In The Clown

Ronald McDonald is the clown mascot for McDonald's.

  • Comment. This one has been added and deleted about X0 times. Rather than waste valuable mission time, I STUFFed it. Allez cuisine! -- tomstiff 19:14, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Still Decline What the crap?! This website is about Homestar, not McDonalds. --acekirby13 19:23, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC) My bad...but it's still waaaaaaay too obvious. {Starts singing Everyobody Knows It}... --acekirby13 19:34, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Ah still decline! You're getting more popular as the days go on! Yeah, decline' Donny vs Universe
    • Comment. Remember the context. Coach B complains about his "clown feet" then grumbles something about "Ronald McDonald." -- tomstiff 19:29, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Very Weak Decline. I'm always amazed by what people don't know, but ... something tells me that ol' Ron is pretty well known the world over! -- tomstiff 19:32, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept. It's true, and I don't like to reject outside references on the basis of being too obvious. Aurora the Homestar Coder 22:24, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Second. — It's dot com 13:55, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • I'm gonna second that. --Beatfox 22:14, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Decline Well I do. --user: Lappy 486 27 Apr
  • DUH! cline Me too. Rudeboy87 13:45, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Do you want decline with that? Sorry, this falls under the category of "so obvious (insert name here) could see it." --ISlayedTheKerrek 17:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Is this one of those declined fun facts? Like the ones that Moms and off-shore casinos post?.-- Posted by: -erson Talk 18:07, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Accept Hey! A reference is a reference. Obvious or not! Kvb 19:02, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • But it's too obvious! I quote "but not those that are so obvious that everybody will recognize them" from the things that make good fun facts. --acekirby13 15:11, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Hey! Did you know tha Pikachu is a Pokemon?!? C'mon folks, this fact isn't like the Four Armed Grimace reference. People already know who Ronald is. Donny vs Universe
      • You're using the example from the top of the STUFF page, but it's a bad example (and really should be changed). Many
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