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| - | You can finally edit the wiki once again! You're probably feeling good right now, huh? — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 11:01, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
| + | Hello zombie. In the context of previous discussions you had on this wiki, I can only assume that moving [[Inconsistencies Within the Homestar Runner Universe]] without discussion was trolling. Don't do it again, or you will be blocked.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:49, 8 March 2007 (UTC) |
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| - | :Thanks for leaving me a message. You know, I'm actually pretty indifferent about it, though it ''is'' cool to actually be able to stick it to the man again. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}} | + | :If you sincerely think that's trolling, you're not very smart. If not, you're just a big meanie. :( [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:What is a troll|Read this]] and learn what real trolling is all about, O misguided one. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}} 10:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC) |
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| - | == Why do you have to be so negative? ==
| + | ::You should be aware, and if you're not then I need to make you aware, that ''based on the definitions put forth on the page linked to above, <u>you are a troll</u>.'' In particular:<blockquote>Trolling refers to deliberate and intentional attempts to disrupt the usability of [an online venue, such as a wiki,] for its editors, administrators, developers, and other people who work to create content for and help run [it]. Trolling is deliberate violation of the implicit rules of Internet social spaces.</blockquote> |
| - | Did you listen to a single thing that anyone said about your blockage at all? God, I find it so annoying...It's not the comments, it's the fact that you act like you can't read and overly grudge anyone who ever did anything bad to you ''ever'' mfor something that never even happened! Tom didn't take away everything interesting and start making things up! What are you ''talking'' about?! — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:33, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
| + | ::You should know by now that {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Darth_Katana_X&oldid=378542 nobody agrees with you}} concerning the term "universe" (and, ''come on'', are we ''still'' having that discussion? Can you really not see that it is a perfectly good dictionary word? Can you really not see its widespread and legitimate use in both print and online sources? Can you really not see how it applies to Homestar Runner? Even The Brothers Chaps [[:Image:Sketchbook 3-8-07.PNG|use the term]]. [[Why Come Only One Girl?#Transcript|Often]]. It's time to start agreeing with us on that issue). Therefore, moving the page without discussion because you personally consider the term to be "jargon" (when you are fully aware that the consensus of the other users of this wiki is that it is not a jargon term) must be interpreted by us as intentional disruption. |
| | + | :: If you sincerely think that it's ''not'' trolling, well, I'll let you read your own post. There are [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:What is a troll#Misidentified trolls|several suggestions]] on the page you linked to for how not to come across as a troll when people think you are one. The first one pretty much sums it up well: If people are saying you're a troll because you do a particular thing, don't do that thing. If you ever hope to get along here, then you're gonna have to revolutionize your approach, especially in the area of rephrasing your viewpoints. Namely: |
| | + | ::*You're hostile. By this point, we're all predisposed to disagree with you just because every time you post we have to gear up for a fight. |
| | + | ::*Rather than present reasoned, sourced arguments, you attack us with terms like "fanboy-esque" and make unfounded claims that untold numbers of "users may be turned off" by inconsequential things. |
| | + | ::*When making a potentially controversial suggestion, you poison the well with an edit summary that reads, in part, "Do your worst." |
| | + | ::*You attack the administration and processes of the wiki using underhanded edit summaries like "Big boy with the banning power didn't change a thing". |
| | + | ::*Most recently, you have repeatedly called a particular sysop "misguided" in an attempt to smear his name (or perhaps bait us into a flame war) when in fact you are proving him to be right on the money. |
| | + | ::Over the last year or so, a around a dozen people have written you pages and pages about how to be a better user within this community. Please heed our advice. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:06, 10 March 2007 (UTC) |
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| - | == Dude ==
| + | :::Well, I guess I ''am'' a troll of sorts, but my moving the page was well-intentioned. I think that if I weren't the scum of the wiki, many would agree with my edit. I'm more of a misunderstood WikiAnarchist with good intentions. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}} 18:04, 10 March 2007 (UTC) |
| | + | ::::See, it's not what you want to do (per se) but the way you go about doing it. You shouldn't move a page for the reason you moved it without discussion. Or, given the fact that we have had that discussion ad nauseum, you simply shouldn't have moved the page at all. We really don't need anarchy around here. Please stop being a troll of ''any'' sort. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:36, 10 March 2007 (UTC) |
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| - | Dude, why are you (literally) asking to be blocked? Why burn your bridges here? Just put the keyboard down, man. Nobody's making you post those things on the talk pages. If you want to take a self-imposed break, then we won't stop you, but there's no reason to paint us into a corner where blocking is our only recourse. We'd much rather keep the lines of dialogue open with all users. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:05, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
| + | :::::It had nothing to do with the term or jargon, but that the title is drawn-out and "Inconsistencies" is perfectly concise and is a more natural name for the page. I know I cheese off most of you, but do keep in mind that I am a very lighthearted person and sometimes (most times?) I mean things with ''far less'' extremeness/evilness than they could be interpreted with (like the anti-HRWiki note I left on Wikipedia one time, which I regret). {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}} 18:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC) |
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| - | :Yeah, that was what I was just saying in my reply to Seriously, but then I saw this. I'm clearly taking this site too seriously, being really immature, arrogant and doing more bad for the site than good. Both I and the heads of HRWiki, Inc. will definitely have some time to clear their minds and think about all the stuff that's being debated after I go. I'll just let things that annoy me go and let everyone else think about them until I can learn to be more mature in my debates and arguements. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
| + | == Hey DKX == |
| - | ::Well, I hope you take time to relax and unwind while you take a WikiBreak. If you do, yiu'll certainly use it better than the lest time. XD But yes, we will all miss you, believe it or not. Take care, man. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 01:13, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::Thanks, you too. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}<br/>
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| - | Dude...Why'd you get blocked?--{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 11:37, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :For being the wiki anti-hero, uploading decidedly "anti-HRWiki" images (I never intended such a thing), questioning sysops and defending wiki trolls who are also my friends. To be honest, I probably should've been indefinitely blocked a long time ago. But I've cooled down a lot since then and now I think I can carry on with valuable editing (my comment on an anti-Yelt vandal probably won't fly, though). Thanks for getting back to me. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
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| - | ==Hey, man ==
| + | I'm noticing you're expressing interest in being more of a contributor. i think that's great. You might want to think about being less [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Inconsistencies_Within_the_Homestar_Runner_Universe&diff=prev&oldid=426449 curt] with the people with whom you need to work. I can tell you that [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Qermaq/Talk_Archive_1#Easy_does_it everyone] needs to learn this at some point. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:14, 11 March 2007 (UTC) |
| - | Seems you're back already. Nice to see you editing again! — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:32, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :Heh, thanks. I'm gonna keep my opinion a little more quiet and maybe I'll be heard. (Hey, I'm a poet and I didn't even know it!) {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}} | + | :Thanks for the acknowledgement. It means a lot. Good to see ''somebody'' doesn't identify me as a troll. ;) And yeah, I'll try to be nicer for sure. I am right now! {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}} 06:08, 11 March 2007 (UTC) |
| - | ::Cool. By the way, bravo for staying on the good side of the situation with Yelt. I know he's your friend on Wikipedia, so it's understandable to be on his side. But, like a wiki user with great judgment, you kept on the side of the admins, and Yelt was blocked. He's a troll, and not much more. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:42, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::Wow, I never thought of it that way. Cool. You know he'll be back, though. He's got a bunch of computers and there are tons of libraries with Internet access where he lives, too. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
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| - | Um..is the vandalism thing serious or are you kidding? I vandalized your page just now because I figured it was OK, but then I saw that the other guy who did that got banned...so I wasn't sure. [[User:AlliterativeAssociate|AlliterativeAssociate]] 18:21, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
| + | Darth Katana, I see that you're trying to clean up the article [[Rap]], most likely for the [[HRWiki:Spoken Articles]] project. If you've never heard of this before, it's basically cleaning up featured articles so that we can record them in .ogg later on. Rap isn't on the [[User:Brightstar Shiner/Featured Article Cleanup|list]], but you can keep doing that one anyway. If you'd like to take part in this project, I think it might raise your reputation around this wiki a little more. One final note, though: Please use the preview button so that you don't clog recent changes. Thank you, -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 23:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC) |
| - | :Okay, Chris, whatever. Darth Katana X, you really need to remove that from your page. You should not be soliciting for other people to routinely edit your user page, ever. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:23, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::Huh? My name's Jeff. But anyway, I won't vandalize userpages again even if they ask. [[User:AlliterativeAssociate|AlliterativeAssociate]] 18:27, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::Really, Jeff? Hmm, that's strange. I have no idea how I could have mixed that up. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:28, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::I just looked at the other vandal's (of Darth's userpage) userpage history and it said his name is Christopher. Maybe you were thinking of him? [[User:AlliterativeAssociate|AlliterativeAssociate]] 18:31, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::Chris, do you ''really'' think I can't see the IP of every edit you make? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:35, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::::Oh..you thought I'm Granola? Well..I didnt' want to mention it because I knew he's a troll here and everything, but I'm actually his cousin. I'm using his computer right now because I'm at his house, we came down from Illinois for the summer. [[User:AlliterativeAssociate|AlliterativeAssociate]] 18:38, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::::Ha ha. For the summer. You crack me up, Chris. Crack. Me. Up. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:40, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ....????? I would prefer not to use his computer, given that I don't want to be mistaken for him, but yeah, I'm Granola's cousin, not him. Should I wait until I get back home to edit HRWiki? I'd rather not wait that long. [[User:AlliterativeAssociate|AlliterativeAssociate]] 18:42, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br/>
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| - | Oh. We weren't supposed to do that?<br/>
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| - | {{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 21:05, 23 May 2006 (UTC) | + | |
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| - | :Don't worry, guys! No, really, go ahead and vandalize it and have fun! I'll go vandalize it myself and show y'all that it's really fun! {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}} | + | :I didn't know about that, but it sounds cool. I'll check it out. And sorry for being a messy editor. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}} 23:13, 13 March 2007 (UTC) |
| - | ::But It's dot com said not to. [[User:AlliterativeAssociate|AlliterativeAssociate]] 23:00, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::I don't think he knew that I was serious. Don't worry. Go have fun. He'll probably revert it if he doesn't like it and then it'll be like it never happened. So, I don't see how it's really harming anything. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
| + | == Well, look at you == |
| - | ::::Oh OK. [[User:AlliterativeAssociate|AlliterativeAssociate]] 23:09, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
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| - | I know that you want people to vandalize your userpage, and I understand you're OK with it, but you're going to have to take that note off of your userpage. I know it's all in good fun, but we like it when only the userpage's owner edits the corresponding userpage. It was one of the main reasons that guestbooks were finally banned, which I'm sure you remember. Thanks for understanding. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 23:10, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::I removed it. [[User:AlliterativeAssociate|AlliterativeAssociate]] 23:13, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
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| - | Userpages don't benefit the wiki. They're just there. Therefore, it's not corrupting the wiki. It's just fun. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
| + | There's nothing like lurking the bowels of the HRWiki for the first time in a year and seeing your name again. Glad to see you've matured since your early days. I think we all have. Of course, that is with the exception of the new kiddies. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 17:30, 20 June 2009 (UTC) |
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| - | :Look, your page is not a sandbox; it's not a playground. It is for informing users about who you are and what you do around here. If you don't want any real content on it, then that's fine too, but you can't have a solicitation for people to vandalize it, because it creates edits from people who don't know better, which is what we're trying to avoid. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:32, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
| + | == Homestar Runner (that thing on the computer that your little brother won't stop watching) == |
| - | ::Another words, (ooh, look, there's some another words) take to the fanstuff wiki. Where no one cares. :P - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 00:31, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::It makes no sense that fun has been outlawed on a site about Homestar Runner. I'll try to be as boring as possible from now on. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
| + | ''"Sounds like a good idea to me! I know my little brother won't stop watching it!"''<br> |
| - | | + | I LOL'd. xP {{User:Power Pie/sig}} |
| - | ::::Darth, you shouldn't have that attitude. [[User:AlliterativeAssociate|AlliterativeAssociate]] 01:31, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::Katana, your sarcasm is falling on deaf ears. This site is plenty of fun for those who know [[HRWiki:The Stick|where to find it]]. If you're not having fun under the guidelines the community as a whole has deemed important, then please understand that that isn't our problem. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::Hear, hear. [[User:AlliterativeAssociate|AlliterativeAssociate]] 01:39, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::Katana, this is a knowledge base. Yes, it's fun, but it's not anarchy. This is an encyclopedia of Homestar Runner which attempts to catalogue the various goings on in the H*R Universe in an encyclopedic fashion. The fact that the subject matter is irrevocably silly has no bearing on it. I recommend you check out Isaac Asimov's [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0395572266/sr=8-1/qid=1148436877/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-7722460-1741708?%5Fencoding=UTF8 Treasury of Humor] in which the author discusses the underpinnings of comedy. He discusses comedy in a very cerebral way, but at the same time is still uproriously funny. The humor, however, doesn't interfere with the purpose of the book. That's how this community needs to operate. If you want outright silliness, try the [[hrfwiki:Main Page|Fanstuff Wiki]]...{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 02:18, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::Yes, but you don't go looking at somebody's userpage for knowledge on Homestar Runner, you just do it for the heck of it, and since they do absolutely nothing to benefit the site, we might as well have fun. Also, if we're that strict, then we should change the fanon name "Visor Robot" to "Fhqwhgads Robot" or at the very least let everyone know that we're using a fake name. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
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| - | ::::::OK, I'll go back in time and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Visor_Robot&diff=306136&oldid=306133 add such a note] to the page. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:54, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::::Please go back in time and acknowledge that his name is not "Visor Robot" higher in the page so that people will actually get the point. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
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| - | ::::::Re: ''(Userpages) do absolutely nothing to benefit the site....'' - from [[HRWiki:User space]]:
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| - | ::::::"You can also use your user page to help you use the Homestar Runner Wiki more effectively.... Another use is to let people know about your activities and opinions on the Wiki.... Generally, you should avoid any substantial content that is unrelated to the Homestar Runner Wiki.... Particularly, community-building activities that are not strictly "on topic," may be allowed, especially when initiated by committed users with good edit histories. At their best, such activities help us to build the community, and this helps to build the knowledge-base.... Other users may edit pages in your user space, although in most cases it is done for a specific reason; casual editing of another's user page is discouraged.... In some cases, material that does not somehow further the goals of the project may be removed...."
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| - | ::::::Now, the sysops all know I'm an advocate for stricter enforcement of the above. Still, whether it's enforced or not, the policy is clear: the purpose of userpages is to facilitate meeting the wiki's mission, not to serve as a playground for either the user or other users. I support any action which curtails mere frivolity which cannot be construed as a unique opportunity to better the wiki.
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| - | ::::::Oh, and "Visor Robot" is not a fanon name, it's a ''provisional'' name while we lack a clear indication of whether the character has a legitimate one. (There is no clear indication that "Fhqwhgads Robot" is any more than an adjectival description of one sketch.) {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:23, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::::Okay. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
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| - | Is there a point you're trying to prove? Cause there's a better way to do it. For one thing, I agree with you: the fact that it's a "series" or "web cartoon" or whatever you want to call it is more what someone immediately thinks of than the fact that it's made with Macromedia Flash. But there's a reason for talking about stuff. This is a wiki. Say it with me: Wiiikiiii. That means it's not your private, personal KatanaBadia where you're sole monarch; its a sort of quasi-communist democracy-thing, sort of like a tribal village. This gets into Wikipedia philosophy, not just ours. The point is it's the product of group deliberation and majority consent. (Incidentally, that's why I spend the time on here I do; if I thought it was ''simply'' a bunch of articles about a webtoon it would be a waste of my time. I value it because I see it as a potential lab for people learning to interact with each other in a diplomatic and collaborative way, hopefully as a microcosm of democratic society. My hope is that people's experience here would lead to them voting responsibly, or get into fewer fights because they know how to talk confrontations out instead, and have seen proof that "community" and supportiveness aren't just B.S., they can actually get results. Which, by the way, is also why I want to teach middle school.
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| - | Move the article back and start up the usual discussion on the talk page. So it means a delay of maybe a week. So what? Think grand scheme of things. We're talking about a week, and it's been under this title for two years and nobody's been hurting. You're idea's good (at least I think so (although I might pick a different word besides "series")); if enough people see its merit, the move will happen, voila. If they don't, it means the move wasn't a good idea after all. (I hesitate at continuing a civics tangent, but I just couldn't delete it.
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| - | Part of being in a community means sometimes you get outvoted. You hold a minority opinion. When that happens, you either suck it up and accept your defeat gracefully or—this is tough—if you think your issue too important for you to be silent about, you have to find some way to still "play nice" and maintain caring, productive, civilized, even supportive interaction with your ideological opponents without compromising your belief. The alternatives are:
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| - | # We all try to just carve out our own little domains where we can orchestrate things our way. A society of Robinson Crusoes. Or, the net equivalent, everybody having their own little wiki that nobody visits cause nobody cares cause they're all already in their own little wikis. Low frustration; high loneliness; not a very enjoyable existence.
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| - | # We try to impose our minority view on the majority by force. The problem here is you have no agency, and you just end up jailed as a sociopath. If the minority is enough people it may be successful eventually, but by either influencing the majority through diplomacy and positive methods, or else by separating itself and forming a new society (see 3).
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| - | # Both sides hold their beliefs uncompromisingly but neither is willing to "play nice" about it. We progress to civil war. We end up either with two nations, not on speaking terms (or at permanent war, or with one subjugating the other), or far more likely, with genocide and brutal ideological oppression. I'm sure you can think of at least 10 societies just off the top of your head where this is happening or has happened.<br>
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| - | And yes, there are direct correllations between these macropolitical realities and the interpersonal fabric of this wiki. If we can talk things out politely in STUFF there's hope that, say, America and Iran can sit down and talk already. Every time a user flames another, the world is closer to another Rwanda. Every time someone takes the easy way out and just leaves when they're not getting their way, another statistic in a low voter turnout is born, someone who won't bother voting because he doesn't believe it'll make a difference.<br>
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| - | This world is made up of individual people. You can't secure world peace, but you can befriend instead of intimidate. You cant end gangs in schools, but you can make your friends feel safe and accepted. You can't end teen suicide, or pregnancy, or eating disorders, but you can fight like hell for your friends' self-images against a deadly media barrage and affirm the good and the beauty you see in them. You can't end poverty, but you can chose to do without an iPod or shop at Goodwill instead of Banana Republic, and give what you save to people who are ''dying'' so that we can maintain our "lifestyle." You can't save the world. But you can sure as heck teach middle school. (And engage in "long, drawn-out, stupid," society-modeling and, I hope to God life-changing, discussion on some wiki.) — [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 09:51, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :I'm not even going to say anything because I've already quit the site and I just don't want to. This site ruined Homestar Runner for me and I was never going to visit again, but I was Googling my name and I found it again and I just happened to look at my user page. Don't chew my head off. It wasn't hard for you to revert such a simple edit and I didn't turn this site into "KatanaBadia" either. I was being bold and telling what I thought and whatever else. If you guys prefer everything as stupid as possible, that's your problem. I'm done trying to help anyway. Don't reply because I won't be here to read it. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
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| - | ::You could have at least listened to what he wrote. -_- - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:26, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :What a waste. I had really hoped, Katana, that you would come around to being a team player. Despite your best efforts never to see things from another point of view, never to realize that you are part of something bigger than yourself, we actually have had and are having some very good discussions about your ideas. I wish you could see that. I wish you could see that your "bull in a china shop" approach is never going to win you many friends, and only through great patience will anyone even look past your approach to discern what your ideas are. Calling others' ideas flat-out stupid won't make people listen, either. It's a shame that, through your own decisions, the only way you can make this site better is to leave it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:28, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::I see you mentioned that others were discussing Katana's ideas, and said he failed to notice that. Really, is that so? Perhaps you and some of the other HRWikians failed to notice that he called attention to a possible problem. Whoop-de-doo, you didn't like that he moved the page. It's so, so hard to change it back. It's called being bold (it's a bit ironic that how Wikipedia works has been given as an example in the reprimands he's received, when in fact Wikipedia encourgaes boldness). — Chris (via email) 17:12, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::You missed the point completely. There is a time to be bold and a time [[HRWiki:Standards#Be bold, but know when not to be|not to be]]. Changing the name of that page is no minor thing (from a content standpoint). It deserves to be discussed first. You are correct that reverting it is no big deal. Having a revert war, however, ''is'' a big deal. You and he seem to think that as long as you're convinced that your way is right, then it doesn't matter by what means you achieve it. Vandalism, tactlessness, and arrogance all seem to be on the table. Not even Wikipedia prizes those attributes. Okay, so he brought up a potential problem. So what? People do that all the time, and we now have an ongoing discussion about the issue. Perhaps if at the beginning (or at the very least after the first revert) he had calmly—and with a somewhat neutral tone—brought it up on the talk page, then not only would we have the civil discussion we now have but he wouldn't have felt like he needed to quit. I will reiterate this: It's not necessarily what he has to say but rather ''how he's saying it'' that is turning people off. I know I'm not alone in thinking this, and I have not conferred elsewhere with anyone who has posted in this thread, so it's not a matter of the rest of us ganging up against him. Perhaps it's time for him to consider the possibility that if several other users simultaneously and independently come to the same conclusion on a given subject, and he disagrees with them, then perhaps fantastic diplomacy is called for if he ever hopes to change the situation (and, even more important, he should keep an open mind just in case ''his'' mind is the one that needs changing). In short, no one supports a revolutionary who they don't like. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:50, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::So, I have no idea if you're going to read this, Darth, but I did still want to say it. Why does it have to be like this? A few days ago, I was remarking to myself how I thought you were starting to become a solid member of our community, as I'd noticed you making several productive gnome edits as well as some more major ones. Even when you disagreed over the title of Psuedocharacters, I saw definite improvements in civility over your previous arguments with others. Then along came this revert war and I asked myself, "What happened?"
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| - | ::::Darth, are you aware that even though I'm a sysop, I've had to put up with page names I think are poor several times? [[Obviously Phony Aliases]], for example. I've tried to get that page's name changed, and I just can't seem to get consensus. So I've had to decide to live with that title.
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| - | ::::Don't forget, furthermore, that we really are making as encyclopedia about dumb animal characters, to use TBC's term. Sometimes we may not be able to come up with a perfect title for an article. It's OK when we can't. And if we don't all agree... well, Abdi has already sufficiently explained the concept of agreeing to disagree, I think.
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| - | ::::I guess this is really just a plea to reconsider what you've said and done recently. Perhaps you'll never read it. If not, I hope someone else who needs to hear this will. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:29, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::Chris, who is reading over my shoulder, just sent another ridiculous e-mail to Dot com. Chris, give it up. Do you really think anyone will believe you that the wiki is some kind of police state? [[User:AlliterativeAssociate|AlliterativeAssociate]] 19:20, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::::You know, I wrote a nice, long reply to Chris in which I refuted his claims. The more I thought about it, however, the more I realize that it's pointless to post any kind of response, because neither he nor Katana cares one iota what we have to say. So, Chris, please feel free to go on thinking this is a police state. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:54, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
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Hello zombie. In the context of previous discussions you had on this wiki, I can only assume that moving Inconsistencies Within the Homestar Runner Universe without discussion was trolling. Don't do it again, or you will be blocked. Loafing
20:49, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm noticing you're expressing interest in being more of a contributor. i think that's great. You might want to think about being less curt with the people with whom you need to work. I can tell you that everyone needs to learn this at some point. - Qermaq - (T/C) 
04:14, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
There's nothing like lurking the bowels of the HRWiki for the first time in a year and seeing your name again. Glad to see you've matured since your early days. I think we all have. Of course, that is with the exception of the new kiddies. —
Zelinda 17:30, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
) 10:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
04:14, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Zelinda 17:30, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Pie
