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| - | Here's an entire talk thread ([[User talk:It's dot com/Somebody Told Me (Now I Believe Them)#Vandalism]]) translated into French.
| + | I recently found out that the fanstuff was permanently locked. Okay, maybe not that recently, but still. Anyway, I was kind of miffed that so soon after the wiki's reopening, the wiki was locked. I went to Talk:Main Page and was told to go to Super Sam's talk page for answers on why it was locked. |
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| + | What I saw, quite frankly, shocked and disgusted me. |
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| - | == Vandalisme ==
| + | I hate it when politics forces any good thing to close. This was what seemed to be the case with the fanstuff wiki. The opening of the discussion included a slew of what were, essentially, insults tossed between It's Dot Com and Super Sam. This bothered me. Reading the discussion further, It's Dot Com gave several reasons as to why the closure was necessary, and they came across as legitimate. |
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| - | The thing a récemment vandalisé un wiki. Vérifiez la page de discussion de Benol pour plus d'info. Je propose tu le bloques, par ton régle sur la page principale. Merci. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 16:53, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :Désolé j'<big>ADORE</big> ce wiki le trollant était mon cousin méchant ! Plus il n'était pas ce wiki. Je jure je pleure à ce moment. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:55, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::Vous devriez pensé à cela '''AVANT''' Tu as trollé !!!--{{User:Benol/sig}} 16:58, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::S'il te plaît je suis très désolé ! C'était mon cousin méchant ! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:59, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::Je pleure plus dur que j'ai avant ! :'-( --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:01, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::Je suis désolé. Rien que nous pouvons faire. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 17:02, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::::S'il te plaît j''''ADORE''' ce wiki ! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:02, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::::Tu probablement ne pas bloquer ''Permanentement''.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 17:03, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::::::Je suis très désolé même le dire en mots ! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:05, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::::::Regardez, vous gars. Je suis très sûr que le tout de ce trollant a produ avant Dot com a posté ce message sur la discussion de la Page Principale. En plus, il est maintenant testant ''extrêmement'' dur dissiper le fouillis il a faire, ainsi il manifestement sais que qu'il a fait est faux. Donc, un bloc ''vraiment'' voulez-daire quelque chose aider cette situation ? Je ne pas pense. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 17:06, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::::::::Faire tu verras comment dur je suis testant supprimer le vandalizme ! --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:07, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::::::::Bien gars, The thing a plus de repentir pour ce vandalisme. Serièusement, je propose que vous retenez votre nez dehors des matières que ne pas concernent vous. The thing est actuellement revenir le vandalisme avec diligence extrême, et cette situation est mal comprendré par les deux de Benol et Serièusement. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:39, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::::::::::Il n'était pas que je n'étais pas occuper ma seule affaire, mais j'ai vu un grand nombre des changements à la page de discussion de Benol sur les changements récents et a résolu voir qu'a passé au sujet de cela. J'ai seulement signifié aider, et je suis désolé si j'ai négligé à faire. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 12:34, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::::::::::Je n'étais pas une partie de cela du tout, ainsi je n'ai vraiment pas qu'a passé dans ce cas particulier. Mais je dis cela: j'ai dit une fois avant que j'ai pensé les admins ici était très cléments sur Le Thing, depuis il a une histoire de vandalisme et trollant en le passé, et tout le monde semblons être très rapides le défendre. (Un grand nombre des "je suis désolé"s et "je ne faire pas une fois !"s.) Je ne pas refuse qu'il a fait édites bons ici, aussi, mais je n'ai vu pas la discipline exécuté également à lui à était à autres qui avons faisons trucs semblables, ou moins. C'est un peu frustrant voir. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:44, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
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| - | Tous les vous devriez fairez plaindre à vos professeurs pour ne pas vous appendrant comment lire. Quand vous faites, Sèrieusement et The thing, allez et postez une adresse où je pouvoir envoyer une note à vos parents pour vous faire baby-sitter. Sur la discussion de la page principale, j'ai dit que quelqu'un attrapé vandalisant <u>en notre nom</u> faire traité avec. Je n'ai pas le temps ou les ressources essayer et policer autres wikis. Le message en ce qui concerne autres wikis signifie que si vous vandalisez Désencyclopédie, pour exemple, ''par représailles'' pour quelque chose que passe ici, alors à ce point vous êtes parlant pour ''tous'' de nous ici, et je soucie très bien que vous ne pas faire. Mais vandalisme au hasard ne pas me concerne. À The thing: je ne pas croire que vous pensez le vandalisme est marrant, spécialement depuis vous êtes un administrateur à un wiki. À Sèrieusement: vous devrez apprendre qu'est et que n'est pas importante, et arrêtez étant un cafteur. Et arrêtez parlant pour moi. Dans un lieu, vous dites "N'importe ce que, vous dois bloqué." Vous n'avez pas l'autorité ou l'expérience à être faisant les revendications comme ça. À KieferSkunk: The thing n'a réellement fait pas quelque chose (dans ce cas) endommager notre wiki ou son nom bon, et donc il n'y a pas terres pour le bloquant. (Et il ''a'' eté bloqué récemment par BazookaJoe pour spammant.) À quelque chose qui devrait attendre cela: Arrêtez vandalisant. Arrêtez comportant très immaturement (et ne pas attribuez vos actions sur votre âge; je sais plusieurs collaborateurs bons jeunes). L'utilisation de wiki est ne pas un droit; il est un privilège. Et pour l'amour du ciel, arrêtez excusant. Vous a dites que vous êtes désolé un grand numbre de fois que les mots n'ont pas une signification. Laissez vos actions futures être vos excuses. C'est tout pour maintenant. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:38, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
| + | The sysops leaving was cited several times, but this was easily fixed. Just make new sysops. |
| - | :En réponse à votre commentaire à moi: Je comprends, et je ne demandant pas pour lui être bloqué dans ce cas. J'ai fait un commentaire plus général au sujet de l'histoire de The thing, depuis j'ai eté témoin du vandalisme de lui en le passé et ai voiré gens, même admins, défendant lui et allant dehors de leur chemin raissoner avec lui, au lieu de prendant lui à un vandal. Je n'ai le comprendré pas au temps, et je n'ai pas encore, ainsi j'ai laissé mes commentaires sur le contenu à "je pense que vous êtes étant très clément avec lui". Cet a eté principalement juste une conséquence à cela, plus mentionner que je ne suis pas surprisé que un autre "incident" a apparaîté de quelque chose d'autre. C'est tout. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:26, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::Donc, à moins un compte est étant utilisé pour rien sauf vandalisme, [[HRWiki:Blocking_Policy#Vandalism|raissonant devrais toujours être épuisé]] avant bloquant est exécuté. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:53, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::Juste qui faire vous pensez vous êtes ? ''Faire baby-sitter'' ? Vous savez, c'est ne pas comme j'ai fait quelque chose méchant à vous. Oui, j'ai parlé pour vous. Juste testant aider et le voir dans les yeux d'un admin. Oui, j'ai répondé vos questions de page de discussion pour vous avec réponses de merde. Une fois plus, juste testant aider. Ces trucs ne pas signifient vous doites m'insulter comme ça. Vous savez, je n'ai pas réelement fait quelque chose qu'est mal à vous exprès. J'ai toujours eu respect grand pour vous, et je n'ai pas intentionnellement vous insulté comme vous juste a fait. Vous devrez apprendre comment une misinterpretation simple d'un commentaire sur la discussion de la page principale ne devrez pas une excuse pour jouant comme ça. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:09, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::Quand j'ai vandalisé j'ai pensé vous avez eté supposé vandaliser là. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 23:12, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::À Sèrieusement: En tant que quelqu'un qui a eté un admin plusieurs fois en autres lieux, un truc que je pouvoir dire avec certitude est qu'un grand nombre des admins trouvent très dissuadé et sont facilement irrité par non-admins (et spécialement gens relativement nouveaux) testant parler pour eux. Dictant la politique à autres utilisateurs de la part des admins est d'habitude un non-non à moins vous êtes un admin ou êtes en qui l'on a confiance par les admins à faire. (Manifestement, je ne pouvoir parler pas pour It's dot com, mais si j'ai eté en sa place traitant avec cette merde, c'est comment je devrait trouver.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:17, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
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| - | :::::Et si vous n'avez expeliqué dehors par maintenant qui je suis, Sèrieusement, vous avez problèmes plus profondes que je pouvoir réparer en un après-midi. À Le thing: peu importe, mec. À KieferSkunk: Entendre, entendre. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:23, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
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| - | ::::::Bien. Ici, le temps pour moi avaler mon amour-propre:
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| - | Regardez, Point com, je ne voulu pas être traité comme un bébé. À mon avis, je pense qu'étant un cafteur est la manière faux penser au sujet, et je préfére "combattant les trolls, et testant vous aidez avec votre règle". Oui, j'ai eté irrespecteux à vous. Je juste ai devoir fait prouver mon point et exprimer ma colère à vous. Aussi, je sais que vous êtes un admin. Probablement j'ai ''était'' un peu par-dessus bord avec vous; ce ne pas signifie que que j'ai dit a était entièrement faux. Je signifie, j'excuse, mais ce n'est pas comme j'embrasse votre anneau et solliciter pour pardon. J'ai eté un peu plus provocant que cela prouver mon point. Juste rappelez: J'ai toujours, ''toujours'' testé vous aider, et j'ai déclaré votre commentaire un peu méchant. Juste pardonnez-moi, s'il vous plaît, et laissez ce truc entier disparaître. Bon merci. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:11, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
| + | The lack of quality fanstuff and users was also cited, but as Super Sam pointed out, "When the userbase and general interest has been decimated by 527 days of not-having-a-wiki, of course it's going to be hard to build it back up again." |
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| - | :Sérieusement, a vous étiez lirant ce fil et le comprendant ? It's dot com a dit juste huit de postes vers le haut: "Et pour l'amour du ciel, arrêtez excusant." Vous êtes encore relativement nouveau à ce wiki, et votre expérience a était limité à éditant les pages de Utilisateur et Discussion d'utilisateur. Vous avez dit vous-même que vous donnez "réponses de merde" à les questions que ne pas vous concerner. Quand j'ai inscriré premierment, j'ai monté les conversations comme ça dépiler et a verré comment responsible les admins a réagu. Je n'ai testé pas résoudre les problèmes de tout le monde; j'ai su que je n'ai eu la connaissance. Juste retenez à vous-même pendant quelque temps et peut-être voir que c'est comme faire un peu des contrubutions d'espace principale. (C'est l'idée d'un wiki, vous savez.) {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 00:30, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
| + | I think, ultimately, if It's Dot Com gave the slightest crap about the Fanstuff, it would not be locked. This isn't an insult; it's perfectly fine to not care. However, closing the wiki simply because the old users miss what they created and the new users haven't had time to discover it yet was a poor decision. |
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| - | ::Vous pouvoir supprimer ce poste, s'il vous plaît. {{User:The thing/sig}} 21:33, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
| + | The problem with the fanstuff was an influx of lesser-quality, "Hey wouldn't it be cool if I just made an interactive in five minutes?" articles. The answer to that was the purge. After the purge, people seemed to think there was still a problem, but '''there was only the problem of no time'''. Interest was totally destroyed over the course of 527 days, and when you have a userbase that's stopped bothering to check and has moved on, you need to start treating the wiki as not the bustling community it once was, and more of a fledgling wiki just learning to fly. It's Dot Com gave the wiki no chance. |
| - | :::Pas du tout, José. C'est un des mes fils préférés de tout le temps. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:42, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
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| - | ::::Je ne pouvoir estimer que j'ai écrit "je suis pleuant plus dur que jamais." J'ai eté actuellement juste assez là. mdr {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:21, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
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| - | :::::''Sûr'' vous a eté, vaurien. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:48, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
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| + | If, instead of expecting the wiki and its community to suddenly come back to life, the wiki was treated as if it was new, I think we would still be editing it today. Also, quite frankly, we need the fanstuff wiki back. The hiatus has been hard on those of us fans, and our daily dose of Homestar has been missing for a while. There were lots of great comics, scripts, and interactives at the fanstuff, and since they were all created by fans, they kind of had the same sort of humor the Brothers Chaps use in their cartoons. |
| - | Uhhh, Bupkis? {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 12:36, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
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| - | :J'suis dessus. {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 15:54, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
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| - | ::J'suis fini. {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 16:36, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
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| - | :::I object to the above translation. If I understand the language rules correctly, there's no way I would have used ''vous'' instead of ''tu'' when addressing those two. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:46, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
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| | + | The community was great; the reviews tab was never abused and everyone tried to be constructive. There wasn't a competitive nature around the site, which unfortunately has become the case at so many other social media sites where ratings and views and subscriber counts are the ultimate indication on whether or not you are any good. The wiki's community was vastly welcoming, since everybody was eager to see new stuff. So many other sites have users who won't even look at your stuff unless you have a thousand views or something. The fanstuff wasn't like that. |
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| + | Ultimately, the fanstuff was a great place, and even though it got a little chaotic before the purge, I think it was an essential part of our wiki. I wish the politics of the whole lack of administrative users was a lot more minor than it was, because quite frankly, it was '''not that big of a deal'''. The sysops didn't really need to take any administrative actions because there was little vandalism and the rules hadn't even been set up yet. I wholeheartedly disagree with the opinion of It's Dot Com on this subject, and I hope that one day, the fanstuff might re-open. It doesn't look good now, but if the hiatus ends and new viewers want a place to post their fan creations, there might be a chance. |
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| + | Sorry if I offended, and I know this is probably five months too late, but I just needed to get this off my chest. If anyone wants to respond, I welcome it.--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 05:28, 15 September 2010 (UTC) |
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| - | ==A Wiki without Admins: A horror story (and transcipt format test)==
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| - | <!--Please note that I intentionally broke links and misspelled things. This is a representation on why competent users are important, so I made this badly on purpose.-->
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| - | <big>As a thank-you note to the admins and users out there who have helped protect and maintain this wiki, I'd like to present: ''A Wiki without Admins''.</big>
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| - | [[Image:Webcomic sbemail.png|thumb|200px|Why is he regressed to an earlier email.]]
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| - | Gunkiller and his friends ask Strong Bad for suggestions on making a web comic.
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| - | '''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Strong Sad]], [[The Cheat]], [[Stinkoman|Wesley "Momo" Crusher]]
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| - | '''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Cheat's Computer Room]]
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| - | '''Date:''' Monday, October 8, 2007
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| - | '''Running Time:''' 3:34
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| - | '''Page Title:''' Lappy 486
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| - | '''STRONG BAD:''' Alright guys, we will charge the Homestarmy like cataphracts!
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| - | '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hold it right there, guys!
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| - | '''STRONG BAD:''' Ya?
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| - | '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Have you heard of the HRWIKI?
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| - | '''STRONG BAD:''' Yes, why?
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| - | '''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' IT'S DYING! While we are stuck here, waiting forever for those Brothers Chaps to throw us into another adventure, our Wiki is losing popularity. Soon, it will turn into a crapload of spam and vandalism!
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| - | '''STRONG BAD:''' Can we somehow make those Brothers Chaps throw us into another adventure?
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| - | '''HOMESTAR:''' No, we can't. We'll just have to wait!
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| - | '''HOMESTAR:''' Still nothing! Our universe is fading fast...
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| - | ''{[[New Paper]] comes down, but is eventually wiped}''
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| - | ===Easter Eggs===
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| - | *Tapping the latter Y seventeen times in under five seconds while The Paper is in the process of coming down will grant you an Egg that shows how to type with boxing gloves is done.
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| - | ===Fun Facts===
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| - | *Rather obscure jokes are difficult to discern.
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| - | *This is the only time the Brothers Chaps admitted that a member of the [[Broternal Order of Different Hats]] is a traitor.
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| - | *Marzipan's nationality is in question due to this toon. While she seems to be a native-born resident of [[FCUSA]], Momo informs us that she is, in fact, an immigrant from the United Kingdom.
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| - | **So that is why Strong Bad hates her.
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| - | ***That is specultion for the forums.
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| - | *I hated this toon because it broke up my fan fic romantic pairings.
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| - | **Take it to the forums.
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| - | ====Unforgivable Errors====
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| - | *For a single frame, Momo has no irises. This is most easily seen by zooming in 500% on a high definition moniter.
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| - | ====Self Referential Material that is Cleverly Hidden====
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| - | *Bob Sanderson does sits in a chair, and obvious reference to [[Le Resteige]].
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| - | ====Real World Type Humor====
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| - | *[[wikipedia:Cataphract|Cataphracts]] were heavily-armoured cavalry units that were used by several ancient and medieval civilisations, such as the Romans, Persians, and Byzantines, to charge into infantry formations.
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| - | ====A reference to a thing that is neither inside nor outside and is so awesome,amazing, and amazingly awesome that it would snipe you down with a crazy super force if you even side whispered about his 17 grandma's 8 cousin 11 times removed, so I recommend you keep on the down low untill the universe implodes and the earth folds inside out and your certain everyonewill die, you could time it right and you may tell it so your girlfriend or someone and not get sniped down with a crazy super force as I before described in the second line, If that movie 2010 was right. But wait a minute that movie said that all land on earth will crumble into the ocean so that wouldn't make sense. Anyways, here it is.====
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| - | Ummm, I [[mini-golf|forgot]]
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| - | ===DVD Version===
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| - | ===External Links===
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| - | [[www.hrwiki.org|A totally awesome website.]]
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| - | [http://downloadcenter.intel.com/confirm.aspx?httpDown=http://downloadmirror.intel.com/4235/eng/PRO98M.exe&agr=&ProductID=&DwnldId=4235&strOSs=&OSFullName=&lang=eng Test1.]
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This is an open letter to the administration.
I recently found out that the fanstuff was permanently locked. Okay, maybe not that recently, but still. Anyway, I was kind of miffed that so soon after the wiki's reopening, the wiki was locked. I went to Talk:Main Page and was told to go to Super Sam's talk page for answers on why it was locked.
What I saw, quite frankly, shocked and disgusted me.
I hate it when politics forces any good thing to close. This was what seemed to be the case with the fanstuff wiki. The opening of the discussion included a slew of what were, essentially, insults tossed between It's Dot Com and Super Sam. This bothered me. Reading the discussion further, It's Dot Com gave several reasons as to why the closure was necessary, and they came across as legitimate.
Sadly, I don't think this was the case.
The sysops leaving was cited several times, but this was easily fixed. Just make new sysops.
The lack of quality fanstuff and users was also cited, but as Super Sam pointed out, "When the userbase and general interest has been decimated by 527 days of not-having-a-wiki, of course it's going to be hard to build it back up again."
I think, ultimately, if It's Dot Com gave the slightest crap about the Fanstuff, it would not be locked. This isn't an insult; it's perfectly fine to not care. However, closing the wiki simply because the old users miss what they created and the new users haven't had time to discover it yet was a poor decision.
The problem with the fanstuff was an influx of lesser-quality, "Hey wouldn't it be cool if I just made an interactive in five minutes?" articles. The answer to that was the purge. After the purge, people seemed to think there was still a problem, but there was only the problem of no time. Interest was totally destroyed over the course of 527 days, and when you have a userbase that's stopped bothering to check and has moved on, you need to start treating the wiki as not the bustling community it once was, and more of a fledgling wiki just learning to fly. It's Dot Com gave the wiki no chance.
If, instead of expecting the wiki and its community to suddenly come back to life, the wiki was treated as if it was new, I think we would still be editing it today. Also, quite frankly, we need the fanstuff wiki back. The hiatus has been hard on those of us fans, and our daily dose of Homestar has been missing for a while. There were lots of great comics, scripts, and interactives at the fanstuff, and since they were all created by fans, they kind of had the same sort of humor the Brothers Chaps use in their cartoons.
The community was great; the reviews tab was never abused and everyone tried to be constructive. There wasn't a competitive nature around the site, which unfortunately has become the case at so many other social media sites where ratings and views and subscriber counts are the ultimate indication on whether or not you are any good. The wiki's community was vastly welcoming, since everybody was eager to see new stuff. So many other sites have users who won't even look at your stuff unless you have a thousand views or something. The fanstuff wasn't like that.
Ultimately, the fanstuff was a great place, and even though it got a little chaotic before the purge, I think it was an essential part of our wiki. I wish the politics of the whole lack of administrative users was a lot more minor than it was, because quite frankly, it was not that big of a deal. The sysops didn't really need to take any administrative actions because there was little vandalism and the rules hadn't even been set up yet. I wholeheartedly disagree with the opinion of It's Dot Com on this subject, and I hope that one day, the fanstuff might re-open. It doesn't look good now, but if the hiatus ends and new viewers want a place to post their fan creations, there might be a chance.
Sorry if I offended, and I know this is probably five months too late, but I just needed to get this off my chest. If anyone wants to respond, I welcome it.--
Super Martyo boing! 05:28, 15 September 2010 (UTC)