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Darth, this is another drastic change that must be approved by community consensus. The Homestar Runner Universe it not ''only'' a website. Please cease and desist now. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}}
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Hello zombie. In the context of previous discussions you had on this wiki, I can only assume that moving [[Inconsistencies Within the Homestar Runner Universe]] without discussion was trolling. Don't do it again, or you will be blocked.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:49, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
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:"Homestar Runner universe" is a fanon term and anyone with eyes can see that "Homestar web site" doesn't sound dilusional while "Homestar universe" very much ''does''. Think about it for a moment, if you're telling a friend about Homestar Runner, you call it a "web site" and not "universe." Why? Because unless you're inventing a new religion here, "universe" sounds straight ''weird'' in real life. And it sounds just as weird on the Internet. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
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:If you sincerely think that's trolling, you're not very smart. If not, you're just a big meanie. :( [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:What is a troll|Read this]] and learn what real trolling is all about, O misguided one. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}} 10:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
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::I'm sorry if I sounded harsh. I was a bit panicked at all those changes. But I still disagree with your changes and request that you begin discussion and get consensus rather than just doing it. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:29, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
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:::Alright, cool. I just realized something, you need to be a bit more careful with your words: "the Homestar universe it not ''only'' a web site" sort of implies that the universe actually exists. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
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::You should be aware, and if you're not then I need to make you aware, that ''based on the definitions put forth on the page linked to above, <u>you are a troll</u>.'' In particular:<blockquote>Trolling refers to deliberate and intentional attempts to disrupt the usability of [an online venue, such as a wiki,] for its editors, administrators, developers, and other people who work to create content for and help run [it]. Trolling is deliberate violation of the implicit rules of Internet social spaces.</blockquote>
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::You should know by now that {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Darth_Katana_X&oldid=378542 nobody agrees with you}} concerning the term "universe" (and, ''come on'', are we ''still'' having that discussion? Can you really not see that it is a perfectly good dictionary word? Can you really not see its widespread and legitimate use in both print and online sources? Can you really not see how it applies to Homestar Runner? Even The Brothers Chaps [[:Image:Sketchbook 3-8-07.PNG|use the term]]. [[Why Come Only One Girl?#Transcript|Often]]. It's time to start agreeing with us on that issue). Therefore, moving the page without discussion because you personally consider the term to be "jargon" (when you are fully aware that the consensus of the other users of this wiki is that it is not a jargon term) must be interpreted by us as intentional disruption.
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::&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;If you sincerely think that it's ''not'' trolling, well, I'll let you read your own post. There are [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:What is a troll#Misidentified trolls|several suggestions]] on the page you linked to for how not to come across as a troll when people think you are one. The first one pretty much sums it up well: If people are saying you're a troll because you do a particular thing, don't do that thing. If you ever hope to get along here, then you're gonna have to revolutionize your approach, especially in the area of rephrasing your viewpoints. Namely:
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::*You're hostile. By this point, we're all predisposed to disagree with you just because every time you post we have to gear up for a fight.
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::*Rather than present reasoned, sourced arguments, you attack us with terms like "fanboy-esque" and make unfounded claims that untold numbers of "users may be turned off" by inconsequential things.
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::*When making a potentially controversial suggestion, you poison the well with an edit summary that reads, in part, "Do your worst."
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::*You attack the administration and processes of the wiki using underhanded edit summaries like "Big boy with the banning power didn't change a thing".
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::*Most recently, you have repeatedly called a particular sysop "misguided" in an attempt to smear his name (or perhaps bait us into a flame war) when in fact you are proving him to be right on the money.
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::Over the last year or so, a around a dozen people have written you pages and pages about how to be a better user within this community. Please heed our advice. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:06, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
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::::'''universe''' ''n.'' '''3.''' The sphere or realm in which something exists or takes place. ([http://www.bartleby.com/61/90/U0089000.html source])
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:::Well, I guess I ''am'' a troll of sorts, but my moving the page was well-intentioned. I think that if I weren't the scum of the wiki, many would agree with my edit. I'm more of a misunderstood WikiAnarchist with good intentions. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}} 18:04, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
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::::To describe something as happening in the Homestar Runner universe is a bona fide use of the term. It is a fine word, not fanon. (See also [[Wikipedia:Fictional universe|fictional universe]] at Wikipedia.) Please stop interpreting everything you believe we made up as crimes against nature. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:00, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
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::::See, it's not what you want to do (per se) but the way you go about doing it. You shouldn't move a page for the reason you moved it without discussion. Or, given the fact that we have had that discussion ad nauseum, you simply shouldn't have moved the page at all. We really don't need anarchy around here. Please stop being a troll of ''any'' sort. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:36, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
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:::::I wanted to write this myself earlier, but I was already late for a meeting (crazy Beijing time zone...) Anyway, the reason I believe the term "universe" works fine is that it is a ''fictional universe'', i.e., a complete, somewhat coherent, yet not real existence (yes, I realize that's a bit of an oxymoron). That's my argument for keping the status quo. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:20, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
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::::I disagree with the use of the phrase 'Homestar Runner universe' on this wiki, but not because I consider it 'fanon' or anything. Just because in [[alternate universe]] it was revealed that each reality in the website is a different universe, making the website a "multiverse" of sorts. And I don't suggest we use that term. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:48, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
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:::::That's a good point. Homestar Runner seems to have different "universes" if you even want to call it that. Thanks for not being too strong to accept change. Why even bother trying to make up an excuse for a term that sounds very dysfunctional? Besides, for the non-nerds visiting, it would be a courtesy not to alienate them with use of the language Geek. If you're not a nerd, Homestar Runner is a "web site" to you, not a "universe," fictional or otherwise. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
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:::::It had nothing to do with the term or jargon, but that the title is drawn-out and "Inconsistencies" is perfectly concise and is a more natural name for the page. I know I cheese off most of you, but do keep in mind that I am a very lighthearted person and sometimes (most times?) I mean things with ''far less'' extremeness/evilness than they could be interpreted with (like the anti-HRWiki note I left on Wikipedia one time, which I regret). {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}} 18:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
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::::::Again with the slights. Katana, I am neither a "nerd" nor am I "dysfunctional", yet I have not found a better alternative than "universe" to describe the phenomenon. "Website" is too limiting - what about the CD? The DVDs? However, I agree with Joshua that, since in canon we see that the Homestar "universe" is a bunch of sub-universes, "universe" is sub-optimal. Still, to make a change, we need a viable alternative that isn't reasonably assailable. So, what then? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:15, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
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== Hey DKX ==
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I'm noticing you're expressing interest in being more of a contributor. i think that's great. You might want to think about being less [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Inconsistencies_Within_the_Homestar_Runner_Universe&diff=prev&oldid=426449 curt] with the people with whom you need to work. I can tell you that [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Qermaq/Talk_Archive_1#Easy_does_it everyone] needs to learn this at some point. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:14, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
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:Thanks for the acknowledgement. It means a lot. Good to see ''somebody'' doesn't identify me as a troll. ;) And yeah, I'll try to be nicer for sure. I am right now! {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}} 06:08, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
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== Cleaning Up Articles ==
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Darth Katana, I see that you're trying to clean up the article [[Rap]], most likely for the [[HRWiki:Spoken Articles]] project. If you've never heard of this before, it's basically cleaning up featured articles so that we can record them in .ogg later on. Rap isn't on the [[User:Brightstar Shiner/Featured Article Cleanup|list]], but you can keep doing that one anyway. If you'd like to take part in this project, I think it might raise your reputation around this wiki a little more. One final note, though: Please use the preview button so that you don't clog recent changes. Thank you, -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 23:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
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:I didn't know about that, but it sounds cool. I'll check it out. And sorry for being a messy editor. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}} 23:13, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
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== Well, look at you ==
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There's nothing like lurking the bowels of the HRWiki for the first time in a year and seeing your name again. Glad to see you've matured since your early days. I think we all have. Of course, that is with the exception of the new kiddies. &mdash;{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 17:30, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
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== Homestar Runner (that thing on the computer that your little brother won't stop watching) ==
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''"Sounds like a good idea to me! I know my little brother won't stop watching it!"''<br>
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I LOL'd. xP {{User:Power Pie/sig}}

Current revision as of 21:51, 15 August 2010

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[edit] Page Moves

Hello zombie. In the context of previous discussions you had on this wiki, I can only assume that moving Inconsistencies Within the Homestar Runner Universe without discussion was trolling. Don't do it again, or you will be blocked. Loafing 20:49, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

If you sincerely think that's trolling, you're not very smart. If not, you're just a big meanie. :( Read this and learn what real trolling is all about, O misguided one. Darth Katana X (discussionitem_icon.gif user.gif mail_icon.gif) 10:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
You should be aware, and if you're not then I need to make you aware, that based on the definitions put forth on the page linked to above, you are a troll. In particular:
Trolling refers to deliberate and intentional attempts to disrupt the usability of [an online venue, such as a wiki,] for its editors, administrators, developers, and other people who work to create content for and help run [it]. Trolling is deliberate violation of the implicit rules of Internet social spaces.
You should know by now that nobody agrees with you concerning the term "universe" (and, come on, are we still having that discussion? Can you really not see that it is a perfectly good dictionary word? Can you really not see its widespread and legitimate use in both print and online sources? Can you really not see how it applies to Homestar Runner? Even The Brothers Chaps use the term. Often. It's time to start agreeing with us on that issue). Therefore, moving the page without discussion because you personally consider the term to be "jargon" (when you are fully aware that the consensus of the other users of this wiki is that it is not a jargon term) must be interpreted by us as intentional disruption.
    If you sincerely think that it's not trolling, well, I'll let you read your own post. There are several suggestions on the page you linked to for how not to come across as a troll when people think you are one. The first one pretty much sums it up well: If people are saying you're a troll because you do a particular thing, don't do that thing. If you ever hope to get along here, then you're gonna have to revolutionize your approach, especially in the area of rephrasing your viewpoints. Namely:
  • You're hostile. By this point, we're all predisposed to disagree with you just because every time you post we have to gear up for a fight.
  • Rather than present reasoned, sourced arguments, you attack us with terms like "fanboy-esque" and make unfounded claims that untold numbers of "users may be turned off" by inconsequential things.
  • When making a potentially controversial suggestion, you poison the well with an edit summary that reads, in part, "Do your worst."
  • You attack the administration and processes of the wiki using underhanded edit summaries like "Big boy with the banning power didn't change a thing".
  • Most recently, you have repeatedly called a particular sysop "misguided" in an attempt to smear his name (or perhaps bait us into a flame war) when in fact you are proving him to be right on the money.
Over the last year or so, a around a dozen people have written you pages and pages about how to be a better user within this community. Please heed our advice. — It's dot com 16:06, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, I guess I am a troll of sorts, but my moving the page was well-intentioned. I think that if I weren't the scum of the wiki, many would agree with my edit. I'm more of a misunderstood WikiAnarchist with good intentions. Darth Katana X (discussionitem_icon.gif user.gif mail_icon.gif) 18:04, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
See, it's not what you want to do (per se) but the way you go about doing it. You shouldn't move a page for the reason you moved it without discussion. Or, given the fact that we have had that discussion ad nauseum, you simply shouldn't have moved the page at all. We really don't need anarchy around here. Please stop being a troll of any sort. — It's dot com 18:36, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
It had nothing to do with the term or jargon, but that the title is drawn-out and "Inconsistencies" is perfectly concise and is a more natural name for the page. I know I cheese off most of you, but do keep in mind that I am a very lighthearted person and sometimes (most times?) I mean things with far less extremeness/evilness than they could be interpreted with (like the anti-HRWiki note I left on Wikipedia one time, which I regret). Darth Katana X (discussionitem_icon.gif user.gif mail_icon.gif) 18:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hey DKX

I'm noticing you're expressing interest in being more of a contributor. i think that's great. You might want to think about being less curt with the people with whom you need to work. I can tell you that everyone needs to learn this at some point. Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 04:14, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the acknowledgement. It means a lot. Good to see somebody doesn't identify me as a troll. ;) And yeah, I'll try to be nicer for sure. I am right now! Darth Katana X (discussionitem_icon.gif user.gif mail_icon.gif) 06:08, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleaning Up Articles

Darth Katana, I see that you're trying to clean up the article Rap, most likely for the HRWiki:Spoken Articles project. If you've never heard of this before, it's basically cleaning up featured articles so that we can record them in .ogg later on. Rap isn't on the list, but you can keep doing that one anyway. If you'd like to take part in this project, I think it might raise your reputation around this wiki a little more. One final note, though: Please use the preview button so that you don't clog recent changes. Thank you, -Brightstar Shiner 23:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I didn't know about that, but it sounds cool. I'll check it out. And sorry for being a messy editor. Darth Katana X (discussionitem_icon.gif user.gif mail_icon.gif) 23:13, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Well, look at you

There's nothing like lurking the bowels of the HRWiki for the first time in a year and seeing your name again. Glad to see you've matured since your early days. I think we all have. Of course, that is with the exception of the new kiddies. —Zelinda 17:30, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Homestar Runner (that thing on the computer that your little brother won't stop watching)

"Sounds like a good idea to me! I know my little brother won't stop watching it!"
I LOL'd. xP PowerFile:Homestar Kamikaze Green Favicon.pngPie