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- | Hello, Mycroft --[[User:phlip|World]] 14:31, 18 October 2005 (UTC) <small>''(sorry, I had to after seeing your user page...)''</small>
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- | where did you get mycroft from? heinlein's (sp?) moon is a harsh mistress? [[user:csours]]
| + | Mycroft, I agree that the fact should go, that being said, leave it on the page until it is eaither discussed or STUFFed, and you keep saying that STUFF is where it belongs, yet seem to be too lazy to actually STUFF it yourself. Stop it. Please. This is getting nowhere. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:04, 22 January 2008 (UTC) |
- | | + | :Mycroft, if you revert again, I'm going to have to block you. Edit warring is disruptive and unacceptable. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:05, 22 January 2008 (UTC) |
- | :Mycroft Holmes is the older brother of Sherlock Holmes. The Moon is a Harsh Mistress gets Mycroft Holmes from this too. Either one... [[User:Begone Demon|Begone Demon]] 01:58, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
| + | ::FYI, I will be removing the fact in question to STUFF in a moment.--[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 17:06, 22 January 2008 (UTC) |
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- | == STUFF arguments ==
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- | The STUFF page says, "Do not delete valid arguments (but see notes below); only add them. (You do not have to agree with an argument for it to be considered valid.)" The argument about Mellow Mushroom is perfectly valid. I don't agree with it, but it is still a valid argument. Please stop deleting it, or I will report you to the admins. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:59, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
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- | No, it's not. The MM fact is a stretch at BEST and should have been deleted outright when it was added on October 11. -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 20:00, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
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- | :When on a STUFF page, if a user makes a bad argument, it's still his argument to make. I agree that you shouldn't be deleting other people's arguments, but rather explaining in your own argument why you disagree with it. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:20, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
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- | ::If a STUFF comment is patantly false, it can be deleted with explanation. But it's generally better to <s>strike it out</s> and present your rebuttal. Keeps the peace. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:17, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
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- | == STUFF socks ==
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- | Mycroft Holmes, you have been discovered creating and using sockpuppets to vote in STUFF. The votes have been removed and the usernames have been banned. You have been banned for two weeks. Below is the evidence. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:42, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
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- | ===Edits by your IP===
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- | <h4>18 August 2006</h4>
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- | *(<span class="plainlinks">[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=STUFF:keep_cool&curid=26271&diff=357881&oldid=357875 diff]</span>) (<span class="plainlinks">[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=STUFF:keep_cool&curid=26271&action=history hist]</span>) . . [[STUFF:keep cool]]; 13:18 . . [[User:Harriet Vane|Harriet Vane]] ([[User talk:Harriet Vane|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Harriet Vane|contribs]]) <span class='comment'>(<span class="autocomment">[[STUFF:keep cool#Hey_There.2C_Dairy_Queen|→]]Hey There, Dairy Queen</span>)</span>
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- | *(<span class="plainlinks">[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=STUFF:privileges&curid=26694&diff=357880&oldid=357879 diff]</span>) (<span class="plainlinks">[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=STUFF:privileges&curid=26694&action=history hist]</span>) . . <span class="minor">m</span> [[STUFF:privileges]]; 13:15 . . [[User:Harriet Vane|Harriet Vane]] ([[User talk:Harriet Vane|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Harriet Vane|contribs]]) <span class='comment'>(<span class="autocomment">[[STUFF:privileges#Just_Pick_One.21|→]]Just Pick One!</span>)</span>
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- | *(<span class="plainlinks">[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=STUFF:privileges&curid=26694&diff=357879&oldid=357874 diff]</span>) (<span class="plainlinks">[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=STUFF:privileges&curid=26694&action=history hist]</span>) . . [[STUFF:privileges]]; 13:13 . . [[User:Harriet Vane|Harriet Vane]] ([[User talk:Harriet Vane|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Harriet Vane|contribs]]) <span class='comment'>(<span class="autocomment">[[STUFF:privileges#Just_Pick_One.21|→]]Just Pick One!</span>)</span>
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- | *([[Special:Log/newusers|User creation log]]); 13:12 . . [[User:Harriet Vane|Harriet Vane]] ([[User talk:Harriet Vane|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Harriet Vane|contribs]]) <span class='comment'>(New user: [[User talk:Harriet Vane|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Harriet Vane|contribs]] | [[Special:Blockip/Harriet Vane|block]])</span>
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- | *(<span class="plainlinks">[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=STUFF:keep_cool&curid=26271&diff=357875&oldid=357873 diff]</span>) (<span class="plainlinks">[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=STUFF:keep_cool&curid=26271&action=history hist]</span>) . . [[STUFF:keep cool]]; 13:06 . . [[User:Hugh Beringar|Hugh Beringar]] ([[User talk:Hugh Beringar|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Hugh Beringar|contribs]]) <span class='comment'>(<span class="autocomment">[[STUFF:keep cool#Hey_There.2C_Dairy_Queen|→]]Hey There, Dairy Queen</span>)</span>
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- | *([[Special:Log/newusers|User creation log]]); 13:05 . . [[User:Hugh Beringar|Hugh Beringar]] ([[User talk:Hugh Beringar|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Hugh Beringar|contribs]]) <span class='comment'>(New user: [[User talk:Hugh Beringar|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Hugh Beringar|contribs]] | [[Special:Blockip/Hugh Beringar|block]])</span>
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- | *(<span class="plainlinks">[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=STUFF:privileges&curid=26694&diff=357874&oldid=357668 diff]</span>) (<span class="plainlinks">[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=STUFF:privileges&curid=26694&action=history hist]</span>) . . [[STUFF:privileges]]; 13:03 . . [[User:Arthur Hastings|Arthur Hastings]] ([[User talk:Arthur Hastings|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Arthur Hastings|contribs]]) <span class='comment'>(<span class="autocomment">[[STUFF:privileges#Just_Pick_One.21|→]]Just Pick One!</span>)</span>
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- | *([[Special:Log/newusers|User creation log]]); 13:02 . . [[User:Arthur Hastings|Arthur Hastings]] ([[User talk:Arthur Hastings|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Arthur Hastings|contribs]]) <span class='comment'>(New user: [[User talk:Arthur Hastings|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Arthur Hastings|contribs]] | [[Special:Blockip/Arthur Hastings|block]])</span>
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- | *(<span class="plainlinks">[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=STUFF:keep_cool&curid=26271&diff=357873&oldid=357661 diff]</span>) (<span class="plainlinks">[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=STUFF:keep_cool&curid=26271&action=history hist]</span>) . . [[STUFF:keep cool]]; 13:01 . . [[User:Bruce Partington|Bruce Partington]] ([[User talk:Bruce Partington|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Bruce Partington|contribs]]) <span class='comment'>(<span class="autocomment">[[STUFF:keep cool#Hey_There.2C_Dairy_Queen|→]]Hey There, Dairy Queen</span>)</span>
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- | *([[Special:Log/newusers|User creation log]]); 13:00 . . [[User:Bruce Partington|Bruce Partington]] ([[User talk:Bruce Partington|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Bruce Partington|contribs]]) <span class='comment'>(New user: [[User talk:Bruce Partington|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Bruce Partington|contribs]] | [[Special:Blockip/Bruce Partington|block]])</span>
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Mycroft, I agree that the fact should go, that being said, leave it on the page until it is eaither discussed or STUFFed, and you keep saying that STUFF is where it belongs, yet seem to be too lazy to actually STUFF it yourself. Stop it. Please. This is getting nowhere. — Defender1031*Talk 17:04, 22 January 2008 (UTC)