Editing Talk:A Death Defying Decemberween

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== Wisp of smoke ==
[[Image:Climber Wisp.PNG|thumb|150px|Smoke on the <strike>water</strike> mountain]]
I think that when Marzipan notes that Homestar Runner will be able to eat brunch with her at her parents' house, the small wisp of black smoke that rises from above his head resembles a climber on the mountain in the final frame before the smoke disappears.  I may be hallucinating, though.  Either way, time to sleep... -- [[User:Eb3686|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:#990099; white-space: nowrap">eb3686</span>]] | [[User talk:Eb3686|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:#990099; white-space: nowrap">talk</span>]] 09:46, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:Here's an image to help illustrate his point. While I can see where he gets the idea, I think it's a not-notable coincidence. It's not the first time they've used the "angry smoke" image, and the positioning is because Homestar just happens to be directly near the valley there. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:57, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

::Thanks for the image! I agree with you, but I thought that I'd point it out just in case so that everyone can decide on it. Yes, sleepy time needed. -- [[User:Eb3686|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:#990099; white-space: nowrap">eb3686</span>]] | [[User talk:Eb3686|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:#990099; white-space: nowrap">talk</span>]] 10:02, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Father of six? ==
Is this meant to refer to Strong Bad Email and the sub-series? (Teen Girl Squad, Cheat Commandos, etc.)
:Wow.  That's probably the biggest stretch I ever witnessed on a Wiki Talk page. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 17:31, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
::(insert fanfare) {{User:Neox/sig}}

== Trivia. ==

Someone put that it was the first time we see Homestar in long pants, but I deffinately recall seing him in long pants in Highschool.
:First time in long pants as... Homestar. He was wearing them in Highschool, but that was in Strong Bad's imagenation.
::That's quite nitpicky and not very fun a fact. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:53, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
He was wearing pants in montage, and kind of in yes, wrestling.  [[User:Omnisweater|Omnisweater]] 04:17, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
:But again, the instances in Highschool, Montage, and yes, wrestling were all Strong Bad's creation.  I think it could deserve attention.  {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 04:20, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
::[[Costume Commercial]]. [[Homestar Runner's Daisy Dukes]]. Like, every Halloween toon. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:23, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Daisy Dukes are short pants, but you're right about all the costumes.  It could say it's the first instance of Homestar wearing long pants with the exception of the Halloween episodes, but that just seems way too wordy and obscure.  {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 04:33, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
:::: But he wears long pants people, real long pants. long long long long long long pants. Everybody everybody longest pants! [[User:McArbys|The McArby!]] 00:54, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

== Smile for the cartoon, Strong Bad! ==

Is everyone here too... something...<small>meh, whatever...</small> to notice Strong Bad smiles twice in this toon? {{User:Neox/sig}} 15:55, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:[[Talk:Strong Bad Smiling#Limits?|Yes]]. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 16:14, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
::I don't have a stake in the argument over whether to include SB smiling, but I have an issue here.  I see that the edit has been removed at least twice with reference to the aforementioned talk page.  Said talk page has only a handful of comments on the subject and no consensus on a cutoff date.  Furthermore, the argument to cut off these comments should come from the article, not the article's talk page, should it not?  It seems that edits are being removed without a solid reason given for doing so. [[Special:Contributions/146.122.71.68|146.122.71.68]] 17:27, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:::...In English, please? {{User:Neox/sig}} 22:04, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
::::זה ''היה'' אנגלית. אני יכול לספר לך בעברית אם אתה רוצה... (That ''was'' english. I can tell you in Hebrew if you want...) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:09, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

== Steep deep ==

The way Steep Deep is made came to mind two possible references: either the climactic scene of [[Wikipedia:How_the_Grinch_Stole_Christmas!_(TV_special)|How The Grinch Stole Christmas TV special]] or the Cliffhanger game from [[Wikipedia:The Price Is Right|The Price Is Right]].  The former is more plausible, given the holiday theme.  Thoughts? Broken glass? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 18:14, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:+1 for the Grinch. Homestar teetering over it on the sled is too much like the climax to be a coincidence imo
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== Some Irrelevant Crap ==

Someone mentioned this on the forum: do the TV special parts w/ the piano, pipe, etc. seem like that Stephen Colbert christmas special that was on last month? I personally doubt it, More likely a parody of christmas specials in general, but hey, some o' you might think so. -{{User: Lifty Fernandez/sig}}
:They are clearly both mocking the concept of Holiday Specials, non-notable in my opinion. {{User:Flashfight/sig}} 18:43, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:I think Homestar is wearing a cardigan, not a suit.  That and the pipe make me think this could be a reference specifically to Bing Crosby. [[User:Sentroyd|Sentroyd]] 19:21, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
::I was pretty sure it was meant for Homestar to look like Mr. Rogers. {{User:Neox/sig}} 22:08, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
:I thought it had refrences to the SC special too. Especially the "oh, I didn't see you there" part. [[Special:Contributions/76.28.156.79|76.28.156.79]] 20:15, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
::This is common to many spoofs of old-style celebrity specials.  It is far more likely that SC and H*R are spoofing the same source than that H*R is spoofing the spoof.  See the mid-1980s SNL skit with Eddie Murphy as Gumby in "Merry Christmas, D**mit!"  It's the same format.  The "Oh, I didn't see you there" line a common method of appearing "off the cuff."
:::The Colbert Special was a spoof as well, so it could be that they are similar because they are spoofing the same thing.
::::I assumed that it was spoofing The Colbert Special.  --{{User:Blow Up the Ocean/sig}} 04:58, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

== Previous Engagement = Prior Arrangement ==

I think it should be noted in the article that when Strong Bad translates the cheat as "previous engagement", he (or the Cheat) probably meant "prior arrangement". A previous engagement is something that has already happened, not something that is about to happen that the Cheat must attend.
:Nah.. "previous engagement" is fine.  Here's [http://www.englishforums.com/English/Engagement/cjgvg/post.htm one source].  [[Special:Contributions/98.127.16.93|98.127.16.93]] 19:14, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Again? ==

Hey, is it me, or are Homestar, Bubs, and Coach Z are all projecting very [[poor acting]] during the commercial? It's not on the toon's page and it's not on the bad acting page, but I'm too afraid to add it. Could anyone do that for me? {{User:Corruption/sig}} 22:03, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== "Chef" or "Seth"? ==

I believe he said "My compliments to the Seth". --Alex H. [[Special:Contributions/99.189.252.31|99.189.252.31]] 23:16, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:Sounds more like "fesh", though I'm still not at all sure. I can definately hear an s-ish sound at the end, and "fesh" would be "chef" backwards. --[[User:Belthazar|Belthazar]] 00:28, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
::Sounds a lot like Seth to me, but the sound quality seems to degrade during that scene.
:::And the music kinda drowns out Homestar's word partially too. I can't tell either way. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:36, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
::::I distinctly heard "Thes". That might be just me, though. [[USer:Tooty-Two|Tooty-Two]] 03:07, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
::::: I heard "cef" as in "chef" with no "h" -[[Special:Contributions/70.245.222.179|70.245.222.179]] 03:50, 23 December 2008 (UTC) (ding-dang it, I keep forgetting to log in -Everybody!)
::::::The joke only makes sense if he's saying "Seth." Marzipan previously mentioned how Seth was bringing his friends from the philosophy dept. over. [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 02:48, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Well, that assumes it's meant to be a joke. "Chef" would be the normal word to be used there. But that doesn't mean "chef" is the right word for the transcript; just the word that would normally fit into that sentence. Seth, I agree, is the only reasonable alternative. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:05, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Just my two cents on that, but before seeing the transcript, I heard "cess"... -Zero.exe
:::::::::It sounds like 'cess' because of the percussive sound (jingle bells or a tambourine perhaps) in the background music at the same time Homestar is pronouncing what is probably a 'th'. --CaseyEllo

== Brunch at 12:30 a goof? ==

"Some people eat brunch late. Homestar does." --[[User:Alexie|Alexie]] 01:18, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
: If it's after 12:30, then as far as pretty much anyone would be concerned, it's lunch. If not dinner. The best argument against is that the brunch is actually the next day, or something like that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:40, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
::Or maybe it's just a joke. --[[User:Alexie|Alexie]] 05:21, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
::: Pretty obscure (and unfunny) for a joke. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:40, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Yeah, that'd be pretty lame. It's probably just a teeny inconsistency (or is it?) (Glad it's in Remarks now.) --[[User:Alexie|Alexie]] 07:03, 23 December 2008 (UTC)


They left for Marziparent's house just after 12:30 (12:30 + however long it took for him to get down the slope and then discuss it). It doesn't say when they got to Marziparent's house. I know when I was a kid we had to drive all day and through the night to get to Grandma's. I assumed that this is what they had to do. This is however based on my personal experience, so it is possible that TBC had something totally different in mind. Maybe her parents are vampires so they have to have their meals at different times. Trevor could be her brother, the Gremlin could be the house hold pet, and Marzipan could be adopted. You never know what will happen next in the H*R universe!
Now that I think about it, when Homestarrunner did the special we see the calendar that tells us it is the 24th, and then we see him, the cheat, and Strongbad at the steep deep at night, and then homestarrunner goes to the brunch, so the trip to Marziparent's house had to be on the 25th. Since they call it a Decemberween brunch,they would have had to have gotten there on the same day. I think I'll stick to my vampire explanation. (j/k)
Actually, maybe he pre-recorded the special on the 23rd with the calandar page showing the next day, and filmed his stunt the next day (on the 24th) as the finale of the special so that it could all be aired together for the first time on the night of the 24th. For that to work, Strong bad, homestarrunner, and the cheat would have had to use the time machine built by Homestarrunner in the sbemail "2 emails" to go back to the night before to hide the mattress (which would explain how Homstarrunner could be at both the filming of the special and at the steep deep hiding the mattress at the same time), and then they drove overnight to have brunch at Marziparent's house on the morning of the 25th. {{unsigned|Edwardgindel|17:29, 16 July 2009}}

you know, people eat brunch at 12:30, I do. Breakfast items at that time counts as brunch, lunch items at nine counts as brunch, thats the way I was taught, thats the way I know it [[User:McArbys|The McArby!]] 01:01, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

== Defying Death=Death? ==
When Homestar sleds down the steep deep, he doesn't attempt to "defy death". Instead, he is '''trying''' to kill himself so he doesn't have to see marzipan's relatives. I just thought I'd point that out... [[User:Tooty-Two|Tooty-Two]] 02:05, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
:Well, that's kinda' the joke. He's probably saying he will defy-death in hopes no one will catch on to his plot of trying to injure himself badly so that he won't have to go to Marzipan's parents' house. Also, "A Badly-Injuring Decemberween" isn't as appealing to the eye :) {{User:DevonM/sig}} 02:22, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
::Oh, oh, oh! Now I see your logic. It does make a bit more sense...somewhat [[USer:Tooty-Two|Tooty-Two]] 02:43, 23 December 2008 (UTC)


isnt Marzipan's dad  the KOT?
: That was the original plan, but it's been retconned out of existence. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:04, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

== Pom Pom ==

Anyone notice that Pom pom and coach Z are throwing snow outside the "window" on the sound stage... just thought I'd mention it since I didn't see it anywhere. [[User:Javaguy78|Javaguy78]] 15:21, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
: nm.. i see it mentioned that it's Bub's hand, though the first time I saw it, I thought it was Pom Pom's hand.. he must be out ladying this decemberween [[User:Javaguy78|Javaguy78]] 15:23, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

== He didn't... did he? ==

This is just a thought here, but I thought the whole "variety show" segment seemed a lot like Mr. Rogers... especially the outfit. I mean, look at [http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:t597CthFcxFmwM:http://hunternuttall.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/mister-rogers.jpg this] picture. There's definitely some similarity there...
-Zero.exe [[Special:Contributions/24.91.33.102|24.91.33.102]] 20:53, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

<br>No... they were probably making fun of The Colbert Christmas Special... [http://gallery.nofactzone.net/albums/userpics/normal_colbert-christmas_toby-keith.jpg see picture]... especially with Bubs. -Phopojijo

== Calender Remark? 24 ==

Just like to remark that the Calender in the toon says its the 24th, but the toon was released on the 22nd (which I found rather humorous when I watched it on Monday to see that it was now the future!).--[[Special:Contributions/66.245.248.55|66.245.248.55]] 06:07, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
: Not notable. Other toons (most of them holiday-related) have been seen to be on days other than the days they were released. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:41, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
: For example, [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] was released on the 20th but takes place entirely on the evening of the 25th. All Halloween toons take place on Halloween itself, but not a single one was released on Halloween (unless you accept the Bros. Chaps' claim on the menu button of [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]], which was actually released the day ''after'' Halloween.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:45, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

== Jones ==

Is it possible that ¨Jones¨ is referring to Jones Soda? Just a thought... [[User:Thesithwithashotgunshell|Thesithwithashotgunshell]] 20:51, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't know if this is what the Bro. Chaps had in mind, but here is a recipe for hot Jones:
Start with half a mug of black coffee.
Add cinnamon, nutmeg, and almond flavoring.
While stirring, fill the mug the rest of the way with eggnog (often alcoholic.)
Top with whipped cream.
I am told that there is a way of doing it a flambe by pouring alcohol into (or is it onto?) the whipped topping and then immediately lighting a match, but I have to wonder about that since I have never seen it done. It sounds dangerous, too. 
I don't drink hot Jones. I prefer hot Mo-Jones which is considered better suited for people who don't drink and for when small children are around. It's the same thing essentially, but it is made with hot cocoa instead of coffee and is 100% alcohol free. (hot Mo-Jones = hot Mormon Jones, not hot mojo nes, named such since Mormons don't drink coffee or alcohol.)
::Um... Yeah. You know, this would be ''much'' better at the {{pl|l=http://www.forum.hrwiki.org forum}}. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 05:24, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

== bubs's arm or pompom's arm? ==

It's orange, and I think I see Pompom's arm throwing up the "SNOW". THINK ABOUT IT, PEOPLE. Look closely! --{{User:The 386/sig}} 21:28, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
:Given that it suddenly switches to Coach Z's arm once Bubs appears in the doorway (thus no longer being there to throw snow), and also that Bubs has a much longer reach to be off-screen while throwing. Further, Pom Pom's has a stubbier, shinier look than Bubs'. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:31, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, I assumed Pom Pom at first when I saw it, but later realized that it had to be Bubs, given the switch. Also given that the arm isn't straight - Pom Pom's always is, but Bubs has a noticeable elbow. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:40, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Heh, it seems to me that everyone thought it was Pom Pom until Bubs appeared at the door, at which point (almost) everyone realised it was Bubs all along, and could never have been Pom Pom. Me included. =) --[[User:Belthazar|Belthazar]] 23:45, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
::::I knew it was bubs the whole time, and only when i saw this conversation was like "there are people who thought it was pom pom?!" {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:49, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
:::The arm bends when it picks up the snow, and as far as I'm concerned, Pom-Pom's arm has never had an elbow. {{User:Chipwich/sig}} 15:35, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

== Decemberween or Decemberw'eve? ==
Homestar's speech impediment makes it a little hard to make out, but every time he announces his upcoming stunt, it sounds to me like he's saying it'll take place on Decemberw'eve.
:Sounds like Decemberween to me. Besides, he's clearly doing it on the day after the one specifically identified as Decemberween eve. --[[User:Belthazar|Belthazar]] 21:11, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
::If you listen ''real'' closely, you can clearly hear that he says "This decemberw'eve" both times. However, it does end up appearing to take place on Decemberween, as the Cheat and Homestar bury the mattress at night. [[User:Tooty-Two|Tooty-Two]] 00:18, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm hearing three "Decemberweeve"s (spelling based on the calendar in the flimsy set):  "This Decemberweeve, I, homestarrunner.com ...", "That's why, this Decemberweeve ...", "It's time to go ... for Decemberweeve brunch" (Marzipan).  All the other instances sound like "Decemberween" to me.  It still doesn't make much sense in context, but Homestar has never been the brightest light on the tree, and TBC are fond of creating new portmanteaux, so I suppose it could be intentional, albeit ridiculously subtle. 04:54, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I think it's on purpose. Decemberweeve is just our Christmas Eve. I hear it say that each time. Plus, it makes sense. He's going to her parents on Decemberween, so he's going to kill himself the day before. [[User:Tizye96|Tizye96]] 05:22, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Except that I think even Marzipan says "Decemberweeve brunch", now that I'm listening. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:27, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Listening to the Youtube version, I hear Decemberweeve.

== Thatguy? ==

Might be stretching a little here, but could the first scene of the "special" where Homestar has his pipe be a reference to the "Ask ThatGuy" section of clips from thatguywiththeglasses.com? [http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/ask-thatguy/358-episode-1 Here's a link] to one of the clips. At the beginning of each of those, he has that pipe, and also says "Hi, (or hi in a foreign language) didn't hear you come in."

Like I said, it's a stretch, but the similarity is there, and it's the first thing I thought of when I saw that scene. Are TBC actually starting to refer to other websites now? [[Special:Contributions/96.231.42.46|96.231.42.46]] 07:00, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

:Don't think it's a reference to that in particular. Read [[Talk:A_Death-Defying_Decemberween#Some_Irrelevant_Crap|this]] for more info on why. {{User:DevonM/sig}} 20:51, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

== Bubs Winter Attire ==

The Transcript states:

"Cut to a snow-covered field, where a group of characters '''is''' standing, '''all dressed in winter attire''', and adorning a snowman with The Stick"

forgetting for the moment that "is" should be "are," Not all the characters are wearing winter attire.  Bubs is naked as usual.  The transcript should be changed, or it should be put in remarks.
:It's not important enough... and "is" is correct, as "a group" is singular. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:57, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

== I'd like to thank The Cheat for helping out The Cheat ==

I hear "to cheat" in the line "The Cheat is helping Homestar (blank) cheat, eh?" Or, at least "ta". Seems awfully low-key (and not all that funny) if he's saying "the" there, as well. But my attempt at fixing it got reverted. Whaddya say, consensus? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:05, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
:I kinda think it's "the" -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.130|132.183.151.130]] 18:21, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
::It's definitely "the". I can't hear it any other way no matter how many times i listen to it. I think it's some kind of strong bad joke. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:29, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

== Would you like a cup of hot jones? ==

What the crap is a Cup of Hot Jones
:Read the "Inside References" section. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 04:51, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

== Sound Quality ==
Anyone else notice a change in sound quality towards the end? {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 21:21, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, it starts when Homestar is at Marzipan's house. I noticed too. {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 20:35, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

== YouTube version ==

I found some audio pauses in the Youtube version that Ngamer01 thinks are caused by Youtube itself. I firmly believe it is the video itself based on where it pauses. It is probably the Flash conversion that does this. Should I put the Youtube version section back, or are the pauses not important enough? --{{User:Purple Wrench/sig}} 16:13, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
:If it's the Flash conversion, then the question is:  Is the problem caused by the converter that TBC uses or YouTube's converter?  If we can get some or a decisive answer to this, then we'll know on whether to list the glitches in the article or not. &mdash; [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 18:51, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
::I'm referring to TBC's converter. After all, we've seen several video glitches already ([[Strongest Man in the World]] and [[Decemberween in July]]), and some audio glitches that are reminiscent of this in [[TGS 14]] as well. Though one or two of the audio glitches could happen from Youtube's converter, the rest would be impossible - also, notice that these glitches don't exist in videos they made specifically for Youtube (or DVD for that matter) such as [[Strong Bad Gameways]] and [[Sample of Style]]/[[Sample of Style Too|Too]]. --{{User:Purple Wrench/sig}} 19:56, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

== Bing Crosby, not Mr. Rogers ==

I don't understand why it says that Homestar's cardigan is a Mr. Rogers. If anything, I'd guess it was a reference to the way they get worn in fireside-type Christmas specials in general, such as the one Bing Crosby wears in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCpXMy5GalI. If it's Bing Crosby specifically, that would certainly explain the pipe. [[User:Trott|Trott]] 23:44, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

:I'm not particularly familiar with that sort of Christmas special, but the Crosby/Bowie video is one that has been spoofed several times (exhibits [https://www.venturebrosblog.com/2009/12/the-venture-brothers-christmas-single-2004/ A], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVtMs0rh8XY B], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJBFD-Wvc7U C]) and notably it has the format of "one character lets another into his home" that this toon uses. I'm guessing previous editors called out Rogers because he's the televised figure most associated with cardigans (though I think his red one was most iconic)... [https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0736872/mediaindex/ a beige cardigan was certainly in Rogers' repertoire,] Homestar's acting in the scene really doesn't bring ''Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood'' to mind. Even if he does address the audience directly (and Fred Rogers could play the piano), Homestar is using more of [https://youtu.be/9QEa4bmcefo?si=4J3vB5vAHDFe6ppU&t=98 a casual convival tone typical of Christmas specials] compared to the "friendly talking to children" tone Rogers adopted.
:Also fwiw I noticed we call out a potential reference to Crosby in [[Happy Dethemberween#Real-World References|another Decemberween toon's "televised Christmas special" spoof]]. But even if it's a bit much of a stretch to specifically call out Bing Crosby I agree with you that identifying this scene as a Mr. Rogers reference is off the mark. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 06:21, 15 May 2024 (UTC)