Editing Talk:Stinkoman 20X6

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== XML ==

Did anyone notice that you can download and edit the XML files to create new levels?  This could be good for the Fanstuff Wiki, if anyone gets it working.  --[[User:Ed smildE|<font face="tw cen mt">E<small>D</small>S<small>MILDE</small></font>]]

- Care to share where they are? :) --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 18:05, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

Well, I think you have to edit the flash file to get them to work offline first (which is not too hard).  They are at:

[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.1.1.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.1.2.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.2.1.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.2.2.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.3.3.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/stinkogame.swf]

Those are the ones I found in my temp folder (even though I didn't get to those levels).  If you go to ''View'' -> ''Page Source'' in Firefox, you can kinda figure out how it works (maybe).  --[[User:Ed smildE|<font face="tw cen mt">E<small>D</small>S<small>MILDE</small></font>]]
''Edit:  Darn, the links don't work.  They are in some other folder.  Once I figure out the folder name, the game will work offline.  And they don't show up on Google yet.''

Ooh - found it - They're in another folder called "levelData."
[[User:Ed smildE|<font face="tw cen mt">E<small>D</small>S<small>MILDE</small></font>]]

-As a note for other people wanting to edit, you need to get the 5 level files, the main swf, and the object library: [http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/objectLibrary.swf]. (You can see some game graphics if you view that file)

It's a pretty simple almost-XML format, I'm making a level editor for it now.
[[User:Travis Wells|Travis Wells]]

:Woah. New enemy in that library. If anything confirms another set of levels coming up, that would. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:07, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Hey, I was just about to make a level editor for it, but it probably won't be very good.  [[User:Ed smildE|<font face="tw cen mt">E<small>D</small>S<small>MILDE</small></font>]]

:Hey, if you decompile the flash file for the game you'll see there is already a level editor in there on the script for sprite 761.  Unfortunately I don't know anything about flash, so I don't know what to do with that, or how to get to it, but someone must.

:I'm working on an editor written in VB using the MSXML library. --[[User:ackicantthinkofaname|breadtangle]] 18:30, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
I know all about Flash, but I don't have a decompiler -NonHacka

'''NOTE:''' With the release of Stinkoman 20X6 v6, those links have become outdated. The new ones are [[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|here]]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 16:48, 4 August 2005 (BST) <br>'''EDIT:''' Moved all links to my user page.

Arghh...I Made the installation program but i need a site to upload it onto.
Can someone tell me one? --- [[User:Pertmywert|<small>[[User:Pertmywert|Pertmywert]]|<sub>[[User_Talk:Pertmywert|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Pertmywert|Contributions]]</sub></small>]]
:[mailto:phlipping@yahoo.com Email] it to me and I'll host it for you, if you'd like. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 08:02, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
::http://phlip.websiteallies.com/Stinkoman_20X6_Install.exe --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:28, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

::: Thanks philip for hosting it but remember i made it<small>[[User:Pertmywert|Joel]]|<sub>[[User_Talk:Pertmywert|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Pertmywert|Contributions]]</sub></small>

:::: Pertmywert has sent me the new version: http://phlip.websiteallies.com/Stinkoman_20X6_Install_v3.exe - I'll keep the v2 one up incase anyone's interested. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 23:44, 9 May 2005 (UTC)


I already have a great working editor for this game, a new version has just been released. Check it out here: http://joesarcade.tripod.com/cgi-bin/stinkoedit.cgi

Hey the link above doesn't work anymore!
I fixed it, here are some mirrors: http://joesarcade.tripod.com/cgi-bin/stinkoedit.cgi

Can someone please make a level editor compatible with MacOS?--[[User:Darklinkskywalker|Darklinkskywalker]] 20:38, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Sure. http://thewafflebase.ath.cx/~blah/Stinko.pkg [[User:Zowayix|Zowayix]] 06:55, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

*OH WHAT THE CRAP!!!! Do need Flash or something for this? Not Flash Player, but the animator thingie? Every time I click on a link it doesnt work!!! PLEASE HELP!!!

:Which links are you trying to click on, the ones in this section, the ones on the [[Stinkoman 20X6]] page, or the ones on my user page? --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 16:50, 4 August 2005 (BST)

Level Editor Update (version 9.4)
http://joesarcade.tripod.com/cgi-bin/stinkoedit.cgi

--
All right... I'm a bit lost.
I'm attempting to do that thing whee you can play the Stinkogame offline, and I have the Source Files [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Stinkoman_20X6_Source_Files] page and the Level Editor [http://joesarcade.tripod.com/cgi-bin/stinkoedit.cgi] page open aaaaand my brain explode.
Can anyone tell me what to do next, please? @_@ -Σ
--

== Weird glitch. ==

My brother's a big fan of this game. One day, long ago, we we're checking out the Continue Menu, and ALL THE LEVELS WERE THERE!!!!
My brother noticed the strange thing that happened, and swore that he didn't make all this happen. He didn't have a clue of what was going on. Then I thought, ''This is obviously a rare glitch. I didn't do anything.'' So now when I see "stinkoman level <#>!" on the
main page, I go the game and click "CONTINUE" and I check it out. Pretty cool, huh? I'm just wondering if anyone else expierenced this glitch. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 20:14, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:That's not a glitch. Everyone can access all the levels, at all times. The only time when levels were hidden was when there were only three. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:19, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: Well, also, you can't access stage #.2 until you beat #.1. But you can access all of the #.1s at any time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:20, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::Right, forgot about that. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:22, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::Oh yeah, and when a new level is released, the previously released one's .2 is now accessible. - [[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]]
I see. That's probably also why my grandmother's computer has it too.  Oh welll. List of levels my brother hasn't beaten yet:

Levels:

*5.2 (It's pretty hard, my brother can't get though the uptants in a row)

*7.2 (My brother has beaten this level at grandmother's, but when we came back it was gone.)

*8.1 (For some reason, it came out today. My brother can't play it because he's still asleep. That, and the computer can't access the game.)

*8.2 (Ditto.)

Bosses:

*Tampo (Even if it's the first level boss. it was supposed to be easy.)
*Nebulon (If you can't beat the .2 level, you can't see/beat the boss.)
*The Liekand (He has seen it, though.)
*An Ice Machine (Ditto with The Leikand.)
*Unnamed Boss (For the reason he can't play Level 8.)

G'bye. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:17, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

*Well, TBC are assuming you've beat all the levels so far, and doesn't want good players to get frustrated at playing the levels all over again each time stinkoman updates. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 00:56, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Let me get ths straight. You were able to gain access to all of the levels? How did you do it? Were you able to get to level 10? -[[User:Lotionman|Lotionman]] 07:51, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC)Lotionman
: This is 100% normal. You can reach stage 1 of every level no matter what, at least, since level 4 was released. Of course he wasn't able to get to level 10. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:10, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC)

oopsyoubwokeit, the name of that "unnamed boss" was Ekersby.
==Fall and die?==

I'm playing a web version (from i-am-bored.com), and all that happens is that Stinkoman falls down the screen and dies, no ground, no bosses, WTF is going on?

Don't even acronym swears, and just use the one of Homestar runner.com  those web ones are unrealiable.  {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:My guess is that they only saved stinkogame.swf without the levelData or externalSwf files. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 02:48, 3 August 2005 (BST)

::how can a normal person (like me) save everything onto their (my) computer?--[[User:StrongBad110990|StrongBad110990]] 18:19, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::Get the files and follow the directions on the page: [[Stinkoman 20X6 Source Files]]. I did and can now play the whole game offline. [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]

:Your best bet is to download [[User:phlip|phlip]]'s Stinkoman 20X6 Cheat Program, then run nocheater.html. You can find it [[Forum:3336|here]]. It's a lot easier than grabbing a list of links from [[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|somewhere]], and saving them into the appropriate folders. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 19:53, 9 August 2005 (BST)

:Look for Venusy's Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman, then download all those files. And another thing; don't use WTF. Use WTC. It makes you sound more like a true Homestar Runner fan.

: I had this happen in the middle of the game while playing from homestarrunner.com . I was at the level 1 boss, Tampo (the giant brain). I had 2 lives left. I died. When it started over, Stinkoman fell and kept falling. And the game was over. Must've been some kind of glitch I guess.--DrPepperMD 9/24/05.
: I belive I have an answer to why this happens (not 100% sure though), I first saw/played the game on a new(er) computer and it workd fine, but when a tryed to play it on an older computer (that had an out of date flash version) there was no ground. prehaps the version of flash that was the current version when this came out supported the ground that prevented you from falling. just a though.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:46, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
:: I've had this happen to me as well, even on fast computers.  It seems to be mostly random, but the only place it ever happens is when I'm fighting a boss. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 18:10, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
*sigh* That doesn't always happen to me, but when it does, it's a pain in the neck.  Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 04:55, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

==Strange Storyline==
Well, the storyline's kinda getting dull since Pan-pan was kidnapped. Almost all the levels 4-10 is/will be about rescuing pan-pan (and starting level 7, 1-up too. ) TBC, this is an awesome game, but the story... --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 14:06, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Stinkoman is emulating 8-bit platformers. "Rescue Pan-Pan" IS the story. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:01, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::Thank you Stinkoman! But our panda is in another castle! ;) --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] <small>[[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]]</small> 17:50, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::Besides, as you may have noticed, even Stinkoman admits the plot is utterly predictable. Although, even though the PLOT might be predictable, chances are, if -0 or 3 are any indication, the level scenarios won't be. :) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:03, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:dude, this is an old-style platforming game, in other words, as long as the gameply's good, nobody cares about the plot.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 19:43, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

== ...The new punching?! ==

Who else here doesn't like the new punching?? - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]]
:heh? what do you mean by "new punching"?-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:55, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
::"New punching" ''means'' the fact that the 'flying fists' now shoot straight and don't disappear! The only thing that bothers me is how freaking hard it is to kill the my benj. Other than that, I think it's pretty cool. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 03:56, 3 November 2005 (UTC) (P.S. Are all you're discussion edits on the 19th of October, Anonymous?)
:I don't really like the "new punching" because it is almost impossible to kill the my benj. Also because you only get to have 3 shots on the screen so it's just very annoying when you need to shoot a boss and you have to wait for the shots to leave the screen and then you'll lose your chance to shoot the boss and you might get attacked. {{User:Tampo/sig}} 02:33, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
::Also I think it's a glitch because they  didn't want the shots for the Stinkowing to fall so they made them fly across. Then it spread over to the other levels. <nowiki>[[User:Tampo|</nowiki>[[User:Tampo|Tampo]]]] <nowiki>[[User talk:Tampo|</nowiki>[[User talk:Tampo|talk]]<nowiki>]]</nowiki> 22:15, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::But it's not, Stinkoman's shots still fall a little, but the Stinkowing's doesen't. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 04:51, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
:::That's what I've said on a parallel disussion page. One that's kind of [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6 Glitches|glitchy]]. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 14:00, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
::::When it spread over to the other levels it probably still had a little bit of the old mechanism in it so thats what made them fall. {{User:Tampo/sig}} 02:41, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
::I like it better this way, and I feel that it isn't a glitch. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 05:03, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I like it too. But the only thing I hate about it is about battling the bosses. [[image:stinkoman.PNG|20px]] [[User:Tampo|<font color="red">'''Tam'''</font><font color="blue">'''po''' </font>]]/ <small>([[User talk:Tampo|<font color="blue">'''20'''</font><font color="red">'''X'''</font>]][[Stinkoman|<font color="red">'''6!!!'''</font>]])</small> [[image:stinkoman.PNG|20px]] 21:56, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

== Fanstuff bad? ==

What's wrong with the [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman 20X6 - CUSTOM LEVELS|fanstuff]] [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman_20X6_-_CHEAT_VERSION|links]]? [[User:Some HSR themed username|Some HSR themed username]] says it's "wiki policy," but I don't see anything against fanstuff in the [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]]. {{User:Trogga/sig}}
:I agree with you. It's "External Links", not "H*R Links." But I can see why some wouldn't like it. - '''''[[User:Joshua|<font color=green>Joshua</font>]]'''''

::I'm not sure exactly where I read it, but you can take it to the administrators if you want. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 18:49, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure you read it in an old discussion of the page - where an admin said that no fanstuff related ''pages'' and ''fun facts'' should be made. (i.e. a guide to custom levels; a factoid on how you can do something with a cheat version) - '''''[[User:Joshua|<font color=green>Joshua</font>]]'''''
::If I remember correctly it was a sysop edit summary just a few days ago, but if you really want to add it again, I'll stop reverting. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 19:00, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Here's examples I found. These may be what you are talking about: [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6/Archive#Add an article on custom levels.3F|here]] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Stinkoman_20X6_Enemies&diff=138917&oldid=138711 here]. - '''''[[User:Joshua|<font color=green>Joshua</font>]]''''' 19:02, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

We don't link to fanstuff because (1) as a knowledge base, we should only list official sources as external links, (2) we don't have any real info on fanstuff nor do we have any control of its content, and (3) if we allowed person A's fanstuff on this page, then we'd have to allow the fanstuff of persons B, C, D, E, and everyone else on all the other pages, and that is not the point of this wiki, nor should keeping up with and policing things like that be one of our chores. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:46, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

You're Insane, man! I liked those links! Besides, Trogga and Joshua are right! Those links were useful, Fanstuff or not! -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:The cheat version may be bad, but the custom levels are public fanstuff from multiple users, and I think they should stay. - '''''[[User:Joshua|<font color=green>Joshua</font>]]'''''

Any glitches that can only be accessed with the cheat version or in custom levels should be treated like out-of-the-frame glitches in the toons - they were not intended to be seen by the public, so there's no reason to allow for them. That is, if there's something that happens because something is not specifically catered for (eg 1-Up kicking a Stafulter) it should not be mentioned here (though it could be mentioned on the [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman_20X6_-_CHEAT_VERSION#Quirks|fanstuff entry's page]]). If there is something intentional that can only be accessed this way (like the cabbage enemy was) then it should be mentioned, as a remark or as appropriate on another Stinkoman 20X6 page. Linking to the custom levels here would in my mind be the same as linking to [[HRFWiki:Other Character Email|Other Character Email]] or suchlike from the [[Strong Bad Email]] page, and would easily set a precedent for every fanstuff (or even just each category of fanstuff would be bad enough) being linked to from the H*R thing it was inspired by. {{User:phlip/sig}} 17:09, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

But what's the point of (fanstuff) interwiki links if we're not going to use them? {{User:Trogga/sig}}

Yeah, if we're not supposed to link to fanstuff, then, ''Oh! Why don't we'' '''blow the fanstuff link off the face of that side template thingy''' if we're "not supposed to link to fanstuff"! See? it's ridiculous!! Take ''that'', It's dot com! -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:There's a difference between "linking to the fanstuff site from this site" to "linking to a fanstuff page ''from an article'' on this site" - the ''articles'' are supposed to make a ''knowledge base'' containing ''facts'' about ''H*R''. However the site as a whole contains the knowledge base, the forum, the fanstuff, the chat channel, etc... so links between them ''outside the articles themselves'' are still good. {{User:phlip/sig}}

:Take it easy, FaceCrap. It's not an extremely good idea to talk like that. &mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}}

:Yeah, I guess not. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

So,''anyway'', if no one's said anything against the Fanstuff links for days, why hasn't somebody put them back? I would, but if it were a good idea to, somebody probably would've already. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:I am against putting the fanstuff links there.  People should just visit fanstuff themselves. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 14:05, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Well, you ''can'' just go to the external links part of the side template, true, but it might be easier to have direct links on the bottom of the page. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:So what, we have to be actively posting here all the time saying "I still don't want the fanstuff links there" after the discussion seems settled? OK, to make it explicit: I think they should not be there, and I will continue to think they should not be there until such a time as I specifically post saying otherwise. Until then, take it as read that I am posting here regularly saying they should not be there. {{User:phlip/sig}} 16:02, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I feel that having fanstuff links would only be kinda like linking to the forum. I also think that the custom levels might be kind of like linking to the home-made or other character e-mails, but the cheat version still seems good. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 20:56, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't think the fanstuff should go completely unnoticed... those are some useful cheats! -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 04:23, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Buffalo! Buffalo, buffalo, buffalo! It's funny if you watch the ''Colbert Report''. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 04:23, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

== Level 8 ==

I know people have commented on the whole level 7,-0,9 thing. I think I has the solution. After Level 10, TBC are likely to go back and do a level 8 as somewhat of a lost level. I'm dissapointed there was no swimming level, so this might be where it comes in ( Level 10 defenitely won't be such a level. I'll bet anyone my entire life savings [being $8.42] that 10 will be a Bowser's Keep type deal)---[[User:RatherAnnoying]]
: Level -0 ''is'' level 8, just not called that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:06, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:5 bucks says level ten isn't a bowsers keep type deal.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 19:46, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
::What ''is'' a bowser's keep type deal, anyway? -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 04:13, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Ever played any old Mario game? Think those type of final levels. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::::Actually, I ''haven't'' played any old Mario games (unless Super Mario World for the Super Nintendo counts, but I haven't even beaten it and it's at a friend's house anyway), so I haven't seen any final levels. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 02:31, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
:::So, what's a bowser's keep type dael? -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 03:45, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
[http://vgmaps.com/Atlas/NES/SuperMarioBros-World1-Area4.png Bowser's castle], World 1-4 of ''Super Mario Bros.''. Look up "NES", then "Super Mario Bros.", then "World 1-4". The link redirects to the first page. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

10 bucks says level 10's a fusion of Super Mario 
World's Bowser's Castle and Megaman and Bass' final stage(A castle where you go through several subsections and face a boss at the end of almost every section(like the goals))

Gee, thanks DorianGray. That link totally worked. I now know exactly what a Bowser's keep type deal is. Both a 403 and a 404 at the same time! -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 16:19, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
:Try going [http://www.vgmaps.com/Atlas/NES/index.htm#SuperMarioBros here], then click the link for World 1, Area 4 (or any of the other Area 4s). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:04, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

== Cutscene Before 9.3 ==

So, doesn't anyone think that noting that there is no cutscene before 9.3 is too obvious? There's no cutscene before An Ice Machine either, and nobody cared about that! Who put that fact up, anyway? -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 00:34, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I agree. We should either put both facts up, or none of 'em. --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:13, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Easter Eggs==

:I know it wouldn't do much, but to help clean up, couldnt we move the easter eggs onto the levels in which they're on? For instance, for the "snot bubble" easter egg, couldnt we just keep that on the "Oh! The moon!" page? --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:11, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::I don't think we need the snot bubble one there. We already recorded it on [[Stinkoman 20X6 Playable Characters]]. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

== Stinkoman Labels ==

Personally, I think there should be some kind of consistency among the level titles.  If we are to change the level 8's to level -0's, we should do that throughout the entire page and not just to one of the titles.  I changed it back because, having two dashes -0-9 doesnt' exactly look pretty, and it would look even worse if we had (-0)-9, as I had seen once before (if my memory serves me right).  Please accept my apologies but I will change it back to the way I had it for the aformentioned reason. If it is deemed better to have all level 8 labels turned into -0 label, then it should be done across the board. Thanks.--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:36, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:My vote is too change all '''-0''' tags into '''8'''s. I find the -0 title confusing when being used among other levels. This is probably especially true for newbies. 8 is just much simpler. And it's not entirely inaccurate either - Level 8 ''is'' called Level 8 in the Stinkomanual. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:41, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:: But the ''game itself'' calls it Level -0. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:47, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::: To me that says that the game creators (that would be TBC) both call it level 8 and level -0. However, my first issue still stands: ''consistency''.  Having several titles call it level 8 and only one or two (or even half) level -0 is inconsistent and looks bad. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:50, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::: Do we have titles that call it level 8? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:52, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::: We go by -0.  I don't understand why people care about it.  We go by the official site, and the site calls it -0.  Oh, and I think the walkthrough says -0/8. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 17:53, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::: To answer my own question, we did. I came up with a solution that not only fixed that, but also fixes the "double hyphen" problem. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:55, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:: What the walkthrough says doesn't matter - it can be changed. Basically, the official site calls it -0 '''AND''' 8. So we could go either way without "official site relevance" problems. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:55, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::: Yes, this is true, but one is in the manual (which has lots of other intentional mistakes) and the other is in the game itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:57, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::I was gonna post this till you guys beat me to it (twice! I had 2 edit conflicts):
::::::''Pretty much every main title that refers to it under Trivia, remarks (before the change) and inside references. There is a snippet in the flash [[Stinkoman_20X6#General|information]] that calls it episode 8 (this i beleive is original TBC wording) and further below 8/-0, and ... and that's it!
::::: and I like your solution! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:58, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Yeah, the manual itself is kind of inconsistant. I agree with Jay. And furthermore, I think -0 sums up the level better too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::: Working heavily on the Stinkoman 20X6 levels, I must say -0 is a great inconvience. When we can choose between convient and inconvient, why do we pick the harder one? It seems that TBC used -0 on the level selection screen and "TRY LEVEL" screen and 8 everywhere else. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:02, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::: Define "everywhere else." All I see was the manual, which was already mentioned, and the "What's New" box from the day before, where they didn't want to give away the new level. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:09, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Not to mention ''" It said "V6.0 EPISODES 1-8" until September 5, 2005, when the ninth level was added."'' Although level and episode are two slightly different things. Yes, I know I'm being slightly repetitive. I do like the new wording a lot though!  --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:52, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Ok, I think that we can live with some itty bitty inconviences in our articles.  -0 makes much more sense than 8, and is called -0 on the site. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 18:59, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::I don't exactly see what you're talking about with -0 making more sense. -0 is much more inconvenient than 8, and we've already established that TBC call it both. I vote '''8'''. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:13, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::I vote '''8'''.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 19:52, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
(Dear wiki fans: please note that arguing over something small like this may get all of you put up on my "Nerds of the year page."  It does not currently exist, but it will very soon.  In like, 2 hours I will have the link posted here.  You're not on it...yet.  Note to the admins: you won't be on it, since you are defending the inconsistency fact that you put on there.  Does that make sense?)
--Chorch
P.S.  No offense ;)
:Of course, the only person more nerdy than the guys arguing over it is the person that locates the discussion amoung the millions of other "nerdy" discussions around here, identifies it as the "nerdiest" and then makes a webpage dedicated to the "nerdiest" users' feat. :P - {{User:Joshua/sig}}
::Yeah, I feel like such a bag of crap now that I said that... you guys run one of the few places on the 'net that accept me... so to make it up to you, I've put up some Homestar Runner based cheats for Super Mario Bros. in my user page.  Wait until you see what the cheat "Strong Sad" does!
-Chorch aka [[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]]
P.S. I'm deeply sorry :(

== The shadow ==

:anyone thinking about who the end boss is going to be?-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:59, 19 October 2005 (UTC)


Ya, proably a Japanese Coach Z. there is s HRWiki article that mentions this.- Not currently a user, 11:02pm, 9th November 2005 (AEST)

Though I have a feeling it's so obvious that it's Coach Z, it might not be Coach Z at all. Just a theory. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 17:53, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

I think that it is Coach Z. In some of the cartoons, Coach Z is represented like that (I cannot remember where). When he was, he looked extremely similar to the end boss. 
-Zyborg

Maybe the final boss is an armored Sticklyman. After all, maybe only the cape and armor are shadowed, and the "hat" may be some kinda visor.
:I changed my mind. I do think the Shadowy Figure is 20X6 Coach Z. On the fanstuff wiki, he has many names relating to Coach Z, like "Emeperor Z" and the popular "Master Z". In a Stinkoman comic called "Stinkoman 20X6: The Second Wave" he is called "Evil Z". I do think it is just 20X6 Coach Z, wearing sholder plates and a cape. His sprite is avalible in "Make-O Your Own Stinko", but it has no cape.

== Messy Page ==
The whole fun fact section of this page is a mess. I'm thinking we need to delete some facts, maybe move some pages, stuff like that. Like individual boss fun facts chould go in their own section in the enemies page. And I think a page should be set up of a list of all the "Try Level" "Game Over" and "More Levels To Come" scenes. - '''''[[User:Joshua|<font color=green>Joshua</font>]]'''''

:It is a bit messy. I'll try sweeping the floor.
:...
:But seriously, yea. Too much info. We need to have a [[garage sale]] or something. I'll maybe try to do a bit of work on the page. Probably a few more Fun Facts subsections are needed, as well as maybe an 'updates section', for the little things they change every time they update. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:07, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::The fun facts should be split into levels wherever possible, and a bunch of other changes. I was kinda waiting for the game to be finished before proposing any radical alterations. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:12, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Would it be okay to remove all of the "when the game was first made, it was like this. it was later changed" type messages? Shouldn't the guide just talk about how the game is now?--DrPepperMD

::We have precedent for keeping records of when things change, but that's mostly because the toons and such don't change often - this game changes regularly... Perhaps split them off to yet another page? I'm willing to do that now if there's no objections. {{User:phlip/sig}} 03:56, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::I had another look - I don't think there are enough "in a previous version..." facts to warrant its own page, but I still don't think they should be removed. Perhaps group them all together under a "changes" heading or something... {{User:phlip/sig}} 11:10, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:'''Hi!''' I have two points I'd like to talk about (sorry, I'm not really mentioning anything new).
:*This TALK page is indeed still messy. I think we should archive ''again'' everything except the Closed (STUFF), XML and couple of most recent (like level 9) conversations.  Oh! and this section of course.  I'd do it, but um, I hate to ask... how do you archive things again?
::*The Main page has its archives broken in pieces of 20, and has its own template and everything, I think this talk page merits that kind of organization.
:*Um yeah the page is kinda bloated. I was thinking making actual ''level'' pages for most stuff (we already have the walkthroughs, which the level pages can point to) like [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] suggested. I think it's doable at least for the early stages, and since the game is presumably nearly complete.  That or Real World references should have its own page.  So what should it be, individual level pages or Real World references? :D
::*Organizing the page now, will save us the headache of updating it later, when it's even more bloated.  Adding to a new infrastructure isn't necessarily that much harder.
: Thank you guys for your time!
:  --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:50, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
: I have organized the talk [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6#This_might_need_archival|archives]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:24, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::I definitely like the separate Real World References page! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:38, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I have reorganized some of the sections, is it clean enough to remove the cleanup tag? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:24, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::It is not even close to being clean.  You have been doing a '''great''' jorb on this, but it is still to big for its own good.  We should probably take out the updates and break the FFs into smaller sections. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 03:23, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Some good examples of shortening is that we need to make either A: A Big Fun fact page or B: Seperate articles for all the facts and references.

== Separate Fun Facts Page ==

I have a (possibly controversial) suggestion: why not move *all* of the Fun Facts section to its own page?  It is big enough to merit it, and that way we can leave the Stinkoman page short and clean. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:56, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

On another note, can the Closed STUFF have its own independent page? It has its own page now which is inserted as a template to make it look like the way it was, since I didn't know if it should be kept here for easy access.  I was thinking it could be prominently displayed in the Archive Nav bar. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:56, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

:You know, I was thinking that we should move all of the fun facts to an independent page.  But STUFF'd facts having there own page, and still being displayed here is over kill. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 13:26, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

::Ok. I just didn't know if there was any reason for the STUFF to be visible immediately from the main talk page. Note that this is the same way STUFF is injected into the main STUFF page. As for the FF, if other ppl think it should be done then I'll go ahead and do it (later). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:29, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I still think that FF could use it's own page, anyone else agree? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:27, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
::::I think having some sections say ''See Main Article: linky'', while some have the facts.  It looks inconsistent. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 21:00, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Ok so how does something like this look:
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=== Fun Facts ===

<big><big>''' Trivia '''</big></big>
:&mdash;<big>''' ''See [[Stinkoman 20X6 Trivia]].'' '''</big>

<big><big>''' Remarks '''</big></big>

:&mdash;<big>''' ''See [[Stinkoman 20X6 Remarks]].'' '''</big>

<big><big>''' Goofs '''</big></big>
:&mdash;<big>''' ''See [[Stinkoman 20X6 Goofs]].'' '''</big>

<big><big>''' Glitches '''</big></big>
:&mdash;<big>''' ''See [[Stinkoman 20X6 Glitches]].'' '''</big>

<big><big>''' Inside References '''</big></big>
:&mdash;<big>''' ''See [[Stinkoman 20X6 Inside References]].'' '''</big>

<big><big>''' Real-World References '''</big></big>
:&mdash;<big>''' ''See [[Stinkoman 20X6 Real-World References]].'' '''</big>

''Note: this version is the most recent as of '''22:09, 22 November 2005 (UTC)''' ''

----
It is only a sketch and this was the most concise and attractive version i could come up with. I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&diff=202399&oldid=202396 played with different alternatives] and like this one above the best. The [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&diff=202396&oldid=202395 original facts] section would have looked like [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&diff=202394&oldid=202391 this] in the page (sorry for the glowy box, i'm kinda fond of it). The one above would look something like [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&diff=202409&oldid=202405 this].  I also just noticed that the <code><nowiki><h4></nowiki></code> tags don't hide the TOC, just mess it up a bit (i remember running into that problem before), and so I would need to change those to <code><nowiki><div font></nowiki></code> tags in order to eliminate them out of the TOC, yet keep their size intact. Any suggestions? (I will be removing the H4 tags shortly for those who miss it, so you'll have to read the page history.) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:21, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

:The Sandbox version is prooty sweet - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 06:43, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

::Glad you liked it!  Which one did you prefer more? Version [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=202394 1] or Version [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=202409 2]? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:06, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:::I kinda like the first one. The second one makes the Table of Contents rather gargantuan... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::::Yeah I was trying to fix that problem.  I'd like the 2nd one better if I could get around the TOC problem (unless we were to hide it but that would be a copout). Oh... I think I have a better idea! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:54, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

::::Okay, so I went through 4 different revisions, three of which I liked: Version [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=203809 1b], [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&direction=next&oldid=203809 1c] (with index) and Version [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&direction=next&oldid=203813 2b] (no index), and still in contention is our original Version [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=202394 1]. I have also updated how version 2b looks above. Oh and I forgot to sign, anyway I did not mention that this version I posted do ''not'' show up in the table of contents at all!  Which looks pretty nice and does ''not'' have those pesky edit links after each entry... whaddya think?  --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:11, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Version 1 looks the best - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 08:50, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

:Thanks for the input! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:22, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

''Note: the sandbox versions do '''not''' show the edit links that would normally show if each version was implemented in the real page (except for 2b which was designed not to have indices and edit links). ''

:I posted that since I saw Volbeat's recent edit where he/she removed a comment about it and I thought it would be important to mention that for clarity.  If you guys think we should start some sort of vote (wether or not to use this idea and which version to use), or if more people would comment more on the versions, that would be greatly appreciated. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:22, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

::This is a great idea. Off to work I go. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 02:20, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

:::I've been moving these pages to more appropriate ones, namely, their respectful subpages, due to their content being exculsively from, and about Stinkoman 20X6. &mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 02:37, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

== Version 3 Mirror ==
:Formerly Version 2 Mirror

I have a working (i think) version of Stinkoman 20X6 v2. (is that the one with 4 levels?) When I get the chance to put it on my geocities server could it be put in an article? Just wondering, I don't mind if it can't. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 09:04, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

I checked the file and it is actually the one with 5 levels on it, I guess that makes it version 3. Anyways I forgot to put it on my web server and I won't be able to for 2 or 3 days. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 04:43, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:Geocities unfortunately has bandwidth issues with popular pages.  Have you checked to see if the [[Links#Mirrors|kitcorp mirror]] has that version already stored? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:20, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

::Me dunno. Last time I checked kitkorp, it didn't even have the stinko-updated games menu. But things may have changed in the last 5 or 6 months. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 13:43, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

:::Wow! yeah, they rarely ''do'' update. They don't even have the stinkoman game in their games menu! However, I was [http://homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/stinkogame/ lucky enough] to stumble into an [http://homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/v4/ old] [http://homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/v4/stinkogame.html version] they do have archived but does not contain the necessary XML files to make it playable, just the SWF.  Which may be why they don't have it in its games menu. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:18, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

:Yeah I am aware of the problems with geocities, but I don't know where else I can dump this mirror, anybody here able to host it? 
:At least there is a version 4 mirror on [http://homestarrunner.kitkorp.com kitkorp]. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 11:27, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
::I personally, am not able to host it at this moment. If that changes I will let you know. Does your version have all the xml files and stuff then? It would be nice to compile all the old versions in one place and all.  --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:16, 26 December 2005 (UTC)'
:No, but I have em on my comp anyways, so I can just zip em up all together. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:32, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
::Oooo! That would be cool! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:34, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
::I e-mailed it to myself today, as it's my first day of school, but my e-mail is busted for some reason. Just so you know I don't have the old Stinkomanual or Level -0.1, I have the newer versions.
:::That's not a problem, I'm not in a rush. :) I did want to remind you to sign your talk page posts though. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 13:54, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
::Yah that was an accident. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 08:12, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
::::No worries, I just wanted to give you a reminder (and for the benefit of other readers). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:13, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
:Well I managed to pull out a v6.X mirror including the object library from that version. What now? - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 06:01, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
::Not sure. Keep it around for now, perhaps we might ask Tom if it could be added to the hrwiki mirror? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:59, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
::Alright, well here is the speculations on it, It has the Game File, original object library, original XMLs, but I left out the cutscenes and I don't have a copy of the Stinkomanual from then. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 00:16, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

==Manual Change==

Has anyone noticed that the manual now shows the "Giving up already?" page right after Nebulon's boss page? Don't know when this happened.
:Not happening to me ''now'', but something similar happened to me a while back; maybe your cache needs updating (though that wouldn't explain my problem, as I intentionally always keep my cache at a bare minimum) or maybe it's a problem with the site. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:44, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
::It works fine for me... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]



== i made an installer ==
i made an installer for the game(levels 1-9) at
http://www.filelodge.com/files/room11/264414/stinkoman20x6.zip
what do i do with it?


== Music ==
Does anybody know where does the music of Stinkoman_20X6 comes from?, I think that should be pointed out in the article [[User:200.112.49.135|200.112.49.135]] 21:44, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

I do, I know! It comes from Stinkoman 20X6 (-.-") - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 04:37, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

You mean which MIDI maker progrum or whatever, right? -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 03:46, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

:I know! NOT Noteworthy Composer! :) -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 14:37, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
::NOR Garage Band! -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 14:21, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
:::Maybe it's Anvil Studio. - {{User:Gtxm78/sig}} 13:18, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
They probably just did it on a Casio keyboard. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 01:08, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

==Game Informer==
When I got the April 2006 issue of Game Informer, I was shocked that Stinkoman 20X6 has been featured in the beginning. Have you guys noticed this too? That is if you read Game Informer. {{User:Gordon 584.sig}}
: I had been informed by an online contact of mine, though I don't have a subscription myself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:37, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
==Rival and Stinkoman MM7 game==
Do you think that Stinkoman is going to get a rival? If so, it would be funny if its sprite was an edit of Bass's. 
It would be cool to have a new Stinkoman game with Megaman 7 graphics. It could even have a parody of the MM7 plot (Stinkoman's rival does a horrible attempt to trick Stinkoman into being his "friend", and Stinkoman easily falls for it) the Stinkoman version of Rush would be The cheat and Treble could be a rival The Cheat (The Cheat is a The Cheat, according to "Origins" and other sources"). This is just my idea. 
-Zyborg

==Marzipan Character==
I think it would be awesome to play a Marzipan character who "floats" like Princess Toadstool in Mario Bros 2. Or maybe the pompom character could be like Kirby? Perhaps those ideas would be better suited for 20X6 II or maybe a Homestar Runner side scroller. - {{unsigned|12.158.72.52|03:27, 17 April 2006}}

To answer, we look to the power of numbered lists:
#First of all, this doesen't have much to do with 20X6.
#The Brothers Chaps don't steal ideas.
#There is a [[Pom Pom]] counterpart already, his name is [[Pan Pan]], and he is the basis of Stinkoman 20X6's story.
#As for [[Marzipan]], here is a [[20X6 Marzipan|slightly abandoned idea]].
#Five.
#20X6 II? The first one isn't even finished. And screw a new Homestar game.
#Sign your posts please. use the <nowiki>~~~</nowiki> or <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> tags to sign your posts, even if you don't have an account.
#If you plan to delete this section of talk, don't think about it.

That is all. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:11, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
:#20X6 Marzipan is entirely 20X6 related.
:#The entire Stinkoman 20X6 is based off the NES Mega Man, with the sprites based off of Mega Man's.
:#True. So maybe Pan Pan could be this "pompom character". Although I don't think he'll float...
:#Yes, and she could appear again, as some kind a roll edit possibly.
:#Evif.
:#I agree. It's kind of too late to introduce 20X6 Marzipan. Pan Pan's still a possiblity, though. I highly doubt they're ever going to make a Stinkoman 20X6 II though.
:#Signing, whee...
:#Oop.
:: - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:22, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

:::Your reply is better than mine. You shall have five pies. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 00:06, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Maybe we could get the person on fanstuff making 'Stinkoman 20X6 2' to include some o' that. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 00:33, 20 April 2006 (UTC) Oh, and people who don't have an account yet don't ''have'' to sign. It's just a dumb string of numbers.

On the fanstuff wiki, I've started a Stinkoman 20X6 2 thing and DonZabu says he'll make it a reality using Game Maker Version 6. I'm not sure if that has anything to do with the current subject, but I just thought you'd like to know. 20X6 Marzipan should make another appereance. I mean, I'm sure that TBC wouldn't abandon the character. They might improve it's design like with Old-Timey Strong Sad, but hopefully not abandon it. -[[User:Mitchell00|Mitchell00]] 11:12, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
:Don't forget to everybody remember [[Trogador]]. Everbody thought he was abandoned until they surprised us by using him. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 11:56, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

== Last Boss Ideas ==

Is anyone thinking about what the final boss is? I think it has 2 forms. The first one would be the Shadowy Figure, and he could take 30 hits. But after you defeat him, you'll be transported to a the roof of the Evil Castle, and you'll fight Sol Giant, this '''GIANT'''  robot that takes 50 hits to kill, and takes '''TWO''' hits to register an actual hit, making it really take '''100''' hits to kill. Here's the transcript:

???? Where?--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 18:14, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Someone must have deleted it due to adequacy for the forum. Maybe the same guy that killed all the level 10 talk! Oh, may they rest in peace. *sniff* -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 13:58, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

:And it was TSG3. I knew it. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 14:04, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
::Give me a reason why I shouldn't have deleted them. Nobody wants to look at a page filled with complaints about a level that isn't here that are better suited to our forum, and I think others will agree with me. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 23:56, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
:::Man, even the forum doesn't want them anymore. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Well, I suppose I ment the forum is MORE suited than the wiki. Now, let's end this conversation, because I sence a flame war. (Call it a hunch.) --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 00:04, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I just don't have a lot to do. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 14:14, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
:::Now that I think about it, it was pretty stupid and pointless. But just look at 500 The Cheats! -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 14:19, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Here's my second idea. Level 10's boss is the Shadowy Figure/20X6 Coach Z, and he fights using a laser sword. After you beat him, there should be like a "Level Final" where the Shadowy Figure/20X6 Coach Z is in the Z-Wing(the name I gave to the Coach Z ship on the games menu), and he's trying to make a getaway. Is this better?

A third idea. Shadowy Figure/20X6 Coach Z with laser sword like Idea#2, but this time, when you beat him, he reveals this 4-legged mech that looks like something Dr. Wily from Megaman yould use, called the Z Machine(considering he is 20X6 Coach Z). Well, the Z Machine would have 3 forms. Form 1 just has 4 legs, Form 2 would have no legs, but would have 2 mechanical arms and would float about. Form 3 would just be the hovering Z Machine without arms or legs. This idea is a good one.

==Is Level 10 Ever Coming?==

Apparently so. I just stumbled across this in the forum, figured I'd bring it to the wiki if it's not already here yet, since it seems somewhat legitimate, what you might glean from an interview or the like, in the form of an [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=5995&start=69 email from Matt to Power Crunch]:

<blockquote>And don't sweat Stinkoman level 10. It's coming. For real. Our<br>
programmer guy moved away a year or so ago so it's been harder to put<br>
games together but we've got level 10 all figured out and hopefully it<br>
will rule.</blockquote>

So that's always a plus. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:41, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
::I am in fact, Power Crunch on the forum.  And I in fact, apologize if that's confusing.  But I in fact, must say, that if you'd like to read the whole letter.

<blockquote>Hey Daniel,
Sadly, we probably won't ever get a talking Homsar. The toys were all a 
pretty big pain in the butt to get made and cost a buncha money. I did 
recently find this awesome company that makes the little voice box type 
things for talking plush dolls:<br><br>

http://www.gmkmg.com/recordable_products.htm<br><br>

So if you happened to be able to sew or knew someone who could sew, then 
you could make a Homsar, stick one of those voice boxes in him and put 
your fav Homsar jams on it. I know that's kind of a ridiculous thing to 
suggest but I just thought of it cause I want to make a musical stuffed 
Epona (Link's horse from Legend of Zelda) for my brother's baby that 
plays Epona's Song when you squeeze it.<br><br>

And don't sweat Stinkoman level 10. It's coming. For real. Our 
programmer guy moved away a year or so ago so it's been harder to put 
games together but we've got level 10 all figured out and hopefully it 
will rule. We're also working on a big adventure game like Peasant's 
Quest except more like the Lucasarts point n' click style games. And 
this one will feature the actual characters from the website, not made 
up characters like Thy Dungeonman and Peasant's Quest.<br><br>

High five and thanks for writing.<br>
Matt<br>
</blockquote>

Yeah it's pretty cool. --{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 23:52, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
:Aww, the very, very little girl is getting a musical Epona. Cuuute! &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:01, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
::They're making a [[Wikipedia:Monkey Island series|''Monkey Island'']]-style game? Sounds cool. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:14, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
::: So their point-and-click game doesn't use made-up characters, but instead uses Homestar and Strong Bad? ''{head a splodes}'' (Yes, I know what he meant.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:32, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
What's that about a talking Homsar? -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 14:43, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Wait a second. Why would it be a problem that Jonathon moved away? He could still code the games as long as he had contact with TBC and an Internet connection. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 00:57, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
:It might've taken Jonathan a while to move in, or get an internet connection. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 01:03, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
::This talk page is for the article, not the game. This discussion really belongs on the forum. Thanks.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:16, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

So once the Brothers Chaps get a new programmer guy, we can expect Level 10 to come really soon? That's good to hear. At least we get to know what the really long holdup was.

==Loading screen==

"When you click it, "loading manuél" appears briefly."

I WILL FIND THE USER WHO WROTE THIS AND ASK HIM IF HE IS ASKING FOR A CHALLENGE!! Shouldn't it say, like "When you click it, the text "loading manuél" appears briefly." --[[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]] <small>(Left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do_sign_your_Talk_posts|unsigned]])</small>

Well, Marvelboy, the "quotation marks" signify that it's text appearing. But, hey, there's always [[HRWiki:Standards#Be_bold.2C_but_know_when_not_to_be|being bold]] and making the change yourself. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 20:28, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

To Marvelrulez: Calm down. [[sugarbob|Do you know how many Internet etiquette laws you're breaking by typing in all caps like that?]] Well, you're breaking one: Don't type in all caps. - {{User:Gtxm78/sig}} 13:23, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

== Continute ==

You expect this game having to let you skip levels? Well, I say that is cheating! I expect NO cheaters allowing to make this game, even if it takes me 40 days and 40 nights! What kind of garbage makes no passwords acquired to activate CONTINUTE, huh?
- From a loyal, somewhat etiquette fan, {{User:Viklas/sig}} 21:00, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

:Stinkoman uses [[Wikipedia:Local Shared Object|Local Shared Objects]] to store where you're up to in the game, so you can leave and come back and Continute still remembers where you are. One of the restrictions of LSOs is that they're restricted to one URL - when the game moved to a <code>/v2/</code> subdir, it could no longer access the continute data from before. Thus TBC had two choices &ndash; either force everyone who's beaten the game to beat it again every time a new level comes out, or let them start from the new level wherever they were up to before. They understandably chose the latter, because the former would be much more annoying. If you consider it cheating, feel free to not use the feature, and play the game from Level 1.1 every time; I'm not stopping you. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:59, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

::Look, man, I TRIED to get to Level 9.2, but appearently, I can't unless 9.1 is completed. -{{User:Viklas/sig}}
:::So then beat level 9.1...  {{User:Bassium!/sig}}

== Object Library??? ==

What exactly is the object library? Whenever I click on the link it just takes me to one of two things. Either the shield ally sign in the top-middle of the screen, or the sign to the  slight left-top of the screen and a half of and of those "Uptant-Octopus" things on the top-edhe of the screen. What gives?--[[User:Kirbychu HR'D|Kirbychu HR&#39;D]] 01:01, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't know. The object library used to be filled with stuff. Now, it's just... those things. Donno what happened. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 15:30, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

== Level 10 ==
Looking at this week's [[Weekly Fanstuff|fanstuff]], does anyone else think that TBC are giving us like, a hint at something? Kind of like how [[shapeshifter]] linked to [[Strong Bad Gameways|SB GWs]], which was a preview for [[Strong Bad's Cool Game For Attractive People|SBCG4AP]]? {{User:DevonM/sig}}

In an e-mail I sent to Strong Bad last week or so:<br>
"''PS: When is Stinkoman level 10 coming? We're already waiting three years!''"<br>
But with all the gazillions of people that e-mail Strong-o Bad-o there must be at least 100 that ask when Stinkoman Level 10 is coming. So I dunno, maybe it did the trick. [[User:AlmsforthePudgy|AlmsforthePudgy]] 14:35, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I think you mean [[Sketchbook]] instead of [[Weekly Fanstuff]]. [[User:AlmsforthePudgy|AlmsforthePudgy]] 14:45, 18 April 2008 (UTC)