Editing Talk:Drive-Thru

==Pretend Reference??==
Strong Bad ordering a "Chateau Pretend" may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:François-René de Chateaubriand|François-René de Chateaubriand]], a French author/political figure from the 18-19th century.  Strong bad uses the name in relation to food, and Chateaubriand was known for involvement in culinary arts.
:I think you're making the reference unnecessarily complicated. The way I see it, Chateau Pretend is a pretend wine. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 11:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::Lies. All lies. Clearly I'm the only one who knows how it all went down. Cast your mind back to [[car]], when Homestar gave a shout-out to Lemon Pretend. Whilst we can safely assume that within the fictional universe of Free Country, USA, Lemon Pretend is a type of pie, a search on Google turns back no recipies or even references to the existence of a Lemon Pretend pie (outside of the Homestar Runner reference, of course). It is through this method that I have come to the conclusion that the reference here is not a Real-World one, but one of the Inside demographic, and, as such, refers to the [[Strong Bad Email]] that usually goes by the name of "car". Thank you for your time. --[[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 12:27, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Um... I'm not all that convinced that having the word 'Pretend' in a foodstuff's name really qualifies it as an inside reference. Unless you can find a way of working Great Uncle Pawdabber's Pre-Tend Ice Cream Showdown into the reference somehow. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 16:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Considering the three instances of the word "[[Pretend]]" in three separate cartoons, this should be considered an Inside Joke and a page should be made for it. After all, we've made pages for [[All Is On|less]]. --[[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 18:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::It doesn't have to be a reference to be funny.  Pawdabber's ice cream is pretend because it's really just sour cream and The Cheat fur.  Chateau Pretend is pretend because the only real part of the restaurant is a cardboard box.  There's nothing notable about Strong Bad using a regular English word to mean the same thing on two occasions. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 19:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::Most likely a reference to [[Wikipedia:Château Latour|Château Latour]], considering he orders a bottle of it.
:::::::Agreed. Chateaubriand is a real stretch. [[User:JudahNielsen|JudahNielsen]] 22:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::::''My'' first thought was that the wine was a tad [[Glossary#P|pretendous]]. [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:43, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Just thought I'd mention, despite what is stated in the article, prétende IS actually a word in French - it is the subjunctive form of the verb prétendre.
:But it's being used here as an adjective, which isn't correct, right? Here's what our [[User talk:Meuhcoin#A couple transcript questions|resident native French speaker]] has to say about it... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:35, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, it is clearly incorrect french.  It is pseudo-french, which is part of the joke.  But the article states that it isn't a word in french, which is also incorrect.  I am also a native french speaker, by the way.

== Name that Tune ==

Gah... The tune the whale plays is ''extraordinarily'' familiar. I just can't place it, for the life of me. It's very frustrating. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 10:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

<!--::GAH! Yes! That's it. Thanks. Now it's obvious. --~~~ (Note to self: Self, add timestamp and remove tags when someone replies with the answer.)-->
:It sounds really familar to me to. It's really annoying. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 10:19, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::It reminds me a LOT of the music from one of the towns in [[Wikipedia:Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door|Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door]]. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 10:36, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::I think I've got it! It's the first few notes of the music that plays in Koopa Village in the original [[Wikipedia:Paper Mario|Paper Mario]]! Nailed it! [[:Image:Crappy Speaker Song.ogg|Compare]] the [[:Image:Koopa Village.ogg|two]]. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 10:50, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Those two don't sound that similar to me... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:04, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::The key may be a bit off. The tune seems similar to me, though. I very may well be tone-deaf. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 11:05, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Here's another idea [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Drive-Thru&diff=431666&oldid=431665 that was proposed]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
<blockquote>The tune that the drive-thru whale plays appears to be the first few notes from the theme song for the television show ''Night Court''.</blockquote>
After listening to [http://youtube.com/watch?v=7pod-uZH8s8 the theme from Night Court], I think they're similar, but different. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure it's from a game, possibly one on this site? (doubt it) - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 13:26, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Call me weird, but to me it sounds somewhat similar to the title screen themes in the Pokemon games. -Sumgirl

I think it's the beat that makes it familiar, rather than the tune. The beat is more or less the same as the [[Everybody Knows It]] song. [[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 17:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

TSSG3: When you try to match the two up, [[:Image:Speaker Song BW Koopa Village.ogg|even when you're nice]] to the beats, you don't get much of a hit. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 20:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Isn't it the chorus from the Gorillaz track "Dirty Harry"?

:I looked it up and it matches pretty well. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 22:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:No, it's not. I just listened to it. --{{User:SyrenaV/sig}} 01:20, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

It's not Paper Mario, I have that game, or Night Court (I looked it up on YouTube). [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 22:22, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't know, I'm pretty convinced by Night Court. The groove is different, but the melodic contour is the same. Both songs start on Bb, move through a major chord (w/ ornamentation) to rest briefly on F, peak on Ab, and descend by way of G and F. The crappy-speaker song is more or less what you'd get if you took Night Court, changed the tempo, set it to a different beat, and changed some of the little in-between notes. &mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]]

For the musically challenged: [[:Image:Drive-Thru Tune.png]]. The real tune from the toon, the Koopa Village tune that TSSG3 posted, Night Court pulled from some MIDI I found on the net, and Dirty Harry, from me, since I own that one... all shifted to start on C, so they're easier to compare. They're don't really seem all that similar to me... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:24, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

The 2nd half of the song is identical for all intents and purposes to night court and the first half is 'similar' -[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 03:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

It sounds a little Daytime TV to me, and it's said right after the word Password...does anyone know what the theme to that gameshow was? I've been trying to YouTube it for a few minutes...actually something in the background could have been it. I'll keep searching. There's 4 themes, I can find...one. Just a thought, probably nothing. ~ Shadix

The tune reminds me a bit of the music from the first level of the NES game Mappy Land.. but is slightly different.  --[[User:AshyRaccoon|AshyRaccoon]] 05:54, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Which in turn was a lyricless version of "This little light of mine". The whales song does sound similar.{{User:Sesshoumaru Cian/sig}}

The instrument sounds extremely similar to keyboard-headed-Strong Bad's keyboard, and considering its association with the Drive-thru Whale, it might make sense, seeing as it's very similar to what one may expect from Sweet Cuppin' Cakes. --[[User:199.94.78.180|199.94.78.180]] 16:21, 20 March 2007 (UTC).

It sounds like a sped up version of the 'living in the gutter with grandma' song to me. [[User:202.72.133.195|202.72.133.195]] 00:12, 21 March 2007 (UTC)


Noone's gotten this yet? Maybe you guys need to buy more playsets and toys!™ (hint, hint) {{unsigned|64.112.196.145|01:04, 21 March 2007 (UTC)}}
:If you're implying that it's the [[Cheat Commandos]] theme, then: no. It's not even remotely similar. It's nothing like the [[SBLOUNSKCHED!]] jingle, either... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:16, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I figured it was the ''Night Court'' theme mainly because it works about the same way as Homestar's beanie: it plays the music when the thingie on top is in motion. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 05:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:The only thing this discussion is showing is that this probably isn't based off of any actual song at all. I've heard all of the above-mentioned tunes, and I seriously doubt it's any of them. In my opinion, it was just a small jingle and nothing more. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 19:33, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Another thing it's kinda similar to but not really: the breakdancing rodent in [[isp]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 22:38, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:Unfortunately for me, the tune reminds me of a less crappy version of Robbie Williams' "Lovelight". I doubt that TBC would have such terrible taste in music. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 20:03, 23 March 2007 (UTC)


I think I have an idea. This song sounded familiar to me when I heard it, and I have a keyboard that TBC evidently have, as evidenced by the fact that the jingle bells song in the decemberween sweet cuppin cakes was a demo on my keyboard. Maybe it's a demo song from some keyboard. TBC have a tendency to use keyboard demos often. I dunno, I'm gonna dig around for that keyboard tomorrow, I would tonight but the kids are asleep. James 03:33, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I think it kinda sounds like part of Space Captainface's theme song.

== Distorted speaker ==

The lines Strong Bad hears as "Sever your leg", I hear that the speaker is saying "Serve to your right", or something similar... and, {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Drive-Thru&diff=431603&oldid=431600 like Shwoo}}, I hear "seventh window". The others I hear the same as SB, but I wouldn't be surprised if I'm mishearing any or all of these... what do you think? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:20, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:I distinctly heard "seventh window" too, even before there was a transcript. I stand with "sever your leg", though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 10:21, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:I can't really hear "serve to your right". There's no t sound. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 10:25, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::It's confirmed in the New Stuff section. The description is "Sever your leg, please, sir." --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 11:13, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Not really, the toon description there could be quoting SB, it was one of the funny lines in the toon after all... Oh well, ''{waits patiently for QotW}''. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:20, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
I heard "serve to your right" the first time I watched it, but after listening it to a few more times, I hear "sever your leg". "Seventh window" is definetely correct. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 13:35, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::In terms of the window, I almost hear "south window". [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 15:55, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::I hear "sever your leg" and that's all I hear. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 01:13, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

It tells the lobster to sever its leg, or whatever it really said, and the lobster severed its leg...

I hear "steve turn around to the seventh window"
I absolutely hear "steve turn around to the seventh window" as well -[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 03:20, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

The distorted speaker also reminded me of the ones from [[what I want]]. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 22:32, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:It totally is! Those nobots are also referred to as having "drive-thru stereo." [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 16:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I hear "the lake head".  In all seriousness, I think TBC actually said "sever your leg" because they don't want people thinking that it's anything else.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 09:29, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

== Jeeves ==

Reginald Jeeves is a character created by P.G. Wodehouse who appears in a number of short stories and novels. In the literature, Jeeves works as the valet of Bertie Wooster. Due to the popularity of the series, the name Jeeves is frequently used in popular culture to refer to chauffeurs, butlers, and waiters. [[User:Spiderbaby|Spiderbaby]] 14:12, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:[[TTATOT]]. Jeeves is a common servant name, and this almost certainly doesn't reference any specific one. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 06:35, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
::What in blazes is a "common servant name"? Household staff use their own names; they aren't given names by their employers. Wodehouse's Jeeves is the prototype upon which all later Jeeves were based. As Spiderbaby said, Wodehouse was (and still is) very popular. Do you also say that referring to a humbug cheapskate as a Scrooge is TTATOT? --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 21:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Wodehouse invented Jeeves, therefore, any reference to Jeeves is a reference to Wodehouse, or at the very least a reference to the trend begun by Wodehouse--[[User:Sir Vimes|Sir Vimes]] 22:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

 '''This fact is currently being voted on in [[STUFF:Drive-Thru|STUFF]]. Please discuss over there, not here. Thanks'''

==Whale speaker==

What fast food place has a whale for its speaker? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 15:48, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
: Invisible ones? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I think the trend of having the order speaker/mic live inside of a mascot started with Jack-in-the-box, which used to have the speaker/mic inside a clown's mouth. [[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 18:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== That was...odd. ==


I don't really see what this short was about... --[[User:Das654|Das654]] 16:11, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:That was my initial reaction too. You can talk more about it at the forum instead of here, please. There's a nice link to the thread at the bottom of Drive-Thru. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 16:13, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::As I propose below, I think its about something that was on cable on March 18th.  [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 19:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

==Echo==

*Is the echo becoming a running gag? That is, an echo where there wouldn't normally be one? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:18, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
**Only other instance I could find by searching the wiki for "echo" was in [[4 branches]].  But it is a running gag in [[wikipedia:Rosencrantz_and_Guildenstern_Are_Dead| Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead]]. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 19:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
***It's an echo. Couldn't possibly be a running gag unless the website was called "Echo-Star Echoes.com". An echo where there's no thing for the sound waves to be is a common animation technique used in many shows. No running gag. {{User:Strong Devon/sig}}

== Pro-awesome ==

I hear "'''B'''ro-awesome". I don't know what that means, but I don't hear a "P" sound. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
: And, while on the subject, I don't hear "Steer your car around" either, though in that case I'm kinda unsure ''what'' I'm hearing. I think part of it is "turn around" though. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:43, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:I agree with Bro-awesome, but I hear "Stee your car around" which just sounds like the whale didn't pronounce the R very clearly, and I can't imagine what else that would be.  --SamuraiMoose
::Yup, I definitely hear bro. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 20:25, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah. I hear 'bro-awesome', no question about it. [[User:Yadaman|Yadaman]] 13:24, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I vote 'bro' as well--[[User:Sir Vimes|Samwise]] 23:03, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::Another '''b'''ro guy, here. I agree completely. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 21:29, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::But "pro-awesome" makes more sense, if you ask me. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:33, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Since when has H*R made sense? Wouldn't "Strong Sad/Mad, there's ketchup on the computer!" Make more sense than "[[funny|Aunt Ruthie! Aunt Ruthie! There's ketchup on the computer!]]", seeing as there's no one named Aunt Ruthie? *cough* anyway, put your ear up to the speaker, and it's "Bro". I thought it meant something like showing how SB and Teh C are bros, or something. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 01:39, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::::I'm thinking that SB is going to say broken (in reference to video- and collectable card-game slang meaning ridiculously overpowered) and says awesome midway through instead. [[User:igot8001|igot8001]]  21:18, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

== a blue one? ==

Strong Bad says "how 'bout a blue one for my little friend"; does this seem to anyone else like a possible reference to Strong Sad's "the blue ones"? [[User:66.251.25.205|66.251.25.205]] 18:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:I thought about that too, but I think it's a coincidence &mdash; there's nothing else to tie the two together. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:33, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:It's a fluke, there's no connection.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 21:02, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:It did occur to me as well. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

::I thought it was a reference to [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]] where everyone drink colored ones. But The Cheat drink a red one and bubs the blue one. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:12, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

:I think it is, personally. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 07:23, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Y'know what I think? This is '''totally''' not a ref, but when I heard that,  for some reason I thought it was a nod to The Matrix! You know, with the whole, red pill/blue pill thing. {{User:WeirdAl/sig}} 19:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

::That ''might'' have been plausible had the alternative been red instead of brown, but even then it would have been a major stretch. Personally, I don't think it's either of these. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 21:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:Obviously none of you have ever worn blue boxer shorts underneath your trousers, or you would know this is clearly not a reference.
::How are those two statements connected? I'm confused. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 07:53, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

:Wha 'bout when Stron Bab sez "They're all out of blue ones"? Are you ''sure'' that's not a [[Bug In Mouth Disease]] reference? --[[User:IT'S A LION!|IT&#39;S A LION!]] 18:08, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

There's no consensus here to put this on the page, but here's the fact as it read when it was removed from the article. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:17, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
<blockquote>The fact that The Cheat wants a "blue one" crappy toy could be a throw-back to [[Bug In Mouth Disease]] in which Strong Sad finds his underwear, ie: [[The Blue Ones]]</blockquote>

== Rocket Sound ==

Hey, the sound for The Compressor sounds a lot like Bubs's pumpkin from the [[Pumpkin Carve-nival|Carve-nival]]. [[User:71.192.94.44|71.192.94.44]]

:Yeah, I suppose it does. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 21:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

== Actual reference to what was on TV last night? ==

My little brother informs me that he saw something on cable yesterday concerning the potential for real lobsters on Europa.  I want to put together a more solid reference than "my little brother told me"--for instance the name of the show and even better, the episode.  Anybody know a good way to find out what was on TV last night?  Or maybe someone saw the show and can remember what it was called?  [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 19:01, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I think it was Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy, the episode "Guess WHAT'S Coming to Dinner?" Chaos!

*If you saw it on tv the night before it isn't a reference to that.  It could be some other news concerns from a while ago, but that is a big part of this short.  It isn't a little thing they could add in last-minute.

== Fun with Facts ==
"Sperm whales are not known to eat lobsters, Europa-pean or otherwise."  To this I'd like to add "Drive through speakers are not known to eat anything, or have a hidden Europan-lobster-powered rocket, or stand out in the middle of a field where no restaurant has ever been or ever will be.  [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 19:21, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:I agree. That "fun fact" isn't much fun at all. It was probably just some weird, bizarre ending TBC came up with. It had nothing to do with the mascot being a whale.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 19:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:Whoever first wrote this article must have been desperate for "fun" facts and "trivia", because some of them seem pretty weak.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 21:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:: Yeah, what the crap was that about? *mumble*... {{User:Visorbot 386/sig}} 00:49, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
:::It seems to me just a way to get rid of the whale and not have to show it in the field in any future toons.--[[User:Sir Vimes|Samwise]] 23:04, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I'm starting to wonder just why it was even there to begin with...but I do love how many proposed Fun Facts are under fire right now. There isn't a whole lot you can really say about this thing. --{{User:SyrenaV/sig}} 17:24, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

== Reference? ==

Just looking at the article of the day, I think the table in the easter egg is the top of the [[Jail|jail]]. Anyone else? - {{User:HeyMama/sig}}
:Looks like the same box to me.  ([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 23:47, 19 March 2007 (UTC))
::The shading is different in a few spots, it doesn't have "JAIL" or "A BOX" or the bars, but is clearly based on that box. If you view the .swf file in something like media player classic, or directly in the browser, and resize the window so you can see further below on the box.. and flip it horizontally.. it does share features. Overall shape, and most shading. --[[User:AshyRaccoon|AshyRaccoon]] 02:52, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
:::To me, the top looks like from one of those eStrong Vague Online Investments from [[looking old]]. Yeah? No? Maybe so? --{{User:Ang the Ephemeral/sig}} 11:45, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==

Do we really need the "300 ft. equals 100 yd...." under the trivia section?  It's not really needed, and it's got nothing to do with anything.  Also, did anyone else think that this was a little more... "outlandish" than usual?--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 20:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:No, I think that part could be left out. The kilometers could be left in, as there are some Wiki Users from "across the pond."--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 02:56, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
:And just north of you. <.< --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}}
::Yeah, them too.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 19:55, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

== Extra Sauce? ==
When Strong Bad orders, he asks for extra sauce.  In Strongest Man in the World, Homestar tells Pom-Pom to "Pour on that extra sauce" when they're training.  Possible inside reference?
:I don't think so.  [[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 22:11, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

::I'm pretty sure this is a coincidence, especially because a lot of "specials" include some kind of sauce.  It's a common thing to order extra sauce.  Plus, I'm pretty sure he said "extra-size," mispronouncing exercise. --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 02:58, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Actually, I guess the transcript does say "extra sauce."  But I still think it's a total coincidence. --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 03:06, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

== Weird Al Reference? ==

I saw that Weird Als music video for "Trapped In The Drive-Thru" was released on Myspace Video yesterday. Reference?

:First of all, SIGN YOUR NAME!!!! And, second, yeah, when I saw the title, I thought, "Hey, is this a ref to "TitDT?" It MIGHT be a reference, just MIGHT. I '''do''' think it's too simalar sounding to be a coincidence...I mean, TWO videos about a drive-thru in, like, 1 1/2 days??!?!?! What do all a y'all think??? -{{User:WeirdAl/sig}} 00:05, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

::First of all, NO SHOUTING!!!! :-p Well, considering that it takes TBC about a day and a night to animate a sbemail (I think they said that in an interview), and that this toon is much shorter than recent sbemails, it's definitely possible. But it would have required them to see the video as soon as it was released, drop the toon/sbemail they were working on, come up with an idea in no time and start working on the animation immediately. And for all that effort, there is no clear reference to the Weird Al video in this toon (as far as I can see). So yes, it's possible, but highly unlikely. Definitely a stretch.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:15, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

:::A stretch, but ''exactly'' what I my brother and I thought when we saw the title of the toon, knowing the Weird Al video was out the same day. :) --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:28, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Loafing: In a normal case, I'd agree with you. But look closely at the animation. It looks rushed, like it was made in a hurry. (i.e. The Cheat's eyes) Didn't you notice? ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 21:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'll put it up as a remark. If anyone objects, just delete it. {{User:WeirdAl/sig}} 19:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

== Speed to Europa ==

:''For the rocket to have traveled the minimum distance of 628,089,000 kilometers (390,276,411 miles, 4.2AU) to Europa and back in the 1:30 between the rocket's launch and its landing, it must have traveled at an average speed exceeding 23 times the speed of light.''
I moved this here from the article, since we have several precedents of moving calculations to the talk page. (See [[Talk:A Folky Tale#Physics|Talk:A Folky Tale &rarr; Physics]] for an example.) &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:08, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
: For reference, I ''would'' like to note that the calculation is more than possible, as there are is no "lost time" between the rocket's launch and landing (ie. no cuts where time would have elapsed.) And I think it's worth noting on the main page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:20, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I note that this calculation doesn't take the [[Wikipedia:Theory of Relativity|Theory of Relativity]] into account. If it did, the rocket would return a long time before it left. &mdash; [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 14:23, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

== Going too far? ==

Ok, is this just strange?  [http://www.sae.org/technical/papers/2003-01-2586 Europa and Lobster connection, not the arctic connection.]

== Metaverse Ponderances ==

Is it just me, or is the Homestar Runner universe in general getting more and more incoherent, surreal and disorganised? I've noticed a trend in recent months towards the characters becoming more and more delusional, and the situations they find themselves in less and less comprehensible. Is something akin to the virus outbreak (albeit slower and on a less noticable level) happening again? -- Andreus 18:48, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

:It could be a lead up to the [[montage|inkjet era]], and how [[Strong Bad]]'s printer will break, seemingly beginning with [[Strong_Bad_Email|Strong Bad Email]] 173. {{User:Supuhstar/sig}}

::Well, TBC haven't always been entirely truthful with their references.  [[personal favorites]] (sbemail #69) comes to mind.  none of those emails ever existed. --[[User:Sir Vimes|SHH]] 23:00, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Actually, the first two emails in [[personal favorites]] ''did'' in fact take place. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 00:03, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

:::That was Strong Bad personally "[[History_according_to_Strong_Bad|dwelling]]" on past experiences. This is a prediction done by a non-Strong Bad sourse that seems to be sober, or at least moreso than Strong Bad is or says he is by all his references to [[Cold_One|cold ones]]. {{User:Supuhstar/sig}}

:Also, don't forget [[dangeresque 3]]. TBC will probably just joke about it if people are really expecting something. I doubt that the Paper would get retired, though.--[[User:CertifiedArborist|CertifiedArborist]] 20:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

== Why the first rocket launch fizzled ==

I tried to add this to the reference, but it was reverted.

The reason the rocket performed so poorly when Strong Bad first attempted to launch (without the compressOR) it was that he forgot to fill it half full of water. For those familiar with the toy water rockets in question, they behaved exactly that way without the water in them. Seems like everything I contribute gets immediately reverted. Sort of makes it not worth the attempt. [[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 21:30, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
:Nsayer, I am the one who reverted it because, A: if you look through the redd transparent plastic, you can see water bubbling, and B: it's still not notable. As for your edits being reverted, we always appreciate well-intended contributions, even if they do have to be removed. Please do not get discouraged. Most of my early edits were reverted also. You will get better with time. I will admit I tend to be a bit more conservative on facts than some others, and for that I am sympathetic. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 21:36, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
:: I looked really close and didn't see any water bubbling, and lacking water makes these rockets do *exactly* what Strong Bad's did. As for notability, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. [[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 22:02, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
::: I saw bubbles at the top of the rocket while SB's pumping it. (*shrugs*) --[[User:AshyRaccoon|AshyRaccoon]] 01:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I definitely see some bubbling while he's pumping.   ([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 13:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC))
:::::Even so (I must still be missing them), no water shoots out of the rocket when it "lifts off". [[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 15:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::I viewed the swf file, zoomed in, to see the bubbles.  But I've definitely no arguments with that: I'd expect water to be jetting out the bottom of the rocket. --[[User:AshyRaccoon|AshyRaccoon]] 02:16, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::I've gotta side with Nsayer here; I definately don't see any bubbles. {{User:Supuhstar/sig}}
:::::Definitely bubbles.  Watch again when he pumps, change the html to swf for a better view [[User:CrankyPants|CrankyPants]]

== Steve Drive Around... ==

Okay, when the whale says what is currently transcribed as "Steve, drive around to the seventh window", I'm actually hearing "'''Stay dry around to the seventh window'''".  Anyone else hearing that?

The possibilities that I've seen so far (that I'm aware of - feel free to add) are:
* "Please drive around to the seventh window"
* "Steve, drive around to the seventh window"
* "Stay dry around to the seventh window"
* "Steer your car around to the seventh window"

{{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

:I just listened to this part of the toon closely for the first time, and I (independently) asked someone if there was a discussion anywhere about it. Without any knowledge of what was in the transcript, I asked: "I hear ''''Steve drive around...'''' ... Is that one of the choices?" So that gets my vote. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

::I hear The second one and possibly the first.  --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 21:58, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

:::What I actually hear is "Stee turn around to..." As I don't believe "Stee" is a word, I'm thinking it's probably "Steve" or some other word. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:03, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Upon the first 13 listenings, I heard "steve, drive", but after slowing it down and listening to it with noise removal, I heard "please drive". [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 22:05, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, a nice opportunity to show you all what I showed to DeFender. [http://the-mu.net:8080/stevecararound.ogg Slowed down and noise removal'd.] ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 22:08, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

:::::Well, I can't open .ogg files, but I heard "Steve, dry around to the seventh window." <s>Hang tight and do not respond while I put it through my own noise filter. (I'll be back in 1-6 minutes)</s>
:::::Done! And I heard time and time again, "Steve, dry around to the seventh window." If you could convert that .ogg to a .mp3, .wav, .wma, .flac, or .dmse, I could hear it and pass judgement with an unbias oppinion. {{User:Supuhstar/sig}}

I heard "Steve" the second or third time around. At any rate it definitely sounded like it started with "S," whatever it was. I don't think it was "please." Mighta been "Steer your car around" but it sounds more like "Steve turn around" to me. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 05:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:I heard "Please". But that could just be my ears deciding what to hear for me because it works so well in context. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 17:00, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:I heard "Steve *turn* around..." [[User:Gus|Gus]] 17:34, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[http://the-mu.net:8080/stevecararound.mp3 Here it is in MP3 format.] Before you make any conclusions, <u>please</u> listen to this file. It may not clear up the confusion between "steve" and "steer", but you can definitely hear a "c" sound in "car" as opposed to a "d" as in "drive." ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 19:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
:Sorry, no. I can't hear "car" even when I'm listening specifically for it. After multiple listenings, filtered and unfiltered I still hear a "St" sound at the beginning of the first word (so it's not "please") and the second word still sounds like "drive". &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:29, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
::I hear "'''Steve, drive around to the seventh window'''", with little ambiguity. Yes, it doesn't make sense to include "Steve", but a lot of the other things that crazy whale says don't make sense either. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:33, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
:::So, after a repeated viewing this morning, I suddenly can't understand how I initially thought it was "please". It's most definitely "Steve", whoever he is. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 14:50, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
:I hear either one, depending on what I am listning for. It's hard to tell what it's supposed to be.

== Congratulations, trainer! Your "The Cheat" evolved! ==

Doesn't anyone noticed that The Cheat looks a litte bit different? His eyes and "beak/nose" seem different. Anybody noticed that? {{User:Darkangel/sig}}
::I don't see anything. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 03:27, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
:::The eyes ''were'' further over a lot of the time, but that's because he was looking to the right a lot. This has happened a few times in past toons and emails; it was just more common here. It's nothing too noteworthy. As for the voice, ''all'' of the characters' voices have changed at one time or another throughout the course of the series. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 06:41, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

==Sweet Cuppin' Cakes==

Doesn't the whale somewhat resemble the cow-hellicopter from Sweet Cuppin' Cakes? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 03:34, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
:Sherlock does appear to have more in common with whales than cows or helicopters (but then, most things have more in common with those than Sherlock). But any connection between the two is entirely speculation. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:37, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

== Echo II: Echo-lectric Boogaloo ==

Here's a deleted remark that's at least interesting. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
<blockquote>When Strong Bad shouts at the drive-thru whale about being isolated in the middle of the field, his voice echoes even though there is nothing else in the field for the sound of his voice to bounce off of.</blockquote>
:I was the one that deleted it, and this is the reason: the speed of sound is exactly 769.5 miles per hour. An echo can bounce off of an object over 5 miles away given the proper conditions. Even during the two or three pan-outs of the field, there was simply no way to be certain that there was nothing for the echo to resound off of. We've also seen numerous buildings in Free Country, USA, any one of which could have been just out of our range of vision. In addition, even if it were true, the echo was made for comedic effect, as in many TV shows, movies, and cartoons. It's really no more noteworthy than say... Homsar's feet making a silly sound when he walks. Sure, that wouldn't normally happen, but it's a cartoon. Incidentally, thanks for taking this to the discussion page in order to clear this up. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 07:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
::On a different tack, the echo effect is clearly post-production to enhance the "surrounded by nothing" notion. It's obviously not even notable that the echo can or can't exist in this instance as its use is clearly dramatic, not realistic. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:26, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

== Zelda reference? ==

I know it's a it of a stretch, but could the whale flying away at the end be a reference to those time telling eye-rocks in Zelda: Majora's Mask?-Ashley

:Oh, I know exactly what you're talking about &mdash; those things are creepy! They launch when you hit them with the hammer or blow them up with a bomb, or something, right? Probably a coincidence, but interesting connection! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 09:48, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

::Kinda reminded me of one of flying enemies in level 1 of Ghosts N Goblins, but I agree with Trey... stupid coincidence magazine.  {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 11:42, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't see the connection. (And BTW, they're in [[Wikipedia:The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time|Ocarina of Time]] as well.) ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 20:41, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

what this reminds me of, though its nothing to do with zelda, is the Lunar Whale from Final Fantasy V that carries characters from earth to the moon.  Could it be a reference to that instead? (or a reference to both?)

::The Big Whale is from Final Fantasy 4, not 5, BTW. Kind of a stretch, either way, though... -{{User:YK/sig}} 06:30, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it was a reference to anything. I think it was just supposed to be some kind of alien pod sent to get food, in the same manner Strong Bad sent the toy rocket to get Lobsters. -[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 00:14, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

::Oh yeah, it was FFIV, sorry...  After watching it a couple of times, I'm starting to think that its just random. --[[User:Sir Vimes|Sir Vimes]] 20:32, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

If anything, the concept of a "Space Whale" could be a reference to the original SNES StarFox, which featured a space whale. By itself it's a reference to the game StarGlider II which also had space whales, and is the direct ancestor to StarFox (StarGlider II was from Argonaut). But ultimately, StarGlider II's space whales may be a reference to "Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home".[[User:24.203.165.35|24.203.165.35]] 09:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

== severed limbs ==

Personally, I believe that the "sever your leg" comment is an inside joke. It is another reference to severed limbs. There should probably be a page for it.

You be the judge:

In the email "cliffhangers," Lappy has a "severed little toe," ie the comma. In "Halloween Potion-ma-jig" Pom Pom pulls out a severed toe to add to Homestar's potion. There's always the many references to Strong Sad's severed head. And, Strong Bad's severed head when he was commenting on the costumes, although I'm not sure which one it was. And Coach Z, at one point, thought he found Biscuitdoughhandsman's severed hand.

I'm not sure if there are any more. Those are the ones I could think of.

I hope this warrants a sub-category. If not, no worries. It was just a thought.

:Now that you mention it, severed body parts have come up alot... do they already have a page?  Let me check.  If not, we should put one up.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 19:37, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

::Yeah, like in [[Peasant's Quest]] where you can [[Peasant%27s_Quest_Responses#T|try]] to [[Peasant%27s_Quest_Responses#C|cut off your arms, legs, and head]], or in [[disconnected]] where he separates his head from his body, or in [[virus]] where [[Bubs]] used [[Homestar Runner]]'s severed leg for a shotgun (and in the [[virus#Easter Eggs|easter egg]] where [[Fightgar]] uses it as an automatic laser gun). Or those countless uses of [[Strong Sad]]'s severed head. Or even way back in [[some kinda robot]] where he says "Do you take off your face and hands before you go to bed?" {{User:Supuhstar/sig}}

:::You might should add them to [[Severed Body Parts|the page]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:09, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Thanks so much. I'm new to this, or I would have done that myself [[Mgkish742]]
:::::Wasn't there also, at some point, some mention of selling Strong Sad's foot as an elephant garbagecan?

Have any of you noticed that before the sign swallowed the lobster it severed its claw when told to?  This might be a stretch, but is it possible that the swallowing and take off sequence of the sign is somehow triggered by the severing of limbs?  -Scholar of Homestar
:That's what I thought when I first saw this toon.  I thought the whale was some sort of predator that acted like a drive-thru box, then told the person to sever their leg, thus rendering them unable to run away.  Then the whale could feast! [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 03:59, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

== Wallpaper ==

I've made a wallpaper for this cartoon, you can get it at [http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/4379/sbdrivethru1024cj4.png] - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 14:08, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

== Is that Homestar in There? ==

Doesn't a lot of what the whale says seem to be done in a very similar style as Homestar?  I honestly expected him to jump out of the whale at the end.  --TheBlue (not registered) Mar 26 19:41 (UTC)
:Doesn't really sound like him.  The first thing I thought of, actually, was a Stinkoman reference, but I can't see (or hear) anything really relating to that either.  Ever get the impression TBC did this toon just to throw us all off? :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 05:00, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

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=== Ask Inviso-Jeeves ===
{{stufffact|The name "Inviso-Jeeves" in the Easter egg is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Jeeves|Reginald Jeeves]], the famous valet from [[Wikipedia:P.G. Wodehouse|P. G. Wodehouse]]'s series of novels. The name "Jeeves" is often used in popular culture for characters in similar professions, such as butlers and waiters.}}
{{stuffverdict|09:38, 20 March 2007 (UTC)|13:11, 27 March 2007 (UTC)|accepted as revised|26|14|Drive-Thru}}

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=== Al Aboard ===
{{stufffact|The animated music video for "Weird Al" Yankovic's "Trapped in the Drive-Thru" was released on MySpace the same day this came out.}}
{{stuffverdict|19:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)|22:49, 24 March 2007 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|23|6|Drive-Thru}}

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=== Infinitely Probable Reference ===
{{stufffact|The whale, restaurant, space, and improbability of this toon reference 'The Restaurant at the End of the Universe' by Douglas Adams}}
{{stuffverdict|23:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)|17:05, 22 March 2007 (UTC)|declined|29|11|Drive-Thru}}