User talk:Darth Katana X

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R.I.P. Sir Katana.

Page Moves

Hello zombie. In the context of previous discussions you had on this wiki, I can only assume that moving Inconsistencies Within the Homestar Runner Universe without discussion was trolling. Don't do it again, or you will be blocked. Loafing 20:49, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

If you sincerely think that's trolling, you're not very smart. If not, you're just a big meanie. :( Read this and learn what real trolling is all about, O misguided one. — Darth Katana X ( ) 10:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

You should be aware, and if you're not then I need to make you aware, that based on the definitions put forth on the page linked to above, you are a troll. In particular:

Trolling refers to deliberate and intentional attempts to disrupt the usability of [an online venue, such as a wiki,] for its editors, administrators, developers, and other people who work to create content for and help run [it]. Trolling is deliberate violation of the implicit rules of Internet social spaces.

You should know by now that nobody agrees with you concerning the term "universe" (and, come on, are we still having that discussion? Can you really not see that it is a perfectly good dictionary word? Can you really not see its widespread and legitimate use in both print and online sources? Can you really not see how it applies to Homestar Runner? Even The Brothers Chaps use the term. Often. It's time to start agreeing with us on that issue). Therefore, moving the page without discussion because you personally consider the term to be "jargon" (when you are fully aware that the consensus of the other users of this wiki is that it is not a jargon term) must be interpreted by us as intentional disruption.

    If you sincerely think that it's not trolling, well, I'll let you read your own post. There are several suggestions on the page you linked to for how not to come across as a troll when people think you are one. The first one pretty much sums it up well: If people are saying you're a troll because you do a particular thing, don't do that thing. If you ever hope to get along here, then you're gonna have to revolutionize your approach, especially in the area of rephrasing your viewpoints. Namely:

• You're hostile. By this point, we're all predisposed to disagree with you just because every time you post we have to gear up for a fight.
• Rather than present reasoned, sourced arguments, you attack us with terms like "fanboy-esque" and make unfounded claims that untold numbers of "users may be turned off" by inconsequential things.
• When making a potentially controversial suggestion, you poison the well with an edit summary that reads, in part, "Do your worst."
• You attack the administration and processes of the wiki using underhanded edit summaries like "Big boy with the banning power didn't change a thing".
• Most recently, you have repeatedly called a particular sysop "misguided" in an attempt to smear his name (or perhaps bait us into a flame war) when in fact you are proving him to be right on the money.

Over the last year or so, a around a dozen people have written you pages and pages about how to be a better user within this community. Please heed our advice. — It's dot com 16:06, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, I guess I am a troll of sorts, but my moving the page was well-intentioned. I think that if I weren't the scum of the wiki, many would agree with my edit. I'm more of a misunderstood WikiAnarchist with good intentions. — Darth Katana X ( ) 18:04, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

See, it's not what you want to do (per se) but the way you go about doing it. You shouldn't move a page for the reason you moved it without discussion. Or, given the fact that we have had that discussion ad nauseum, you simply shouldn't have moved the page at all. We really don't need anarchy around here. Please stop being a troll of any sort. — It's dot com 18:36, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

It had nothing to do with the term or jargon, but that the title is drawn-out and "Inconsistencies" is perfectly concise and is a more natural name for the page. I know I cheese off most of you, but do keep in mind that I am a very lighthearted person and sometimes (most times?) I mean things with far less extremeness/evilness than they could be interpreted with (like the anti-HRWiki note I left on Wikipedia one time, which I regret). — Darth Katana X ( ) 18:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey DKX

I'm noticing you're expressing interest in being more of a contributor. i think that's great. You might want to think about being less curt with the people with whom you need to work. I can tell you that everyone needs to learn this at some point. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  04:14, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the acknowledgement. It means a lot. Good to see somebody doesn't identify me as a troll. ;) And yeah, I'll try to be nicer for sure. I am right now! — Darth Katana X ( ) 06:08, 11 March 2007 (UTC)