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:::::The puppet stuff is listed under promotional material for the game, and it definitely fits that description. In other words, it wasn't created just for the heck of it; it was created to generate interest in and advertise SBCG4AP. What differentiates it from [[stunt double]] is that the email wasn't created to promote the game, and that's why the email isn't listed here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:23, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::The puppet stuff is listed under promotional material for the game, and it definitely fits that description. In other words, it wasn't created just for the heck of it; it was created to generate interest in and advertise SBCG4AP. What differentiates it from [[stunt double]] is that the email wasn't created to promote the game, and that's why the email isn't listed here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:23, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::I agree: the puppet short was created to promote the game, even if its plot isn't related to the game's.  So, it should go in the template. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:25, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::I agree: the puppet short was created to promote the game, even if its plot isn't related to the game's.  So, it should go in the template. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:25, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
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This template is getting '''''HUGE'''''. We need to do something like space it out so it's not so obnoxious, anyone agree? {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 01:43, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 
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:We could (shudder) copy what Wikipedia does for insanely large templates (sampled [[Wikipedia:Template:Tmbg|here]]) and break it up to episodes (already done) and put the episode names in a column on the left. Or we could be more selective about the articles we put on the template. Either way, I'm not entirely sure that this template really needs it. If there's a second season, that's a different matter. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 01:48, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 
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::I think if they make another season we should give it its own template. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 02:42, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 
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:::I'm for it. Let's see here...
 
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:::{| class="navbox" style="margin: 0 auto 0 auto; padding: 0.2em; background: #CFCAF0;"
 
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! style="background-color:#241C59;text-align:center;" colspan="2"| ''[[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People|<span style="color:white">Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People</span>]]''
 
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|style="background-color:#ADA8D0;text-align:center;" |'''Episode 1:<br />[[Homestar Ruiner]]'''||''Various:'' [[Snake Boxer 5]], [[Homestar Ruiner Teen Girl Squad|Teen Girl Squad]], [[Homestar Ruiner Walkthrough|Walkthrough]]<br />
 
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''[[Homestar Ruiner Responses|Responses]]:' '[[Homestar Ruiner Responses (House of Strong)|House of Strong]], [[Homestar Ruiner Responses (Marzipan's)|Marzipan's]], [[Homestar Ruiner Responses (K.o.T. Castle)|K.o.T. Castle]], [[Homestar Ruiner Responses (The Track)|The Track]], [[Homestar Ruiner Responses (The Field)|The Field]]
 
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<br />''Promotional Media:'' [[Homestar at the Track]], [[Around the Field]]
 
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:::There we go! My first publicly viewable WikiMedia table! Yay! Though I did copy and paste some of the code for the current template, it was just the CSS. --[[Special:Contributions/75.5.176.233|75.5.176.233]] 03:05, 12 December 2008 (UTC), edited again on 03:06, 12 December 2008 (UTC), and 03:08, 12 December 2008 (UTC).
 
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::::Looks good, but it would look better if you boldfaced "various", "responses", and "promotional media". {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 03:12, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 
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:::::That looked ugly (in my opinion), plus, Wikipedia does it with the example Martyo posted earlier, and we do a similar thing for the [[Template:Dangeresque|Dangeresque template]]. Oh, and allow me to correct myself: MediaWiki, not WikiMedia. Oops. --[[Special:Contributions/75.5.176.233|75.5.176.233]] 03:15, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 
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::::::Now that I think about it, this thing isn't going to be easy to manage. Its formatting makes it hard to work with, not to mention find something. --[[Special:Contributions/75.5.176.233|75.5.176.233]] 03:18, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 
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:::::::I think we should just keep it as is, as it allows easy navigation between episodes in the series, and as Annony said, we'd have to redo the current formatting on all those pages. {{User:ThePizz/sig}} 23:38, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 
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::::::::What? No, I mean the template. Its harder too figure out where you are in the code. --[[Special:Contributions/75.5.176.233|75.5.176.233]] 15:22, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 
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:::::::::Oh, I misunderstood you, I thought you were talking about the articles themselves. Anyways, I still think it should be kept as is for simplicity.{{User:ThePizz/sig}} 15:45, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 
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::::::::::It is simplistic, but for sure it takes up too much space. We need to figure out something better. --[[Special:Contributions/75.5.176.233|75.5.176.233]] 16:49, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 
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:::::::::::I think we need to have the section of which episode that certain thing applies to so we won't have this humongous template fangoriously devouring the page. This is actually ''bigger'' than some pages themselves. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 18:57, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 
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::::::::::::True, and I agree, the template is [[bedtime stories#Transcript|H-E-U-G HEUG]], and I am going to change it. [[User:Bad Bad Guy]] thank you. I am [[User:Meaty85203|Meaty85203]] 05:08, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 
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:::::::::::::Maybe, then, we should have one template to list the episodes and then have each episode have its own template? --[[Special:Contributions/69.150.85.66|69.150.85.66]] 21:17, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 
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Well, scratch that last part on my previous post (yes, as 69.150.85.66), we could use parser functions for that. However, I think it might be best to have the template cover everything as it does now. Here's what the entire navbox would look like if we went with a more horizontal layout:
 
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{| class="navbox" style="margin:0 auto; padding:0.2em; background:#CFCAF0;"
 
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! style="background-color:#241C59;text-align:center;" colspan="2" | ''[[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People|<span style="color:white;">Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People</span>]]''
 
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| style="background-color:#ADA8D0;text-align:center;" | '''Promotional Media''' ||
 
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[[Strong Bad Gameways]], [[SBCG4AP Advertisement|Advertisement]], [[SBCG4AP Gameplay Trailer|Gameplay Trailer]],  [[SBCG4AP Dev Blog|Dev Blog]], [[Workin' on the Game]], [[SBCG4AP Tutorial|Tutorial]], [[SBCG4AP Intros|Intros]], [[Behind The Bad]],<br />[[Make a Scene with Telltale: Strong Bad Edition]], [[SBCG4AP Collector's DVD]]
 
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| style="background-color:#ADA8D0;text-align:center;" |'''Episode 1:<br />[[Homestar Ruiner]]''' ||
 
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'''''Various:''''' [[Snake Boxer 5]], [[Homestar Ruiner Teen Girl Squad|Teen Girl Squad]], [[Homestar Ruiner Walkthrough|Walkthrough]]<br />
 
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'''''[[Homestar Ruiner Responses|Responses]]:''''' [[Homestar Ruiner Responses (House of Strong)|House of Strong]], [[Homestar Ruiner Responses (Marzipan's)|Marzipan's]], [[Homestar Ruiner Responses (K.o.T. Castle)|K.o.T. Castle]], [[Homestar Ruiner Responses (The Track)|The Track]], [[Homestar Ruiner Responses (The Field)|The Field]]<br />
 
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'''''Promotional Media:''''' [[Homestar at the Track]], [[Around the Field]], [[Behind The Bad Chapter 1: The New Hire]]<br />
 
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'''''Songs:''''' [[Handle My Style]], [[Fluffy Puff Translucent Dessert Related Substance|Fluffy Puff Jela-ton]], [[Showdown]]<br />
 
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| style="background-color:#ADA8D0;text-align:center;" |'''Episode 2:<br />[[Strong Badia the Free]]'''||
 
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'''''Various:''''' [[Math Kickers]], [[Strong Badia the Free Cave Girl Squad|Cave Girl Squad]], [[Strong Badia the Free Walkthrough|Walkthrough]], [[Countries in Strong Badia the Free|Countries]]<br />
 
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'''''[[Strong Badia the Free Responses|Responses]]:''''' [[Strong Badia the Free Responses (Bleak House)|Bleak House]], [[Strong Badia the Free Responses (The Field)|The Field]], [[Strong Badia the Free Responses (Homsar Reservation)|Homsar Reservation]], [[Strong Badia the Free Responses (Pompomerania)|Pompomerania]], [[Strong Badia the Free Responses (Country)|Country]], [[Strong Badia the Free Responses (Marzistar)|Marzistar]], [[Strong Badia the Free Responses (The Castle)|The Castle]]<br />
 
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'''''Promotional Media:''''' [[Strong Badia the Free Gameplay Trailer]]<br />
 
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'''''Songs:''''' [[Protest]]
 
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| style="background-color:#ADA8D0;text-align:center;" |'''Episode 3:<br />[[Baddest of the Bands]]'''||
 
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'''''Various:''''' [[Limozeen's Hot Babelien Odyssey]], [[Baddest of the Bands Teen Girl Squad Meets Limozeen|Teen Girl Squad Meets Limozeen]], [[Baddest of the Bands Walkthrough|Walkthrough]], [[Bands in Baddest of the Bands|Bands]]<br />
 
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'''''[[Baddest of the Bands Responses|Responses]]:''''' [[Baddest of the Bands Responses (House of Strong)|House of Strong]], [[Baddest of the Bands Responses (The Field)|The Field]], [[Baddest of the Bands Responses (Marzipan's)|Marzipan's]], [[Baddest of the Bands Responses (Club Technochocolate)|Club Technochocolate]], [[Baddest of the Bands Responses (The Track)|The Track]], [[Baddest of the Bands Responses (Battle of the Bands stages)|Battle of the Bands stages]]<br />
 
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'''''Promotional Media:''''' [[Baddest of the Bands Gameplay Trailer]], [[Behind The Bad Chapter 2: The Heist]] <br /> [[Baddest of the Bands Promo Spot]], [[Baddestofthebands.com]]<br />
 
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'''''Songs:''''' [[Food-Related Love]], [[Cool Tapes songs]], [[Songs from Baddest of the Bands|Other songs]]
 
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| style="background-color:#ADA8D0;text-align:center;" |'''Episode 4:<br />[[Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective|Dangeresque 3:<br />The Criminal Projective]]'''||
 
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'''''Various:''''' [[Space Circus Catastrophe]], [[Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective Walkthrough|Walkthrough]]<br />
 
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'''''[[Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective Responses|Responses]]:''''' [[Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective Responses (Smoky Office)|Smoky Office]], [[Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective Responses (Brainblow City)|Brainblow City]], [[Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective Responses (Strongborneo)|Strongborneo]], [[Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective Responses (Secret Lab)|Secret Lab]], [[Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective Responses (Catacombs)|Catacombs]], [[Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective Responses (Old Club)|Old Club]], [[Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective Responses (Cutesy's House)|Cutesy's House]],
 
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[[Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective Responses (The Sun)|The Sun]], [[Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective Responses (World Locations)|World Locations]]<br />
 
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'''''Promotional Media:''''' [[Dangeresque: Puppet Squad]], [[Dangeresque 3 Gameplay Clips]], [[Dangeresque 3 Mini-Site]]<br />
 
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'''''Songs:''''' [[Today is Alright 4 2Nite]]
 
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| style="background-color:#ADA8D0;text-align:center;" |'''Episode 5:<br />[[8-Bit is Enough]]'''||
 
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'''''Various:''''' [[Gel-Arshie's Pro Fruitboarder]], [[Redcoat Ghost Patrol]], [[Trogdor's 3D-Ungeon]], [[8-Bit Is Enough Walkthrough|Walkthrough]]<br />
 
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'''''[[8-Bit Is Enough Responses|Responses]]:''''' [[8-Bit Is Enough Responses (House of Strong)|House of Strong]], [[8-Bit Is Enough Responses (The Field)|The Field]], [[8-Bit Is Enough Responses (Crates)|Crates]], [[8-Bit Is Enough Responses (Videlectrix Mainframe)|Videlectrix Mainframe]], [[8-Bit Is Enough Responses (Halfathlon)|Halfathlon]], [[8-Bit Is Enough Responses (Gel-Arshie's Backstage)|Gel-Arshie's Backstage]], [[8-Bit Is Enough Responses (Stinkoman 20X6)|Stinkoman 20X6]], [[8-Bit Is Enough Responses (Peasantry)|Peasantry]]<br />
 
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'''''Promotional Media:''''' [[Behind The Bad Chapter 3: The Last Straw]]
 
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I decided to take on Bad Bad Guy's advice; the entire thing is a little cluttered so it helps to make things bold. I will now go on to size comparisons to see what the size differences are in a couple of browsers. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 17:18, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 
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: You made a slight mistake, which I fixed, but I admit it's easier to read. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:40, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 
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::Edit conflict'd! I took some screenshots (before you fixed my mistake, but fortunately, it did not change the size), and now I have the (unnecessarily detailed) stats! The current template is 704px by 663px (with an area of 466,752px<sup>2</sup>). This one is 841px by 499px (with an area of 419,659px<sup>2</sup>). The height difference is -164px (75.2% of the current template), while the width difference is +137px (119.46% of the current template). The area difference is -27,093px<sup>2</sup>, so that's '''10.1% less space''' than the current template (89.91% of the current template). {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 17:58, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 
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:::I do like the horizontal layout.  By far, SBCG4AP is the largest template on the site (since there are so many related links).  Also, I want to echo the suggestion above that we should consider having the option to collapse the template, like Wikipedia does.  A couple other templates ([[:Template:CheatCommandos]], [[:Template:VidelectrixGames]] and [[:Template:Limozeen]] come to mind) could also benefit from having the collapse option, especially when they get stacked on a single page. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 18:03, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 
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:::: I say we go with the one by Soiled. It is clean and well organized. It is much easier to read.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 18:08, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 
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:::::Actually, Wbwolf has a good idea. [[Wikipedia:Help:Collapsing|From what it looks like]] (briefly, I ''must'' get on to other things), we'd need to nest tables. Also, it'd be cool to get a ParserFunction in there that would auto collapse all of the <s>rows</s> nested tables besides the episode the article is related to! {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 18:21, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 
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::::::Wow, it sure has been a while since this has been discussed. Does anyone prefer a collapsible version, or does mine work? The only problem I have with mine is screen space. Contemporary monitors shouldn't have a problem, of course, but I'm considered about our 1204x768 brethren. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 21:15, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 
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Well, I put my stick in the ground and converted this navbox, along the with the ones you mentioned, wbwolf. Good choices, too, because they really needed it. I went over the other navigation templates and found them easy to follow for the most part, so I don't think any more need my advanced services, heheh. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 00:31, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
 

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