Editing Talk:myths & legends

This ones mine!!! ''{Evil laugh}'' [[User:Riley|Riley]]

I'll do the Easter Eggs. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:40, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Never mind, i'll do the next one. [[User:Riley|Riley]]

==Mentions of Sooldns==
It says, that they are mentioned, however I can't find where.
If it's the "elephant footed ghost man" I don't think it really is a mentioning of Strong Sad's sooldns. --Not Registered

==Elephantfooted Ghost man==
Is this some kind of reference that I am missing?
[[User:Lord-z|Lord-z]] 07:14, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I doubt it. Strong Bad is just pointing out the irony of "These strange beasts just aren't real" coming from a bizarre little brother who seems to have the feet (excuse me, soolnds) of an elephant and the head of a ghost. Or a Dairy Queen soft-serve cone. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 13:54, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

==Mile==
I suppose that the "British distance runner" sort of clears up the mini-STUFF-controversy over "mile" a while back? [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 20:41, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:That's what I thought of when I saw it too.  It's not completely overt, though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:36, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::Watching it again I realize it's not as blatant as I thought. I thought everything in the clouds was some sort of inside reference to something prior (when I was only half-paying attention to the scene), but since I can't place some of them to something else, I suppose the runner wasn't referencing anything either. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 03:59, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:what the what what??? btw heres a pic of roger bannister: http://www2.iaaf.org/Multimedia/Photo/AthletesLegends/Men/RogerBannister_54.jpg  {{User:Csours/sig}} 02:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== cool ==

this almost made up for the crappyness of [[500 the Cheats]] --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 20:45, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:You need to watch over and over to really appreciate it. It's really a cute short. Just candy for some of us. But, suit yourself. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:No, it's really terrible, I was extremly dissapointed, come on, seriously, it's terrible, but then theirs the fact that unless TBC <b>TRY</b> to make it bad, it really can't be, but anything else is always of overall "ok" standard, but for the H*R standard, its terrilbe.

:It's got a catchy tune. It's just a little bit of candy that they gave us before the Strong Bad Email. Appreciate that TBC gave you anything at all. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:27, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::I'd just like to reiterate that this is more the kind of topic for the forum, not for a Talk page. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:08, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Interesting ==

Bubs' shirt reads: "My Baby, Got Stole... By the bear holding A Shark"... a wiki reference? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:09, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
: Uh, how? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:38, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
: I would say it's a reference to the line "A Dingo Took My Baby!" This was said in the film [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094924/ "A Cry in the Dark"] which was based on the case of Azaria Chamberlain, an Australian child whose parents claimed was taken by dingos in the night. This line has been referenced a lot, specifically in sitcoms (e.g. Seinfeld). [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00002E22E/002-0997424-1932055?v=glance&n=130 Amazon.com says:]'"The dingo took my baby" remains a derisive expression in the Australian lexicon.' [[User:Spiderbaby|Spiderbaby]] 23:58, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::And the Videlectrix game [[King Dingo]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::If anybody wants to add this to the article, the best source to link to would be the Wikipedia article: [[Wikipedia:Azaria Chamberlain disappearance|Azaria Chamberlain disappearance]]. <small>&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]]</small> 00:11, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
: Hmm, no. It's referencing how Strong Bad describes "evidence of destroyed crops, stolen babies, and family bike-rides" and the corny tourist attraction T-shirts that always seem to irreverantly mention some legend. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 01:09, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::Exactly - Qermaq is absolutely right, and I think the reference on the article to the dingo-baby case is a huge stretch.  Strong Bad merely mentions earlier in the email that "babies were stolen."  I remember the baby-case, but this has nothing to do with it, and everything to do with Strong Bad's passing line. [[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 16:17, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Certainly the t-shirt is simply playing off of Strong Bad's line, but that doesn't mean the line couldn't be a reference to Azaria Chamberlain. I would readily agree that it's too vague, if it weren't for the fact that TBC already made a fairly clear reference to the incident with [[King Dingo]]. On the other hand, it could just as easily refer to old European folk tales about goblins stealing babies, since those are also creatures of myth & legend while dingos are not. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:18, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::::I may be mistaken, but I don't think that just because a bit resembles something in the real world it's definitely a reference to it. I mean, if some story of a guy shooting his computer was found, would we add that as a reference to [[virus]]? I don't think so. I think it's doubtful TBC were thinking of Australian dingo babynappers when they wrote the joke. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 23:27, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::So I guess this reference is going to be left up, in spite of the protests?  Qermaq and I have argued (quite reasonably) that this 'real-world' reference is a huge stretch.  The source of the saying on the t-shirt is obviously the line Strong Bad said earlier in the email.  Further, I think that even if you argued that the line Strong Bad says is a reference to the dingo-baby case, you'd be stretching it.  TheNicestGuy even made an argument in our favor - this was a reference to the legends in fairy-tales of babies being carried off by goblins, et al.  Qermaq has made some excellent points - shall we vote? [[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 16:00, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I disagree.  TBC have referenced this once before.  And even if Bubs' shirt is refering to Strong Bad's shirt, it does not invalidate this fact.  I suppose that this shall be taken to STUFF. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 16:04, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
::::[[Template:STUFF/myths & legends|STUFF]]'d it is. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 21:07, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

==Good Work==

At pretty much 50 minutes from start to finish, that's one speedy article creation. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:21, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:On a semi-related note: that'll look interesting on the statistics page... a (hopefully) brief trend where the Lappy emails got shorter and shorter. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:24, 13 February 2006 (UTC)


== SG:C2C Reference ==

Wether it is intended to or not, the Bear/Shark is a reference to Space Ghost: Coast 2 Coast episode "Kentucky Nightmare" where SpaceGhost shows off a spoof "nature" show about bears and sharks being "Nature's Best Friends".  Space Ghost had made the documentary for public television, but they rejected it on the account of it being grossly inaccurate. [[User:SargeAbernathy|SargeAbernathy]] 21:33, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:The Bear Shark's been around for a long time. Unless that SG:C3C episode came out more than 3 years ago, it's a reverse reference. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:41, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::The episode came out 2001 ... That's about 5 years ago. [[User:SargeAbernathy|SargeAbernathy]] 21:49, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::: Even then, it'd be better noted in [[date]] or [[Bear-Shark]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:50, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:::: Done and Done. I made a section in [[Bear-Shark]] about possible references. [[User:SargeAbernathy|SargeAbernathy]] 22:10, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== SBemail police ==

Is it worth mentioning that this seems to be the end of Strong Sad's SBemail police spree?-The 4rticle B4NDIT
:Nah, not really. The "Sbemail Police" was kind of a gag just for the last email. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:'''(Edit Conflict)''' I don't think so.  It'd be notable if the spree continued, but I think it's best left as-is. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:10, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::"I'm sure it's just a weather balloon or a foreign exchange student. These strange beasts just aren't real!"
::Heck, if they do something like that involving Strong Sad next week too, I say it could be counted as still on. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:27, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Annoying TV Show SFX ==

Not sure what the writer meant with the SFX and the Geddup Noise having the same "notes". You'd be hard pressed to call Geddy a musical note. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 23:21, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:It was nonsense, so I removed it. I also removed the claim that it was the same sound effect used when [[Taranchula]] was first mentioned, in [[band names]]. That was definitely an amplified string instrument tuned extremely low (or pitch-shifted), with a chorus effect. The myths & legends sound is percussion-based, more like a marimba riff with heavy reverb and echo. By that token, if there is an existing sound effect upon which this one is based, it would most likely be the signature "dong-dong" of the Law & Order series, both from the sound itself, and from its ridiculous overuse throughout the show. The latter argument applies even more to the signature "whoosh" of Homicide: Life on the Street. However, since neither of these shows explores myths or legends, I think a Reference would be tenuous at best. Can anyone think of a myth/legend show that has a similarly annoying signature sound effect? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:39, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bear Shark Filmography ==

Hi, since this page is being worked on and had a high profile at the time, I wanted your guys' opinions on the post I made [[Talk:Bear-Shark#Filmography.3F|here]].  Any input would be most welcomed. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:46, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Many Mins? ==

Would "Very Scary Monstermin" be a reference to "Santamin", or are the two perhaps an inside joke? [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

: I thought that too. And it's only Homestar who ever says "sanataman" or "monsterman" so it could be a quirk of his.

== Mythbusters? ==

Re: comment "The show Strong Bad mentions at the begining of the email is a reference to the The Discovery Channel's popular show, Mythbusters" - no. It's more like "In Search Of..." or any number of shows exploring strange phenomena. Mythbusters is not at all like SB's show.

Agreement/disagreement? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 01:41, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I kinda agree... from what I remember, Mythbusters tries to disprove urban legends, and then if it can't, it decrees them plausible. In Search Of seems to be more like SB's show.

: I'm going to go ahead and balleet it. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 04:30, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I think this is more of a reference to the show, Truth or Scare.[[User:The Noid|The Noid]] 13:14, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Whoa, hold on a sec, guys.  I think the Mythbusters reference has some credence at the moment - have you guys seen their current line of ads for the show?  They feature a sasquatch out in the woods talking to the camera about how afraid he is that the Mythbusters will eventually discover him.  Complete with cheesy French or Russian accent (I can't tell).  While it's not a direct reference, I think some mention might be due. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:53, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I second that, the whole thing, down to the Trogdor mini-ad is a spoof of the Discovery channel's latest antics, among the most popular, if not the most popular, of which is Mythbusters. The show has also been using historians to explain the origins of legends. Even though the format of "their show" is quite different, the clues are still there. *play X-files theme* --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:13, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

::Right, but the tone of the program is totally different. SB is clearly going for "In Search Of...". While the name of the programs share the word "myth", one sets out to prove or disprove a myth (Mythbusters) while this one (MM or LL?) simply lays out evidence to lead the viewer. Would you ever see blurry photographic evidence on Mythbusters? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 17:55, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bear in tennis shoes? ==

Someone referred to the bear with blue soles on his feet - did anyone else see that as a reference to the old campfire song about the bear in tennis shoes? If so, is it worth mentioning?--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 02:48, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

: My answer: What campfire song? never heard of it. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 03:07, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I highly doubt it. The color scheme of the shoes was obviously intended to imply that it was Homestar himself posing as the Bear-Shark. A double meaning seems unlikely. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I looked at the shoes, and I didn't see white sneakers with blue soles. It looked more like little gray lines. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:15, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

::The lyrics are here: [http://www.backyardgardener.com/loowit/song/song115.html] and a midi for the tune can be heard here: [http://www.christysclipart.com/campmidi/princesspat%5B1%5D.mid].--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 18:53, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

== Intro song ==

I get the feeling Mr. Bad goes out of his way to come up with intro songs that ''feel'' like they're parodies of something but actually are not. I certainly can't place this one, but searching the Web for similar lyrics turned up "Walkin' With a Mountain" by Mott the Hoople:<br />
''And if I had a choice in life''<br />
''I'd take that mountain for my wife''<br />
Anyone know what this song sounds like? I'm not hopeful. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:04, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Morgan Freeman ==

Could this be a reference to Half-Life? --[[User:Cyberdemon|Cyberdemon]] 4:08, 14 Feb 2006
:No. The protagonist of [[Wikipedia:Half-Life|Half-Life]] is named ''Gordon'' Freeman. [http://imdb.com/name/nm0000151/ Morgan Freeman] is the co-star (with Tim Robbins) of The Shawshank Redemption. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:20, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Biscuit-Dough Hands Man ==

As I'm new, I'll pose this as a question. Why was the item "Biscuitdoughhandsman is a reference to "[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]." Bubs drew him from the [[King of Town]]'s description of the criminal who stole his crown, who was actually Strong Bad." removed? It is true. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 03:57, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

: Well, I see it's back. Where do I learn a bit more about what is in and what is out? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 04:00, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:I'm going to guess that it was because [[Biscuit Dough Hands Man]] (note the "proper" spelling, although Strong Bad fudges it in this email) has appeared several times and has his own filmography. That said, the removal was over-hasty, because nowhere else in the article is this pointed out. While his origins don't necessarily need to be explained here, he at least needs to be mentioned and linked as an Inside Reference. He's neither present enough to be part of the Cast, nor obvious enough to be glossed over.

:As for where to learn about this sort of thing, check out [[HRWiki:Standards]]. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 04:10, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

::I removed it since he's linked above, in Remarks, and because it would be kind of unusual to provide a fun fact on a character saying "This is where this character was first introduced, and what happened in that 'toon," when a link to its page would suffice (imagine what it would be like if we did that for everything!). I'd still prefer to remove it, but I'll give it some time for debate first now that it's been reinstated and challenged. Specifically, the second sentence seems unrelated to ''this'' email, and the first sentence simply gives his origin; the only information that we really need here is that he ''is'' a pseudocharacter who has a page. &mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:50, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm the one who took it down in the first place. I took it down because the fact stated that his name appearing was a ''reference'' to Sb's in Jail Toon, but technically, it's not. I vote no. {{User:Salty/sig}} 13:20, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I have an idea. We can take down the fun fact about Biscuit Dough Hands Man, and we can link to him in the Easter eggs section! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:23, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::How about simply mentioning where this "character" first appeared and letting that be it?  We do have other references (like the Mighty Warrior from TGS) to places where infrequent characters first appeared. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:50, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Gentlemen, gentlemen. He ''is'' linked, in Remarks; and the difference between him and the Mighty Warrior is that the latter has only appeared in one place before. If The Denzel showed up again, we'd probably mention [[bedtime story]]. &mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:15, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Shark-Tooth Bubs? ==

Likely a stretch...but does Bubs holding a shark-tooth necklace obliquely reference to the [[Shark-Tooth Bubs]] doll?  That was one of the first things that came to mind when he was selling the necklaces at the stand. -- [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 11:01, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:Well, while it ''is'' the first thing that comes to mind, they probably have no relation whatsoever. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 12:29, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:i dunno, but that is frikken funny... i hadnt seen that b4. {{User:Csours/sig}} 15:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bear vs. Shark? ==

Could the whole Bear holding a Shark thing poosibly be a reference to the indie band Bear Vs. Shark?

:Doubt it. They existed from 2003 to 2005 and were based in MI. What are the odds? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 17:58, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:The Real-World References for [[date]] mentions a book called ''Bear v. Shark''. It was published in 2001, so it's possible that the book inspired both the band and the counter-measure separately. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:17, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Pom Pom dog? ==

Does Homestar saying Pom Pom is his dog refwerence to Pom Pom's Character Page, and/or Biz Cas Fri? "My dog! My main man! My ace in the Hole!" Please tell me whatcha' think. Also, could  Pom Pom "the dog" growling and pooping everywhere refer to how animals act different when something strange is heading their way? Your <s>onion</s> opinion is needed. {{User:Homfrog/sig}} 21:43, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:"My dog Pom Pom" as a typical Homestar mangling of his own tendency to call everyone and everything, specifically including Pom Pom, his "dawg"? Sounds plausible to me. I would not call it obvious enough that it couldn't be unintentional, but probably worth mentioning.

:Growling and pooping? Well, um, yeah. That was kind of the whole point. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 02:32, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
i thought of the Carve-nival first thing. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:09, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bear v. Radiohead ==

The shot glasses look like the Radiohead 'Kid A' logo.

There's a picture of it up at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bear20Big.gif .

:Yes they do, but only because they're both fairly primitive drawings of bears. Nothing compelling to connect them, I think. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 02:32, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

:They do look similar - with TBC having many references to indie, rock and metal music in their cartoons i think it's reasonable to assume this is a nod to radiohead.

::Reasonable? I disagree. The Bearshark looks nothing like that logo, only that they're both bears and have sharp teeth. It's a stretch of Mr Fantastic levels. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 12:44, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

== Homes with Rollercoasters in them Network ==

Currently the real world reference to this show includes home improvement shows like Monster House.  However this could just as easily be a reference to shows like MTV Cribs which feature celebtrities and their outreageous homes.

== Cornsistency ==
Maybe it's just me, but I think there should be some consistency in the transcript for A/The/the Mighty Warrior. The cast list says "A", as does his bio, but the Easter egg and Inside Reference says the/The. My personal feeling is "A" works best, with a link to the definite article page, but I don't want to take that initiative without others' opinions. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 05:24, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
:Sustained! (doink doink doink) More accurately, I think the Inside Reference one should change to "A", but I'm cool with the Easter Egg one in context (it lists the character in the dialogue line as "A MIGHTY WARRIOR," but speaks of "a frame of the Mighty Warrior..." To me that's okay. &mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:26, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
::lol, the Easter Egg transcript is something I added after posting my original comment. Now the next step should be making a page [[Indefinite Article]], redirecting it to [[Definite Article]], and adding A Mighty Warrior to the page. Just a thought. (I'd do it myself, but I hate taking initiative and, well, I'm really tired right now.) [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 06:51, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Star Wars reference ==

Does anyone else think that one of Strong Bab's fence drawings looks suspiciously similar to one of those Star Wars starfighters, or whatever they're called? I'm not a huge Star Wars fan, so I can't name the exact one, but I'm almost completely sure I've seen something like that in a Star Wars movie. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:47, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
:Totally. It's called a TIE fighter, and it's already mentioned in Real-World References. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 13:55, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

== Auntie Ice Cream ==
I compared Aunt Gert to the ice cream snack. Both are brown. The ice cream has dark brown eyes, Gert has black and white eyes. The top of the ice cream is whitish-gray, the top of Gert is blue. In other words, are thay really all that similar? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 03:30, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
:This is one of the few times I didn't bother to validate the fact before editing it.  Probably should. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 07:10, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
::This was STUFFed and then rv'ed by another user. Reason? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:06, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I don't know. Unless anyone objects, I'll reSTUFF it. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 20:12, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
::::If I knew how, I'd have done it myself. Thanks. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:14, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::[[User:The thing|The thing]] was the one who reverted it, so you might ask him. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::I don't really care, so long as it's fixed.  {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:19, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

== Homes with monorails in them... ==

I think there was an episode of Ripley's Believe it or Not where they showed a guy that had built a functioning monorail that circled his backyard. That's the first thing that came to my mind when SB said "Homes with Rollercoasters in Them Network". Anyone else remember that or think it might be worth a reference? {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 07:41, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

:The New York New York casino in Las Vegas has a roller coaster inside. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 17:26, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

::A casino isn't a home, though. At least it shouldn't be. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 17:31, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

== Roller Coaster two words comment ==

Take a peek at the comment on the comment at the end of Goofs. Should it look like that?

*I had changed it to
**look like this

but it was reverted to the dotted box form. Julst looks ugly. Is that standard? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:08, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

:It's a moot point, since the item shouldn't have been there in the first place.  I've removed it.&nbsp;-- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:13, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Let's assume it was a valid comment on comment. Which format is correct? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:15, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

== Lacker/Lacquer ==

This email includes another instance of Coach Z saying "lacker/lacquer room". People will no doubt say it's a coincidence, what with Coach Z's standard accent and all, but when I first heard it the very first thing that came to mind was the [[part-time job]] audio commentary. I think TBC wanted to use that phrase again, but seeing as how he doesn't make a reference to lacquer or microwaves or anything, it probably doesn't work as a significant reference. It's just the phrase again. So I just thought I'd mention it on the Talk page rather than attempting to use it as an actual Fun Fact. It's no big deal. -Guest

== Aquabats ==

I had suggested a Fun Fact recently indicating the title "Myths and Legends" as a reference to The Aquabats. However, this was removed shortly. Here's a reference though: [http://theaquabats.com/myths/index2.html See for yourself.] H*R isn't referencing the album title, which is "Myths, Legends, and Other Amazing Adventures", but rather the term "Myths and Legends", which appears repeatedly on the Aquabats site. Notice the page title and the side menu. -Guest
:However, there's no clear link between this band and the sbemail. For it to be a reference, it'd need to be something TBC know about, not some obscure west-coast band. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:33, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
::Oh, okay. They're known pretty well in various circles, so I was just very familiar with the term "myths and legends" associated with the Aquabats. But if they're not a likely candidate for a reference, that's okay.
:::The term "Myths and Legends" applies to lots of things, not just to rock bands, and this email as a whole is clearly a reference to urban legends like Bigfoot. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:38, 20 February 2006 (UTC) (sign your posts)
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 This ones mine!!! ''{Evil laugh}'' [[User:Riley|Riley]]
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 ::The episode came out 2001 ... That's about 5 years ago. [[User:SargeAbernathy|SargeAbernathy]] 21:49, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
-::: Even then, it'd be better noted in [[date]] or [[Bear holding a Shark|Bear-Shark]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:50, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
+::: Even then, it'd be better noted in [[date]] or [[Bear-Shark]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:50, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
-:::: Done and Done. I made a section in [[Bear holding a Shark|Bear-Shark]] about possible references. [[User:SargeAbernathy|SargeAbernathy]] 22:10, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
+:::: Done and Done. I made a section in [[Bear-Shark]] about possible references. [[User:SargeAbernathy|SargeAbernathy]] 22:10, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
 == SBemail police ==
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 ::The lyrics are here: [http://www.backyardgardener.com/loowit/song/song115.html] and a midi for the tune can be heard here: [http://www.christysclipart.com/campmidi/princesspat%5B1%5D.mid].--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 18:53, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
-the bear obviously has Homestar Runner feet- white with blue soles.  It seemed like it was meant to be Homestar in a bear suit
 == Intro song ==
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 == Biscuit-Dough Hands Man ==
-As I'm new, I'll pose this as a question. Why was the item "Biscuitdoughhandsman is a reference to "[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]." Bubs drew him from the [[The King of Town|King of Town]]'s description of the criminal who stole his crown, who was actually Strong Bad." removed? It is true. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 03:57, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
+As I'm new, I'll pose this as a question. Why was the item "Biscuitdoughhandsman is a reference to "[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]." Bubs drew him from the [[King of Town]]'s description of the criminal who stole his crown, who was actually Strong Bad." removed? It is true. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 03:57, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
 : Well, I see it's back. Where do I learn a bit more about what is in and what is out? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 04:00, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
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 :Sustained! (doink doink doink) More accurately, I think the Inside Reference one should change to "A", but I'm cool with the Easter Egg one in context (it lists the character in the dialogue line as "A MIGHTY WARRIOR," but speaks of "a frame of the Mighty Warrior..." To me that's okay. &mdash;[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:26, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
 ::lol, the Easter Egg transcript is something I added after posting my original comment. Now the next step should be making a page [[Indefinite Article]], redirecting it to [[Definite Article]], and adding A Mighty Warrior to the page. Just a thought. (I'd do it myself, but I hate taking initiative and, well, I'm really tired right now.) [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 06:51, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
-:I'll happily agree that "A Mighty Warrior" can be treated as his name, more or less, but he does not belong on the (hopefully soon to be renamed) Definite Article page. Not yet, anyway. Let me be clear on what Spell4yr implied: "Definite article", by definition, is the word ''the'', not ''a'' or ''an'', which are indefinite articles. That's why the page will get renamed. But furthermore, it's been overhauled to list only those names where an article has been included against the rules of grammar. A Mighty Warrior doesn't quite qualify, but keep your eye on him. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:01, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
 == Star Wars reference ==
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 ::Oh, okay. They're known pretty well in various circles, so I was just very familiar with the term "myths and legends" associated with the Aquabats. But if they're not a likely candidate for a reference, that's okay.
 :::The term "Myths and Legends" applies to lots of things, not just to rock bands, and this email as a whole is clearly a reference to urban legends like Bigfoot. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:38, 20 February 2006 (UTC) (sign your posts)
-== Closed STUFF ==
-{{stuffcloseddecline}}
-=== STUFF is no place for a Corn Army! ===
-{{stufffact|"Cornwall of the Corn Army" is a reference to "Stonewall" Jackson, the famous Confederate general during the American Civil War.}}
-{{stuffverdict|20:20, 16 April 2006 (UTC)|21:07, 23 April 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|20|1|myths & legends}}
-{{stuffcloseddecline}}
-=== More Corny STUFF ===
-{{stufffact|"Cornwall of the Corn Army" may be a reference to an episode of [[Wikipedia:The Tick|The Tick]], in which the villain El Seed transforms a field of corn into a corn army.}}
-{{stuffverdict|20:20, 16 April 2006 (UTC)|21:07, 23 April 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|16|3|myths & legends}}
-{{stuffclosedaccept}}
-=== A dingo took my baby! ===
-{{stufffact|Strong Bad's remark about babies getting stolen, and the "My Baby Got Stole" T-shirt in Bubs's Concession Stand, are possible references to the [[Wikipedia:Azaria Chamberlain disappearance|Azaria Chamberlain disappearance]] in Australia in 1980 (of "a dingo took my baby" fame).}}
-{{stuffverdict|21:02, 18 February 2006 (UTC)|19:54, 5 March 2006 (UTC)|accepted|24|20|myths & legends}}
-{{stuffclosedaccept}}
-=== Shorty ===
-{{stufffact|This is the shortest Lappy email to date, at 2:54.}}
-{{stuffverdict|21:49, 13 February 2006 (UTC)|06:14, 1 March 2006 (UTC)|accepted|34|21|myths & legends}}
-{{stuffcloseddecline}}
-=== Haggling over Aunt Gert ===
-{{stufffact|The bear-shark ice cream bar bears a resemblance to the Aunt Gert Doll seen in garage sale.}}
-{{stuffverdict|17:32, 18 February 2006 (UTC)|14:13, 22 February 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|22|3|myths & legends}}
-{{stuffcloseddecline}}
-=== 118n ===
-{{stufffact|"118n" in the star sky scene can be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Internationalization and localization|i18n]], a computer slang word for internationalization.}}
-{{stuffverdict|04:30, 14 February 2006 (UTC)|14:13, 22 February 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|28|5|myths & legends}}
-== Of Old - Above ==
-Do people generally go back and listen before they revert transcript changes? Or just revert because it must be right? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:02, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
-== Try wet cod! ==
-The fish wearing a 'fro wig first appeared in an easter egg in [[boring_(really)]]. Minus the actual 'fro wig, but the fish are otherwise identical.
-:They look somewhat similar, but they certainly aren't identical. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 13:01, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
-== [[Soolnds]] ==
-The "soolnds" reference was (rightfully) removed, but it sets you to thinking. What IS a "soolnds" reference? How many of the other references must be deleted in the process? This requires discussion, which should take place [[Talk:Soolnds|elsewhere]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:44, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
-== The Biscuitdoughhandsman Prophecies? ==
-Hey juys,
-Am I the only one who is constantly reminded of the whole Mothman thing (specifically the film "The Mothman Prophecies") whenever I hear the words "the Biscuitdoughhandsman conspiracy?" Am I insane, or is that supposed to be a Mothman ref?--[[User:71.131.30.63|71.131.30.63]] 17:17, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
-:Maybe if it was prophecy and not conspiracy. I don't think there's really a ref when you change both words... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
-::Even in that case (Biscuitdoughhandsman prophecy) I'd be skeptical, as there are a great many prophecies in the world. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:35, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
-== repeated noise? ==
-Did anyone else notice that there was a noise repeated in this email a few times that was also used when Strong Bad was opening Strong Mad's closest in [[bottom 10]]?
-:Any recurring sound would go on the [[Sound Effects]] page. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:05, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
-== Dingos, babys, and other fun ==
-[http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=17764953 This NPR story] (3:38) mentions dingos eating babies as if the concept were mere common parlance. Not certain it firms anything up or shakes anything down. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:02, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
-== Nottruities? ==
-I've always heard "'''non'''truities" (and of course the accompanying "nontruest") {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:37, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
-:Just watched it again, it IS "'''not'''". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:45, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
-==Lacker room or Macaroon?==
-Personally I'm pretty sure he is referring to macaroons, which is a cookie (re: biscuit), and not a "lacker" room, which despite his inability to properly pronounce words, is not as likely in the context. [[User:AllStarZ|AllStarZ]] 07:14, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
-:Because finding a hand in a cookie is so much more likely than in a locker room Coach Z routinely visits. Also, the DVD commentary pretty much confirms it as "lacker room". Several times. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 07:15, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
-::Because he is called "Biscuitdoughhandsman". And he holds up a biscuit that has a similarity to a biscuit called a macaroon. [[User:AllStarZ|AllStarZ]] 07:23, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
-:::Macaroons look nothing like that, and are not biscuits. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 07:24, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
-::::Its a cartoon. Alot of things don't look like their real life counterparts. Also they may be referring to French macaroons, which do incidentally look like cylindrical cakes rather than little puffy cakes.[[User:AllStarZ|AllStarZ]] 07:45, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
-:::::There is some similarity in appearance between a macaroon and a biscuit.  Having acknowledged that, here is what we have for context: The Easter egg begins by clicking on the name "Biscuitdoughhandsman", a character depicted (not surprisingly) with biscuits (not macaroons) for hands.  Coach Z raises an object while saying "''this'' severed hand", so the object is much more likely to actually be what he thinks is a severed hand.  If he was saying he found a severed hand in the supposed macaroon, it would make more sense for him to wait to raise the so-called macaroon until he began saying "the macaroon".  Also, if the severed hand is supposed to be INSIDE the supposed macaroon, why do we not SEE a hand in the so-called macaroon?  Another subtle piece of context is the word "the".  In the HR universe, "''the'' locker room" is much more likely than "''the'' macaroon".. is it not?  And as already pointed out, in DVD commentary (specifically, [[part-time job#Commentary Transcript|this one]]), Coach Z talks at length about lacquer rooms which clearly stems from him talking about his locker room.  Have I beaten this to death, yet?  =]  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 10:59, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
-::::::Heck, even the pronunciation isn't consistent with your claim. Coach Z regularly mispronounces words, but he rarely if ever places the stress on the wrong syllable. "Macaroon's" stress is on the "roon"; "locker room's" stress - and Coach Z's - is on the "lock" (well, "lack" in this case, but you know what I mean). Sorry, but there's no reason to assume that he's talking about macaroons and every reason to assume he's not. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:39, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
-==Fuzzy Evidence==
-That bear holding a shark walking around sure has a familiar walk... --{{User:Cy4nIsN0tB1u3/sig}} 16:11, 23 October 2022 (UTC)