Editing Talk:looking old

==SB's head==
Strong Bad's head is a lightbulb! A trapezoidal lightbulb! --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 11:41, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, at least we know what his heads shape is.--[[User:Eddy king|Eddy king]] 15:55, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

(1) This may reveal the shape of his skull, sure, but that's hardly a surprise. (2) It is a cartoon, and cartoon physics may apply here - which is to say it may not recur or might even be freely contradicted down the road. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:26, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

== Did ya read-? ==

Is it "Did ya read- Dear Strong Bad," or "Dijjery Dear Strong Bad,"? I hear "Dijjery". --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 11:56, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:I'm not certain... my first guess was the first half of "didjeridu" but I thought that would just be silly... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:02, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::Or the first half [[Rejected Characters#Dijjery-Doo|of that one rejected character]]. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 12:04, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:::I dunno, but I interpreted it as "did you read." &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:33, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::::I thought of the didgeridoo as well when I saw it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:00, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
I very heard dijjery. It has to be dijjery. {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:53, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
:Listening to it again, I agree with dijjery. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:51, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

== Wave Effect ==

I noticed that during the Cheat's "Youth Through Editing" remix of the intro, clicking on the Lappy's screen will still cause the usual distortion effect. {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 15:25, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, and it suffered the same results as in [[Sick Day]]. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 16:19, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::I just thought it would be worth mentioning, considering the wierd camera angles in the sequence. {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 16:23, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

==Marzipans line==
There is no doubt in my mind that that line thats in the transcript is incorrect. We're is a possible word, but Ditty sound nothing like the mystery confusing word. For a start, the word seems to start with a B. For all we know, she could be speaking in a forign language. (Make sense with the kosher tea)Its at times like this that I wish TBC had a way of answering our questions. --[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 15:38, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

:That was my last guess. I don't even know what the line is. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 16:07, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::It sounded to me like "Word, booty." But, uh, that's just me. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 16:11, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:::I only thought it up when doing all the [[Subtitles:sbemail164/en|subtitles]] for this. So I will change it accordingly if it does get changed here and a consensus is reached or something. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 16:20, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::::I definitely hear "word booty" but I haven't a clue what that means. Then again, I'm older than Strong Bad. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:35, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::I hear "''{something}'' duty", which makes a bit of sense in context. Would help if I could make out the "Something." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:45, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::At first I thought she was saying something along the lines of "Word, dudey".  But after listening again, I agree it's "''{something}'' duty";  that would make more sense than my inital thought.  It almost sounds like "We're duty", but I have no clue what that means. {{User:Garnet Jell-o/sig}} 18:37, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::I'm with Qermaq and TSSG3 on this.  Word Booty (maybe a reference to why he's obligated to have her there and listen?) - {{User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C/Sig}} 21:16, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I distinctly hear "Word, booty!" --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:55, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
: I agree Gerkuman, the second word has a "B" at the beginning and sounds like "Booty" The first sounds close to "weird" or "word." My guess is it is a phrase in another language and just for the fun of it, I went to Babelfish and put in "Werd Boote" and it translated from German to English as "Become Boats." Though I realize the W would have a V sound if said properly. The first word sounds something like "whered." --Shadow

Have we reached a consensus or something on "booty"? 'Cause I'm gonna change it on the subtitles now. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 03:27, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

No answer eh? Well, let's keep it at "Word Booty" and stay there. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 13:41, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

"Booty" doesn't sound like something Marzipan would say. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:01, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

:She might, if you think more like a pirate rather than a teenage boy...{{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:06, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

:: I thought it was "Word, booty" too.  Maybe she's just trying way, way too hard to be hip and young and cool?  Kind of like.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_Up 's mention of "Word Up! (Slang), A slang phrase, usually an exclamation or interjection" combined with "booty".. --[[User:AshyRaccoon|AshyRaccoon]] 23:10, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Okay, this seems to be a problem. Any more ideas? --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 03:36, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

:I originally thought it was "We're ditty". It evolved to the probable speculation of "Word booty". And now you're telling me there is something else? Man, keeping this article consistent is frustrating. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 03:43, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
::I would definitely go with "Word Booty", with a side of mixed meteors.
:::Argument over! Thank God for Quote of the Week. It is now ''confirmed'' as "Word booty!" --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 00:42, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

===In other news...===
marzi's background music. is it matt or mike saying 'dup-do-dow' or 'factored out'? {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:03, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

:Uh yeah. I didn't subtitle that because I didn't know. Does anyone know? --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 14:06, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
:: We finally know!! IT IS "WORD BOOTY". REPEAT: IT IS "WORD BOOTY". The QotW says so!! -{{User:WeirdAl/sig}} 21:01, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay, now that we have reached a consensus on Word Booty, can someone archive this out? --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 23:52, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
:No need to archive this, it'll be here forever and ever and ever times <big>&infin;</big> {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 23:57, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

== Estimated ages? ==

Strong Bad says "Oh, yeah. I feel at least 10 years younger! Time to go relate with some 18-24 year olds!" This brings up two ideas. He goes to see Strong Sad, so that leads me to believe that Strong Sad is 18-24. Also, if Strong Bad wants to relate to people around 10 years younger than his real age, that could mean he's 28-34 years old.

:The thing is, your theory i'ds contradicted by 'The Secrets I Keep'. In that they are around the same age [[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 17:05, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

::Also, why would he choose Strong Sad to relate to? That angle doesn't make sense. But you'll note that Matt is 30 and Mike is 33 - that's ''their'' age, no? One could assume (if one was prone to speculation) that Strong Bad is about their age. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:40, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

:::I see nothing contradictory in 'The Secrets That I Keep'. All it shows is what went on in their childhood, and it has no reference to ages whatsoever.

::::Still, this may give an age range for Strong Bad, but it offers nothing useful toward determining Strong Sad's age. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:15, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

:::::I think the comment about relating to 18-24 yr olds is based on that being considered the key demographic for those who specialize in "edgy humor."  So I really don't think that it can in anyway be seen as a way to estimate Strong Bad's age (there have been plenty of people of all ages who have tried to appeal to this demographic, often by changing their appearence), as for why he picks Strong Sad???? That has me baffled too, unless you want to take into account that Strong Sad listens to college radio and '''may''' be of that age group (although I think we're getting really speculative here, well beyond encyclopedic bounds.)- {{User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C/Sig}} 19:28, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

::::::Or he could be joking or wrong. He's not the sharpest fork in the shead you know. He makes many mistakes and we know how bad he is when it comes to technoligy. Though I'm only saying this becaus I'm against Srong bad being older than me. [[User Yo yo mom|Yo yo mom]]

:::::::No, I think that the first statement seems about right. Maybe SS is the youngest (main) character (Appart from The Cheat, maybe), and so that's why SB talked to him? I reckon that with all this evidence, the age ranges may be true. Perhaps it could be written somewhere as "It is suggested that..."? You know, like the left-hand, right-hand, and ambidextrous info. (InvaderJem)
:::::::Yeah, I agree that TBC chose Strong Sad because he is the only character where we know his relative age is young.  From the original book and other times, Homestar (though childish) is the same age as SB, Strong Mad is older than Strong Bad, and Coach Z may or may not be older than other characters, as he "coaches" them sometimes.  You can go on and on, but Strong Sad is the character that we know is younger than most of the others or all of the others.  (The Cheat can't be used, because he's Strong Bad's "pet," and helped with the surgery, so is already there in the cartoon.)

== L'Chaim ==


Hey there Elcoolio, I wanted to ask you about L'Chaim as is pertains to this article.  As I have heard it pronounce L'Chaim in hebrew is a three syllibol phrase (lo-high-em) whereas chai in english is one syllibol (ch-i).  Isn't this just a coincidence in spelling? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:41, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:''{What is written here is not from the perspective of someone who deeply studied the language, just of someone speaking it. Please read with it as such}'' Well, I'm not going to meddle in the affairs of Wikipedia, but I would have spelled "Lekhaim" (as I like to differentiate between the English or Hindi sound from the Hebrew one, but that would have ruined the joke). You can pronounce it le-kha-yim, or le-kha-im, but not "lo-high-em" or anything like that, unless you want to sound like a heavy-accented tourist. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:52, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::but I am a heavily accented tourist. I know how to make that scratchy k sound in le-kha-im, I just don't know what that sound is called or how to write it. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:54, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:::The Hebrew letter for the sound is [[Wikipedia:Heth (letter)|Khet]] and the sound is called [[Wikipedia:Voiceless uvular fricative|Voiceless uvular fricative]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:06, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:::In addition to what E.L. Cool said, it's most commonly written in english as "ch", but it can also be shown as "Ḥ". As Roz analogizes in [[Wikipedia:Meet the Fockers|Meet the Fockers]], "it's like you've got popcorn stuck in your throat". If you wanted to hear it said or where you place your tongue when you say it, I'm sure that could be arranged. &mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:24, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::::The consonant in question has the tongue in the same kind of position as the the K sound, but instead of stopping the airflow entirely, like the P, T, and K sounds do, it's merely constricted, like the F, TH, and S sounds. [[User:Gus|Gus]] 05:53, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

== Woman's Rights? ==
Don't you think that when Strong Bad says to Marzipan "I'm legally obligatted to have you here," is a reference to woman's right movements? - [[User:Zerlock1124|Zerlock1124]]
: It could be any of a number of things. Maybe he lost a bet and foolishly signed a contract. Maybe she sued him for not appearing in enough Strong Bad Emails. Who can really say without more info? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:53, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::Nah, I think it is a women's rights thing.  When I went to school there was something called title IX, which basically said for every male sport, there had to be one female sport also. I think that this is something similiar.  SB is being forced to have a woman there and he resents it. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 21:31, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:::I can see arguments for a lot of possibilities, including that, but it amounts to speculation in the end. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:32, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
I thought of affirmative action laws whenever I first saw this, but later wondered if it had anything to do with Title IX instead.  Seeing the amiguity of this and how one speculate so much about this, I figure that we probably shouldn't list anything relating to this as a Fun Fact. {{User:Garnet Jell-o/sig}} 22:02, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:Don't even bother, it would never survive STUFF. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 22:09, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::It would never make it to Stuff.{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 22:25, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::Marzipan does say "Word Booty", though, emphasising that she is a woman. [[User:24.222.208.199|24.222.208.199]] 06:23, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
:::As said before, this could be any number of things, but the timing does match with the proposed reinstatement of the "Fairness Doctrine." See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine [[User:Pladams9|Pladams9]] 14:21, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

::::Let me repeat: I can see arguments for a lot of possibilities, including that, but it amounts to speculation in the end. {{User:Qermaq/sig}}

Nah, I don't think so.  I think it is just joking about how this sometimes happens in real life, and maybe Marzipan is the representitave of the people that Strong Bad ''doesn't'' hate the least.

:So...should I try STUFFing it or not? In other words, is there anyone here other than me that thinks that it'll survive stuff?

==Freakily Abrupt Cut==

The cut after Strong Bad's reaction to the Cheat's editing is freakily abrupt. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 21:11, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:Show me how. I mean, it's not obvious. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 13:40, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
::There are no sounds for three seconds after Strong Bad's line. It might not be abrupt, but it is freaky. Strong Bad also finishes his line quicker than expected. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 00:22, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

==Hsaio==

How do you pronounce that? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 21:19, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

:The most simple way to put it in english is "sow", as in a female pig. &mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:27, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::Actually, the correct pronunciation is more like "shyow" (where the "ow" is as in "sow"). I'm taking Chinese, so I have some experience with this. In Mainland China, it would actually be written as "Xiao", but Taiwan uses a different romanization. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:43, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:::kinda like Joao Gilberto's first name? {{User:Csours/sig}} 01:58, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

== Explicitly from Asia? ==

I think the fact that says "first email from Asia" should read "First email explicitly from Asia" as some emails don't have a place(who knows, maybe the 2nd email in the Ali and Ali's sister ep. was sent from Asia)
:Yeah, and what about that Horse woman thingy?-[[User:LordQuackingstick|LordQuackingstick]] 21:23, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::What on Earth are you referring to? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:34, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:::[[E-mail Birds]].-[[User:LordQuackingstick|LordQuackingstick]] 21:36, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::::I still don't see how that's relevant to the email's geographical origin. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:44, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::"Naomi" is a common female first name in Japan, however she says she is from "AB" and according to wikipedia, the only AB that is a place is Aberdeen in the UK
:::::I can't figure out where they're even from... [[Strong Bad Email By Place]] doesn't list it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::It doesn't? She should be listed under [[Wikipedia:Alberta|Alberta]], Canada... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:49, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::PS. She '''''is''''' listed under Alberta, Canada. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:50, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::THere is also a similar Hebrew name נעמי. I believe the English transliteration would be Naomi. Perhaps she is Israeli?{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 22:52, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I've known several Naomis here in the states, and of course Canada uses many of the same names we do. I don't see any reason to assume any place but Alberta. P.S.: Why are we discussing this here and not on [[Talk:E-mail Birds]]? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:55, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::::AB is Alberta? Shoot.-[[User:LordQuackingstick|LordQuackingstick]] 21:01, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

== Skull? ==

Should we mention that this is the first time we get to see his possible Bone/Skull shape? you know, just wondering. {{User:ArchiveMaker/sig}}

See a thread on this above. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:12, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

==Specificnicityness==

"In the case of Canada, it refers to Yoplait Tubes."

Unless Yoplait Tubes directly markets to young parsons in the way Go-Gurt does, I think this should be taken out. What it ''actually'' refers to is GoGurt because of its marketing campaign. It's coincidence that Yoplait also makes tubed yogurt, except in Canada instead of USA. --[[User:Savethemooses|Savethemooses]] 23:05, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
:Go-Gurt ''is'' a product of Yoplait... so it's not really a coincidence... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:03, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

:I only put that there because of exclusivity opinions of mine. --Sorry from [[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 03:40, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually, Yoplait sells their Yoplait tubes, as well as Go-Gurt in the USA.  There are also other companies that have yogurt tubes (I think dannon does).

== kosher vs pareve ==

tea would be pareve, unless it had milk in it. however, marzipan widely uses soy products. any comments? {{User:Csours/sig}} 02:01, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
:I'm thinking it's just a joke, but if tea indeed cannot be kosher (you can see I'm no Jew!) I think that is a goof. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:01, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
::Knowing  something about Kashrut, I can assure you that out of all the substances in the world, tea would be a rather easy thing to make kosher. And, yes it would probably be pareve, meaning not-meat and non-dairy. However, if the company even bothered at all to mark the tea as pareve, they would have done so on the kosher symbol, which we can assume is on the back or side of the box. Most of the time, whether a product is dairy or non-dairy is left up to the consumer to figure out. Products are only marked if there could be confusion as to whether or not they contain milk, as the supervising agencies assume there is no need to mark cottage cheese dairy, or ramen noodles pareve. My verdict: No goof and not notable.{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 03:39, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Doesn't chai have dairy in it? I thought they added cream or something. It sure tastes creamy and delicious. And no, that's not a .. chai latte.. at least I don't think it was.

:Out of the Israeli experience, I can assure you that everything here that is edible is marked as Kosher, ranging from actual food products, to bathroom spray to paint and glue. On meat products the rabbi actually look at the way the cattle is slaughtered, but on all the rest they just tour the plant to see that no-one is eating sea-food and give the ok for the Kosher sign to be labeled on the package. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:07, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

== The Depression did what? ==

When I first heard the line (and with every subsequent listening) I heard (and hear) The Depression '''caught''' Abraham Lincoln naked.
:I definitely hear "fought"... there's a very clear "F" at the start... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:19, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
:I've listened to it three times and every time heard caught.  But, i havent listened to it since i saw that anyone said its fought
*I hear "The Depression '''got''' Abraham Lincoln naked." it doesn't make sense, but some of the stuff on this website doesn't make sense either. besides, by the sound of it, you can tell that "granny" is a few fries short of a Happy Meal. [[User:Zerlock1124|Zerlock1124]]
:I hear "caught" --[[User:AshyRaccoon|AshyRaccoon]] 23:13, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
::It's distinctly "caught". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Originally I heard "caught", but another listening suggests "fought", as I definitely hear an "f". {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:29, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Very distinctly '''fought'''.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:43, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::I hear fought, but it's very unclear. To me, '''caught''' or '''got''' makes more sense, as how could the Great Depression ''fight'' anything? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 00:42, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::Precisely. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::::The Great Depression couldn't do ''anything'' to Abraham Lincoln, as he had been dead for over sixty years at the time the Great Depression began. This sentence isn't going to make sense at all; it's just a parody on all the stories old people tell. Thus, there's no reason to assume "caught" because "fought" doesn't make sense: no word will make sense here. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:49, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Yes.  This is just exaggerating on how old Strong Sad says his Great Grandma is.  Abraham Lincoln is well known, and so is the Depression.  They are each from a long time ago, so it is just making fun of old people's stories.
:::::::::I actually hear 'taught' consarnit.
::::::::I've got my big old Webster's dictionary out, and one of the definitions of "get" is "to cause to come or go" or "to cause to be in a certain position or condition". So, with this definition, saying "the Depression got Abraham Lincoln naked" would grammatically be correct. I guess "fought" would be grammatically correct too, but to me, it doesn't make as much sense, as the Depression is not a millitary or some other type of force that usually fights. I still keep hearing fought, though. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:04, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

== Seizure Warnings ==
Just a quick note, videogames have had seizure warnings since at least the Sega Genesis era, as far as I remember.  It wasn't just Pokémon that added this, I remember it being in the manual for Sonic 2.
:Yeah, but it's been a lot more common lately. And now they're, like, actually IN the games. I don't remember seeing one before ''Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door'' (although my friend's DreamCast games had them). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I remember seizure warnings in ''original NES'' manuals... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:55, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
::Some games needed 'em more than others... like ''Zelda II''... that was some death screen. They must've had a warning for that.-[[User:LordQuackingstick|LordQuackingstick]] 21:04, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

==Reference to Plastic Surgery/Botox?==

When they tightened SB's laces, immediently botox came to mind since really old people get it done so they look "young". -Teh C.
:Well, it is a ref to cosmetic surgery, but not botox... Strong Bad called the procedure a "lace lift" after all, which is a pun on "face lift"... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:13, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
::And, that would fall under the category of "explaining the joke" which we don't like to do. Well, explaining the "lace lift/face lift" might be important, but let the reader figure the rest out. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:51, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

==404'd!==

I'm getting a 404'd when I try to watch this email. Could somebody tell me what's going on?--[[User:Apopcolypse nowish|Apopcolypse nowish]] 16:46, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Never mind. It was a problem with my cache. It's fixed now.--[[User:Apopcolypse nowish|Apopcolypse nowish]] 16:47, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

== Drakkhen? ==

Say, anybody gonna add Drakkhen to the Floppy Disk Container page?  I'd do it, but I'm not set up to do screen grabs.  --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 17:45, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

:Ah, The Paper has taken care of it.  --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 20:26, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Just for your reference, (I don't know if this works on Mac. keyboards, but I know it is on Windows) if you press the "Print Screen" button (around the upper right of your keyboard usually), it takes a screen shot.  Then, you can select paste on an image editor or anything really, and the image will be pasted, then you can edit it.  Just so you know, if you have  this stuff...

== Strong Sad bossing SB around? ==

Is this e-mail notable for Strong Sad actually leading Strong Bad along, with SB going along with it?
:Not quite.  Strong Sad is apparently mistaking Strong Bad for a different person due to SB's distorted face. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:24, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
With a smile like that,you know he knows it's SB.
:Either that or he enjoys being around his grandparents. If Strong Sad snickered off to himself or something like that, then we know that SS knows that "granny" is really SB. [[User:Zerlock1124|Zerlock1124]]

I think he either enjoys having his Great grandma, or he knows he is taking advantage of Strong Bad, and having a good time doing it.  I think it is probably the latter (where he knows it's SB).

== Go-Gurt? ==

Is Strong Bad referencing Go-Gurt[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go-Gurt] when he says,"I eat my yogurt through a tube!" 

I'm only saying this because Go-Gurt commercials usually had kids that would always be skateboarding and such.
:Most espi-definitely (especially + definitely). In fact, it's already a fun fact on the page. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Echo ==

When I watched this the first time yesterday, I recall Homestar's line in the warehouse easter egg had an echo applied to it. Watching it today, there was no echo. Did anyone else notice it, or was I just hearing things? --[[User:Ragey|Ragey]] 20:47, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
:I hear an echo even now. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== You eat EVERYTHING through a tube! ==

I removed an Explanation FF saying that Strong Sad's line "You eat ''everything'' through a tube!" is a reference to an IV (intravenous catheter, etc).  That's not quite true - yes, you can be given nutrition through an IV, but that's less common than being fed through a feeding tube, which goes down the esophagus.  Feeding tubes are only given to severely disabled patients, those in comas and persistent vegetative states, etc. - basically, people who are unable to feed themselves or even perform the mouth, tongue and swallowing motions necessary to eat.  With SB's mask stretched so tight, it's conceivable that he might need a feeding tube, but that's speculation and outside the scope of this FF.

I think it'd be valid to mention feeding tubes, but I'm at a loss as to how to word the FF or which section it should go in.  Thoughts? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:28, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

:Frankly, I don't think it needs to be explained at all. I simply don't see the relevance, and since it could mean either of the two, it would also be one of those "It could mean this or that" FFs.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:30, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

::I think that eating with a tube could be reference to the fact the older people without teeth drink solid food with a straw after it's mashed to liquid. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:37, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

:::This type of fact would ''definitely'' be "explaining the joke". We can't explain everything without ruining the humor or seeming as if we're treating the readers as unintelligent. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:10, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

== younger ==

STRONG BAD: Uh, nice try, bo-hwee-moth, but that's a little younger than I was looking to go. These are all terrible ideas! What am I not paying you people for, anyway? It's time to resort to extreme measures. With Gene Hackman. It's time for a lace lift!

''should read''

STRONG BAD: Uh, nice try, bo-hwee-moth, but that's a little younger than I was looking to ''glow''. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:59, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
: Don't hear it, doesn't make sense, so no. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:57, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
:: yea, i still hear it. its at/about frame 2330. {{User:Csours/sig}} 00:32, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Are we talking about the same problem that the [[wikipedia:Street Fighter II|Street Fighter II]] voices suffered (aka Tatsumaki.../[[dangeresque 3|The pipes are broken]])? Bad quality issues? --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 05:10, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

== More Specific Siren? ==

In the transcript, it says that Strong Bad is imitating a siren when he calls for the Emergency Marketing Meeting, but the click-click-click-etc. thing threw me. Normal sirens don't have that clicking sound, so is he refering to any specific siren, such as one used in the army or something? -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 22:29, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
:Check the article, it's apparently refering to some game called "Maniac Mansion."-[[User:LordQuackingstick|LordQuackingstick]] 23:28, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
::Ah. Right. Thanks. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 01:43, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

''Maniac Mansion'' is an awesome game, but the alarm from the NES version is very different. So, I've removed the fact:
<blockquote>*Strong Bad's "alarm" sound is an imitation of the alarm heard in the NES version of [[Wikipedia:Maniac Mansion|Maniac Mansion]] when you turn on the water valve.</blockquote>

Perhaps this is true for the PC version of the game, but I've never played that version. If somebody knows more about this, feel free to revise the fact and add it back into the article. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:59, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

== Homestar & Homsar ==

(If this was mentioned, I apologize.  I didn't see it anywhere, but I could have missed it.)

Should something be added to the remarks/inside references about Homestar's line to Homsar, where he calls Homsar Homestar?  [[User:Paczjj15|Paczjj15]] 01:48, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
:... such as what? It's already mentioned in the transcript that he says the word "Homestar" and the transcript also specifies that he's talking to Homsar. What else is there to say? There used to be another fact speculating ''why'' he called Homsar "Homestar", but it was removed as speculation. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:24, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

== Power Point? ==

At one point in the transcript it reads "A close-up of the power point under the desk.". Personally, I think this should be changed. In America, they are not called power points, and some Americans reading this may be confused by that term. Perhaps we could change it to electrical outlet or socket. We should probably use a term that anyone could quickly and easily understand, and since I'm not sure what other terms are used in England, I wantedd like some input before I changed it. - {{User:Exhibit A/sig}} 02:46, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

:Seconded. We wouldn't want people to confuse it with Microsoft PowerPoint, and "outlet" is probably more recognizable anyway. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 02:58, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
::Thirded? yeah, I had no idea what that meant (I didn't watch it to see what it was talking about).-[[User:LordQuackingstick|LordQuackingstick]] 03:02, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
:::Fourth'd'ded? I'ma be '''bold''' and change it to electrical outlet. - [[User:Dr. Clash|Dr. Clash]]
::::Heh, sorry about that, guys... it is called a "power point" here in Australia (so that is, therefore, the absolute correct term for that object :P). One of the more obscure differences between American English and Aussie English... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:37, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::Makes me want to go get tucker, eh mate? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:04, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::Nobody calls it tucker. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 01:23, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::Speaking as a proud xenophobe, American English ONLY!  Woo-hoo! --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 15:34, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Do people outside of the US refer to them as "electrical outlets" or "electrical sockets" or something like that?  That way we all know that it refers to the electrical term, and if it is used in other places, it'd be better.

== Picture usage inconsistency ==

[[Image:Nachocheesemask.png|thumb|Qermaq's suggestion|left]]
[[Image:sbe164.png|thumb|Original shot from article|right]]
The left is of the picture that Qermaq suggested, and the right is of the one on the main page. I mean, I face this kind of picture usage inconsistency at times on Wikipedia but I don't just go change them... --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 13:47, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

:Uh, yeah, the left is a bit too bright though. Unless someone is actually able to decompile the steam off. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 13:47, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

::I am not sure what you mean by the word "inconsistent". I noted in the edit summary that this was just to see if it looked OK to others, and you were free to revert. This is not a big deal. I wonder which pic is better for the article, and now discussion has started. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:34, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

:::Didn't use a decompiler, but I did tweak the left image in imagemagick and The GIMP to get rid of the faded effect. It's probably the better one, now... captures the scene better, IMO. Though, I'm not sure what you meant by "inconsistency"... if it was just that the image in the article doesn't match the one in {{tl|whatsnew}}, that's not really that big an issue, is it? The image in whatsnew isn't going to stay there long, at any rate... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:39, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

::::Well I don't know really. I mean, it's kinda odd to me. But still, I think people just post two versions of the same scene or something, but that's just me. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 17:37, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::So then change ''both'' of them, if consistency is that important. I personally like the one with the chips. On the other hand, should we be using as the main screenshot one that's been manipulated? Have there been times where we've done so in the past? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:40, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::The only time I can think of (besides, like [[Mustachioed Homestar Runner]]) is the shot for [[Lappynapped!|Missing Lappy]]. I used a decompiler, since the picture was all one image and it was convenient. So there's just a few small things visible that are normally under the border. And that's hardly the same thing, I think. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Intro Song ==

Is it just me, or does Strong Bad's (to use the article text) "Boom, tick. Tick-a-tick-a-tick, email. Boom, tick. Tick-a-tick-a-tick, What?" kind of resemble what Homestar does in the easter egg in [[Marzipan%27s_Answering_Machine_Version_7.0#Easter_Eggs]]? --[[User:AshyRaccoon|AshyRaccoon]] 23:32, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

:No. --Doesn't sound like [[wikipedia:Back in Black|Back in Black]], [[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 05:06, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

== Depression and Lincoln ==

Shouldn't they be added to the REal World References?
:The Depression, maybe. If you don't know who Lincoln is, how do you even have access to a computer? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I'd think if either were notable they'd be under Explanations. But they hardly need to be explained, I think. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:52, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
::I think its an exaggeration of how old their great grandma is.  Abe Lincoln was not around during the Depression.

== Backyard Music ==

I'm not sure, but I think the music that is playing when Marzipan is describing her plan is the same as in the email "redesign."

== Talking Heads...? ==

I was wondering if Strong Bad's opening line was a reference to anything.  It sounded familiar, and just now I remembered the rhythm from the Talking Heads song "Drugs" (from Fear Of Music).  It's a little different, but the "Boom, tick. Tick-a-tick-a-tick" feel is still familiar.

Here's the Amazon sample for a comparison (you hear a bit of the rhythm I described):
[http://www.amazon.com/gp/music/wma-pop-up/B000002KNY001011/ref=mu_sam_wma_001_011/102-3004439-5965767]

What do you think?  It struck me a little.  I don't insist on it being a reference, but Talking Heads were around in the late 70's and the 80's, and TBC had Strong Sad dress as David Byrne before, so I wonder if they would pay homage?

== "This is not a drill..." ==

It actually sounds like a drill. Anyone else notice? --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 16:39, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
:That's English for ya. drill = tool ; drill = test ; tool != test. Funny stuff. &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:51, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== Evident STUFF ===
{{stufffact|This is currently the only Email of 2007 not to mention [[DNA Evidence (running gag)|DNA Evidence]].}}
{{stuffverdict|22:11, 19 April 2007 (UTC)|00:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|19|2|looking old}}

== Feng Shui ==

Isn't Marzipan's idea a reference to Feng Shui, some sort of art/science that deals with placing stuff in such a way as to channel energy well?  This is my presumption, but I'm too lazy to research it, so maybe someone else will.  Cheers!  [[User:Telamon|-Telamon]] 08:13, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
:Not really. It's a lot different than feng shui. It's just rearranging a backyard. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:26, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

== Broken Link ==

The link in the next to last ff, the behemoth in popular culture one, is busted. {{unsigned|134.174.140.208|04:17, 6 November 2007 (UTC)}}

:Okay. I couldn't find a replacement, so I {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=looking_old&diff=513996&oldid=510209 removed it}}. Thanks, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:23, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

== Seizures ==

Wouldn't The Cheat's colorful and fast paced movie thing and Strong Bad's, "I don't know whether to throw up or have a seizure." line be a referance to the Japanese episode of Pokemon, which had colorful and fast moving scenes, that gave those kids seizures and threw up? [[User:Hooray4homestar|Hooray4homestar]] 03:49, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
@@ Line 1: / Line 1: @@
-{{featuredarticle}}
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 Strong Bad's head is a lightbulb! A trapezoidal lightbulb! --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 11:41, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
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 Wouldn't The Cheat's colorful and fast paced movie thing and Strong Bad's, "I don't know whether to throw up or have a seizure." line be a referance to the Japanese episode of Pokemon, which had colorful and fast moving scenes, that gave those kids seizures and threw up? [[User:Hooray4homestar|Hooray4homestar]] 03:49, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
-:I don't think it's a specific reference. There's a lot of cases of photosensitivity (to the point that many video games put a warning about it before the game). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:53, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
-== Has Strong Sad's goof been fixed? ==
-I've been using the Greasemonkey script frame-by-frame, and I'm not noticing two mouths at all through Strong Sad's line. Is the goof fixed? {{unsigned|76.213.173.128|14:00, 13 January 2008}}
-== Puke or have a seizure ==
-Does anyone know if the picture of Strong Bad's sign when he says "I don't know whether to puke or have a seizure" has been uploaded anywhere? {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 16:12, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
-:[[:File:Style1.PNG|Here's the sign of Strong Bad puking]]. Not sure if we have the sign of Strong Bad having a seizure on here yet. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:27, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Style 2 ==
-[[File:Style2.PNG]] {{User:C-Son-L Sweaters/sig}} 00:23, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
-That's great. Now... what about it?--[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 01:12, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
-:Well, we have one now. I uploaded this. We didn't have one before I uploaded this. It was a new file. I uploaded it because I saw that there was a style 1, but not a style 2 so I uploaded a style 2. [[User:C-Son-L Sweaters|C-Son-L Sweaters]]
-== Crustily Guarded Monks. ==
-When this email first came out, my immediate reaction to the "Crustily guarded bread" quip was an old show I used to watch on Public TV, featuring a monk who baked bread.  At the time, I couldn't find any direct references to the show, but now know that he has written numerous books on baking and spirituality as well.  His name is Father Dominic Garramome, and the name of the show was Breaking Bread with Father Dominic.  Several of his books are listed on Amazon.com.
-Anyway, I felt this possible reference had much more weight behind it than the reference to the Trappist monks of Genesee.  However, both the Trappists and Father Dominic are known for their breads, and if it were up to me, both would be included at the very least as possible references.
-So, what say you, Wiki community: should Father Dominic and/or the Trappists monks of Genesee be included as possible references?