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Stongbad says "But don't take it from me...". That sounds similar to the token phrase from Reading Rainbow: "But don't take my work for it...". Maybe too far of a stretch. {{unsigned|65.208.30.254|17:00, 8 September 2008}}
Stongbad says "But don't take it from me...". That sounds similar to the token phrase from Reading Rainbow: "But don't take my work for it...". Maybe too far of a stretch. {{unsigned|65.208.30.254|17:00, 8 September 2008}}
:It's the first thing I thought of. {{unsigned|75.73.70.113|23:01, 8 September 2008}}
:It's the first thing I thought of. {{unsigned|75.73.70.113|23:01, 8 September 2008}}
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::I don't think it's a reference. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:58, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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:::I think it is, It's very Burtonesque and it goes with the teachin' kids stuff theme of the email [[Special:Contributions/24.254.225.128|24.254.225.128]] 19:01, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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::::It's "But don't take my word for it..."  and if it was a reference they probably would have used that wording.--[[User:Pop tire|Pop tire]] 20:55, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 
== Screenshot ==
== Screenshot ==
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::We don't make screenshots based on the toons menu anyway. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:50, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
::We don't make screenshots based on the toons menu anyway. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:50, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Oh, okay, didn't know that. {{User:The Commander IN COMMAND/sig}}
:::Oh, okay, didn't know that. {{User:The Commander IN COMMAND/sig}}
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::::On a similar note, why do we have two different screenshots on two different pages? Shouldn't they be the same? {{User:Dungeonman262}} 4:44, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
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::::On a similar note, why do we have two different screenshots on two different pages? Shouldn't they be the same? {{User:Dungeonman262/sig}} 4:44, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
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:::::Yeah! Why doesn't a Sysop edit that? I thought Sysops could edit the Main page...
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::::::I just replaced it. (the one on the main page). BTW., you don't need to be a sysop for that, you just have to edit [[Template:whatsnew]], which is only semiprotected (meaning that anonymous users can't edit it). {{User:The Commander IN COMMAND/sig}} 00:06, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
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Whoever is williing to do it, please put my screenshot (the current one) on the page. They REALLY need to be the same.
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{{User:MichaelXX2/sig}}
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I'm not too sure with the current image. It's a funny image, sure, but doesn't it spoil the funniest part of the email? I'd rather have Strong Bad and Homestar with the ice cream cone. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 14:00, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
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:And by the way Commander, all you have to do to take a screenshot of the toons menu is to go [http://www.homestarrunner.com/menuswfs/menu_sbemail199.swf  here.] {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 00:14, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
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== Accreditation ==
== Accreditation ==
The King of Town's reference about not losing accreditation may be inspired by the Clayton County, Georgia school system's recent loss of accreditation about a week ago.  Clayton County is directly south of Atlanta, TBC's home base.  [http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/29/education/29clayton.html?hp] {{unsigned|68.36.181.124|19:42, 8 September 2008}}
The King of Town's reference about not losing accreditation may be inspired by the Clayton County, Georgia school system's recent loss of accreditation about a week ago.  Clayton County is directly south of Atlanta, TBC's home base.  [http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/29/education/29clayton.html?hp] {{unsigned|68.36.181.124|19:42, 8 September 2008}}
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:Yes.  This is the truth and is not linked to any other school system, because a school system hasn't lost accreditation since 1969. {{unsigned|160.10.7.115|22:55, 9 September 2008}}
 
== Goblin Keep Siege? ==
== Goblin Keep Siege? ==
It might be a bit of a stretch, but couldn't Nice Dad's third email (to the 42-year old etc.) be a reference to World of Warcraft, or at least MMOs in general? Goblin Keep sieges in particular makes me think of WoW. -Zero.exe
It might be a bit of a stretch, but couldn't Nice Dad's third email (to the 42-year old etc.) be a reference to World of Warcraft, or at least MMOs in general? Goblin Keep sieges in particular makes me think of WoW. -Zero.exe
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:I think it was a mention, not really noteworthy though - {{User:Wecannotbesaved/sig}} 00:06, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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::It's not WoW.  It's a parody of the indie game "Dwarf Fortress," a game that you control a fortress of dwarves and defend against goblin sieges. (MNC)
 
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== Homestar's Tongue ==
 
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First time we see homestar's tongue? I'm going to check the rest of the site, but I'm pretty sure him licking his stack of dairy is the first time we see it... Anyone want to help verify?
 
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--[[User:Flytape8490|Flytape8490]] 23:58, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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:Hmm... I guess so. It sure could be a reference... {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}}
 
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::but what would the reference be to?--[[User:Flytape8490|Flytape8490]] 01:31, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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:::I went ahead and added the fact to Trivia [[User:Telamon|-Telamon]] 01:34, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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::::We're not counting the [[hygiene|part where Homestar as John blows his nose]] as the first instance we see his tongue? --[[Special:Contributions/66.82.9.80|66.82.9.80]] 02:17, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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:::::Well spotted.  I suspected it had happened before [[User:Telamon|-Telamon]] 02:23, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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::::::Darn. So close to my first real contribution. ^^'--[[User:Flytape8490|Flytape8490]] 22:00, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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== Coach Z's arms ==
 
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*Coach Z's arms are messed up; they are separated at the elbow.
 
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I'm not so sure about this "goof".  While it's technically true (that's how they are animated), it doesn't seem to be significantly different here than in any other toon. Am I missing something? {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 00:46, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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:Look for the outline of the lower arm separating the upper arm in certain poses. that usually doesn't happen. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:53, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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::Do you mean the lower arm being drawn on top of the upper arm instead of underneath it?  That seems to be pretty common. I found one or two frames where there's an actual gap between them though. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 01:04, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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:::It's not [[HR:menuswfs/menu_sbemail196.swf|entirely uncommon]], at least, and definitely not restricted to this one toon. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:27, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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== The bear facts ==
 
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Uh. That's not a bear. The ears look more like eyes to me. And the eyes look like nostrils. Also, what's with the spikes on its arms? {{User:Mee/sig}} 23:43, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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: Fur? Anyway, compare the ears and eyes to those of the [[Bear Holding a Shark]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:56, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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: Okay, granted, I just checked and the eyes don't match the BhaS as well as I remembered. Still looks like a bear to me though. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:59, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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::Before I read this topic, there was no question in my mind that it was a bear. Now, it still looks like a bear to me. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 00:20, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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:Y'know, you've got a point there.  I just accepted that it was a bear, but it does have some decidedly monster-like characteristics.  ([http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8717/monstabearlz9.jpg Image]) I do still contend that the intended effect is the KoT's crown as the beast's lower jaw.  -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 01:49, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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::I see a reptilian monster with an elongated snout (the crown IS the lower jaw), and i'm sure that was the intention. I do, however, see how one could think it's a bear. Similar to the [http://mathworld.wolfram.com/YoungGirl-OldWomanIllusion.html old hag/young woman illusion], the "bear's" eyes are the nostrils, and the "bear's" ears are the eyes. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:54, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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==Drawing Reference?==
 
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Um, this probably isn't a reference, but could the Chalkboard Bear and the "Hungry Shark" possibly refer to the Bear Holding a Shark? {{User:Strongkinghomsarsmith/sig}} 00:07, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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== SB Peeking? ==
 
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When the New Paper comes down at the end, SB moves the picture of "Hungry Shark Emails" downwards to show the parts covered by New Paper, which is basically the formula followed for [[Homestar Peeking]]. Should this count as a reference? I know the other characters rarely if ever do this... -Zero.exe
 
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:No, Strong Bad moved a piece of paper at, like, the second the paper came down. So, he could've just done it so it wouldn't get messed up or something like that. Doesn't really qualify as peeking. {{User:HRjcm/sig}} 22:54, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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==Bestest/Greatest==
 
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Um, this got DELETED, but I am pretty sure that in Coach Z's rap (including the easter egg), he says "bestest" instead of greatest, except the last time that greatest is said in the easter egg. Can anybody confirm/disprove this? {{User:Strongkinghomsarsmith/sig}} 22:14, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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:Greatest. definitely. "Bestest" isn't even a word. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:17, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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::Pfargtl, Biz, Caz, Fri, and Whatsit don't appear in the dictionary, and in the dictionary I'm holding, bestest does. Also, when Coach Z says greatest ''for sure'' at the end of the easter egg, it sounds ''completely'' different than when the transcript says that he said greatest. {{User:Strongkinghomsarsmith/sig}} 22:26, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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:I added "bestest" in two spots after listening through the toon a second time, noting how distinct "greatest" sounds at the end of the full rap.  However, I recorded both instances and after replaying them several times, I had to concede that he does say "greatest", so I reverted both of my edits.  He just says "greatest" differently the first two times. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 02:20, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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::Before I noticed the controversy, I thought he said "bestest" at some point... but I'm not hearing it now. Just "greatest". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:56, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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:::Ditto that.  I think we're psychologically set up to hear "bestest" if we're not paying close attention because everyone else in the toon says "the best choice." -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 03:00, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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::::That's....actually a plausible theory. Oh, and ReverendTed, could you upload that recording somehow? {{User:Strongkinghomsarsmith/sig}} 14:38, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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:::::I suppose I could, but I don't really know where would be good for that.  Besides, if you watch through the toon once, you can play the full rap repeatedly at the end. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 01:53, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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==Likes to get what?==
 
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In the easter egg, during Coach Z's rap he says "my name's Coach Z and I likes to get..." This word following this is listed as "noice" here in the wiki, but listening to this line over and over, I find this highly unlikely as there is definitely a "t" sound at end. I suspect this may be "I likes to get moist", which although it doesn't match the "nice" theme, it does sound like something Coach Z might say. Also, despite the fact that the cd cover says "noice" he appears to have no problem with the word later in the song.
 
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:Don't forget to sign your comments.  Anyway, I hear "noice", and I believe the "t" sound you're hearing is just hiss\feedback from the "s" sound.  As for why he pronounces it differently, that's probably because he's trying to make it rhyme on the first occurrence, not because of his speech impediment. -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 01:50, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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::Actually, I agree with the annony. I hear moist. I never heard nice(noice). It could only be Coach Z's accent, but I'm standing by moist. {{User:DrPepper42/sig}} 04:28, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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:::It's clearly "noice", for reasons of both context and rhyme scheme. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:34, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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::::It's about being '''nice''', "moist" makes no sense, not even as some joke. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 04:35, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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:::::Moist? No. It's "noice", as a mispronunciation of "nice" [[User:Ivoj Nob|Ivoj Nob]] 04:47, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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::::::I think Coach Z getting "moist" is entirely possible.. tough one.. I'll withhold judgement and wait for the DVD, hoping for better audio. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 04:50, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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:::::::Oprimistic-man, "noice" matches the caption in the easter egg, so I don't think it would be "moist". [[User:Ivoj Nob|Ivoj Nob]] 04:55, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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:::::::::Right.  And what I'm saying is that I can't hear it clearly enough to determine whether it is "moist" or "noice".  I'm being objective, see?  Which is why I am withholding judgement until I hear it with better sound quality.  That's what's going to sell me.  Until then, if consensus says "noice" it doesn't bother me one bit.  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 17:19, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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::::::::I hear the "t", too...but...hey, what's this? It's the beat in the background that sounds like a "t" (kinda) that plays at the moment "noice" is over. Plus, as Ivoj Nob said, "noice" is what the album/single cover says. {{User:DevonM/sig}} 06:05, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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:::::::I too think Coach Z getting moist is probable, but as a lyric I am both uninterested and unconvinced. "Noice", a Tree-Stooges-esqu variant of "nice", is more sensible in context. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:05, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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::::::::I believe the point of the joke is that Coach Z is a poor lyricist and is trying to force a rhyme between the intended lyric "nice" and the other words, "choice" and "voice". -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 16:57, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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''{eats colons}'' Well, getting moist ''is'' in Coach Z's character, yet I still think it's "noice". {{User:Ivoj Nob/sig}} 17:29, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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==Character video==
 
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The KoT interrupts Coach Z in the middle of his rap in a similar manner to Homestar in his (Coach Z's) character video. Notable? [[Special:Contributions/129.174.182.59|129.174.182.59]] 03:41, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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:Marzipan also interrupts Coach Z's freestyling in [[Fall Float Parade]] (on the grounds that it's "really annoying"). At the very least, I think it should be included in Coach Z's biography page. Something about how he likes rap, and the other characters don't like when he tries. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:44, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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== Subject Line Puns ==
 
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The other two "Nice Dad" emails had the subject lines "chum" and "role model", addressed to a shark (chum is shark bait) and a ''role''-playing game addict. This notable? (I personally think that at least the "chum" pun should be explained; it's fairly obscure, methinks.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:36, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 
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== Being Nice or Being Mean? ==
 
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In the Toons menu, the sbemail title is called Being Nice, rather than Being Mean...is it a goof-up? Or on purpose?
 
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--[[Special:Contributions/24.13.162.218|24.13.162.218]] 02:51, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 
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:I don't know.  i personally think it's a goof.  {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 15:53, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 
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== Coach Z gets Noice! Easter Egg ==
 
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What's the deal? I know there's a hidden commentary (No Transcript, see Disc 6 discussion), it claims that the chalk drawing is done automatically and what about Gets Nice Easter Egg, is it Next + v + v + v + WSBhead + Enter or Again or Main or What?
 
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Just do each one. {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 15:58, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 
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== gem_.exe ==
 
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What does gem stand for? Could It be gay e mails? HELP.
 
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: No. It means "gem". It's an actual English word. And Homestar Runner cartoons have never been known to use homosexuality as an insult, much as Strong Bad will insult you for anything else imaginable. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:00, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 
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==Comentary==
 
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I wanna do the comentary script for being mean. I realy do! If you don't want me to, PM me before it's too late.
 
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{{User:Nihaho13/sig}} 19:49, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
 
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: Too late! I'm Finished. If you are a person who edits scrips or a gnome tell me what to edit on the talk page of [[User:Nihaho13/Work|my work]] ... After you read it of course. {{User:Nihaho13/sig}} 00:32, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 
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:: This is a Wiki. So long as you don't vandalize anything, you can work on anything you want. You can go ahead and put it on the page now if you like. If there are any problems, people will fix them. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:44, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 
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== Swearing ==
 
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In one of the Easter eggs, when the KoT is in the middle of the screen at the Classroom, you can change the image on the right-hand side of the chalkboard to a spear impaling him with the label "THUCK!" Is that swearing or not? If it is, then should we add it to the "[[Swears]]" article? --[[Special:Contributions/88.226.159.247|88.226.159.247]] 19:58, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
 
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:No. It's onomatopoeia. {{User:SRMX12/sig}} 21:08, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
 
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::Oh. I thought it sounded like the F-word. --[[Special:Contributions/95.5.20.94|95.5.20.94]] 00:16, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
 
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:::Now it's been added to [[Onomatopoeia]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 13:57, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
 

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