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==Character themes== | ==Character themes== | ||
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: Though sometimes it'll fail to play both themes together... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:57, 16 July 2007 (UTC) | : Though sometimes it'll fail to play both themes together... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:57, 16 July 2007 (UTC) | ||
: Oh, yeah, and when you win, it'll play what sounds like all the themes together. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:03, 16 July 2007 (UTC) | : Oh, yeah, and when you win, it'll play what sounds like all the themes together. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:03, 16 July 2007 (UTC) | ||
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==Multiple endings== | ==Multiple endings== | ||
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This is true, because all characters either always lie or always tell the truth [[User:68.54.84.110|68.54.84.110]] 19:40, 16 July 2007 (UTC) | This is true, because all characters either always lie or always tell the truth [[User:68.54.84.110|68.54.84.110]] 19:40, 16 July 2007 (UTC) | ||
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== Painfully dumb question... == | == Painfully dumb question... == | ||
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It seems rather clear thar "an egg" has an integral article--it is refered to as such even in situations where "the egg" would be more appropriate, as it is clear this egg is the only egg in the game. --[[User:71.221.232.189|71.221.232.189]] 17:22, 18 July 2007 (UTC) | It seems rather clear thar "an egg" has an integral article--it is refered to as such even in situations where "the egg" would be more appropriate, as it is clear this egg is the only egg in the game. --[[User:71.221.232.189|71.221.232.189]] 17:22, 18 July 2007 (UTC) | ||
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== Translation Error == | == Translation Error == | ||
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*If the suspect is a liar, the game randomly chooses a reply. | *If the suspect is a liar, the game randomly chooses a reply. | ||
*The game first checks to make sure the randomly-chosen person is not the real answer to the question (otherwise the suspect wouldn't be lying). | *The game first checks to make sure the randomly-chosen person is not the real answer to the question (otherwise the suspect wouldn't be lying). | ||
- | *Then it checks to make sure the randomly-chosen <u>person</u> is not the same as the <u>item</u> at the current location. For example, "Is the man in the red hat equal to the pencil?" (Notice it doesn't ask whether the man ''has'' the pencil, but whether the man ''is'' the pencil.) <u>The answer to this question can never be true</u> | + | *Then it checks to make sure the randomly-chosen <u>person</u> is not the same as the <u>item</u> at the current location. For example, "Is the man in the red hat equal to the pencil?" (Notice it doesn't ask whether the man ''has'' the pencil, but whether the man ''is'' the pencil.) <u>The answer to this question can never be true</u>, and thus it is possible for a suspect to reply with their own face. For the question to make sense, the game should check whether the randomly-chosen person is the same as the <u>person</u> at the current location. |
When the game makes similar checks in other places, the code is correct: | When the game makes similar checks in other places, the code is correct: | ||
*If you ask about an item and a liar replies with a place, the game checks to make sure the randomly-chosen place is not the current location. | *If you ask about an item and a liar replies with a place, the game checks to make sure the randomly-chosen place is not the current location. | ||
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::No, that would be entirely different. That scenario would not affect anything in the toon, but this programming error actually affects the game. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 16:44, 18 August 2007 (UTC) | ::No, that would be entirely different. That scenario would not affect anything in the toon, but this programming error actually affects the game. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 16:44, 18 August 2007 (UTC) | ||
:::But in a way that is virtually unnoticable--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 16:46, 18 August 2007 (UTC) | :::But in a way that is virtually unnoticable--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 16:46, 18 August 2007 (UTC) | ||
- | ::::The goof does not make the liar lie. What's happening is that the program is trying to make sure the liar doesn't reply with his or her own face, but the goof prevents this check from ever happening. I would not characterize this as "virtually unnoticeable". In fact, when a suspect replies with his or her own face, it is ''very'' noticeable. In addition, we are looking at the code for clues about the actual gameplay, not nitpicking comments | + | ::::The goof does not make the liar lie. What's happening is that the program is trying to make sure the liar doesn't reply with his or her own face, but the goof prevents this check from ever happening. I would not characterize this as "virtually unnoticeable". In fact, when a suspect replies with his or her own face, it is ''very'' noticeable. In addition, we are looking at the code for clues about the actual gameplay, not nitpicking comments. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:52, 18 August 2007 (UTC) |
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== Why are you reverting these edits? == | == Why are you reverting these edits? == | ||
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* The three spaceships that fly by are all russian made. | * The three spaceships that fly by are all russian made. | ||
* The three spaceships are a reference to Tetris, a russian video game. | * The three spaceships are a reference to Tetris, a russian video game. | ||
- | * The wiki itself explains that the game has russian references (read the | + | * The wiki itself explains that the game has russian references (read the damn article, especially the trivia section!) |
The edits were... | The edits were... | ||
* The fact the game is in Russian meaning you can't understand what's going on and have to make guess work. | * The fact the game is in Russian meaning you can't understand what's going on and have to make guess work. | ||
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:::::I'd be unhappy with the first fact, because it's basically speculation. Yes, some people see the connection when they play the game, and I can definitely see this being true. But we don't know if that was the actual intention of TBC, so it's a bit too bold to claim that it is. What we usually do is note this on the talk page, as we've now done. As for the second fact, there is currently only one Google result for the phrase in question [http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=%22mobile%20is%20the%20future%2C%20my%20main%20man%22]. I haven't seen the movie myself, but it doesn't seem to be a quote from anywhere.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:11, 16 August 2007 (UTC) | :::::I'd be unhappy with the first fact, because it's basically speculation. Yes, some people see the connection when they play the game, and I can definitely see this being true. But we don't know if that was the actual intention of TBC, so it's a bit too bold to claim that it is. What we usually do is note this on the talk page, as we've now done. As for the second fact, there is currently only one Google result for the phrase in question [http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=%22mobile%20is%20the%20future%2C%20my%20main%20man%22]. I haven't seen the movie myself, but it doesn't seem to be a quote from anywhere.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:11, 16 August 2007 (UTC) | ||
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::::::..groan.. It's always gotta be "actual intentions," does it? Actually, I didn't really notice where this (the one about the game being hard to understand) was originally placed. It ''is'' a bit to speculative for the summary, but wouldn't be okay under Remarks??--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 21:22, 16 August 2007 (UTC) | ::::::..groan.. It's always gotta be "actual intentions," does it? Actually, I didn't really notice where this (the one about the game being hard to understand) was originally placed. It ''is'' a bit to speculative for the summary, but wouldn't be okay under Remarks??--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 21:22, 16 August 2007 (UTC) | ||
:::::::If we say "The game recreates..." or anything of the like, wouldn't you think that we strongly imply that this was intentional?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:29, 16 August 2007 (UTC) | :::::::If we say "The game recreates..." or anything of the like, wouldn't you think that we strongly imply that this was intentional?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:29, 16 August 2007 (UTC) | ||
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::::::::::Hmm... Well, I went up to read the opening summary as it is now to see how we might be able to fit all that in, but now that I look at it, the direct quote from Videlectrix does a pretty good job at summing up confusion and foreign language/bad translation. So then... I guess it's fine as is. I still think the original edit "The game recreates the trial-and-error aspects and confusion of playing games in another language" would look nice and pretty in remarks, but I guess I'm the only one.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 22:04, 16 August 2007 (UTC) | ::::::::::Hmm... Well, I went up to read the opening summary as it is now to see how we might be able to fit all that in, but now that I look at it, the direct quote from Videlectrix does a pretty good job at summing up confusion and foreign language/bad translation. So then... I guess it's fine as is. I still think the original edit "The game recreates the trial-and-error aspects and confusion of playing games in another language" would look nice and pretty in remarks, but I guess I'm the only one.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 22:04, 16 August 2007 (UTC) | ||
:::::::::::Meh, it seems to obvious for a full-fledged remark. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:20, 16 August 2007 (UTC) | :::::::::::Meh, it seems to obvious for a full-fledged remark. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:20, 16 August 2007 (UTC) | ||
- | + | I am the one who reverted the "my main man" fact and i stand by it. To add to what loafing said, the phrase "my main man" has over [http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&q=%22my+main+man%22&btnG=Search&meta= 224,000 google hits], hence showing it to be a common phrase and not based on that movie. Furthermore, to Nsayer and whoever else, I judge edits based on content and content alone. There have been many times when [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=rock_opera&diff=prev&oldid=479069 I've] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Cardboard_Marzipan&diff=prev&oldid=467397 reverted] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=DNA_Evidence&diff=prev&oldid=456825 even] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=dangeresque_3&diff=prev&oldid=478669 the] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=mini-golf&diff=prev&oldid=488970 more] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=marzipan&diff=prev&oldid=487197 experienced] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Quality_Time&diff=prev&oldid=487136 users]. So please stop getting all bent out of shape about your edits not getting in, and please continue to edit, and if the content is deemed good by the community, I guarantee you it will stay. Nothing to get discouraged about. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:36, 16 August 2007 (UTC) | |
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