Editing Talk:The Thnikkaman

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==Special Man?==
*Wow. I just remembered. In my social studies class last year (or is that this year? The last time I was in school, anyways), my teacher used an old television commercial as an example. It was from Louisiana, I think. I forget what the exact item was (loans, maybe), but it consisted of this: two people have trouble buying a home (or something). And some random person tells them 'You gotta see the Special Man' (all melodious, like certain unseen choruses). They go to this Special Man and ask, 'Can we have [some]?' And the Special Man replies, 'Yeah, I guess so.' Now, this was many months ago, but that's how I remember it being told to me. At the time, I instantly thought 'Hey, is that the Thinkkaman?' But I forgot about it until I just watched [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2]], and it suddenly came back to me (also, I hadn't yet discovered the HRWiki back then). Just thought this was interesting enough to share... People who ask for 'some', a melodious voice, a non-comittal reply... And even the name 'Special Man' sounds similar to Thnikkaman. The only problem I have with this is that it's from Louisiana (no tie-ins to [[weird dream]], please). Otherwise, it's almost an uncanny source for the Thnikkaman tale.  --Annonymous User Number 69.139.163.12

You're talking about Frankie and Johnnie's furniture in New Orleans.  I saw that commercial all the time growing up.  Someone would want some furniture but didn't have good credit, and they'd be told to see the "special man," an old black man with a cowboy hat and cigar who would say "Let 'em have it!"  (When I was looking for the name of the furniture store, I came across [http://www.picklescoop.com/newzarchive/October2001.html this page]:  apparently the "Special Man," Lester Love, Jr., died in 2001.)  Anyway, I thought of this same commercial when the Thnikkaman was first introduced!  --[[User:Cholling|Cholling]] 23:32, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)


*Then shouldn't this be noted as a reference?--[[User:Sultn|Sultn]] 09:02, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Rap Ref?==
Is Thnikkaman a reference to Jay-Z "Jigga Man?"  It goes along Bubs's whole rap persona. - ben mo

Umm no. Coach z is the one thats obsessed with rappers. {{User:Dagger/sig}} 17:09, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

== Hmmm ==

I was under the impression that "Here, shut up, kid" is what "some" is, since Strong Bad acts quite happy when the Thnikkaman says it.

==Blaxploitation==

Not that I have watched much Blaxploitation, but it seems like that's what Thnikkaman is parodying. {{unsigned|71.227.136.223|21:41, 23 September 2006}}

== "The Thnikkaman" or the "Thnikkaman"? ==

Should we move this back to "Thnikkaman"? Note that the [[Integral Article|article]] is not capitalized. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 14:20, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
:I think you're right. While I can't recall a character calling him just Thnikkaman, there is written evidence from TBC that refers to him as such - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&#39;s Teh C]] 15:20, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
::*[[monument|"Hey, Thnikkaman!"]]<br />
::*[[monument|"I'd like to see you stay on task when you're starin' down the barrel of a loaded Thnikkaman."]]<br />
::*[[cliffhangers|"And now, Thnikkaman, at long last, the world will discover your secret, sorcret identity!"]]
::I rest my case. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:07, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Well then, I guess that's the final nail in this coffin. . .Let us move. - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld&#39;s Teh C]] 17:50, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

== Secret Sorcret Identity ==

In the Homestar Runner universe, why hasn't anyone but Bubs figured out who the Thnikkaman really is? I mean, COME ON! It's so dang obvious.
:That's what makes it funny. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:I think the poster of this question would really enjoy the [[Forum:15|forum]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:05, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

== Coach Z's secret ==

According to the article, it's stated that Coach Z started to assume that HE was the Thinkkaman. I thought he was actually talking about his bad hand-eye coordination. I just want to make sure that that's the case before I edit the article.[[User:Rexy|Rexy]] 15:26, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

:In the email [[cliffhangers]], in one of the Easter Eggs, Coach Z is talking to Bubs. Here's the transcript of the Easter Egg:
:COACH Z: Nah, I bet if you take away them cool shades and rip that "TH" {pronounced as the "th" in "three"} off his chest, underneath, you'd find a thin green man with a big ol' "Z" hanging from his— 
:BUBS: {glares at Coach Z} Coach, are you accusing yourself of being the Thnikkaman?! 
:COACH Z: Yeah, I, uh— no! I, wuh, da, rumble-dumble sports team?! 

:On the other hand, his secret IS his bad hand-eye coordination. That's what he's referring to as his "secret sorcret". {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 05:42, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

== FAQ ==

Since the sketch on the cover of [[FAQ]] turned out to be drawn by a fan ([[Talk:FAQ#The cover|see here]]), should this appearance be removed from the Thnikkaman's filmography? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:12, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

:Hmm... methinks not. I mean, it still counts if it appears on the Homestar Runner website (And if TBC put it up, of course). Every Sbemail is sent by a fan. And those emails (basically) created Homsar, Trogdor, Marzipan, <!--April Fools still counts in serious discussions.-->you name it! So, fan content is pretty important. It'd be one thing if it was on "omgiluvhomestar.net" But it's not. It's on homestarrunner.com. So I think it's safe to assume it's canonical (If I'm using that word correctly, mind you). {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 21:08, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

==Ovaltine Man?==
I moved this from the article. Besides using weasel words, I think this is a major stretch. Discuss among yourselves.--[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 16:22, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

:It has been speculated that the Thnikkaman is a parody of various [[Wikipedia:Ovaltine|Ovaltine]] commercials, in which children are participating in some unrelated activity and are interrupted by the Ovaltine man. When they see the hot chocolate drinks the Ovaltine man is carrying, the kids are distracted away from their activity.

:Just how the heck is The Legendary Thnikkaman a parody of various Ovaltine commercials?! The Ovaltine article doesn't even mention the commercials! In fact, there's probably dozens of commercials which involve distractions! He's just does it 'cause he <!--sic--> cool. TTATOT. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:45, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

==Passing Resemblance?==

Are passing resemblances really noteworthy? --[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 16:26, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

:The Thnikkaman's portly physique and giant sunglasses cause him to bear a passing resemblance to the rapper [[Wikipedia:E-40|E-40]].

:Just how the heck does The Legendary Thnikkaman resemble E-40?! E-40 isn't even wearing sunglasses in that photo! In fact, The Thnikkaman has much more of a passing resemblance to any fat man wearing sunglasses! He just wears them 'cause it<!--[sic]--> cool. TTATOT. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:42, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

==Bubs?==
I was just wondering, no matter how clear it is that it's Bubs, can we still say it is him? If nobody in the H*R universe realises it's just Bubs with some cool shades and a paper saying TH on his chest, and there never was a moment in the H*R universe that it was revealed who the Thnikkaman was. I think that we act only on facts given by the the show and not speculation, as painfully clear as it is. Maybe we should change it to ''presumably''Bubs, although that probably will never happen. Just felt like saying this. No flaming please!--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 06:21, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
:I'm glad you mentioned this, because I was just thinking about this today and thought I might have to start a topic about it. It seems to me that although Thnikkaman does appear identical to a very thinly disguised Bubs, and it was more or less <i>implied</i> in [[cliffhangers]] was that he is Bubs, the fact that this hasn't been completely confirmed (and that none of the other characters seems to believe it) still allows for the possibility that he is not Bubs. Given the genesis of characters like Homsar, and some of the variations of Strong Bad who have gone on to be developed so much as characters that they can now coexist with regular Strong Bad (Senor Cardgage, Keyboard Strong Bad; I wouldn't count the other ones from [[alternate universe]], since they only coexist with Strong Bad as a result of his passing through a dimensional portal), and also given the occasional use of [[twin characters]], I don't really think we can rule out the possibility that Thnikkaman is not Bubs, as it is entirely possible given precedents that TBC have set that Thnikkaman could develop into an independent character who could coexist with Bubs. On the other hand, I admit that it is unlikely that such a divergence into two characters will ever occur, since the question of Thnikkaman's identity was (invented and) already approached and thwarted in [[cliffhangers]]; in fact, the way the topic was handled in that email seems indicative that this is a question that will go unanswered, which is also a category not unknown in the H*R universe. So my conclusion would be that we cannot know with certainty Thnikkaman is Bubs, but we probably never will. I would recommend changing this article to reflect this uncertainty however. [[User:LikeAsItself|LikeAsItself]] 19:59, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

== Move Back ==

I really think we should move this page back to [[The Thnikkaman|''The'' Thnikkaman]]. Even if there are some times that people refer to his name without a "The" in front of it, there are for ''The'' King of Town and ''The'' Poopsmith, also. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 23:08, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
:Add [[The Goblin]] to your list, since he was only refered to with "the" twice.  I want to move this page back too. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 03:22, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::I agree actually.  They make a valid point.[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 03:41, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Should we move it back? (I would also like to point out 1 of the two times The Goblin had a "the" was not even a toon) [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 20:45, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
::::My calculations total at least 10 times his name had "the" and only 6 times when it did not. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:40, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::We pretty much always write "the Thnikkaman" anyway, though we only link the name. Support moving back. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:14, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
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 I was under the impression that "Here, shut up, kid" is what "some" is, since Strong Bad acts quite happy when the Thnikkaman says it.
-:Two things: 1, It's "Yeah, shut up kid." Not "Here, shut up kid." 2, That is very possible, bus since it is speculation and '''not''' an actual fact, you cannot say that here. Good thinking though. I applaud you. [[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]] 17:22, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 ==Blaxploitation==
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 :I think the poster of this question would really enjoy the [[Forum:15|forum]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:05, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
-Didn't Homestar say he knew it was Bubs in [[Happy Dethemberween]]?  --[[User:Acam30|Acam30]] 05:09, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 == Coach Z's secret ==
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 I was just wondering, no matter how clear it is that it's Bubs, can we still say it is him? If nobody in the H*R universe realises it's just Bubs with some cool shades and a paper saying TH on his chest, and there never was a moment in the H*R universe that it was revealed who the Thnikkaman was. I think that we act only on facts given by the the show and not speculation, as painfully clear as it is. Maybe we should change it to ''presumably''Bubs, although that probably will never happen. Just felt like saying this. No flaming please!--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 06:21, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 :I'm glad you mentioned this, because I was just thinking about this today and thought I might have to start a topic about it. It seems to me that although Thnikkaman does appear identical to a very thinly disguised Bubs, and it was more or less <i>implied</i> in [[cliffhangers]] was that he is Bubs, the fact that this hasn't been completely confirmed (and that none of the other characters seems to believe it) still allows for the possibility that he is not Bubs. Given the genesis of characters like Homsar, and some of the variations of Strong Bad who have gone on to be developed so much as characters that they can now coexist with regular Strong Bad (Senor Cardgage, Keyboard Strong Bad; I wouldn't count the other ones from [[alternate universe]], since they only coexist with Strong Bad as a result of his passing through a dimensional portal), and also given the occasional use of [[twin characters]], I don't really think we can rule out the possibility that Thnikkaman is not Bubs, as it is entirely possible given precedents that TBC have set that Thnikkaman could develop into an independent character who could coexist with Bubs. On the other hand, I admit that it is unlikely that such a divergence into two characters will ever occur, since the question of Thnikkaman's identity was (invented and) already approached and thwarted in [[cliffhangers]]; in fact, the way the topic was handled in that email seems indicative that this is a question that will go unanswered, which is also a category not unknown in the H*R universe. So my conclusion would be that we cannot know with certainty Thnikkaman is Bubs, but we probably never will. I would recommend changing this article to reflect this uncertainty however. [[User:LikeAsItself|LikeAsItself]] 19:59, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
-::To the person who posted before me: You missed a similarity between Bubs on the Thnikkaman. The Thnikkaman has the exact some voice as Bubs, making the Thnikkaman being a different person even less likely. [[User:DrPepper42|DrPepper42]] 19:30, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
-:::Well, I was on a bit of a roll that day, but [[Happy Dethemberween]] pretty much blew open a lot of my arguments... at least I think it did; I'm not going to re-read that whole rant just to check. I'm pretty surprised you did. Anyway, I'm not such a strong proponent of this point anymore, but even so, I really don't think having the same voice as Bubs makes it that much less likely. The fact that Senor Cardgage became an independent character when he was originally supposed to be an agèd Strong Bad tells me that TBC really have no boundaries on this kind of thing. While it is strongly implied that they are one and the same, I think it would be completely in keeping with their style of humor to reveal that they aren't. It happened in a brief gag on the Simpsons once, and that is an acknowledged influence. That's all I'm sayin'. [[User:LikeAsItself|LikeAsItself]] 05:38, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 == Move Back ==
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 ::::My calculations total at least 10 times his name had "the" and only 6 times when it did not. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:40, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 :::::We pretty much always write "the Thnikkaman" anyway, though we only link the name. Support moving back. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:14, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
-:::::My apologies to the power that be, as this is admittedly off topic, but your last edit summary, BBG, sounds almost like Coach Z:P[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 22:25, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
-::::::That was intentional. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:02, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
-:::::I personally think page names should only begin with a "the" only if it's ''truly'' part of the subject's name. Note that in the toons, the "the" before the Thnikkaman's name is never capitalized. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:11, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
-::::::I disagree trogga, i think that if it's something that commonly has a "the" before it as does the goblin or the thnikkaman, it deserves to be called that, integral or not. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:15, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
-:::::::Even The Poopsmith is not always referred to with the The. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:53, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
-:::::::But The Poopsmith is called "The Poopsmith" on the site's character page, making it somewhat of an official name. The Thnikkaman, on the one hand, is called "''the'' Thnikkaman" on the site, implying that the "the" is not part of his name. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 02:24, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
-::::::::"The" might not be part of [[The Goblin]]'s name either, as he was only called "the Goblin" in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob|one toon]] and yet you don't ask us to remove the article in ''that'' title. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 01:32, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
-== Virus? ==
-I didn't see this mentioned anywhere here, but I accidentally stumbled upon "Virus" and when Bubs shows up, his face is a broken image with "th" as the alt text... could this be related to the Thnikkaman? --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy13]] 19:46, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
-:It's mentioned on [[virus]] (under Inside References), but I see no reason why it shouldn't also be mentioned here. Thanks for pointing it out. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:11, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
-== The Dethnikkaman? ==
-Should we put the fact that [[Happy Dethemberween|he is the true meaning of Decemberween]] on this page? [[User:ClingOnTheTheThnikkaman|ClingOnTheTheThnikkaman]] 19:07, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
-: I'm [[one step ahead]] of you. Though I decided to take it in a bit of a different direction. ('''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, not again!) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:08, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
-== Image ==
-It still looks funky on my screen. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 12:23, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
-== Funky Widescreen Layout ==
-[[Image:Thnikkaman Page screenshot.PNG|thumb|right|150px|funky overlap]]
-I have [[:Image:Thnikkaman Page screenshot.PNG|uploaded]] a screenshot of the {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=The_Thnikkaman&diff=534057&oldid=531881 problem}} I tried to fix earlier today. What seems to be happening is that the first two pictures are forcing the third to be laid out below these (which is why moving the code up produces the same results).  I don't exactly know what is causing the picture and header to overlap. I'm not sure how else to fix it (without having to use some sort of tables), and it would be hard to fix since widescreen displays are still not universally used. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 09:28, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
-:I have a similar issue when I look at the page (but a bit lower, since my screen's not ''quite'' as wide as yours)... I think it's the same problem that causes the [edit] section links to move around far from their homes when there's long stacks of floated images (in your screenshot, the [edit] link for Complete Filmography is slightly off... it won't move above the second right-floated picture, even if the heading itself was higher). I don't know if this is a Firefox bug or just something odd in the CSS spec, but either way, we should probably try to work around it. Basically, Firefox insists on floats being arranged vertically in the same order they're defined on the page... so since the first two things on the page are the two right-floating images, later floats (like the choir image, and the [edit] links) won't be any higher than the second image. Usually all it takes is some page rearranging to get it all looking nice. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:34, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
-::Ahhh! That explains a lot! Your solution looks beautiful, btw! I didn't know firefox expected long lines floats to be stacked vertically. Must be part of the XHTML standard (you wouldn't happen to know, would you?)  In fact, I checked with Opera (which happens to be the most standards compliant browser even though, ironically, looks the least good of the 3 major browsers in general) and it also seems to line up floats the same way firefox does, but it did not cover the header (it was placed just below the header in my both the {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=The_Thnikkaman&diff=prev&oldid=531881 original version}} and {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=The_Thnikkaman&diff=prev&oldid=531881 my attempted solution}}).  However, Internet explorer 6 was the most lenient of the three.  It indented the header in the original version, and moved the picture to the location I intended in my attempted solution. (In both cases the thnikkaman mustache image placed the edit button to its left.) ''Note: Screenshots available upon request. :)''  So it's interesting to see how all three browsers render things slightly different.  If these issues are standards-based I also would have expected the MediaWiki development body to take these problems into account (such as edit buttons stacking in a single row) when rendering a page.  However, in my opinion, the picture covering the title seems to me to be a firefox bug. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:13, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
-== 'Bout the Shades ==
-It says that:
-"In a monument easter egg, the Thnikkaman takes off his cool shades for the first and only time,"
-but didn't he take them off, then put them back on earlier than that, specifically when Strong Bad repeated "Thanks, Thnikkaman?"
-{{User:Kermit1234/sig}} 22:21, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
-== WOW staff says the name is racist ==
-<strike>http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7083818718&sid=1&pageNo=1</strike> ''[Post has expired from these forums]''
-The staff of WOW changed this guys name, even though he was obviously making a reference to The Thnikkaman. I'm worried as well, as my WOW characters name IS Thnikkaman. Just something interesting I wanna share. {{unsigned|Timic83|23:42, 11 June 2008 (UTC)}}
-: You know, I have always thought that his name is an unfortunate conicidence. The Chaps did not seem to intentionally do this, but in retrospect his name ''does'' sound racist.-[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 18:16, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
-::Talk pages are for the discussion of the article they accompany. Please take further conversation to the forums. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 18:33, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
-== The Mario Thnikaman! ==
-The Mustachioed Thnikaman looks a little like Mario. well, the mustache anyway.... [[User:Jibblejibblejibble|Jibblejibblejibble]] 22:07, 20 February 2010 (UTC)